Lifetime Value: The Customer Success Channel
Lifetime Value: The Customer Success Channel
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Churn: solved. | Ep. 176 | The Daily Standup
Episode 176: Rob & Dillon dig into how Hubspot solved churn, and they digress only a little bit in the process.
⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:14 - How HubSpot fixed retention
00:01:20 - Lessons from the HubSpot playbook
00:03:42 - The missing mention of customer success
00:06:59 - What stood out the most?
00:09:03 - Clawbacks and sales accountability
00:12:14 - The spectrum of customer fit
00:13:19 - The balance of sales and customer success
00:14:11 - Closing thoughts
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Dillon's LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dillonryoung
JP's LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jeanpierrefrost/
Rob's LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rob-zambito/
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Own your power | Lizz Harrell | The Daily Standup
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Episode 175: Lizz Harrell has one big tip for being your best CSM self. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:13 - Nostalgia and the BDR grind 00:03:06 - Do CSMs need sales skills? 00:05:02 - Bridging the gap between product and customer 00:06:28 - What's in it for customer success pros? 00:09:12 - Learning through customer relationships 00:10:50 - Sales fundamentals for CSMs 00:12:23 - An invi...
The participation award is not universal | Jason McLaurin | The Daily Standup
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Episode 174: Jason McLaurin has a storied career in business internationally, and he's sharing those stories now. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:25 - Culture shock in customer success 00:01:54 - The NPS paradox: global scoring quirks 00:03:29 - Living and learning: cross-cultural insights 00:05:11 - Language, interpretation, and cultural nuances 00:06:17 - Contrasting Japan and South Kor...
The video frontier | David Gunn | The Daily Standup
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Episode 173: David Gunn and SundaySky are re-engineering the way you engage with your customers. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:07 - The next frontier: video for engagement 0:02:50 - Solving the personalization-at-scale puzzle 00:04:11 - Learning from Spotify Wrapped 00:06:59 - AI-driven video avatars: the future is here 00:09:12 - Breaking the stigma around tech touch 00:10:45 - Who ben...
It's time to RETHINK your AI strategy | The Customer Success Hotline #8
Переглядів 69 годин тому
AI, AI, AI... Kristi and Stino get the allure. But there are some things to think about while you board the hype train. Subscribe to the Lifetime Value newsletter: lifetimevalue.link/subscribe ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:23 - The big question: AI or not to AI 00:02:24 - AI is making us lazy in CS 00:05:26 - Efficiency, not replacement 00:08:24 - Learning how to use the tool properly 0...
The total experience theory | Mary Poppen | The Daily Standup
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Episode 172: Mary Poppen knows you know about total rewards and customer experience, but have you heard of total experience? ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:31 - The power of total experience 00:02:07 - Silos that hinder organizational growth 00:03:30 - Harmony through shared alignment 00:06:19 - Marrying metrics to business outcomes 00:08:27 - The uphill battle of leadership buy-in 00:10...
Just pick one! | Ep. 171 | The Daily Standup
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171: New report just dropped! But, it's a little bit all over the place. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:17 - 2025 confidence index 00:02:34 - Resources vs. outcomes for CS teams 00:04:40 - Why CS struggles to prove ROI 00:06:32 - Personas, privilege, and disconnection 00:07:26 - Defining success through a shared lens 00:08:53 - Renewals: workload vs. customer value 00:12:31 - Churn lesso...
What's marketing got to do with it? | Ashna Patel | The Daily Standup
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Episode 170: Ashna Patel made a career pivot last year, and she has some valuable learnings after leaving customer success for marketing. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:26 - Defining customer success beyond post-sale 00:03:33 - Bridging customer success and marketing 00:05:09 - The fragile yet vital connection 00:08:39 - Breaking silos: marketing as a secret weapon 00:10:25 - Aligning pr...
The sentiment albatross | Emma Lampert | The Daily Standup
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Episode 169: Emma Lampert knows what wins when revenue and net promoter score get into a scrap. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:34 - Why customer feedback gets ignored 00:02:38 - NPS: A misunderstood metric 00:03:06 - The missing nuance in customer feedback 00:04:23 - Users vs. champions: Whose feedback matters? 00:06:29 - Vanity metrics vs. meaningful insights 00:08:46 - NPS: Just the st...
The problem with net promoter score | Boaz Maor | The Daily Standup
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The problem with net promoter score | Boaz Maor | The Daily Standup
The god metric | Tim Concannon | The Daily Standup
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The god metric | Tim Concannon | The Daily Standup
A violent restructuring | Ep. 166 | The Daily Standup
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A violent restructuring | Ep. 166 | The Daily Standup
The humanity | Jasmine Reynolds | The Daily Standup
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The humanity | Jasmine Reynolds | The Daily Standup
Storytime | Nik Mijic | The Daily Standup
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Storytime | Nik Mijic | The Daily Standup
Getting scrappy | Shawn Stiffler | The Daily Standup
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Horse 👉 water | Brittany Yandura | The Daily Standup
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Product communities: why and when | Ep. 161 | The Daily Standup
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Value value value | Keishla Ceaser-Jones | The Daily Standup
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Digital empathy | Samuel Cummings | The Daily Standup
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Digital empathy | Samuel Cummings | The Daily Standup
When acquisitions strike | Adreon Morgan | The Daily Standup
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Care bears | Emily Garza | The Daily Standup
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The promotion trap | Ep. 156 | The Daily Standup
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The doorman fallacy | Andrew Marks | The Daily Standup
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The doorman fallacy | Andrew Marks | The Daily Standup
Ghost in the machine | Ty Raia | The Daily Standup
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Ghost in the machine | Ty Raia | The Daily Standup
The CS futurist | Andy Magnusson | The Daily Standup
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The CS futurist | Andy Magnusson | The Daily Standup
Funny for money | Duane Hutchison | The Daily Standup
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Get out the bushes | Laura Condy | The Daily Standup
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Rediscover your CREATIVITY | The Customer Success Hotline #6
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Go read a book | Ep. 149 | The Daily Standup
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Go read a book | Ep. 149 | The Daily Standup

