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Given narrative arguments and the like I obviously wouldn’t say any version of Ulquiorra is stronger than any version of Aizen, but as far as the higher ranking Arrancar, is there anything that solidly puts them above Ulquiorra’s 2nd form aside from their rank? Because feats wise I don’t recall them doing anything as destructive as 2nd form Ulquiorra, and going by Ulquiorra’s statement none of the other Arrancar nor Aizen knew of his 2nd form, meaning it might not have been considered when they were ranked.

26:50 so, in other words, what you're saying is, ulquiorra surpassed levels beyond what a normal hollow is capable of, but that was what was possible within his capacity. So for instance, if zommari were to have transcendent reiatsu by achievinga second release, it wouldn't make him stronger than ulquiorra it'd probably just make him as strong as Nnoitora. That makes sense. Ginjo has levels of transcendence due to being a being that has broken down the barriers between shinigami and hollows but he's nowhere near as strong as zaraki who's still just a soul reaper. Same with Hikone. It's just like the Aizen v ichigo fights. Both were transcendent but Aizen wasn't even close to ichigo's level. However, I don't think ulquiorra or anyone who isn't a hybrid is transcendent (besides squad zero). Yamamoto, ulquiorra, shunsui are all very powerful beings but they aren't transcendent in any way. Shikai Aizen and Shikai Yamamoto are in fact on the same tier of power. The only reason Aizen believes he'd lose against yamamoto is because of the scale and destructive power of ryukinjakka. Both Aizen and yamamoto are masters in every aspect of shinigami combat. The only aspect Aizen was lacking in was a destructive zanpakuto like Yamamoto. In every other category, they were evenly matched. He k, Aizen didn't even get hurt by yamamoto's sacrificial hado in the 90s level. And at that level, they aren't even considered transcendent. Kubo already gave obvious hints to what makes a character transcendent or not. 1. A transcendent character's reiatsu can't be felt unless they purposefully lower it so it can be felt. Aizen describes transcendence like a 3Dimensinal being interacting with a 2Dimensional being. It's like operating on a different plane of existence. Ulquiorra doesn't fit that at all. 2. A transcendent character has the ability to simultaneously affect the 3 realms at the same time. Either by holding it together or having the reiatsu to directly affect or destabilise the 3 realms simultaneously. Some characters have the potential to be transcendent, others Don't.

Shunsui isn't transcendent 😂😂😂. Yamamoto simply stated that their Ukitake and Shunsui were transcendent in battle. In bleach, the only soul reapers who have transcendence are Aizen and squad zero. Ichigo isn't a soul reaper, he's a transcendent hybrid. Yamamoto isn't transcendent. Shunsui isn't. No hollow ever is transcendent. Yamamoto is NOT transcendent. By his logic, Gerard, Mimihagi and Pernida aren't transcendent because no one ever comments on their spiritual pressure 😂😂😂😂😂😂. By his logic, Toshiro is transcendent because his reiatsu is also cold. Based on his logic, Starrk should be transcendent as well because Starrk and Toshiro are the only characters shown in bleach to passively kill people just by being in their presence. Starrk creating a mountain of dead hollows and Toshiro's spiritual pressure killing the grandma he lived with.

I once had an argument with a person about Bleach in yt comments. He was going on about how Soul Society is the best arc because…Whatever his reasons were, I corrected him like “it’s your opinion to say SS is the best arc but you can’t say [this] when other arcs added so much more than just the foundation of Bleach…” I remember there was a bit of back and forth and he was like “yeah you’re right but [something].” It was funny because I actually won and basically changed someone’s opinion lol. Like if you always strive to learn more and hear all sides the conversation is won. This Cifer guy lost when he didn’t even hear or listen at all to you.

Something I will say, why can’t people enjoy Bleach as it is. If you look at other Big 3, I think Bleach got the biggest amount of “fanatics” and can’t be satisfied. People still do this day are like “I can’t with Bleach anymore.” Me, I just like to say, “here’s my theory…(theory)…correct me if I’m wrong.” I especially do this with TYBW and LN related stuff. When I am wrong I actually do take back or correct myself. Also I have my own favorite characters, like my numero uno Gin Ichimaru but I don’t say he can do the impossible…Although I’m curious if Gin can kill like Lille Barro using “Kamishini no Yari.” I will say there are very few “God”-named or related abilities, and when they do it’s meaningful to the story, reference to both Ukitake and Nanao.

