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Watched this for the comedy bits and wasn't disappointed

Queen Madonna in 1985

krank the knob, man!

I worked on that system. Mastering, programming, duplicating, the lot. We developed our own Mastering Suite, with Philips help. Ran on MS-DOS. Still got the Hard Drive & a copy of every disc I ever worked on. Customers still had it up till about 2006

The side panels were usually just veneer timber, easy DIY project.

Glad i found your channel, funny stuff.

You are an interest, but please leave the ''Comedy'' to the likes of Stephen Fry.

It sounds about the same as background music at most of the places i have been too

Imagine working in Woolies listening to 90s house!!! Lol. BTW... ANOTHER GREAT AND ENTERTAINING VIDEO. Thank you.

Good teaser video. If that was the Thomson Sky+HD box at the end. I still think with the height capacity modified power supply. They were more relatable than the Amstrad boxes that replaced them.

Very irritating presentation, takes 5m to get going.

You get a like and a sub for the intro alone :) The rest can't be bad after that! _edit_: Great script, brilliant! And your taste is exquisit. More, you cheeky brit, more! The ADPCM version sounded much better than I expected. I thought a 22Khz mono 8 bit signal, a la .mod samples (but long ;), and some "undocumented" magic for it in the player.

Great video! Despite my university education I know how to open a box so you can lose that, but the annoying background music is too loud, I'm more interested in your prattle than music.

Glad I watched to the end before picking up the keyboard... was going to ask about the field/frame and regular/hi-band switches on the front. Does it really just jitter the head(s?) back and forth between tracks? Or maybe swapping sides (though you'd be restricted to recording full-frame images with even-track alignment in that case, though it'd mean it would only need 25 total tracks not 50)... I'd have thought it more efficient to have a pair of heads next to each other so it could read two of them at once and seamlessly flick back and forth electronically. The extra noise in frame mode is quite unexpected... The Hi-band simply being SVHS style is a disappointment too, I thought maybe there would be a lower rez / longplay type mode when you turned that off, so it would be able to fit a full-frame image on a single track (spinning at half speed) at the expense of less horizontal sharpness. Which would be an OK compromise on some screens given how big the dot pitch could sometimes be, or indeed probably make no difference to the horizontal rez at all if you were working in pure monochrome with a B/W screen. Maybe even do 100 field-based images (with the reduced horizontal clarity making it a bit like a VCD, or a longplay NTSC tape) by putting two to a track with a small framebuffer (75 kilopixel would have been a lot more achievable than 300kp at the time... only need like 256KB, less if you accept worse colour depth). Though, maybe the noise is just the deck is a bit worn out and needs some cleaning and servicing?

My comment will probably get buried, but I don't care so here it is anyway! 😄 I have a 1997 Technics RS-AZ7 cassette deck in my component system purchased as an ex-display refurb from Panasonic UK in 2017. It looks so much like yours, I thought it was the same model at first. I also have a 2002 Philips CDR-778 dual-well audio-CD recorder in my system, but because it needs those "CD-R Digital Audio" or "For Music" discs to record on, it's far more useful as a double CD player. Anyway, I was genuinely surprised to see that your player was made in Japan. I've only known Philips to make things in Holland, Germany or China. My CD recorder was made in Holland. The cassette deck was made in Japan, as is our 1997 MiniDisc deck from Pioneer. Our 2020 Yamaha amplifier and 2007 Denon CD player are made somewhere in Asia - I think are made in Malaysia. I've never seen any of your videos before but, after this one, I'm subscribed! Not strictly because of the topic, but just the way you've presented this video suits my tastes perfectly. So even if part two takes months to arrive, I don't care, I think I will be suitably entertained and informed. Finally, I've always had an interest in VCD ever since I first heard of it in 1995. But nobody on UA-cam has attempted to tell the story behind the format. Everyone just says "It's sub-VHS quality, it was big in Asia for a while" and then they move on.

MOMT sounds familiar but I thought it was a lot older than 2 years...

An 8 hour CD sure sounds great on paper but in reality there's a significant difference in sound quality between 4 bits and 16 bits.

Great topic, nice video! 🙂bit hard to understand for my US-English trained German ears. But I Got It!!! 🙂See you next time!