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @duanehutchison9155
    @duanehutchison9155 3 дні тому

    This episode is a sleeper. It’s so good because you guys have different takes on this topic.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue День тому

      Good to know you liked it. It felt all over the place.

  • @DavidGunn-f1i
    @DavidGunn-f1i 3 дні тому

    this was great guys, thanks for having me!

  • @duanehutchison9155
    @duanehutchison9155 4 дні тому

    I think he misunderstands what NRR is. He says it should be ARR and then describes NRR. Seemed odd to me. Rob is exactly right here. Own a number or become a number. NRR is the NorthStar metric here because it aligns company goals with personal goals. Everything else rolls up under that umbrella.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 дні тому

      Agreed, the definitions went back and forth but the spirit was right!

  • @duanehutchison9155
    @duanehutchison9155 4 дні тому

    My knee jerk reaction on this was that he needs to re-write his KPIs to have a much larger go get in his variable compensation. That way he can sell it “I only win when the company wins.” It’s a much easier sell as long as he ties it to revenue.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 дні тому

      It all comes back to revenue, doesn't it?

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 7 днів тому

    "We've got no Resources! No Budget! Our Pets Heads are Falling Off!" 🦜

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 7 днів тому

    This episode has everything. I'm franctically watching and taking notes like a White House Press Correspondent. How can these guys give such good insights when one of them is wearing a plastic crown and the other has a sweater and glasses looking like James Lipton on Inside the Actors Studio??? And JP if you are going through something, hope you are able to touch some grass soon! 💓

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 7 днів тому

      All over the place!

    • @robzambito135
      @robzambito135 7 днів тому

      That thing is metal my friend! 😂Royalty don’t play Appreciate you @lauracondy1075

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 14 днів тому

    I worry if this guy went to his company and asked for a raise he may only come back with a free subscription to headspace 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 17 днів тому

    Back to the future reference FTW!!! ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 17 днів тому

      Dillon and JP are miserable excuses for millennials.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 17 днів тому

    Being scrappy = maintaining several different email addresses to use constantly with softwares that allow free trials

  • @Justin_Taylor
    @Justin_Taylor 29 днів тому

    I’d heard of it

  • @edpowers80525
    @edpowers80525 29 днів тому

    Andrew Marks-big “get” there, guys! Love the doorman fallacy.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    Man, JD Salinger, now John Steinbeck. Is TDSU sponsored by great American Authors? Arthur Miller pissed hes not got his shout out yet.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    D- WAYNE bringing the HEAT ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥 Alright, I agree with the Entitlement thing and sometimes its headcount. In companies Ive worked for CS outnumbers other departments usually since they were cheaper than other roles to hire. The argument of "CS should do that because they have more people on their team" is a lazy but valid excuse. Also thank you Rob for joining all the webinars so we dont have to!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      People are saying we should do the work bc there’s more of us?! With that logic, why not have BDRs run my QBRs?

    • @lauracondy1075
      @lauracondy1075 28 днів тому

      @@lifetimevalue THATS A LAUGH

  • @erikuvp
    @erikuvp Місяць тому

    Loveee this!! And I couldn’t agree more!!!

