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Parkwood Baptist Church
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The purpose of Parkwood Baptist Church is to glorify God by laboring together for the growth of all believers while going with the gospel to all people(s).
Parkwood is a community of growing believers in and disciples of Jesus Christ who seek to make disciples. Parkwood was planted in 1963 by Dr. M. O. Owens Jr. Parkwood takes seriously its commitment to the Word of God in practice and teaching.
Whether you are interested in learning more about faith in Jesus or seeking a place for you or your family to grow spiritually and connect with other believers, we invite you to take a deeper look at Parkwood.
Parkwood is a community of growing believers in and disciples of Jesus Christ who seek to make disciples. Parkwood was planted in 1963 by Dr. M. O. Owens Jr. Parkwood takes seriously its commitment to the Word of God in practice and teaching.
Whether you are interested in learning more about faith in Jesus or seeking a place for you or your family to grow spiritually and connect with other believers, we invite you to take a deeper look at Parkwood.
How Do I Remain Faithful Under Persecution?
In this powerful episode, Pastor Jeff Long delves into the profound messages found in Revelation 2:8-11, focusing on the Church of Smyrna. This passage highlights themes of suffering, persecution, and the call to remain faithful, even to the point of death. Pastor Long emphasizes that these themes are not just a historical recount but a present-day reality for many Christians around the world. He challenges contemporary American Christians to reflect on their own faith and the level of persecution they may or may not face.
Pastor Long discusses the dangerous misconception in American Christianity that faith is solely about prosperity and blessings. Instead, he reinforces the idea found in the Beatitudes, that there is a blessing in being persecuted for righteousness' sake. He cites various scriptures, including Matthew 5:10-12 and 2 Timothy 3, to back his points, urging listeners to examine their faithfulness and willingness to endure persecution. By referencing real-world examples from places like North Korea and Somalia, Pastor Long bridges the gap between biblical times and current events, making the issue of persecution incredibly relevant today.
### Key Takeaways:
* **Persecution is Inevitable for True Christians**: Scriptures indicate that anyone desiring to live a godly life will face persecution.
* **Misconceptions of Prosperity Gospel**: Contrary to popular belief, Christianity does not promise a life free of suffering but rather acknowledges persecution as a blessing.
* **Global Persecution**: Highlighting statistics and examples from countries like North Korea, Somalia, and Nigeria, Pastor Long exposes the harsh realities faced by Christians worldwide.
* **Self-Reflection on Faith**: A call for American Christians to introspect if they are truly living out their faith and facing any form of persecution.
* **Praying for Persecuted Christians**: Encouraging listeners to pray for those who face severe persecution and to remain faithful in their own walks with Christ.
### Notable Quotes:
1. "I know your tribulation and your poverty, but you are rich."
2. "Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life."
3. "If we are not being persecuted on some level, then why is that?"
4. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
5. "Suffering for Christ is a reality… be faithful to Him."
### Resources:
* [Open Doors](www.opendoorsusa.org/) - Organization providing information on Christian persecution worldwide.
* Bible Passages Referenced: Revelation 2:8-11, Matthew 5:10-12, 2 Timothy 3.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect deeply on their faith, consider the plight of persecuted Christians globally, and strive to remain steadfast in their beliefs. Stay tuned for more enlightening content that will inspire and challenge your spiritual journey.
Pastor Long discusses the dangerous misconception in American Christianity that faith is solely about prosperity and blessings. Instead, he reinforces the idea found in the Beatitudes, that there is a blessing in being persecuted for righteousness' sake. He cites various scriptures, including Matthew 5:10-12 and 2 Timothy 3, to back his points, urging listeners to examine their faithfulness and willingness to endure persecution. By referencing real-world examples from places like North Korea and Somalia, Pastor Long bridges the gap between biblical times and current events, making the issue of persecution incredibly relevant today.
### Key Takeaways:
* **Persecution is Inevitable for True Christians**: Scriptures indicate that anyone desiring to live a godly life will face persecution.
* **Misconceptions of Prosperity Gospel**: Contrary to popular belief, Christianity does not promise a life free of suffering but rather acknowledges persecution as a blessing.
* **Global Persecution**: Highlighting statistics and examples from countries like North Korea, Somalia, and Nigeria, Pastor Long exposes the harsh realities faced by Christians worldwide.
* **Self-Reflection on Faith**: A call for American Christians to introspect if they are truly living out their faith and facing any form of persecution.
* **Praying for Persecuted Christians**: Encouraging listeners to pray for those who face severe persecution and to remain faithful in their own walks with Christ.
### Notable Quotes:
1. "I know your tribulation and your poverty, but you are rich."
2. "Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life."
3. "If we are not being persecuted on some level, then why is that?"
4. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
5. "Suffering for Christ is a reality… be faithful to Him."