When it come to reitsu yammy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stark >>>>>>>>>>>>> barragan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hallibel and ulquiorra Ability wise barragan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hallibel one cascada and the battlefield become her weapon >>>>>>>>>>> stark >>>>> ulquiorra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yammy

if aizen aint know abt gins poison he aint know abt segunda etapa. its that simple.

The thing is, ulquiorra doesn't have transcendent spiritual pressure. It's never stated or shown to be the case. Uryuu's remarks only imply that his spiritual pressure is intense and massive. Literally every powerful character in bleach has a distinct effect which their spiritual pressure gives off. Zaraki's spiritual pressure made ichigo freeze believing he'd been killed, yamamoto's feels like intense heat and pressure, Aizen's feels like intense pressure, Shunsui's feels depressing, etc. That's literally how it works. "His spiritual pressure solidified into dark rain". Lol, every arrancar had their spiritual pressure transformed when they released their zanpakuto. Even Zommari had tar like goop coming out his zanpakuto. Hallibel's resurrection alone caused a tsunami. Harribel's resurrection had the most destructive effect shown from just releasing the zanpakuto when it comes to the espada but people like to act like they didn't see that happen. 😂. Ulquiorra's not the strongest espada. His second resurrection doesn't even get him to Barragan's level. People don't know this, but the gap in power between Harribel and Barragan is extremely massive. Harribel is stronger than 1st release ulquiorra. Meaning base Barragan is way way stronger than 1st release ulquiorra. Second release ulquiorra would be above base Barragan and that's it.

Ulq in second form is stronger

when did yamamoto become transcendant ? arent transcendant beings above using zanpaktou ? or become one with it or whatever

Well I'm not surprised, Ulquiorra is basically the Itachi of Bleach. To be honest I already knew where the conversation was going when the criteria of "transcendence" was mentioned.

Trancendent rieatsu isn't having different feeling rieatsu. Kisuke and many others prove that rieatsu can be felt differently based on the user's personality or qualities. Like ichigo can immediately pick out that the rieatsu he felt was shunsuis rieatsu despite the clear sudden spike in his rieatsu lvls. Kisuke explains that yoruichis change in rieatsu NATURE in her cat form is due to her mood. A consistent fact of transcendent rieatsu will always be that it's untraceable to those its trancendent above because the concept of it is that they're risen above a point where those below them can't even interfere with them. The fact that rukia sensed vl ichigo is enough proof that ulquiorra is not trancendent as vl ichigo was kicking ulquiorras ass. Having trancendent rieatsu absolutely makes one stronger, because the fact is that they've completely risen above another. The only problem is that ulquiorra isn't trancendent.

Would be interesting to know how Grimmjow would fare against these guys post Hueco Mundo Aizen arc... or even Nel herself

Also would a Menos Grande Gillian alone already be a threat to say verses like Naruto or Jujutsu Kaisen or One Piece? That is the upper top tier players of these verses?

If Starrk was not lazy and lackadaisical... and he was serious how much more potential would he have had? Would he have managed well against the Sternritters or where would a Released and Serious Starrk be halted at?

This how they win: 1. Baraggan transforms 2. Hacchi, the fat vizard, invisbly teleports all death sparks inside the vasto lorde 3. Vasto lorde realize they are guaranteed to die in 5 seconds. So they speedblitz the vizards for 1 last kamikaze attack 4. Vizards have no other choice than to let their hollows take control 5. Vasto lorde died. Vizards changed their names into normal hollows Seirete gets a call that unexpectedly their suddenly appeared to be hollows in Karakuratown.. you know the rest

So. If people just touch chair-Aizen, they are not anymore under genjutsu?

yo bro your supporter from year ago, i dont think u remember me since you deleted the videos, but its nice seeing you have been growing in views and everything keep doing it bro💪

KS is a low tier genjutsu and also yes its a mental attack. Also it makes sense why its more impressive if kakashi is hit by kyoka suigetsu than yhwach because of his mental resistance heres the logic, naruto would absolutely destroy sakura in a fight no diff however she has better mind resistance than him so it would be more impressive if she was hit by kyoka suigetsu than naruto. if you want an example look at naruto the last movie, even though naruto was the strongest person on earth sakura broke out of toneris genjutsu before anybody else.

god theres so much you can debunk from this video for both bleach and naruto. im sorry this aint the truth its just headcannon.