  • @edpowers80525
    @edpowers80525 Місяць тому

    Great analysis, guys. The Bain study has some good observations, but as you note, it also contains a number of logical holes and makes unsupported claims. It should be taken with a grain of salt.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      It's a good thing we're all on the same side, right?

  • @rubbersidedown7041
    @rubbersidedown7041 Місяць тому

    The opposite is true. You do a follow-up email with a hiring manager after an interview where they've reassured you that you're in the top group of candidates, and they will get back to you, but they can't bother to spend five minutes writing a quick reply. I'm slammed in my job. I still take the time to communicate with everyone in the office and our clients by whatever means. I detest rude behavior.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      No matter the direction, ignoring someone's humanity is no good

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    Great episode! Richard's sustained eye contact is a lethal. Oh man.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      Mess with Richard, mess with LTV.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    ugh. Such a good episode. Wish I could anonymously send it to crappy leaders I have had in the past!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      DM us and we’ll send it for you. Your personal nastygram

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    NGL...at the start of this episode I had an eyeroll thinking it was gonna be a topic about being extremely PC in our comms, but you all made some great points and strategies. Definitely made me think about the importance of language in a totally new way. I was also scolded by the manager of a vegan restaurant I worked at for using the "killing two birds with one stone" analogy.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      Same here, but understanding how your words get taken, both consciously and subconsciously, is a secret ... *whispers* what's a PC way to say weapon?

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    JD Salinger is STOKED he got a shout out on a Customer Success Podcast! ua-cam.com/video/F1hUAmCBDSw/v-deo.html

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    Awesome episode. The topic makes me think about an athlete who can run fast, throw hard and jump high but they have never played the game of football. If this athlete was brought on by a coach and told on their first day to "figure it out!" 😆😆 that team would lose so many games! You gotta onboard! You gotta set them up for success with a good foundation and guidance to help the team win. If you don't wanna go with a football analogy, the movie Cool Runnings also applies.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    I had a lot of chuckles!! 🤣🤣 I bring my company value through Effin' and Jeffin' with customers!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      Effin' and Jeffin'? Say more.

    • @lauracondy1075
      @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

      @@lifetimevalue It's a british term for f*cking around (my favorite new term)

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

    Make it fun! It's all theatre! F*cking Smile! so so true!!...I am a PEOPLEY PEOPLE person and I stuck out like a sore thumb with my other Onboarding Specialists at my last org. I think we need way more salesy energetic implementation types and less type-A project manager types in onboarding and implementation! Welll maybe a healthy combo of both...

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      SMILE... AND LIKE IT! Personality and work style can be different things, too! You've got to find people who work AND act like you and your customers need them to.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    Uh oh! I wanna know why Rob thinks NPS scores are in the dog house in the CS world! Ive been talking up NPS score a lot in job interviews 😵‍💫😵‍💫

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue Місяць тому

      We wouldn't dare to pretend we know what Rob's thinking, but NPS is OFTEN used as a crutch when it is only one small data point about a customer's journey and experience. It's usually a necessary metric when talking to investors, but gets misconstrued more often than it doesn't.

    • @lauracondy1075
      @lauracondy1075 Місяць тому

      @@lifetimevalue awesome, thank you :: The More You Know Star::

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    GRANDMA FARTED: The Fundamentals of CS... LOL @ JP 😆😆

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    FTR Rob & JP: The Parody of Bring it On was Not Another Teen Movie and Good Charlotte made a cameo as the Prom Band 😆😆 Knowledge about Customer Success and 90s movies? IT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT-EN!

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    That's awesome. I would LOVE to have a 10-99 CS position...until Tax Season 😭😭

  • @Julien-g9s
    @Julien-g9s 2 місяці тому

    Thanks guys! Once again, super insightful!

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    JP helping the Wicked Marketing algo with "Wizard of Oz" ism 🪄🪄

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 2 місяці тому

      He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    🎶 She seems to have a digital touch yeahh 🎶 (sung ala Phil Collins)

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 2 місяці тому

      But not until you feel the pain yeahhh

  • @jrkoosh
    @jrkoosh 2 місяці тому

    I like shackets

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    JP as a CSM: "It sounds like you want to use the product the way you WANT to, but you should intend to use it this way." JP's Customer: "Don't turn my brisket into bologna."