### Resources:
* [Open Doors](www.opendoorsusa.org/) - Organization providing information on Christian persecution worldwide.
* Bible Passages Referenced: Revelation 2:8-11, Matthew 5:10-12, 2 Timothy 3.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect deeply on their faith, consider the plight of persecuted Christians globally, and strive to remain steadfast in their beliefs. Stay tuned for more enlightening content that will inspire and challenge your spiritual journey.
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13 // Why is there So Much Division in the Church?
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In this compelling episode of "Days and Apologize," Pastor Scott Hand delves into the contentious issue of division within the Christian Church. Addressing a common concern, he explores why the plethora of denominations and differing beliefs might deter individuals from embracing Christianity. Pastor Scott navigates through the history and origins of the three major branches of Christianity-Eas...
Patient Endurance - Revelation 2:1-7
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We are so excited to begin a new sermon series from the book of Revelation. This book unveils the full deity and sovereignty of our Lord God almighty in vivid detail. A right understanding of this apocalypse, prophecy and pastoral letter had the power in the first century to encourage and undergird the young church to persevere through intense persecution while simultaneously enlivening complac...
How Do I Interpret the Seven Letters?
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In this enlightening episode, Pastor Jeff Long delves into the intricacies of interpreting the letters to the seven churches in the Book of Revelation. He builds a case for understanding these letters within their historical and symbolic contexts, emphasizing their relevance to modern-day believers. Listeners will gain insights into how these letters, while addressed to specific first-century c...
Son of Man - Revelation 1:9-20
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We are so excited to begin a new sermon series from the book of Revelation. This book unveils the full deity and sovereignty of our Lord God almighty in vivid detail. A right understanding of this apocalypse, prophecy and pastoral letter had the power in the first century to encourage and undergird the young church to persevere through intense persecution while simultaneously enlivening complac...
12 // How Can a Good God Allow Evil - Part 3
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In this thought-provoking episode of "Dazed and Apologized," Pastor Scott Hand delves into the daunting question, "Why would God allow natural disasters?" This episode, part three of the mini-series on “God and Evil,” explores the intersections of faith, scripture, and the realities of the natural world. Pastor Hand meticulously breaks down the theological and scriptural stands on natural disas...
How Do I Interpret Revelation?
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Episode Summary: Join us in this enlightening episode as Pastor Jeff Long delves into the intricate nuances of interpreting the Book of Revelation. In a world where preconceived notions often cloud our understanding of the Bible, Pastor Long underscores the importance of recognizing our biases and approaching scripture with a discerning eye. This conversation promises to equip listeners with th...
Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:4-8
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We are so excited to begin a new sermon series from the book of Revelation. This book unveils the full deity and sovereignty of our Lord God almighty in vivid detail. A right understanding of this apocalypse, prophecy and pastoral letter had the power in the first century to encourage and undergird the young church to persevere through intense persecution while simultaneously enlivening complac...
How Do I Read Revelation?
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Episode Summary: In this illuminating episode, Jeff Long dives into the intricacies of interpreting the Book of Revelation. Known for its complex and often misunderstood content, Revelation requires a specific approach to fully grasp its meaning. Jeff uses insights from Mortimer Adler's book "How to Read a Book" to emphasize the importance of recognizing different genres within the Bible and pa...
11 // How Can a Good God Allow Evil? - Part 2
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11 // How Can a Good God Allow Evil? - Part 2
Can I Understand Revelation // Revelation 1:1-3
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Can I Understand Revelation // Revelation 1:1-3
10 // How Can A Good God Allow Evil? - Part 1
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10 // How Can A Good God Allow Evil? - Part 1
09 // How Can You Believe in the Resurrection?
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09 // How Can You Believe in the Resurrection?
08 // Hasn't Christianity Committed a Lot of Evils in the World?
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08 // Hasn't Christianity Committed a Lot of Evils in the World?
For the Sake of the Gospel - Colossians 4:5-6
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For the Sake of the Gospel - Colossians 4:5-6
05 // Does Science Disprove the Bible?
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05 // Does Science Disprove the Bible?
03 // Isn't the Bible Full of Contradictions // Part 2
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03 // Isn't the Bible Full of Contradictions // Part 2
Working Relationships - Colossians 3:22-4:1
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Working Relationships - Colossians 3:22-4:1
02 // Isn't the Bible Full of Contradictions? // Part 1
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02 // Isn't the Bible Full of Contradictions? // Part 1
We ARE humans dead to God. The ONLY way God will accept for entrance into heaven is the FINISHED work Jesus accomplished for salvation ---Paul's gospel given to him by Jesus himself --- a MYSTERY NOT known before the world began. Romans 16:25
Paul's gospel given to him by Jesus himself, a MYSTERY NOT known before the world began. Romans 16:25
As a Saxophonist, what a beautiful sound of worship! And I'm not sure what has been wrong with the sound mixing but everyone was balanced today! Most of all, Praise God for the blessings He provides through Parkwood! Praise, worship and the proclamation of His Word!! ❤
Praise the LORD for the saxophone and this saxophonist!!!!!
