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Thank you for sharing this interview with Dr. Harris & Huong!

Thank you! I read a couple of papers by Toby Rollo and it was great to hear him discuss these issues.

I found this video very compelling! It should have way, way more views. It would have been great if you added more real life examples of what constitutes a time-out right at the beginning, because at around 4:00 the description is very technical. So an additional tiny explanation in simpler terms with a bit of storytelling (especially for us non-English speakers) would have been great. Other than that, such a good video and definitely food for thought. Different popular figures and psychologists have very different views on this form of disciplining the child, and it got me really confused over the years. And the confusing part is that unlike regular people, all these psychologists presumably know how to read studies. My understanding is that when you discipline a child, you presumably help them foster an ability for self-discipline, because in the future lack of compliance to the world's demands or even the person's own demands to themselves may result in general problems in life. However, I also understand that withholding human interaction, especially with the caregiver, and presuming that the child has a capability for self control at a certain age (instead of needing a caregiver to co-regulate) may be a huge issue at the moment, and down the road. So I'll definitely watch for the next episode to further try to understand this.

I say helpful. We follow super nanny time outs. Haven't needed to do them as often these days. Works well if done properly in my opinion.

Too much info on what we are doing wrong and too little concrete information on what to actually do. Couldnt get myself to watch the whole thing - maybe someone will be able to point out the tips in the comments if any will show up

Proverbs 13:24 [24]He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes*. Proverbs 23:13-14 [13]Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. [14]Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 [18]If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: [19]Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; [20]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. [21]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. *Can you explain “betimes?” 04/17/2022 Christian ambassador (Shawn Brasseaux) CAN YOU EXPLAIN “BETIMES?” by Shawn Brasseaux “Betimes,” although unfamiliar to us, is actually derived from two easy words we know all too well-“by” and “time.” The concept being communicated is soon, early, or in good time; it is in contrast to something being late or stalled. We find it five times in the King James text: Genesis 26:31: “And they rose up betimes in the morning, and sware one to another: and Isaac sent them away, and they departed from him in peace.” 2 Chronicles 36:15: “And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place:….” Job 8:5: “If thou wouldest seek unto God betimes, and make thy supplication to the Almighty;….” Job 24:5: “Behold, as wild asses in the desert, go they forth to their work; rising betimes for a prey: the wilderness yieldeth food for them and for their children.” Proverbs 13:24: “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.”

Hi. I am an RN, the owner of the Marina's Emotional Support as well as CTMH-A and SSP provider, and ISPW facilitator. It seems to me that, taking from your own words, you do not really understand PVT. I doubt also that you have any background in analyzing research. With all due respect, I must say that It would be helpful to get educated first because otherwise, you are repeating non-sense said by other people and spreading misinformation. Paul Grossman has not come up with his own theory, he just started attacking someone else's because he himself never looked at his traumas that prevent him from seeing clearly. Whatever arguments he presented do not really apply. Lizards do not nurse their young - period the end. He never reached out to Dr. Porges to discuss his concerns either but rather went ahead with his agenda to discredit his work, which btw, I find revolutionary. PVT already helped so many people realize their humanness and be on the road to recovery that no Paul Grossman and others who are on the same page with him, can stop it.

Providing meaning/purpose "right brain" feels like it is just a story creation like the left story creates with logic. For me, stories either left or right brained are both 2 sides of the same map. Neither are the territory.

I have 2 main traumatic events that keep me in some sort of sinister mindset. First trauma happened at the hands of my mother's lover. Second comes from a violent knife attack I lived to speak about. So, I literally have reached a place where I have just accepted that I am no longer capable of any range of human interaction on any level. These events along with other added garbage that I have done to myself have made it impossible to have any meaningful relationships. I have been stuck in fight mode from my ordeals. I already know I will never be the same person I used to be. Stay blessed everyone. I try daily

NEVER SPANK!! If you spank a child you’re an abuser😡😡. Shame on you 🤮🤮. Listen to child psychologists!

I must say that: "That's just electrical activity in somebody's head" became my go-to strategy when dealing with unsolicited advice and criticism. It's such a useful concept. On a separate note, I'm a huge fan of Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett's work. Thank you for the inspiring interview.

