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Pack Monkey Designs
Приєднався 14 жов 2017
How almost anyone can pack their parachute in 7 minutes
First I go over hard openings, why they happen, and how to pack your parachute to avoid them.
Then I show you how anyone can pack their parachute in about 7 minutes.
Want one for yourself?
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www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device
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m. 102985348176836/
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Then I show you how anyone can pack their parachute in about 7 minutes.
Want one for yourself?
USA:
www.packmonkeydesigns.com
UK shoppers:
www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey
Euro Shoppers:
sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey
www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device
Germany:
westerwings.de/shop/pack-monkey/
Australian/NZ shoppers:
m. 102985348176836/
***We will no longer be selling through Amazon (Aug 2022). You can still read the 100+ reviews there: amzn.to/2lCick5
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Updated: Packing a Pilot 210 with Pack Monkey
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A demonstration of the new method of packing using Pack Monkey on a larger canopy, a Pilot 210. Want one for yourself? USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com UK shoppers: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Euro Shoppers: sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device Australian/NZ shoppers: m. 102985348176836/ We will no longer be selling through Amazon (Aug 20...
Updated: How to pack a parachute with Pack Monkey
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Now with better slider control! Here I show an updated parachute packing method using Pack Monkey. This method uses only a single S-fold, and controls the slider throughout the pack job. Additionally, closing the bag the entire way, and double-stowing all line bites is recommended. Want one for yourself? USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com UK shoppers: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Euro Shoppers: s...
Pack Monkey on a 7-cell accuracy canopy
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At Skydive Carolina, I had the chance to test Pack Monkey on a ~260 square foot 7-cell accuracy canopy. This canopy was pretty new, however it is made from something like F111 (not ZP). The rig was also new, and the deployment bag was a tight fit, which is why we gave it a try. This is my first attempt: it was tight but it went in squarely. You can see the s-folding is different than PRO-packin...
Pack Monkey in 30s
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A quick demonstration showing how Pack Monkey helps you put your parachute in the bag reliably and quickly, every time. Want one for yourself? USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com UK shoppers: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Euro Shoppers: sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device Australian/NZ shoppers: m. 102985348176836/ We will no longer be sellin...
How to pack a parachute using Pack Monkey
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(June 21, 2019) Here I demonstrate step-by-step instructions on how to easily and neatly pack your parachute using Pack Monkey. Check out the updated S-folding method to pack with better slider control: ua-cam.com/video/m6hAskQczI0/v-deo.html Want one for yourself? USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com UK shoppers: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Euro Shoppers: sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey www.360skypro....
Pack Monkey Promo
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Pack Monkey let's you pack your canopy more easily, reliably, and quickly! Want one for yourself? USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com UK shoppers: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Euro Shoppers: sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device Australian/NZ shoppers: m. 102985348176836/ We will no longer be selling through Amazon (Aug 2022). You can still re...
Yeah thats one thing I wont be rushing. Pack monkey is cool though.
So unnecessary. An embarrassment to the sport.
please explain why you think this?
@@packmonkeydesigns it hinders learning. No real skydiver uses one of these. You can pack faster once you learn how to pack properly.
This is such a scam. I've seen people trying to use a pack monkey at the drop zone and it still takes them 20 minutes. Whatever happened to just learning how to pack a parachute properly?
why do you think this is a scam?
@@packmonkeydesigns it’s unnecessary and doesn’t teach how to pack properly.
@@Cameraflyer- there are multiple ways to pack a parachute. For example psycho packing and flat packing are two others. Do you consider those improper pack jobs? Also, while Pack Monkey is not necessary, it does make packing easier for some, depending on there skill level, hand size, health (arthritis etc), and (new) canopy/d-bag combination. To me this is just a tool: much like you can cut down a tree with an axe, it is probably easier to use a chainsaw. I just don't understand why you and a few others feel such a negative emotional response to this tool that you need to come on here and call this a disgrace (as you did on my other video). Yeah, it might not be for everyone, but at least I am trying to contribute to the sport. What have you done, besides anonymously troll me on youtube?
What do you recommend for newer jumpers a large canopy or a smalleer one.
I need these videos recommended to me
Why I'm not surprised the perfect opening example is from a Crossfire? 😆
I just bought mine. I suspect it will make getting canopy into d - bag much easier.
Pack Monkey is the best/wish I had thought of it
Justbgot mine...for a new canopy it saves heaps of times...I think everyone should learn to pack without one but once your reaady to shave off time in your packing it is the way to go...alot of jumpers knock it but haven't tried one...ressentful for sure.