I found your discussion quite interesting, and it wasn't nearly as objectionable as most videos I watch like this, so kudos for that. But never has an atheist uttered the words "I just want to sin." That is a Straw Man of the highest degree. A someone who left Christianity after 60 years, I can honestly say that. And I'm not just the Sunday go to meeting Christian; I was a child evengelist at 9, and didn't stop evangelizing until my early twenties. I met several agnostics and atheist during my ministry and not once did an atheist say those words. But Christians, myself included back in the day, often presented that Straw Man characterization. Like I said, you did a much better job in your discussion than most, so I appreciate that. Take care.
your argument against the futurist theory is that there's no pre trib rapture, got it. could you present any argument for, you know, not a pre trib rapture or is that just irrelevant
The joy of the Lord is my strength is in my Bible- Nehemiah 8:10. I am surprised to hear this preacher say it is not in the Bible.
Thank you for sharing the message. God Bless You.
Great video Pastor Hand.
I am looking forward to hearing you preach on Revelation.
Thank you for sharing the message. God bless 🙏.
youtube.com/@pastorkhalidjavedbiblemessestv?si=nZfeMo_8qR6WwfK8 ❤❤❤ good work 👍❤️🙏 God bless you 🌺 Amen 🙏👍🙏🌷
Great Job Pastor Andrew!
Deano Parker can sure sing!!! True gift from God!!
A Personal Savior wrongly convicted, sentenced to death, 'hung-up', dead for three days, arose & ascended to Heaven where its followers will live forever. Yeah, that story was going around the Mediterranean hundreds of years before the Christians borrowed it. *Google the Mesopotamina God, Inanna*
Is there a number we can call to pay tithes and offerings? 😊❤
FATHER GOD IS AWESOME Preach Pastor Jeff Long. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️😊
Thank FATHER GOD for HIS WORD IN THE NAME OF YESHUA IN JESUS NAME AMEN AND AMEN ❤😊
Thank you pastor.
It’s nice to see a Protestant have the proper view of the crusades.
You need a deeper understanding of Jihad. What you are quoting is similar to the notion of Christians quoting Christ to justify misdeeds. Jihad is about the struggle within, the battle with one’s own shortcomings and sinning nature.
The encyclopedia of wars Out of the 1763 wars recorded in history only 7% or 123 were of a religious nature if you take 66 wars from that which were started by Islam that leaves 57 other wars or 3% of whom Catholics were the perpetrators who are Catholics not Christians. For Christian’s to start a war goes totally against the teachings of Christ. If you look just at the 20th century millions of people have been killed by atheistic regimes such as Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler, oseph Stalin, Vladmir Lenin and others so atheism, secular and politics have resulted in more wars then religion
I literally watch these as soon as they come out each week 🔥
I think you should do some more research on these definitions. You can be an gnostic-atheist, agnostic atheist, agnostic theist, gnostic theist, all of which could also be skeptics. You had the definition of Atheist right to begin with and then you used a different definition right after. Atheism is the lack of a belief in a God. In other words, there has been nothing to convince me of a god. Believing that there IS NOT A GOD is completely different than a lack of belief in a god. Plz do your research
The phrase gish-gallop comes to mind, Where do you even start with that amount of wrong. The guy is so earnest, and so clearly absolutely believes every word he's saying. Further, he may well be a perfectly resonable person in other areas of his life, we all have our blind spots after all. But in this particular area he has descended into sophistry. He uses similar rhetoric strategies to those I used before developing the ability to say "I don't know", when I don't know something. The liberation from the desire to be right all the time has altered my whole thought process, I'm still a wordy sort, but I'm hungry for the world around me rather than seeing it as a threat with me the victim of oppression. So many times during this sermon, I've thought "WTF?", but there's no respite to explore thoughts before racing on to the next almost completely irrelevant soundbite. As I said before, after watching the How to Patronise Skeptics video, (which I've expanded on here), these sermons are pure brainwashing material, designed to entrench his followers in his brand of theism; to build his own flock from which to fill his belly, and feed his ego. I don't imagine he's aware, I Imagine that he thinks what he's doing is god's work, but I just reel from the arrogance of deciding that god has annointed you his mouthpeice, so you are 'a good person', and your thoughts are divine in nature. Again, tautological thinking rears it's head in top form, it would take a week to dismantle that barrage of nonsense. I'm a little ray of sunshine ain't I?
Yes...yes it is. Incredibly bad.
"The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weaknesses". "The Bible a collection of venerable but still rather primitive legends. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change anything about this" - Albert Einstein.