Dr. Doody is shall we say being cutesy to point of risible! Of course mammals evolved from reptiles. Not from modern reptiles but from a common ancient ancestor before the split into modern reptiles and mammals unless you don’t believe in evolution and perhaps throw in flat earth society disposition as well! Secondly, to say or infer rodents are not Highly social not just with respect to nursing but the full range of social signaling, play and even as being measured shown but Panksepp, laughter is absurd. Equally laughable , we are talking are talking about mammalian social behavior and its specific anatomical and physiological correlates. Not reptilian “social behavior” and its unmyelineated dorsal vagal immobilization characteristics. As far as the other criticisms they are embarrassingly inaccurate or tangential. Neuroanatomically and neurophysiologically the differences between the structure and function of the ventral vagal complex (V, VII, IX, X and XI) and two visceromotor myelinated pathways, bronchi and sinoatrial node (pacemaker) of the heart are foundational and incontrovertible in evolutionary distinction of the vegetative vagus (dorsal motor complex). Porges also extensively talks about the vagus corticobulbar pathways into higher brain functions (temporal lobe, periacqueductal grey, amygdala etc.

Great video. I like you.

What if the child does not have a way to clearly articulate their needs? What do you do as a parent in collaboration for plan B?

I was waiting for the voice of reason summary of Jen at the end but it never came. Feels wrong to have statements thrown around like 'the more ovulations the better for your health' without any fact-cheking. Can even be dangerous to discourage people from hormonal birth control without any proof, especially in the current climate. This one is a miss for me.

3 examples of how body language is not universal: 1. In India, there are not one, but several nuanced variations of what Westerners know as “nodding”. 2. Bulgarians shake their heads for “Yes”, and nod for “No” 3. Most Asians do not gesture “Come here” the way Westerners do. They would consider that degrading - since it is reserved for animals. They wave their hand in a flapping motion towards the ground. Also, most all cultural responses are quite different in collectivist (Asian) societies as opposed to individualistic cultures (American, British, Australian, Canadian, etc.).

Does high IQ and perfectionism go together often?

As far as the effects of RSA (respiratory sinus arrhythmia) being questionable is simply untrue. Look at apnea, tachycardia and neurogenic bradycardia in SIDS amongst preemies born prior to 28 weeks. The protective myelinated (ventral) vagus is simply not there. There is a direct causal relationship. Much of Steve’s work is entirely borne out by human embryology.

Core affective emotions are universally hardwired, parabrachial nucleus, part of the lateral reticular formation, the periacqueductal gray, hypothalamus, etc. Seeking System/Curiosity, Panic, Sadness, Rage, Lust,, Nurturance/love, Play/Laughter. The outward various cultural expressions may subtly vary but they are identical with respect to accompanied autonomic state. If you prefer looking at animals they are the same. Lisa Barrett who you cite, the darling of cognitive neuroscience is actually fringe and doesn’t hold a candle to Mark Solmes and the father of Affective Neuroscience who actually correlated, mapped these systems empirically, Jaak Panksepp.

You are completely destroying an entire generation of children, Dr. Greene. You should be ashamed of yourself. We can see the results of your theories in action and it is not pretty. I feel bad for the children being raised this way and never learning to take any accountability for their actions.

It's always so funny to me when Boomers pretend that history began with them and will also end with them, and there's nothing outside of that... The evidence for the efficacy of spanking is hundreds of thousands of years of human experience. People always did it, and it always worked. Instead of looking at this vast amount of human experience, they ask for studies... But what sort of studies do these "science based" Boomers have? They are almost always ones that (intentionally?) lump together the cases where the alcoholic dad, who just got out of prison beats the whole family to a pulp; with cases where responsible parents use spanking as a last deterrent, rarely implemented, and never in anger, in an environment that is otherwise based on positive reinforcement. Could it be possible that these wonderfully enlightened Boomers were/are wrong in all their assumptions?

amazing episode and covers most concepts of the limit setting workshop, so this is a great refresher! but i have to say, the throwaway comment about another student "sleeping with the teacher".. yikes!

You are a gift from God. Thank you

interesting how you can make a video debunking many of poly vagals claims but not this man? Many of his claims are also not supported by evidence.