I agree, thank you for leaving a comment Steve. James
PackMonkey is the best
Team jumping-YES; Fun jumping, I packed in 30 minutes, no worry no hurry.
where to buy?
There are a few places, depending on where you are located: USA: www.packmonkeydesigns.com GB: www.dzsports.co.uk/pack-monkey Europe: sky-shop.eu/packing-monkey www.360skypro.com/products/pack-monkey-packing-device Australian/NZ shoppers: m.facebook.com/102985348176836/
someone loaned me theirs on saturday. it was my first packing job on my own and i just kept messing up. New canopy, new packer, LOTS of walking away and repacking after i calmed down. the guy saw me having trouble and offered his pack monkey. things went a whole lot better after that and i actually got it in the D bag. i took too long packing and didnt make the last ride up to test my pack job. i watched several videos on how to pack the sabre 3 and i did the required class to get an A but it doesnt prepare you for the frustrations of packing a new canopy or knowing if youre actually doing it correctly. My next trip out ill be placing most of my faith in the rigger who packed my reserve and hoping he doesnt have to prove his worth
It’s now few years later I’m seeing this. Are u still packing it this way and how many jumps now Curious Thank u
HI Mark, yep I still pack this way without incident. I have not been jumping much this past year (I started another business that is sucking up a lot of my spare time), but probably have about 300 jumps under my belt using this updated method. I have found that taking a quick look at the lines and canopy before laying it down has been a good idea, after I had one opening that was a bit of a whipper (and not the usual peasant, on-heading opening). I jump a sabre2 135 (still). How are you currently packing? Do you have any tricks or observations?
As a new jumper and packer (45 jumps) with a mostly new Sabre 3 190 ( about 100 jumps on it) I really struggle with getting the canopy in the dbag. I got a pack monkey last week and it definitely helps. Would recommend to anyone struggling to get their canopy in the dbag!
Thank you for leaving this review, I appreciate it! James
Nice 👌
Completely unnecessary! Learn proper packing techniques from an experienced rigger!! Rigger please!! lmao
Thank you for leaving a comment. Looking at the videos you posted about knots, it seems you have a gift with using your hands, and I can imagine that putting the canopy in the bag is not too difficult for you. So totally understandable that you wouldn't want or need a tool like Pack Monkey. BUT: Not everyone has your skills. Many people that write in to me privately have swelling or a bit of arthritis in their hands (older skydivers), and are very grateful that Pack Monkey exists since it relaxes the packing burden on already painful hands. Another group are those with small hands, particularly lady skydivers, and they simply do not have as much control over the canopy as those with bigger hands. And beyond that, there are those that just like the easier method which yields basically identical pack jobs every time. So I can see your side: pack monkey is not for you. But everyone in the sport is not like you. James.
@@packmonkeydesigns I was a Fullt itme Parachute Rigger for over 20 years with well over a 100,000 main packs and have taught and signed off on hundreds of sky divers for their A-license. Yeah, I'm good with my hands. Want to have a packing race? It only counts if you jump it!! LMAO
I don't bother with the first shake. I grab the nose with one hand, the C's,D's and brakelines with the other and stretch and shake and that puts the lines in the right place. I mushroom burrito my PC which is a bit quicker and makes it bulkier to fit tighter into the BOC. Also, cos we have a bus from the PLA to the packing shed, cock pilot chute, untangle bungies and stow brakes while waiting. Takes me about 10 mins to pack when I push I think (tho I never timed it properly) but I use no pack monkey, have a fully stowed back and use a pull up. My old canopy is fairly easy to get in the bag but will be getting a new one soon so gonna invest in a pack monkey I reckon cos it looks like it manages the canopy well and keeps the salty oily sweat off what will be quite an expensive piece of nylon! Thanks for the video!
I like your tactics. It just goes to show that there are a bunch of different ways to make the process easier and more efficient. And if you decide to buy a new canopy, pack monkey would be a good investment if you have difficulties managing the new slippery fabric. Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment! Blue Skies, James
The reason you flake is to minimize the abrasion the fabric gets from the lines. Rather than stuffing the nose cells, PD recommends rolling 3-4 cells inwards to slow down inflation. Works like a charm.
This is what my dz packer recommended that I do, as you said it works like a charm
really cool, I have knee problems, and that makes it easier, thanks.
We are happy it helps!
I just bought a new canopy , the safire 3 169 , and i’ll buy that because I’m tired to packed the fu*** sliders canopy 😅😅. I think that’s a good something for a new jumpers or new canopies frome big to medium sizes! ( sorry for English i from Spain 😊)
Thank you Luis, please reach out with any questions or ideas to improve Pack Monkey! James
first off id like to say that the pack monkey is a brilliant idea, but the reason for flaking is mostly to not burn out the canopy and put holes in, also the pull up cord is best for sport packs because it doesn't eat at the closing loop like a packboy does but other than that great job.