The explanation of "atheist" is a bit off. * "a": negate * "theist": belief in god * "atheist: "no belief in god" * "anti-theist": "belief in no god" Pastor Hand had a slight of words, going from "Doesn't believe in god" to "They believe there is not a god" [3:00] Moving the negation changes the idea. If the intent is to have useful conversations, and an attempt is made to start by identifying what the other person might believe, it helps to understand the categories correctly.
Just read all of the comments. Not a single Christian. They must be in LGBTQ conversations telling everybody that they're going to hell!
I see lots of Christians responses
If I wanted to sin, I’d become a Christian. You guys are such good examples.
Science does not disprove the Bible!!! Unless you try to say some stupid shit like the Bible is true. Then yes, science disproves that claim.
I really love this bit "No matter what people tell you, no matter what you read...." that's great. What a wonderful idea that is! Yeah, no matter what - this thing (X) is going to be what you say it is, haahhahaha ahhh good times. Yeah, sure. What a way to just negate ever learning you are wrong! Haahahaha. No.
They think we didn't listen to the whole thing or understand it; even though I quoted and time stamped what I was referencing.
Let me quote you here. "I'm not a scientist, but God and science are not in conflict." I'm not so sure your underqualification's enable you to properly evaluate such things. You clearly have a laymen's view of science, at best. I suppose, it also depends on how you view the bible. Do you think the earth is six thousand years old and rest upon pillars with a firmament? Do you think that the earth and light, existed before the sun, as stated in genesis? I think a better way to phrase this would have been, a God doesn't necessarily conflict with science. That would of been accurate. But you then went onto say "No matter what people tell you, or what you read, they're actually not in conflict." As we determined above, that depends on how you interpret it, doesn't it? I also think that makes it sound like you're not even open to the idea that you could be mistaken. You're teaching that people shouldn't even bother examining these things openly or honestly. This comes across as you being and teaching people to be extremely closed off to new and or outside information. 4:20 Where did God get the dirt from? I get that it's a joke. But I think the point is moot; when you think God created everything ex nihilo, aka from nothing. "Science does not conflict with a God" Again, it depends on your view of God and interpretation of reality. You certainly can believe things from the bible that clearly and demonstrably conflict with science. I'll give an example of something that happened to me yesterday at a bible study. The person leading the bible study stated that corporal punishment for children in school and at home was a good thing. I asked if they denied decades of research that demonstrate otherwise. Their answer was, yes, because the bible says so. Now, if you don't think that that's a direct admission that these Christians didn't care that the bible directly conflicts with science, I don't know what is. I'm sure, I could come up with dozens of more examples, I'm pretty sure you even hold beliefs that are from the bible, that conflict directly with what we actually observe within science. "Science can't answer X,Y,Z." Sir, do you know what an argument from ignorance is? Are you saying, your God exist in the ever receding pockets of ignorance within science? The academic dismissed the questions as foolish because he understands they're fallacious in nature, something you clearly don't. I like how you think the academic is being arrogant, when you're literally waving your ignorance around like a flag, like it's something to be proud of. You don't understand how to identify fallacious reasoning, and you accuse the academic of being arrogant for dismissing it, hilarious. So, you want people to present a genetic fallacy to non believers? And you think that's supposed to satisfy the non believers question about science conflicting with the bible? It's like the poor reasoning just floods out of you, openly. As to the stupid tea pot analogy. Is it beneficial for us as a social species; if we go around poisoning our mothers? No, the answer is no. And I didn't require any God, to arrive at that conclusion. It's like all reason, rational thought, and empathy, go out the window with you guys if you're God stops existing tomorrow, it's wild.