  • @edpowers80525
    @edpowers80525 2 місяці тому

    Great perspective. Companies must still “nail it, THEN scale it” when it comes to Customer Success.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 2 місяці тому

    Love Dillon's point about Two Buckets 🪣: One with Product Improvements from Customers yet to be acquired and Another with Product Improvements from Existing Customers. Then he minimized it by saying "But that's not even my actual point" ...😆Also love the point of "Get the customers to adopt the product in the way the Product Team intended" but think it falls in line with...how well does Sales Sell to the ICP... Lastly...I have to say Ive been able to avoid paying and enrolling in any sort Customer Success college course JUST BY WATCHING THE DAILY STAND UP 🎓✨

  • @robzambito135
    @robzambito135 2 місяці тому

    This intro 🤣

  • @fudobakari
    @fudobakari 3 місяці тому

    I always thought the main blocker was erectial dysfunction.

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 3 місяці тому

    Love this ep!!!!! I ALSO recently asked a CEO if they would consider changing the name a role I applied to a Customer Experience Role. Politely disagree with Dillon about it just being words and sematics, agree with JP that CX is broader. Agree with Rob that we could be doing ourselves a disservice and to add to that; When the title Customer Success Manager is actually customer facing, I think it can hinder more than help. Does a customer see the title Customer Success Manager and think - oh they only care about upselling me!🙄 -or- they are supposed to help me succeed at all costs!🤬 I prefer the name Customer Experience way better cuz it helps set the customer expectations more fairly. And most Saas companies Ive worked with consider Customer Experience the umbrella that includes Customer Success, Customer Support and Onboarding departments. If I'm at an early stage start up and plan on taking on all of those roles, I would want to be called Customer Experience Manager ✨

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 3 місяці тому

    I just brought up the Churn Zero Monsters in a job interview! They are so memorable 👹 and is DJ Bobby Z wearing a uniform jersey from Foot Locker?

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      Not a referee uniform - just one of the three shirts RJAZ owns!

  • @robzambito135
    @robzambito135 3 місяці тому

    This intro 🤣🤣

    • @lauracondy1075
      @lauracondy1075 3 місяці тому

      Rob...hate to break it to you but CNBC guru Marcus Lemonis already had 3 P's for Business Success: People, Process, Product. The Letter P working over time between his and yours 😄

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      OH SNAP

  • @RichardBlank
    @RichardBlank 3 місяці тому

    Thank you Gents. Solid interview.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      The pleasure was ours, Richard!

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 3 місяці тому

    WELP, this episode had me googling a lot of buzzwords and terms, but hey thats progress for me. Thanks guys!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      Which ones? We can try to catch ourselves next time!

    • @lauracondy1075
      @lauracondy1075 3 місяці тому

      @@lifetimevalue MEDDPICC or as captioning wanted to interpret it "MedPig" also Flywheel was new to me..def seen one before but never new the term!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      @@lauracondy1075 Ahhh, the ol' Med Pig.

  • @robzambito135
    @robzambito135 3 місяці тому

    It was a past participle for the record

  • @donna3311
    @donna3311 3 місяці тому

    I LOVE the tie-in at the end to our personal lives. I was thinking the same thing.

  • @RyanDeal-i4u
    @RyanDeal-i4u 3 місяці тому

    That's one handsome guy!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 3 місяці тому

      Do you mean JP? We agree!

    • @RyanDeal-i4u
      @RyanDeal-i4u 3 місяці тому

      @@lifetimevalue Of course I'm talking about JP! Who else?

  • @lauracondy1075
    @lauracondy1075 4 місяці тому

    I feel called out for my love of crystals

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 4 місяці тому

      If it's good enough for Aaron Rodgers, it's good enough for you!

  • @digitalcustomersuccesspodcast
    @digitalcustomersuccesspodcast 4 місяці тому

    Loving the hotline!!!! Keep em coming.

  • @Julien-g9s
    @Julien-g9s 4 місяці тому

    Nice and fun one, loved it! Be optimistic Dillon, it's good for you :)

  • @duanehutchison9155
    @duanehutchison9155 4 місяці тому

    This was really good. The only thing I would add was something I heard not long ago. If you are not sure what to bring to the table (because numbers are not available or you are still more junior) ask this question. What do you need me to do, or information that I need to bring to light, for it to be a no brainer to get an invite to the table. You can ask this of your leader, a mentor, a peer, or just yourself and then get to work.

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 4 місяці тому

      Right - if you haven't been at the table before, it can be difficult to know what sort of information or messaging resonates. Good call-out!

  • @edpowers80525
    @edpowers80525 4 місяці тому

    Great discussion. You guys might be interested in reading “The Misinformation Age” by Calin O’Connor and James Owen Weatherall. It’s a fascinating exploration of everything you talked about.

  • @PriscilaFletcher
    @PriscilaFletcher 4 місяці тому

    LOVE this episode! Cinthia is an amazing leader!

    • @lifetimevalue
      @lifetimevalue 4 місяці тому

      We can tell by the way she carried herself in this ep!