I agree in naruto the durability of all non top tiers will essentially be low cause they don't have the ability to use biju cloaks. But I do think it is possible to enhance your defence with chakra like a shield since I believe it was showed somewhere they enhanced their kunai with chakra to allow it to tank a hit and in naruto you're able to enhance your whole body with chakra I just think it would either cost to much chakra or disperce it so much that it wouldn't be viable. But correct me if im wrong on that dosent change the fact that only top tiers can really increase their durability kinda just my take on it or head canon or assumption.

Daemon scales higher than bleach verse. Pointless argument

so basically Daemon gets wiped anyone that can tank their own attacks, like everyone in Bleach

is the Bleach Realms vid coming out?

What are these verses battles?

Your intended target is the ground that he is standing on and just use a big attack. Ability is negged

Okay, so let me add to this a bit. (I'm only considering powers and abilities here) Intent is a very lose term because there are a lot, and I mean a LOT of abilities that can be used without the "intent to kill" that will kill. For example; Gojo's Domain Expansion has only one "intent" behind it, and that is "to share or relay information to the world". It is indiscrimnate and cannot be designated to one target only. Such an ability will 100% work on Daemon without question, and I'll explain further later on. Code's "neutral" attack that was still reflected makes sense under the context of it being an "action" regardless of whether it was dangerous to Daemon or not. The action itself was reflected, not the outcome so that makes sense. But if let's say Todo (from JJK) were to clap his hands intending to "move" Daemon from one point in space to another, the "action" itself would be space-time movement or teleportation. It would be the world itself warping Daemon away, that cannot be reflected. If Daemon were to fall into the ocean and let's say he can't swim or fly or anything of the sort, he would drown (action). If Daemon were to fall into an active volcano without any way of resisting the heat, he would burn (action). If Daemon was caught in the middle of a Tornado, he would be ripped (action) to shreds. If Daemon were dropped into space, he would die from a lack of oxygen among other things... (action: suffocate) If Daemon landed on the moon, he wouldn't be able to walk like normal due to lower gravity. (action: float) If Daemon drank acid, his internal organs would be destroyed. (action: poison (kinda) ) If Daemon entered a space without time, he'd be frozen(action) in time. And so on. The reason why I took my time listing all these was to point out that "natural" phenomena cannot be "reflected" by Daemon. These are "actions" that get "triggered" by "external forces" without any intent behind them. So If Aizen walks by Daemon, Daemon gets erased. Why? Because, Aizen's very existence necessitates that "action", no different from a Tornado ripping him apart in the example I gave. Same thing with Monster Garou, him just existing causes radiation poisoning. Daemon would fall to his knees choking on his own saliver if Yamamoto flexed his reiatsu in his vicinity. If Dio tells time to stop, Daemon is freezing in place no questions asked. If Fujitora drops a meteor "onto the village" and Daemon is in said village, he's getting crushed. Daemon runs into the Kototsu, he's getting yeeted into another time period or timeline on principle. If a blind man swings his cane in Daemon's general direction without knowing that anybody is in his way, Daemon would get smacked by the cane. (arguably) Indirect actions that could cause Daemon harm will work, I had to make that very clear. So while knowing how Reflect works helps, you just have to have an ability that is indiscrimnate. Rukia for example, she lowers her own body to Absolute Zero and just like Aizen, if you so much as get too close to her body, you will be frozen without any intent of her own as was shown when Byakuya's hand got frozen. If Daemon was in the village with Shikamaru's father when the ten tails fired a random bijou bomb their way, he'd have died. If Saitama gets annoyed by Daemon's Reflect and blows up the planet, Daemon dies. I think people really overlook the fact that, essentially, AOE attacks that destroy everything indiscrimately for the most part do not have one intended target in mind, just a "place" or "area". This also means that robots, puppets (like zombies, undead, golems etc.) and "mindless" beasts can all kill Daemon if they're stronger than him. *edit: their "actions" are irrelevant because as we've seen, whenever Daemon "reflects" actions, the weapons themselves aren't destroyed. **7:40** you can see that the weapon used wasn't affected, only the person wielding the weapon suffered any damage. This is important because Robots aren't people, they are weapons. Yes, Nagato controls the paths of Pain, but the puppets themselves have no intent and we cannot assume that Nagato would receive the damage since we can't ascertain Reflect's range (that would be headcannon).* The second weakness comes back to the Gojo example I gave. If the ability is a bit abstract or complex with unique conditions that technically do not require killing intent, the ability will work on Daemon. Kyoka Suigetsu - Kanzen Saimin requires the "intent" of the target and not Aizen, ironically. It is Daemon whose "action" of sight that allows Kanzen Saimin to work. Aizen only has to draw his blade and nothing else. Shinji's Bankai (Shikai too) does not attack you, it simply releases a unique scent that again, Daemon has to smell for it to activate. There is no intent whatsoever here, no different from Daemon breathing Oxygen produced by trees or smelling nice flowers or food aroma. Tsukishima's stab functions like Gojo's Infinite Void, the intent is not to kill but share information. However, the action here would be physically done by Tsukishima much like Code, therefore he would be pushed back and made to stab himself (since it's a neutral action, he wouldn't die) Berenice on the other hand, simply needs to ask Daemon a question to bypass Reflect, similar to Unjustice(Juiz d'Arc) actually (from Undead Unluck). If Daemon takes the bait and ends up with Gizelle's blood on him, he's done. If daemon looks at the Prison Realm for ten minutes (somehow), he will get trapped in it no question. Same with Bruley's Mirror World, if he looks at mirror that she's holding, he instantly gets BFR'd. Funny thing I just realized, World Cutting Slash would actually kill Daemon. Since the intent is to cut space, and the byproduct of that would be Daemon being cleaved in half. Something like Kurohitsugi and Space Displacement Kido do not require any killer intent really. The reflect is broken, but it has a few flaws that can be exploited, it just so happens that the Boruto world lacks such complex abilities.