First of all, I’m glad you can quote the host. That at least shows you were paying attention to some of the podcast but, due to the rest of your comment I’m not so sure you paid attention to the whole thing. In regards to this podcast, it doesn’t matter one bit how you, me, the host, or anyone else views the Bible. It doesn’t matter if any of us believe in a 6000 year old earth, or if the earth and light existed before the sun or any of that. That’s not his point. His point is simply that science is incomplete. Science doesn’t answer the metaphysical questions of life. If you don’t believe in God or the Bible, that’s fine, but you still have to (or should) come up with answers (and how you got there) for those type of questions. And of course he doesn’t believe the Bible is mistaken, he’s a Christian pastor. He’s doing the podcast for believers to help them engage with folks who claim science has disproven Christianity. So, the starting point for his audience is belief in God and His inerrant Word. Now, let me quote you, “You’re teaching that people shouldn’t even bother examining these things openly or honestly.” I’m pretty sure the host doesn’t say that AT ALL or anything like that. You have to actually watch the podcast in order to comment intelligently. And yeah, way to defer the point from the joke. The joke first of all, is a joke, but secondly, how is the point moot? God created ex nihilo, from nothing, but science has to use things already in existence to observe them. Point being, they are not in conflict. God creates. Science observes. Make your points better man. Regarding your example of what happened at your Bible study (One a side-note, the source of such information is crucial. I have read research that shows corporal punishment can actually be beneficial when done in certain ways, not to mention countless evidentiary evidence for its positive effects.) But, I think your friend at the Bible study could have worded himself or herself a bit better. But you are using the term “science” there rather loosely. I’m not sure I’d call research into subjective effects of corporal punishment, undoubtedly with numerous variables, “science”. But, even if you do, even the interpretation that the Bible supports corporal punishment is disputed. Besides, none of that is the host’s point. He’s saying that science can’t answer everything. It’s incomplete. Now, onto your commentary of the conversation between Lennox and the atheistic scientist, which by the way, I take offense at you calling him the “academic” as if John Lennox is not an academic. Or rather you hinting that Christians have not been some of the most intelligent and academic persons in world history. John Owen, Jonathan Edwards, Abraham Kuper, John Flavel, Charles Spurgeon, Adoniram Judson, William Tyndale, C.S. Lewis, I could go on an on. Christians are some of the smartest people that have ever lived. So, I will refer to the atheist scientist as just that, the atheist. The host is right, he was completely being arrogant for dismissing the questions. The reason its arrogant is because its a total cop-out. To simply say, “I’m not going to answer that question because it’s a stupid question” is lazy and denies reality. Just because you think their questions are stupid doesn’t mean everyone does. And besides, who gets to say they’re stupid. Maybe I think your questions are stupid. But again, I go back to the point of his podcast is to help Christians engage with people. Calling someone’s question stupid and not worthy of an answer is not engaging with them. That may be an ok answer for you, but it’s intellectually dishonest and lazy for most. Questions such as, “Why am I here?” “What is the purpose of existence?” What happens after I die?” are human questions that deserve an answer. We don’t get to simply dismiss them because we can’t answer them. Again, to use your words, “It’s like all reason, rational thought, and empathy, go out the window with you guys.” Unbelievable. Lastly, the teapot analogy is brilliant. I think you missed the point. Lennox uses it because it proves that science is incomplete. I’m glad you have chosen not to poison your mother. And I’m glad you don’t need a God to to arrive at that conclusion….but again, that’s not Lennox’s point. His point is not that you needed God to arrive at that conclusion, but that you didn’t need science. In fact, you couldn’t have used science. So, you have decided NOT to poison your mom, good for you. Perhaps you came to that conclusion because you think murder is wrong, or because you don’t want to go to jail for murder, or because your dad would beat you up, etc. Whatever you used to come up with your conclusion is fine, it doesn’t have to be God, but it could’t have been science. That’s the point. Thanks for helping him make it!!
@@ugprayer3031 Do you know what gaslighting is?
@@BlasterMaster80 Ha! Good one. Do you know what evasion is?
KOKO keep on keeping on for such a time as this
Assertions abound from materialist, all that exists is matter. Also many explain non-physical or meta-phy questions (mind, will, free choice) by asserting they are illusions. Is that really an answer?
Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Only one Gospel: The Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
There is no god.
You're sad
@@Ihearttseals How can I be sad? In my life I have had GTO's, Jaguars, a couple of harleys. I came from a poor family and cut grass to get through school got a degree in physics and became a contract programmer making great money. I decided I was an atheist when 12. I am now 81. I live with a beautiful woman that loves me. People like you will tell me I will suffer pain and torment forever. Then you tell me you love me and will pray for me. The best you can say is that I am sad. Does it sound like it?
@@Ihearttseals Oh, I'm sorry, you mean I am a sad case for a human being. You don't mean I am down emotionally. You mean I am a not a decent person. Would you do me the honor of expressing yourself with clear English so anyone reading this gather your real intent.
@@alschneider5420 Bro had Gto's
Looking forward to hearing from you today at 4:30 PM Central!
I'd recommend any theists here to go ask an actual atheist what atheism is rather than listen to what this man or any other christian says an atheist is. He is not accurate and demonstrates that he does not understand and hasn't listened like he says to do.
Yep. Do as I say, not as I do. Typical.
55 seconds into the video, alarm bells were going off.... after explaining his definition, he says, "Skepticism isn't always a bad thing." As if the audience and he would assume that being skeptical and needing proof for belief is a bad thing..... wow..... if we weren't skeptical we would have to accept all claims right of the bat. Even other God claims. Atheists and Christians are both skeptical of every single other religion. Is skepticism not the default position? 🤔
The host was being thorough, defining terms, and trying to help those who might think that skepticism is generally bad.