What do you think of attachment theory ?

This is so tricky. I really want to be on board with this. The psycho/social aspect makes great sense. But I think the importance of nutritional quality may be underappreciated? I see a very clear relationship between my toddler having a sugary snack without enough protein/fat/fiber and having wild meltdowns or getting crazy hungry later (including the middle of the night). I know if I ate just a bowl of blueberries and two pieces of white bread (or even whole grain bread) for dinner I'd be icky-hungry in the middle of the night. Or if I ate that for breakfast I'd feel sluggish. My adhd is absolutely worse if I eat high carbs with minimal little protein/fat. I wonder whether a young child can make the connection between what they ate and how they feel (possibly hours later). So tricky. Really appreciated your questions!

This information is gold!!!🤩🥹❤ So grateful for Mara’s work on the human desire to matter and receive care💯 Thank you so much, Mara! You are appreciated!💖💝

This is such and awesome exposition of the subject!!! Thank you so much for your efforts, you have even a great setup for recording! I wish this had reached more people , I think maybe the title isn't helping maybe something like Why the PVT is a myth and why that may not be that bad or something like that. My point is that it may be titled like an article and in youtube there is more to the creating curiosity (: not clickbait or anything but something that sparks that curiosity, I think in your title people that "asupport" the theory may dismiss it and even be offende, and the people that dismiss the theory may be like ikr? next video haha and you actually have so much more to offer to both camps. This is truly great (: I wil check out all youother videos.

Saw a client today I have worked with for a long time, yet just practiced emphatic understanding like it was the first time. It felt right for me and I believe it helped in our therapeutic relationship. Thank you for this redicovery.

There are COUNTLESS well adjusted humans that have been spanked who have turned out to be much more respectful and high functioning adults than those who have been loosely parented and molded into snowflakes. Depends on who is doing the research. People will always find information to support their views. I was spanked here and there and in all honesty I was not and am not traumatized. I have rarely heard anyone say they are traumatized by being spanked. There is spanking and there is beating and they are not the same. We need to have conversations about what we need to do to raise strong, humble, and confident adults.

There should be tons of positive comments here for these brilliant women!

This is solid psychology and science! I raised both my children on this method and both are adults with a wide variety of food likes. Read and study her methodology and you will overcome mealtime struggles - this will NOT happen overnight but over time you will see a difference in your child's eating patterns.

Just in time since I'm dealing with this around me

This is really interesting. I have a very fussy child and I am always worrying about her health.

An excellent description and explanation. So helpful. Thank you for sharing.

You are not autistic.

Spanking is very worst and cannot enter into heaven

Yes

Your analysis was very helpful to my efforts to grapple with this very same subject. I appreciate your process and conclusion.

This one really connected with me. I’m not a parent, but I find many of your podcasts so useful for my work as an educator. Most days I witness at least one coworker yelling at a child, getting in their face, and doling out punishments. The children’s needs are rarely, if ever, taken into consideration. Similar to your compassion for your stepmother, I recognize that many of my fellow educators behavior comes from a place of their own overwhelm and frustration - not a genuine malice towards children. In the American school system it is very hard to get your professional needs met in a consistent way. Still, I see how this leads to children disengaging over time. Not just with school, but often learning altogether. School is something forced upon them in the first place. Plain and simple. In much of the US, kids have little choice throughout k-12 in what they are learning and how they are learning it. I so wish there was a “Teaching Beyond Power” spin off (or even one time episode) discussing how your philosophy can apply to adults working with children in professional contexts. The cultural roles of parenting and educating are a fascinating intersection. I’d be happy to share more of my own experiences and thoughts if you or your team would be open to chatting. Thanks for all you do.

Ok, this neil chap seems to have blocked me after telling me i dont know what I'm talking about, so my replies to him aren't posting, so I'm gonna say what i have to say to him here. 😂LOL, ok, neil-guy who apparently has swallowed the PV garbage whole hog... 1. No self respecting physiologist supports this hairbrained non "theory". 2. Predictive processing reduces the entire bag of PV garbage ideas to folk psychological nonsense. But hey, enjoy your steak while that ship sinks, 🍻.

Patriarchy will always exist. Matriarchy will always exist.

