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For me the thing I hated the most was that she is chuckling in like 2/3 of each of her line of dialogue. It was so grating I just couldn't wait to never see her in a quest again

i’ve played since release but have never 100% any area until chenyu vale came out i don’t know what it was about the aesthetics and the music and the familiar yet new feeling it was amazing 😭🫶 i think half of me was so excited for it because of the fact that baizhu, my fave, is so tied to it, and i was so disappointed when he didn’t show up in the quest once… but despite that i still found myself in love with it 😭😭… fujin quickly because a new favorite of mine! and the end of the lantern rite quest with gaming and his father was the only time i genuinely cried when playing the game </33 i’ve been hesitant to call any other area my favorite aside from mondstadt- sumeru honestly disappointed me so much, and inazuma was… inazuma (ekinomiya (?? did i even spell it) is an exception though) and now after the disaster that’s natlan i really think genshin peaked with chenyu vale :”)) i can’t wait for her to get some much deserved attention after everything 😭🫶

Mavuika feels overpowered, and so does Citlali

I stopped playing this game after 4 years pretty much playing it every single day. I didn’t like Sumeru too much, but loved Fontaine. But when Natlan came out…I decided to quit. Both because i simply don’t have time to waste doing daily’s every day, and of course my ps has NO room for the continuous updates. But the main reason? The inconsistency in the story. Sounds dumb but it’s true. Why the fuck does Natlan get all this modern tech - A FUCKING MOTORBIKE????? - yet Mondstadt is still stuck with wooden wheels and carts? The new aesthetic really wasn’t for me at all either. But seriously. What??? Fontaine had technology but it was steampunk and pretty cool honestly - but Natlan is full on modern or even FUTURISTIC tech!!??

I cringed for the most part of the quest. It felt like a superhero stories for the 7 yo that wanted to tech children about power of frienship. They wasted potential of one one of the most awaited charcaters (capitano) and didnt even try with mavuika. She has 0 personality and its just painful wo watch. the dowfall from other nations is really disapointing

Yep, I totally understand where you're coming from. This game is filled with so much lore that will satisfy those who like exploring it, but not those who like an immersive story. Who knows how much of Genshin's lore will matter in the end. The Snezhnaya and Khaenri'ah arcs will have a lot of huge holes to fill, and they will need to make changes. Otherwise, there will be a lot of loose threads and missed opportunities. Since the main Natlan story is over, the limited time event stories leading up to 6.0 need to be less filler and character interactions and more events that are actually important to the main story. If they do that, I'm sure it will be much easier for Genshin's story situation to improve.

In neuvilettes story quest, melusienes were outcast of society but in the flashbacks, the tech remains the same as is does in game. What im trying to suggest is Fontaine has used the same tech for around 500 years, and now is just introducing it to other regions, so why does xilonen and the phlogistion create more futuristic tech than Fontaine??? Yea it’s “dragon tech” but the dragons we know of in game, dvalin, azdaha, apep , morax , neuvilette , aren’t creating crazy futuristic tech. Khan’riea uses technology similar to the dragon stuff, a bit clunky robots with letters engraved in them to give the power of logos. In lore, knan’ria was VERY advanced but why does natlan in lore an underdeveloped technological nation over power it? Yes the fatui have guns and stuff, but the house of the hearth comes from Fontaine and could of easily used the tech to make the fatui guns, also imo, the fatui use elemental materials found in the world, like the electro hammer guy could just be using electro crystals on a hammer. This is a long rant, but i needed to get it out, i dont read much into the lore, but natlan is just so much different then what info we had on it…..

Cryo Furina would also still be able to walk on water

Yes, Xianyun + Shenhe family demo was my personal Genshin peak too. I wish the quest was given to us as a hangout rather than an event just so I could replay it to experience that and other of its scenes again.

I would suggest as a solution that instead of receiving a constalation for a specific character past 6, give a unbound constalation item instead. Which could be applied to any other 4 star character to increase their active constalations. That way, even if a character isn't run for months or even years, you could still bring them to C6.

Guys Dain's line about Natlan in the travail story, WHAT THE HELL DID IT MEAN !?

The entire storyline of Natlan made Capitano a more beloved character than Mavuika herself Not only does he look cooler, but he has a better story arc than her

To be honest...most Hoyo characters are very basic and bland. Ganyu is a shy workaholic, Keqing is a smart workaholic and Jean is a concerned workaholic,...Xiangling is just a chef and Ayaka, Ayato and Kazuha are just about swordsmanship...there are only a few more complex characters in the entire Hoyoverse. And no...I dont mean the backstory locked within boring dumps of text. I value what is presented...not told. Its a personality after all. Most units are just here as plot devices. I love how Xilonen looks...but her entire point was not more than being the one who crafts things...thats NPC deep reasoning. Chasca even less. Within a CHARACTER FOKUSED STORYQUEST we only travel with the person to help RANDOM PEOPLE WE DONT CARE ABOUT. This is failing the very basics of a character related quest. We are just NPC problem solvers. So yeah...the only new thing is, that Hoyo does not care anymore if people notice they dont care about worldbuilding.