Hello. By the definitions you laid out, I am a skeptic, an agnostic, and an atheist. Overall I like your advice and think that you are trying to make a positive impact on the world and I respect that, but I have 2 issues. 1st, I don't believe the story with your friend and am adding it to the list of things Christians say that never happened. The whole "You just don't want to believe because you want to sin" argument has been disingenuously ascribed to me by sore-loser street evangelists too many times. the 2nd is your advice seems to be about listening only to prove the other person wrong, not listening to understand. If you listen to someone without imbibing the notion you might be the one who is wrong.... then you aren't actually listening and are expecting more from the skeptic than you are willing to commit to yourself.
I scanned the whole page. I see: Many replies from atheists. Many trying to be informative. Few snarky. None abusive. No replies from the creator of the video. Despite it being a multiple opportunity to talk with skeptics.. No posts by theists. I find all of that quite interesting/telling.
1. Ask them about skepticism. 2. Realize its a way more sensible approach to assessing reality than your current method. 3. Adopt skepticism and give up any bronze age superstitions you may have been holding on to. 4. Great talk. Let's do it again soon. Bring your pastor next time.
No way is skepticism a more sensible approach to anything. Like the host said, some amount of skepticism is good and needed, but skepticism alone is not a belief system, it's a way to asses claims to belief and truth.
Do you have any physical evidence for a physical Jesus?
I am an agnostic skeptic on the subject of deities. However, I do know they created one religion for Bnei Esau and another religion for Bnei Ishmael. The reason was to cheat the 70 Nations out of their birthright and convert them all into complaint Noachides. Now billions of religious people believe the myth that there is a chosen people with a magical power of prophecy, a Holy Land promised to them and a Mashiach/Messiah/Mahdi End Times. It was the greatest confidence trick ever pulled.
‘God’ is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.
“The first priest was the first rogue who met the first fool.” - Voltaire
As an agnostic myself, I appreciate your focus on loving and understanding rather than "winning" the argument.
If understanding is a virtue here, why is his lack of understanding the basics of logic and standards of evidence lacking in understanding?
You are wrong right off the start line. A total skeptic is not a person who doesnt believe anything. A sieptic is a person who needs evidence for each claim. There is not a difference between an atheist and an agnostic. There are agnostic atheist who do not know if there is a god but does not believe there is a god as well. Atheist are also skeptics as they question your claim. That is the epitomy if skepticism. We ask that you know your matirrial. Most believers that i communicate with have never read the entire bible. That is problematic because if you want to use quotes from the bible, yet do not know the bible. Telling us that we love sin when we do not velieve in sin just shows how your own argument is disingenuous. Or you could just bring evidence. Not claims. Do not listen to this man. He dhows that he has no knowledge on how to engage with a skeptic or an atheist.
This should be titled "gaslighting 101"
11:39 Yes, there are contradictions in the Bible. Irreconcilable contradictions. But let's say there aren't actual contradictions, just *apparent* contradictions. Couldn't GOD have taken care of it and make it so the Bible contains not only zero contradictions, but also zero _apparent_ contradictions?
No there really aren't irreconcilable contradictions. Give me one. And sure, God could have made the Bible perfect but one of the great things about the God of the Bible, is that He chooses to use human beings to carry out His purposes in this world. It's a great thing to be a part of the Kingdom of God!
The Bible states that the sin of the father shall not be something the son bears: _Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20._ The Bible also states the opposite: that the son _shall_ bear the sins of the father: _Exodus 20:5, Deuteronomy 5:9, Exodus 34:6-7, 1 Cor. __15:22__._ Let's start with that, and with you telling me please how Judas died and what he did with the money he got for the selling of the information of Jesus. Also, how many people were there when the tomb of Jesus was visited and found empty, how many we're male and female, and what time of the day it was. And finally, you just admitted that the Bible isn't perfect! You said that GOD could have made it perfect but didn't! Why? Why would GOD intentionally make it so the Bible isn't perfect? This is one of the only times I see a Christian admit this.