Ah, I wonder if my canopy has burn holes in it? I'll take a look next time I pack. I would guess that burn holes could be mitigated with some strategic canopy shaking during the previous steps (also, holes might also be dependent on canopy design and size). Thank you for leaving the and contributing to this discussion. James.
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Learn more about Pack Monkey: www.packmonkeydesigns.com **We will no longer be selling through Amazon very shortly (Aug 2022). You can still read the 100+ reviews there: amzn.to/2lCick5
I’m so excited to start my skydive training that I find myself watching videos on packing… I’ve got the bug.
It is an amazing sport and community!
How is your journey going? How many jumps now? Reserve rides yet? Intentional cut aways?
curious how many line twists you've had w/ this pack job...
Very few actually (but probably not zero). I believe with good nose placement, proper slider placement relative to the nose, good body position while deploying (so the bag doesn't spin off your back), the rest doesn't matter too much. I suppose if you packed extremely asymmetrically then you could get some line twists. Have you tried any of the tips in this video, and did you get a lot of line twists? What are your concerns with this method that will cause line twists?
I ordered a pack monkey before even finishing the video. I just started packing my own parachute and it’s been taking an embarrassing amount of time, mostly because it’s been taking me a few tries each time to get it in the d bag.
@Chase Welch yes!! It is fantastic!
LOVE THE MONKEY! Rookie jumper with 210. I hated packing until my wife bought us a pack monkey. Love your technique and totally agree all that flaking is useless in light of the chaos at deployment. Be neat but not OCD. I just wish I had invented such a great product. Thx
Thank you for the kind words Michael! James
@@packmonkeydesigns I am well into using your technique and still totally agree with you. My openings are better than ever no line twist no signs of any damage whatsoever. It has changed my Sky Diving world in so many good ways!! Also, my back and neck are so less painful from the better openings using this technique. Many at the drop zone, Come over when they see me using the pack monkey to ask questions. Some have it but never really understood how to use it. I show people your technique and they all love it. Brilliant idea. Thank you!
@@michaelwilliamsd.o.5006 Thank you Michael!
I've seen these at my local DZ and I'm about 150 jumps in and for the life of me still struggle to get the canopy in the bag. I guess it's just not something I'm natural at, so I just ordered one of these. I know an AFF instructor who struggled with packing and they use one too!
Thank you! Please let me know if you have any comments or feedback. But you are bang on: packing is sort of a skill, and just like anything some people find it easy and some find it tough. I also am not a natural, which is why I made the Pack Monkey. James
Fast packing leads to a quick descent
I really like that pack monkey, I'll have to get one. That being said, I'm not running a race to pack. I spend maybe 10 minutes, maybe a little less packing. Getting the slider right is so important! A nice presentation to the wind is critical for a smooth opening...
I've just ordered my pack monkey....
Thank you! If you have any questions or feedback, please email me: james@packmonkeydesigns.com
How about packing a large canopy? It seems to me the ratio between slider and canopy sqft is much higher on your handkerchief than it is on my Silhouette 230. I do know that pilot chute size & slider size both contribute to harder openings. It is why I had an instant open malfunction. Pilot chute was too large, slider too small, ended up with the dbag off before full extension = instant open! I will be paying attention to the slider size and packing position more closely when I get back to jumping. Thanks for the thought you put into this presentation.
Hi Keith. That opening you describe sounds brutal! I have never measured but I assume that canopy manufacturers are mostly aware of the tradeoffs between slider sizing: Too small and you risk frequent hard openings, too large and the opening might be too slow? There are probably other considerations too, I would be curious if anyone knows the answer.
@@packmonkeydesigns - from my log book: Jump 105: 6 pt 6 way went really well. Blew the center cell on opening. Emergency procedures were done without thinking. 4A lines, 3 B lines, 2 front right lines & 1 left front line (below the junction from the canopy) AND center cell ripped in half. (The tail did not rip but front and cell did.) It was like hitting a brick wall at 120 MPH - but only with your shoulders and hips. I bruised my sternum, with my helmet whiplash was that bad. I should have been knocked out but I wasn't. Grateful for that as it was one jump with no AAD as I was test jumping a rig and canopy I was looking to purchase. My AAD was already on order. My Raven Save story was in the Parachutist in 2000 or 2001 sometime. Investigation by one of the master riggers is where I found out that the slider was too small, the pilot chute too big, and how they play in the opening sequence. A too big of a slider can put you in a permanent snivel, I just don't know how large that has to be.