i thought for a while that Mavuika's theme was going to be that she wanted to die. they kept talking about her family and friends (Little sis mostly) being gone and her missing them. we see her lose that lady from the springs. we get to see her collection of mementos from all of her friends and she tells bittersweet stories about them, AND THEN she has to burn them all to save her current friends. there was the prophesy about her death that she didn't seem too worried about. she did the thing where she distracts everyone with a party so she can go try to do it herself without anyone interfering. they even had the moment when they ask her why and what she wants. I was super expecting a speech about how living in an era where everyone u knew and loved is dead is hard and sad and i don't wanna, but instead we got "a true leader sacrifices for there people" then along comes caption running in late to the party and is like " NO THAT WAS MY THEME ALL ALONG!" yoink! I mean I liked it, was touching and great to watch and i deff like him more now but the whiplash on that was harsh.

I preferred her bratty personality over her real one. I’m kind of sick of all the archons being so boring, she was so funny I wanted another antagonistic archon so bad

I’m new to the game, been playing 2 weeks. I got Mav and citlali as my first pulls. I literally finished the Natlan story quest. I enjoyed it. Captain sacrifice was unexpected but really cool

Honestly, Mavuika has taken the place of Raiden Shogun as my least favourite Archon so far just because of how poorly they handled her characterization. Raiden was a tyrant and harmed many people in her desire for Eternity, but she had multiple layers that showed the grieving and awkward woman beneath the stoic exterior. Her Tea Pot lines really helped me grow a soft spot for her. Mavuika is just too... flat a character. She doesn't seem to show the range of humanity, despite being a human-based Archon. Like you said, even when confronted by her dead sister, whom she loved dearly, she hardly shows an ounce of despair or grief at being reunited and than quickly separating from her again. In their effort to make her the 'ideal' Archon, the writers gave us a person we couldn't really connect to because she lacks any true flaws that we can sympathize with. But like you said, with her still carrying the Gnosis we might still get to see more of her story being told. I'm not sure if it will be enough, though.

It would have been much more interesting if her plan had failed in some way, forcing Capitano to step in. They didn't have to make the cost of following Capitano's plan what it was- they should have tweaked it in some way Imo Mavuika has a bit of a control issue. She decided that she would be the one to face the abyss 500 years later when her time should have been long over, and that they were going to pull it off through a harebrained and risky scheme. But she is never punished by the narrative for it and it doesn't really fit into the rest of her schemes. Spoilers Xbalanque appeared for all pf 10 minutes and was waaaay better characterized (another example of Hoyo nuking any possibility of another male character join the natlan cast I noticed) and I would have pulled for him if he had been set up to be a playable unit

They cpuld have executed the part where Mavuika went off to die andt Traveller goes to sign autographs so much better than they did (I wouldn't have chosen this story route anyways, and would have made the issue of Mavuika's death much more imminent). Having it clear that she pushed Traveller into signing autographs to out manoeuvre them so they can't interfere with her scheduled death and having traveller aware of that and trying to extricate himself from the celebration would have made more much more sense to me They did it to pad the runtime of the quest and I didn't appreciate it at all tbh. Actually, a lot of the quest was padding. This story felt very much like the regular writers were replaced with a completely new team with very little experience. I did not appreciate it

Ayyyyy!!! Mavuika jumped the shark... er... Koholasaurus (Happy Days reference. Fonzie jumped a shark with a motorcycle, after that the show's ratings tanked.)

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It's so ironic that Mavuika feels less human than any archons we know. I feel like Hoyo spent too much time designing her motorbike and forgot to write the character.

I can't help but think that Mavuika is the complete opposite of Dehya. Dehya has interesting personality but weak in-game kit, so many people hate her. Meanwhile, Mavuika has bland character, but powercreep in both gameplay and world exploration, so people *will* pull for her.

What made me kinda mad is gatekeeping pyro traveler, showing a kinda op moveset in the fight bc come on dude im launching flying fire slashes at a dragon its sick, only for me to see all the cool stuff about the kit was story exclusive and pyro traveler is complete ass. Like i fr thought the mini fire slashes would be the skill, and the big one would be something like getting max nightsoul to trigger a special burst or smth.

Natlan's existence ruins genshin for me, with mavuika being a huge cherry on the top.

I'm not a fan of her outfit or bike tbh. If she had one of her trailer outfits (the white one in particular was good) and didn't use a motorcycle (have her fight more like she did in cutscenes) and maybe the movement gimmick could be some cool fire dragon or something, then I would have gotten her (bad writing aside). That said the fact she's another Pyro dps is also an odd choice imo. We really needed a better limited 5 star Pyro Support/off field DPS than she is imo and it's weird that playing her on field is just better than using her as a support in like 99% of cases. Wouldn't be a deal breaker if I liked her design and playstyle but it's still weird. They should have made more limited 5 star Pyro Supports and healers by now.

war arc was pulled off so poorly, we were in a balloon watching a few npcs fight purple monsters and this is supposed to be "war" the most intense feeling part was seeing what was going on in the map. We are supposed to care about a few npcs that died?