@@I_am_Mister_Y These are not that hard to explain. Proper understanding stems from knowing the Bible and biblical history. The three passages you mentioned saying that the son shall bear the sins of the Father are all from the 10 commandments, which is crucial to interpretation. The 10 Commandments were the moral law given to the Israelites. According to their history, God typically treats them as His chosen people, as a nation, as a whole. If the nation is sinful and rebellious then God punishes the nation. It’s a covenant between God and his people. The nation needs to be one that follows God and obeys Him. The 1 Corinthians 15:22 passage is a different doctrine altogether. It’s called “the imputation of Adam” which explains how one man’s sin (Adam) causes all humans to be born with a sinful nature. Which in turn leads to the imputation of Christ, how one man’s sacrifice (Jesus on the cross) can pay for all of our sins. The other passages you mentioned, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 and others like it are dealing with normal criminal law. Laws that govern everyday life. Therefore, if a Father hires someone for a wage and doesn’t pay him, the son can’t be punished. You’re dealing with two different categories of law. Regarding Judas, the two accounts you’re referring to are Matthew 27:3-8 and Acts 1:18-19. I agree that they seem to be contradictory but they’re not really at all. Matthew says that Judas betrayed Jesus, felt remorse and returned the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Then, due to his remorse he went out and hanged himself. Luke, in Acts, says that “this man” (referring to Judas) “acquired a field with his unrighteous wages”. You falsely assume that this is the same 30 pieces of silver Judas got for betraying Jesus. But it doesn’t say that. We know from John 12:6 that Judas was the treasurer for the disciples and that he was embezzling money for quite some time. Peter, (who is the one speaking in Acts 1) certainly knew that so the “unrighteous wages” Judas used to purchase the field could have been any of the money he stole from the moneybag. And simply, when Judas hanged himself he could have easily fell afterwards and and had his intestines spilled out. The account in Acts 1 would have most likely been at least 40 days after Judas hanged himself, (Acts 1:3). plenty of time for the branch to break, animals to tear at him and cause him to fall, etc. Finally, regarding the tomb. Here’s the apparent contradiction. According to Matthew, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary are the tombs first visitors (Matt 28:1) According to Mark, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, and Salome (Mark 16:1) According to Luke, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, Joanna, and “other women” (Luke 24:10) According to John, Mary Magdalene was there (John 20:1) So, I’m struggling to see the contradiction. You only have a contradiction if the claim and the negation of the claim are both asserted as true. Matthew doesn’t say that ONLY Mary M and the other Mary are there. Mark doesn’t either. John doesn’t say that Mary M was the only one there. Also, none of them claim the absence of any one. It would be a contradiction if Luke said, “Mary M was there, along with Mary the mother of James, but Salome was NOT.” Then, you’d have a contradiction. Same with the angels. The four gospel writers were four different people who chose to emphasize different things and people. They don’t contradict. If I threw a birthday party and all my friends came. Afterwards I had everyone write an account of what happened and who all was there. My friend Bob might only mention three people, maybe his closest friends. My friend Sam, who is an accountant, would try his best to list everyone. My friend Will, might only list one other person. They also might choose to emphasize different things. Bob might highlight the fact that my son threw the cake in the trash. Sam might talk about how much the party probably cost. Will might talk about the presents I got. None of them are wrong or contradictory. They are representing different eyewitness accounts. And yes, I admit that our translations and copies off the original manuscripts are not perfect. They have errors. The errors are discovered and are there for the world to see. I believe that the original autographs of course, did not have errors. But the fact that God chose to use people to copy and transmit His Word throughout time is remarkable.
@@I_am_Mister_Y These are not that hard to explain. Proper understanding stems from knowing the Bible and biblical history. The three passages you mentioned saying that the son shall bear the sins of the Father are all from the 10 commandments, which is crucial to interpretation. The 10 Commandments were the moral law given to the Israelites. According to their history, God typically treats them as His chosen people, as a nation, as a whole. If the nation is sinful and rebellious then God punishes the nation. It’s a covenant between God and his people. The nation needs to be one that follows God and obeys Him. The 1 Corinthians 15:22 passage is a different doctrine altogether. It’s called “the imputation of Adam” which explains how one man’s sin (Adam) causes all humans to be born with a sinful nature. Which in turn leads to the imputation of Christ, how one man’s sacrifice (Jesus on the cross) can pay for all of our sins. The other passages you mentioned, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 and others like it are dealing with normal criminal law. Laws that govern everyday life. Therefore, if a Father hires someone for a wage and doesn’t pay him, the son can’t be punished. You’re dealing with two different categories of law. Regarding Judas, the two accounts you’re referring to are Matthew 27:3-8 and Acts 1:18-19. I agree that they seem to be contradictory but they’re not really at all. Matthew says that Judas betrayed Jesus, felt remorse and returned the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Then, due to his remorse he went out and hanged himself. Luke, in Acts, says that “this man” (referring to Judas) “acquired a field with his unrighteous wages”. You falsely assume that this is the same 30 pieces of silver Judas got for betraying Jesus. But it doesn’t say that. We know from John 12:6 that Judas was the treasurer for the disciples and that he was embezzling money for quite some time. Peter, (who is the one speaking in Acts 1) certainly knew that so the “unrighteous wages” Judas used to purchase the field could have been any of the money he stole from the moneybag. And simply, when Judas hanged himself he could have easily fell afterwards and and had his intestines spilled out. The account in Acts 1 would have most likely been at least 40 days after Judas hanged himself, (Acts 1:3). plenty of time for the branch to break, animals to tear at him and cause him to fall, etc. Finally, regarding the tomb. Here’s the apparent contradiction. According to Matthew, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary are the tombs first visitors (Matt 28:1) According to Mark, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, and Salome (Mark 16:1) According to Luke, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, Joanna, and “other women” (Luke 24:10) According to John, Mary Magdalene was there (John 20:1) So, I’m struggling to see the contradiction. You only have a contradiction if the claim and the negation of the claim are both asserted as true. Matthew doesn’t say that ONLY Mary M and the other Mary are there. Mark doesn’t either. John doesn’t say that Mary M was the only one there. Also, none of them claim the absence of any one. It would be a contradiction if Luke said, “Mary M was there, along with Mary the mother of James, but Salome was NOT.” Then, you’d have a contradiction. Same with the angels. The four gospel writers were four different people who chose to emphasize different things and people. They don’t contradict. If I threw a birthday party and all my friends came. Afterwards I had everyone write an account of what happened and who all was there. My friend Bob might only mention three people, maybe his closest friends. My friend Sam, who is an accountant, would try his best to list everyone. My friend Will, might only list one other person. They also might choose to emphasize different things. Bob might highlight the fact that my son threw the cake in the trash. Sam might talk about how much the party probably cost. Will might talk about the presents I got. None of them are wrong or contradictory. They are representing different eyewitness accounts. And yes, I admit that our translations and copies off the original manuscripts are not perfect. They have errors. The errors are discovered and are there for the world to see. I believe that the original autographs of course, did not have errors. But the fact that God chose to use people to copy and transmit His Word throughout time is remarkable.