Instant sub. Good info, great humour, and top notch production quality :) Also they were still using these things into the 2000s (a couple years before you were at Woolies from the sound of it), bar I worked at had one, and ONLY ONE DISC. ...In fact I'm not convinced it wasn't a knockoff that only ran for four hours (or maybe only 2x the length of a normal CD by using each channel separately?) because it definitely played each song more than once a shift... I still can't listen to "Warning" or the other songs that were on it without feeling irrationally annoyed. I guess Sony and Philips must have still been bessie mates when the Playstation came along then seeing as they were more than happy to put a XA format decoder into the console. BTW I think the reason for the funky sample rate is that it gets 2x the play time of regular CD when encoded as 12-bit PCM stereo or something? So it's simpler to decode but can still save space on the disc whilst sounding basically identical though typical crappy TV speakers (likewise, ADPCM does have some noticeable noise in quieter sections, but it's no worse than cassette and won't ever be noticeable over a shop or bar PA or on an early 90s telly where it'll be drowned out by line noise and 15.6kHz transformer whistle anyway). ...or was it that it's what you get when using CDROM style sectors rather than CDDA ones, so audio can be played back from a PSX format data disc running at 1x speed? Erm. I get 38.4kHz when doing that conversion, but maybe I got it wrong (2048 x 44.1/37.8 doesn't work right either, so maybe it doesn't quite use regular CD sector size?)... Used to know how it works. Tried to google and the answers look like they'd need way too much digging for an offhand youtube comment. In any case I think it also got used alongside some primitive not-quite-MPEG VCD-ish video compression for the Playstation's ratty FMV, half the bits going to video and half to audio at 2x speed, or 3:1 if they used mono sound instead (50/50 at 1x... etc), making the maths and demuxing simpler (maybe using actual ADPCM would have put too much overall load on the machine to maintain even the usual 12.5/15fps, without giving a meaningful uplift to bitrate over what was already achieved... there were still the options of halving the sample rate and/or using 8-bit after all and that seems to be the route that pre-MPEG PC game FMV went down)

A background music format that Techmoan has missed? Great find!

You must be chillijoncarnes brother surely

I used to fit up to 15 hours of stereo music on CD-R discs for the car back in the early 2000s by encoding them with the LAME MP3 encoder in VBR at -V6. They played back fine on my Alpine head unit and gave a 17kHz bandwidth. Nowhere near CD quality obviously, but still far better than the previous cassette player I had in the car. Each disc was the equivalent of up to ten C90 cassettes, so they were a lot easier to store in the car too.

The stuff I love to watch on here would be classed a waste of time by most people.... for me, it's essential daily viewing!! Very happy and proud to have subscribed to you, and look forward to your next "waste of time" - which will be very much appreciated by all of us like minded subscribers! :)

Fun little thing! I suspected at the top it was going to be compressed audio, but I was expecting Musicam aka MP2, not ADPCM! Looking forward to upcoming videos about Video 2000 et al. I've seen that one described as third place in a two-horse war. Interesting format, though!

Great to see a UA-camr wearing a poppy 👏 good video too. Hermes , uugh the worst delivery company. And the fu and furb song nod made my day!

12:27 “in all good consciousnesses” made me laugh out loud, until I wondered whether it might not have been intentional?

Moist

Simply put - well done. Fast, Funny and to the point. Keep up the great pacing. Looking for that CDI? Hit the RetroCollective / RMC-The Cave museum at Belvedere Mill in Chalford. (Although i have a feeling you've already visited. Also good place for getting repair hints on your existing BGM unit.) -73