Yeah, This is second least favorite Archon quest by far. The only characters I was invested in are Kachina and Capitano. Other than that, I don't really care about anyone including the Archon. In terms of fight scenes, This is definitely the best. Overall, I do agree with most of the points you presented.

Reading some of the comments here made me realise a lot of people seem to dislike Natlan. I get it, like the theme is all over the place but i still find natlan very beautiful and has someof the best soundtracks in genshin. The story was alright (certainly better than inazuma and everything before then) but it was a very enjoyable, turn ur brain off story. Kind of refreshing after all the depression and melancholy from sumeru and fontaine.

I need. Lore. More. Lore. Hoyoverse better add more quests in Natlan.

17:30 or imagine if Mavuika sister wanted to see her so much that she started to work with the Abyss. Just imagine if we needed to fight Mavika's sister at the end.

LOL, I know the feeling. Wanted Candace, got Cyno. >_>

I think the difference people ain't catching on is that Mavuika is unlike the previous archons, NOT at the start of a new chapter in her life but at the ending, she seems perfect because this is the tail end of her big adventure, all her development happened mainly 500 years ago and in the years since she appeared from the fire. Meanwhile, we catch Venti at the beginning of him resuming stuff from his last nap, Zhongli at the beginning of his life as a "mortal", Ei at the beginning of her life after he 500 year long grief, Nahida at the true beginning of her life as someone free and Furina at the end of her mission but the beginning of her life as normal human both caused by us we feel more connection to them because the player character was the direct catalyst of many of these events, while in Natlan we are only here for the tail end of their struggle, it's not really about us we just came to help, but we probably didn't cause that big of a difference here. Mavuika's story reminds me of the realist hero during their own war arc, when someone questioned why he acted so unaffected and he realized he was using the mask of a king, so he used all his knowledge to act as he thought a king should and lost himself in the act until it was pointed out to him. To me that's the case with Mavuika and now that the fight with the abyss is done and they probably have to fight against other humans for the first time the mask of a leader will fall because that was a shield that only worked against the abyss that could use their weakness against them, humans are uniquely good at using their enemies strengths against them. Of course this is just copium its up to HYV to take their story in whatver directions feels right, I also didn't like the bike and only pulled because she has aoe off field pyro application that I could use for my Kinich.

I confess, that's why I like HSR's character design more. There are so many different worlds and cultures that they can just pull out of thin air, it makes total sense that you have a literal knight in shining armor like Argenti standing next to the Japanese-inspired dressings of Sparkle's stage attire in a futuristic spaceship operated by a super genius robot doll that dresses in gothic lolita-style clothing. There's legitimately no limit to what you can design, because the game's setting makes it entirely viable to have an out-of-place character standing in an environment that doesn't match them at all.

Overall Natlan was a wash for me. The region was really boring, the roster of characters uninteresting, and the story pretty lame. The new more emotive characters are at odds with the rest of the game and the new traversal and visions mechanics, particularly mavuika's are nonsensical and immersion breaking.

Spoiler warning!!!! The only thing I don’t understand is why the Lord of Death had to take Capitano’s life. Like the Lord of Death could have said no to the paradox and just taken Mavuika’s life anyway

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yess!! since she came out and i finished the quests i had a strange feeling, like she’s a character that i’m supposed to like and root for and everyone online seems to love her, but i just didn’t get it and couldn’t understand why. you summarized my feelings perfectly, she’s just too flawless, her gameplay is awful and she doesn’t even look like a genshin character. her needing other nathan characters makes it even worse, as i don’t have neither citlali nor xilonen, i don’t want to be forced to use natlan teams. i pulled for her because i want all archons, but she’s my least favorite so far.

Furina isn't the archon... Why can no one see that nuevillette is the god!

I found it so hard to complete her story quest. It was just so boring

when it comes to lantern rite or anything related to liyue, hoyoverse won't miss their mark 🙃shows how biased they are... also funny that CNY coming soon and many forget the atrocity that is mauvika/citlali banner, which will be replaced by knave/clorinde banner, with lots of rewards which should have been used during pyro archon debut but yeah... P.S. hope they faced charges on FTC by the US... P.S.S. favorite event is windblume cause it's old home... till they ruined my ex...

I think from 4.0 to 4.6 was peak genshin imo

this was such a excellent analysis, thank you

17:00 why?

I agree, everything went downhill after this 😢

I think i left with so much expectation from fontaine and when it's not met my expectation i felt underwhelmed 😮

AGREE 100%

I have spent a total of 250+ of my saved up wishes on both banners that Kachina has appeared on. I now have a c1 Kachina and that includes the one we got for free

Anyone know what ever happened to the children of Murata?

The only thing I don’t enjoy from the new maps nowadays is that it’s too easy to clear them! There aren’t many extra secrets spread throughout every little corner like it did in Liyue and Sumeru. I hope this is something other people notice too ‘cause the most important aspect of the game for me is exploration and finding a lot of extras even after 100% the area. That’s the only thing that disappointed me the most from Chenyu Valley. I remember when Hoyo made us search for 76 Aranaras and honestly that’s the type of challenge I most enjoy from an exploration game…