@@I_am_Mister_Y These are not that hard to explain. Proper understanding stems from knowing the Bible and biblical history. The three passages you mentioned saying that the son shall bear the sins of the Father are all from the 10 commandments, which is crucial to interpretation. The 10 Commandments were the moral law given to the Israelites. According to their history, God typically treats them as His chosen people, as a nation, as a whole. If the nation is sinful and rebellious then God punishes the nation. It’s a covenant between God and his people. The nation needs to be one that follows God and obeys Him. The 1 Corinthians 15:22 passage is a different doctrine altogether. It’s called “the imputation of Adam” which explains how one man’s sin (Adam) causes all humans to be born with a sinful nature. Which in turn leads to the imputation of Christ, how one man’s sacrifice (Jesus on the cross) can pay for all of our sins. The other passages you mentioned, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 and others like it are dealing with normal criminal law. Laws that govern everyday life. Therefore, if a Father hires someone for a wage and doesn’t pay him, the son can’t be punished. You’re dealing with two different categories of law. Regarding Judas, the two accounts you’re referring to are Matthew 27:3-8 and Acts 1:18-19. I agree that they seem to be contradictory but they’re not really at all. Matthew says that Judas betrayed Jesus, felt remorse and returned the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Then, due to his remorse he went out and hanged himself. Luke, in Acts, says that “this man” (referring to Judas) “acquired a field with his unrighteous wages”. You falsely assume that this is the same 30 pieces of silver Judas got for betraying Jesus. But it doesn’t say that. We know from John 12:6 that Judas was the treasurer for the disciples and that he was embezzling money for quite some time. Peter, (who is the one speaking in Acts 1) certainly knew that so the “unrighteous wages” Judas used to purchase the field could have been any of the money he stole from the moneybag. And simply, when Judas hanged himself he could have easily fell afterwards and and had his intestines spilled out. The account in Acts 1 would have most likely been at least 40 days after Judas hanged himself, (Acts 1:3). plenty of time for the branch to break, animals to tear at him and cause him to fall, etc. Finally, regarding the tomb. Here’s the apparent contradiction. According to Matthew, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary are the tombs first visitors (Matt 28:1) According to Mark, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, and Salome (Mark 16:1) According to Luke, Mary Magdalene was there, along with Mary, the mother of James, Joanna, and “other women” (Luke 24:10) According to John, Mary Magdalene was there (John 20:1) So, I’m struggling to see the contradiction. You only have a contradiction if the claim and the negation of the claim are both asserted as true. Matthew doesn’t say that ONLY Mary M and the other Mary are there. Mark doesn’t either. John doesn’t say that Mary M was the only one there. Also, none of them claim the absence of any one. It would be a contradiction if Luke said, “Mary M was there, along with Mary the mother of James, but Salome was NOT.” Then, you’d have a contradiction. Same with the angels. The four gospel writers were four different people who chose to emphasize different things and people. They don’t contradict. If I threw a birthday party and all my friends came. Afterwards I had everyone write an account of what happened and who all was there. My friend Bob might only mention three people, maybe his closest friends. My friend Sam, who is an accountant, would try his best to list everyone. My friend Will, might only list one other person. They also might choose to emphasize different things. Bob might highlight the fact that my son threw the cake in the trash. Sam might talk about how much the party probably cost. Will might talk about the presents I got. None of them are wrong or contradictory. They are representing different eyewitness accounts. And yes, I admit that our translations and copies off the original manuscripts are not perfect. They have errors. The errors are discovered and are there for the world to see. I believe that the original autographs of course, did not have errors. But the fact that God chose to use people to copy and transmit His Word throughout time is remarkable.