In 1994/95 after I graduated from college, I worked for a little company called Codim in Eindhoven, The Netherlands, and they produced CD-i software. We worked with and for Philips a lot and one of the things we did was create the CD's for Philips Background Music (BGM) Services. And as it happens, I was closely involved with BGM in the time that I worked there. It's still one of my most favorite subjects related to CD-i. The way I understand it, someone at Philips BGM would record a bunch of music onto a 4 track reel-to-reel recorder from whatever source they had, in mono. Most (if not all) of the music was owned by Philips' record companies such as Polygram: That way they wouldn't have to pay someone else for the copyright licenses. They would record the tapes in mono, one track at a time. Then they would copy the reel-to-reel tapes to a DAT tape, in stereo: the left and right track would each have separate music. At Codim, we would receive a box (or was it two boxes?) of 10 DAT tapes every month, with usually the most boring music you could think of. There were exceptions: every 3 months or so there would be a production with light pop music but unfortunately those were always 4-hour discs instead of the usual 8 hours. We had a Compaq Deskpro PC with (if I remember correctly) a 486 processor at 33 or 40 MHz (one of the fastest PCs of the late 1980s), that was dedicated to producing BGM CD's. It had an ISA plugin card by Sony that made it possible to record music to a very big (1GB? 2GB?) SCSI hard disk that was in the machine, formatted in ADPCM. My predecessor had written some software under MS-DOS to go through the steps of transferring two DAT tapes (in real time, so that took 4 hours for 2 tapes of 120 minutes each), split up the files between the left and right channels, merge 8 mono files together again into one giant (600MB+) file, and play the files to verify (and if necessary, make corrections to) the timing information that we got on a floppy disk. Most of this could happen unattended but verifying the timing information was tedious. We then used our usual CD-i formatting software by MicroWare to combine the music files, the text file with timing information and the CD-i application (also written by my predecessor) into a disc image. It took about a day to produce a single BGM disc, a week for the entire production run for the month. We would put the image file of each disc on an Exabyte backup tape which we would send off to Germany to press a couple hundred CD's from each of them, according to what Philips BGM had ordered. They kept the production cost low by not printing anything on the CD's and packaging the CD's in envelopes instead of jewel cases. The boxes of CDs and DAT tapes (and the floppy disk with information) went back to Philips BGM who would take care of distributing the discs to their customers and reusing the DAT tapes for the productions of the next month. Sometimes we at Codim would also burn our own disc if there was something that we might want to hear on days when there was nothing on the radio. We had plenty of CD-i players of course but we also had one of those BMS3000 players like you have. They were made by the parent company of Plextor, if I remember correctly. By the way that BGM player is not a stripped CD-i player like you kind of imply in the video; it's just a CD reader that understands "mode 2 form 2" sectors and decodes ADPCM as well as PCM (audio CD), and has a microcontroller that knows the BGM CD format. That, by the way is in a supplement of the Green Book, not in the Green Book itself. I've been searching for that supplement online in places like the Internet Archives but I haven't found it. It describes where a BGM player can find the files (audio as well as the text file with timing information). The specification says there must be a CD-i application on the disc but the application is ignored by the BGM player. Some discs have a very simply early CD-i application with just a Play and Stop button on the screen; the application that we included in the time that I worked on BGM showed a screen with all the songs and you could choose which one you wanted to play. BGM CD's are very rare, not only because they weren't for sale, only for rent, but also because Philips made them without labels so whenever someone runs into a big stack of them, they would probably not be recognized by many people, and if you put them in an audio CD player or a CD-ROM drive, they won't play because they use the CD-i format, not CD-ROM or Red Book Audio. Nevertheless, I think the HomeComputer Museum in Helmond, the Netherlands, may have some, because they have a big archive of artifacts that came from the Codim company. If you ever get your hands one more of them, I think you can use ISOBuster to rip them. And it shouldn't be too hard to reverse-engineer the format and make your own; you just have to put the various files in the exact right location in the disc image because otherwise the BGM player won't find them. I intended to do that while I was working there but I never got around to it...

Would it be possible to get a .bin/.cue image of this disc? 8 hours of vintage house sounds absolutely like my jam.

Interesting subject, but you should really cut down on the "whoosh cuts" and number of asides - especially as you say you're not going to waffle at the beginning.

In the day I had a CD207 top loader, total science fiction for me at the time 😅

I'd follow for the turns of phrases alone!

Brilliant Andy 👍

Subbed at 1.07k subs.

6:40 The comparison made my day. Subscribed!

Hmm i wonder why they dud 't just stick aac files on a cd and have dine with it, as it was going to be used in a dedicated player anyway an extra chip on the mp fir the decider wouldn'tbe that much hassele amd then the would probably get 8-10 h on on disc without the . Or dies thus devuce pre date aac and the like

I will save "2 cheeks of the same ass" as a great phrase.

Anyone with a TV-am mug is okay by me :) I'm glad to have found the channel.

Glad your video came across my feed. Hilarious! Hope your channel grows exponentially.

Neat find, now you can turn your house into a department store

V2000 my favourite video recorder.

😊 thanks for sharing the nerdy fun electronics!

Great video, and, WOW, thanks for the plug!!!! I'm usually part of the 50% who celebrates when they turn it off. But not always. I have some hearing loss and terrible tinnitus because someone blew out my eardrum in my left ear, but I can still clearly hear the difference between 16 and 4 bits. But I challenge anyone to notice the difference as background music in a store.

meh

your review really touch my guts.totally interesting mate.you own me now

Выходит, на диск влезает 1 секунда аналогового чересстрочного видео. Или иначе говоря, на каждой стороне по полсекунды чересстрочного видео (по 25 чересстрочных кадров на каждую сторону). Обе стороны диска дают полсекунды видео с прогрессивной развёрткой, то есть 25 полноценных кадров. * В Wiki так же указывается возможность цифровой записи на 800 КБайт. В аналоговой записи нет никаких пикселей, есть только строка с "бесконечной кривой" (без переходов в цвете, потому что нет цифрового ограничения по разрядности). Но для съёмки (сканирования) аналогового изображения используется матрица, которая использует набор светочувствительных точек (как пиксели). Аналоговая запись является ресурсоёмкой из-за отсутствия квантования (отсутствие деления на порции с чёткими ограниченными параметрами). Иначе говоря для аналоговой записи требуется высокое качество материала хранилища (носитель данных) / высокая плотность "зёрен" и высокая скорость.