Some wrong take, daemon reflects ALL attack not just physical and even the though. That has been stated many times by eida and amado, so trying to limit it to physical is a huge cap when he can already reflect "chakra" attack like kawaki's Daemon reflect intent of the attack and action of the attack with the intent being automatic and passive, also in the manga and anime, he wasn't touching bug at the exact moment code launched his claws and it got reflected even without daemon knowing. His ability can be extended to others that he touched which as also been stated by amado and backed up when code summoned him at the last moment against kawaki. Then kawaki tanking his own attack is also obvious since he scales to his attack, but note he had intetion to kill code but the action was reflected which knocked him unconscious. Lastly saying you can bypass his attack with pure speed is a huge cap, not only does code know the first condition of his ability which is not "having any malicious intent towards him" so attack him without the intent to kill him but his actions were still reflected regardless so being able to know the first condition will enable code to not die instantly. That's why the condition of his ability was given to his new allies(naruto, shikamaru, and the rest) to avoid them accidentally killing themselves from his ability. So far, there is not a solid weakness shown against his ability other than statements from bug that still contradicts itself with the feat from their fight agaisnt code and daemon. Maybe that might be revealed later in the manga as the target of the shinju bug is eida who seems to "know" the cyborg siblings on a more personal level bwing their caretaker via having the identity and memories of bug himself so we might getva clue on daemon's weakness

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Question you said Gojo would likely be reduced to ashes via Yamamoto's Bankai due to the insane temperature. What about freezing to death with Rukia's Bankai as it seems she sends forth a wave of Absolute Zero. Could some argument be made that the cold or the heat wouldn't bypass infinity? If so then wouldn't he just freeze to death anyways cos the heat of the sun wouldn't bypass? Also another question, any light based attack should pass through right? I mean we can see and hear Gojo and he can see and hear everyone so therefore Light and Sound bypass infinity? How would infinity know which light to deny and which to allow? Or do we just assume that somehow it just knows what is an attack or not with or without Gojo's conscious observation. Not trying to start any arguments just genuinely curious about the nuances of Gojo's ability.

I don't believe that Sakura punching Kaguya raises or lowers either one's lvl at all. I simply just believe that Sakura just became as strong as she needed to be in that moment to be able to hurt Kaguya. Likely a mental amp which is something that has been present since OG Naruto, introduced by Haku during the land of waves arc.

Omnipotence is fodder ability ans very Overrated like infinity

i'm so glad i came to your channel and giving the respect bleach deserves, not too many naruto fans do that here on youtube.