@@KeithBarrowsToday wow! that is brutal. Glad you weren't badly hurt, it could have been a lot worse. Hopefully manufacturers learned something from this too. Thanks for sharing. James.
I haven't packed since the 80's but the step you skip has a purpose. You should be looking at the material for any damage, cuts, abrasions, etc. Just a thought from my early years training. Good luck! Take care, Be safe.
That makes sense. I suppose one question is: how frequently should you be checking for these things? My first thought is: if my opening was normal (not a hard one, nothing out of the ordinary) I probably do not need to check. But perhaps if the opening is snappy, or there are line twists, then might be a good time to do a more thorough inspection. Thank you for the comment.
Yeahhhh...But...after.. ☠CRASHHHHDOWN☹☹☹☹☹☠😉
Excited to give this a try.
Good luck to you buddy! I admire people who think creatively and try to come up with new interesting ideas in the activity they enjoy!
Thanks for the video. I'll definitely try this method.
Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions. As you know, there is a lot of advice floating around (in skydiving and in life) and you should pick and choose what makes sense to you. James.
20 jumps Sabre 3, 210, no problems. Works great.
FFS just learn to pack!! My avarage time was 4 mins Stiletto 120 using nothing but my hands. Waste of money!!
4 mins is pretty impressive Clive, that is among the fastest I have ever seen. But I am sure you realize that packing is a skill, and some people are more inclined or better practiced that others. For example, some have smaller hands and can't control the canopy as well as big-handed people (like many lady skydivers). Some are older and have bad knees or are developing arthritis in their hands, and packing hurts. They want to make it as easy as possible. Many are new jumpers and just want to get on more loads, since they don't have a ton of pack jobs yet. Some see a drastic improvement in how neatly they can pack, and this makes them more confident in their pack jobs. Some can now easily get a new, slippery canopy in the bag without sweating all over it (which I hear commonly). If you disagree with this, that's fine with me. Pack Monkey isn't for everyone.
@@packmonkeydesigns But I am 5.5 small hands my wife is 5.1 and could pack quicker than me! It's all technique. By the way we were AFF instructors and camera in the middle 90s had to pack quick sometimes over 10 jumps a day, great day's made a ton of money. Nice chatting to you, good luck with the product.
@@cliveholyoak1428 in those days (1980 - 1995) I could pack quick as well - the canopies were different and the bags were bigger (just had a long chat with my rigger about ): I am small too with small hands, and I find it really hard to get it in the bag, especially with a new Sabre 3 . So I am grateful for a tool that might just make it a touch easier.
good job bro.. think you very much
Just got a pilot 210 with only 20 jumps on it and my pack monkey just arrived today. Haven't packed a canopy since 2005 and used to psycho pack, hoping I can do more than one jump instead of trying to pack the whole day
and when you deploy your reserve why do you lose your freebag,bridle and piot chute
semi stowless bags works a bit like those freebags that are used to deploy reserve canopies
and does wingsuit skydiving jumping (NOT WINGSUIT BASE JUMPING) decrease the chance of hard opening
and base jumpers and wingsuit base jumpers do slider up jumps
wait but base jumping sliders are made of mesh and doesent that increase the risk of a hard opening because it wont catch enough air
In BASE you don't even use a slider all the time. The slider reefs the lines which reduces the risk of a lineover malfunction, and a fast on-heading opening (even if it's hard) is preferred over a soft slow opening when you are deploying so close to the ground. Take a slider-down pack job to 4 seconds a few times, and it will redefine what you consider to be a hard opening.
some of the eliptical canopies like the pd canopies and icarus canopies have removable slider systems and those sliders catch way more air than the traditional sliders with the gromets and they flap like hell
and show us how to pack a reserve
Why would you ever need to know how to pack a reserve??
and can you show us how to uncollapse a slider
wait doesent double stowing increase the chance of baglocks
It sort of depends who you ask. After talking pretty extensively about the merits of single vs double stowing with the PD rep, I fall slightly more in the double-stow camp. The reasoning: When single stowing, there is a section of lines under the stow that are not in contact with the rubber bands, and that *might* allow for the stows to come undone prematurely (though I have not heard of this happening, perhaps there is a small chance it causes some kind of malfunction). However, PD has always double-stowed for their test jumps (they tell me), and they have never had any malfunctions due to the double-stowing. There are definitely differing opinions out there, just like a lot of things in this sport. What do you think? And, anyone else have any opinion they care to share?
it does not
Only if you use incorrect bag size or too small elastics for your lines. Otherwise - a firm NO