I mean most drugs have very little sound scientific evidence that they’re safe or effective and they’re used radically more than this theory is. Evidence in a lot of science often seems to mean ‘we made a study and lied with statistics leaving out critical variables by cherry picking results and many other means in order to get the results we want’. Everyone seems to challenge the results only when it’s an approach they don’t like.

Great! Thank you both!

Many who got spanked as a kid say they don't resent their parents. They grew up normally and well-behaved and successful in life. I was one. It's effective when done right and destructive in excess'. Obviously parents shouldn't enjoy spanking -but because they don't like to do it doesn't mean it's bad. There's good physical discipline and totally unacceptable physical discipline. Most kids don't need to be, and shouldn't be, spanked. However, nothing wrong with spanking strong willed kids for severe disciplinary infractions after other means are exhausted.

You raise some interesting points and I appreciate the level of detail. I wanted to address this comment: "surely if PVT were completely invalid, there would be an absolute dog pile of research from people anxious to disprove it." In reality, what I have heard from researchers is most could care less about PVT because to them it is so obviously wrong. They simply don't have the time for it.

For entertainment purposes only, I go back and listen once again. The reason Polyvagal theory is not falsifiable is that the science supporting it is derived from long established, well- substantiated facts in neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neuroendocrinology and embryology. You are very confused. "The vagal nerve is not the 'cause' of social differences." The vagus nerve is simply a conduit. It is affect -reciprocal co-regulatory engagement (i.e., neuroceptive and interoceptive cues of safety or danger) that then results in shifts in vagal regulation and cardiac tone (e.g., RSA). Your quoting of Dr. Doody@ 1:15 , (his points) are risible to the point of utter absurdity. It stands as a laughingstock on the basis of facts. 1) Mammals did not evolve from "modern reptiles" that's correct, however, they did indeed evolve from a common ancestor to both reptiles and mammals. 2) It is both tragically sad and hilarious that you believe that reptiles are social in any shape manner or form like mammals. Reptiles do not engage in nurturing their young, nursing, grooming, playing, laughing; up regulating (affective states of joy) and down regulating (affective states of sadness or crying) through social-engagement. They do not down regulate cues of threat through social play and engagement. Their dominant neuroanatomical and neurophysiological response under threat is to immobilize. They do not have at their disposal the mammalian myelinated ventral vagal complex. Because their oxygenation requirements are 500% less than the mammalian brain, they can without harm immobilize (i.e., feign death) when under life threat. The cardioinhibitory fibers clustered and migrated from the dorsal motor nucleus to form the nucleus ambiguus and significantly coordinate and inter-neuronally link with the five cranial nerves (V, VII, IX, X and XI) to form the social-emotional autonomic nervous system (the ventral vagal complex) of mammals. We don't need to turn to phylogeny but simply our owbn human embryology to see how our physiology and associated pathways ways form. Of course the brain was re-wired in mammals to express sociality and down-regulate defense (i.e., the migration of the cardioinhibitory fibers neuroanatomically linked and coordinated with the five cranial nerves mentioned and visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node and bronchi forming the ventral vagal complex). That my "informed one" is a truism. It is not even in question! That is not a "just-so" story that is a phylogenetic and neuroanatomical fact! However, we do not need to turn to evolution from a-social reptiles to mammalian autonomic nervous system, we simply can look IN THE PRESENT at how the autonomic nervous system in babies develop, Embryology. They transition precisely through the same stages, dorsal motor nucleus to a myelinated ventral vagal complex. "Heart-rate variability is not the reason we over-react in certain situations." Heart rate variability and specifically RSA is a window, a measurement of the efficiency of the vagal brake, which reflects, key word, reflects ( NOT causes) how safe, unsafe or withdrawal/shut down we feel with others and our environment. You have it backwards. Cited in some 15,000 peer-reviewed articles. The theory is not wrong.

Self compassion can be self improvement. If your working towards self compassion at any level..it's a foundation to self improvement.. Who agrees? 👍🏻👍🏿👍🏼👍🏽

Thank you for all your work on this. I’ve been wondering about the legitimacy of PVT and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for

Watch the full episode here - ua-cam.com/video/oldR9VSVTWY/v-deo.html