Get him past a fishbone then we can talk

Videos like this make me laugh at just hiw funny bleach stans make themselves look when it comes to scaling. Before the introduction of shinjustu, there are literally ninjustu that affect the soul itself. There is even the Rinnegan which originates from the otsutsuki themselves and from the pain arc, we already see soul based abilities from just the Rinnegan, that's not bringing other hax like the TSO which also affect the souls. Heck there is this dude dan who was tsunade boyfriend whose ability literally allows him to possess body worh his souls and this dude could be put in a barrier that doesn't allow his soul to even go through, not taking into account that naruto literally had a tug of war with his own soul or that chakra is established even in the naruto verse to use the user spiritual energy and physical energy. Where as in bleach if you have even a small amount of spiritual energy, you can see hollows and even interact with them which is race of how quincies are made where they can manipulate spiritual energy. Its almost 2025 and bleach stans are still trying to use "can they see shinigami?" card😂

Well Lille Barro can adjust his x-axis to unavoidable... Said himself...

42:13 you are automatically applying Bleach’s rules for cross verse when you said you don’t do equalization. Do you not see the inconsistency in your position? You are adding on rules to abilities and actively going against the statements of the series.

Im surprised i aint show up in this thread🤣🤣🤣🤣

41:18 you are confusing potency with conditions.

37:36 if someone just says “yes, it does work on X character as long as they’re not Ōtsutsuki” where do you go from there because that statement is consistent with what the series has stated and shown. Also saying you haven’t made a claim when everyone can see the implications just looks overly arrogant and weasel like. Less like you don’t have a claim and more like you wouldn’t stand by a claim.

20:11 Nel crashing into Ichigo and hurting him while she’s in her weakness form, Nami punching Luffy while he is supposed resistant to blunt damage, and Goku getting scratched by bullets. Like if you are caught up on Boruto whether it be the anime or manga the potential strength of Himawari was being established.

19:41 one piece character wouldn’t have haki active in their sleep so there durability change when sleep, Krillin literally bruised a napping Super Sayian with a rock, it’s a plot point in super how much Goku’s stats are affected just by losing focus, Kenpachi mentioned his passive Reiatsu was greater than Ichigo during the soul society arc, and as Bleach characters tire their spiritual energy drops. This kind of statement makes no sense if you have read or watched these series.

17:05 so you are just conflating hax scaling with AP scaling.

8:47 what they should be saying is in Bleach soul reapers and hollows have been hurt by crashing into building, lamppost, and other non spiritual objects. So pulling “but they’re spiritual” defense doesn’t work by Bleach’s own rules.

6:52 that’s not a no limit fallacy. The limit was given. The ability doesn’t work on Ōtsutsuki. That’s the limiting factor.

4:24 you mean in Naruto character’s will have specific defenses instead of lazily using their AP scaling for their hax scaling. Like being resistant to genjutsu is something you can innately have ,like Sakura and sharingan users, and you can train to increase/gain this resistance. Momoshiki already confirmed Eida’s ability ,Omnipotence, permanently altered all of reality. Eida’s Charm was created by Omnipotence so it’s more a rule of reality than anything. Any who looks at Eida will fall in love.

My boy he can't get pass 100 healing

Bro has nothing better to do with his life (-.-)Zzz・・・・

2:34 "What feats/scaling does Eida have ?" this doesn't matter as her ability is HAX, hax has nothing to do with scaling and characters don't even scale to their hax "why would it work on spiritual beings ?" if we use verse equalization, it would work, cuz souls in naruto are made out of chakra. the statement is pretty clear, "works on everyone BUT otsutsukis", its not a no limit fallacy to say that it works on spiritual beings too, because thats literally what the statement says when it says "everyone" and yes we've actually seen eida affect the soul, because by affecting chakra she's also affecting the soul because chakra comes from the soul and souls in naruto are made out of chakra. "why would it work on anyone that outscales her ?" because thats the point of hax, and its literally shown to work on people who outscale her lmao 7:56 "no hax has nearly anything to do with power in naruto/boruto" theres actually no proof of that, wanna know why ? because most people in naruto don't even have hax, there is almost NO hax used in the whole thing the only hax i can think of rn thats talked about is eida's power, shinjutsu and yin yang release however, we never see yin yang release and shinjutsu in action, we only got some vague statements about it so how tf can you claim that hax has to do with power in naruto when literally no one in naruto has hax ? i think you confuse abilities and hax lil bro if eida's power is stated to work on everyone BUT otsutsukis, thats it, thats the rule. just because its not shown to work on spirits doesn't mean it doesn't work on them, the statement is clear, "EVERYONE" includes spirits.