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TheHistoryWeasel
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I upload content on military history. My specialties are Scottish Jacobite history and North American frontier history. But I have also made a good series on Boer Wars.
How Historically Accurately is the Portrayal of 'Pike and Shot' Warfare in Movies?
The movies I review for historical accuracy in this video are 'Cromwell', 'With Fire and Sword' and 'Alatriste', all set in the 17th century with battle scenes displaying pike and shot tactics.
‘Pike and Shot’ warfare was mainly used during the 17th century. Before the invention of bayonets, musketeers were vulnerable to attack, so needed pikemen to protect them against cavalry. Harquebusiers, lightly-armoured cavalry armed with pistols and carbines, along with heavily-armoured cuirassiers, also played an important role on the battlefields of the 1600s.
‘Pike and Shot’ warfare was mainly used during the 17th century. Before the invention of bayonets, musketeers were vulnerable to attack, so needed pikemen to protect them against cavalry. Harquebusiers, lightly-armoured cavalry armed with pistols and carbines, along with heavily-armoured cuirassiers, also played an important role on the battlefields of the 1600s.
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The Corunna Campaign - The "Dunkirk" of the Napoleonic Wars (2 part documentary)
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From a hellish winter march through the snow-swept mountains of Galicia to a bloody, back and forth battle at Corunna, this is a gripping story of endurance and bravery which you will want to hear. Part 1 is on the Retreat to Corunna and Part 2 is on the Battle of Corunna. This all took place during the Peninsular War; the Iberian theatre of the Napoleonic Wars.
The Jacobite Army of 1745 - Highland & Lowland levies, French troops, Scotch hussars and artillery
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In this video, I analyse the composition of the Jacobite army in 1745 and 1746, from the clan regiments to Bagot's Scotch Hussars, in order to reveal the strengths and weaknesses of each component: infantry, cavalry and artillery. The idea of a "Jacobite" having to be a Catholic Highlander wielding a broadsword is inaccurate. The Jacobite army of Charles Edward Stuart was comprised of militias ...
‘Cromwell’ (1970) - How historically accurate is the Battle of Edgehill scene?
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The English Civil War in the 1640s pitted the Parliamentarians (“Roundheads”) and Scottish Covenanters against the Royalists (“Cavaliers”). It was part of the ‘Wars of the Three Kingdoms’ which spanned across the entirety of the British Isles, ultimately resulting in a Parliamentarian victory and the establishment of Cromwell’s short-lived commonwealth. ‘Pike and Shot’ warfare was mainly used d...
'Cromwell' (1970) - How historically accurate is the Battle of Naseby scene?
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The English Civil War in the 1640s pitted the Parliamentarians (“Roundheads”) and Scottish Covenanters against the Royalists (“Cavaliers”). It was part of the ‘Wars of the Three Kingdoms’ which spanned across the entirety of the British Isles, ultimately resulting in a Parliamentarian victory and the establishment of Cromwell’s short-lived commonwealth. ‘Pike and Shot’ warfare was mainly used d...
The Dark Truth of the Highland Clans - Brutal Feuds & Battles Which You've Never Heard of...
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Everyone's heard of the Glencoe Massacre and Culloden, but how about the Battle of the Spoiling Dyke? This video explores three of the most brutal and obscure Scottish clan battles that you may have never heard of before. Ever since the Victorian Era, Scotland's Highland clans have been romanticised... well, you won't find anything romantic about the clans in this video.
Canada's Fur Trade - The Founding of the Hudson's Bay Company
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This is a short documentary which covers the early days of the fur trade in Canada and the events leading up to the creation of the Hudson’s Bay Company; perhaps one of the most influential commercial enterprises in world history. Part 1 covers the French fur trade and the rag-tag “coureur de bois” (independent fur traders who defied colonial authorities and established their one relationships ...
Is ‘Culloden’ (1964) Historical Fact or Political Propaganda?
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This video breaks down the 1964 docu-drama ‘Culloden’ into its accurate and inaccurate parts, before giving my overall judgement on its educational value. The Battle of Culloden was the last battle fought on British soil, taking place on a moor near Inverness in April 1746. It was a crushing defeat for the Jacobites, with 1,500 to 2,000 being killed or wounded. However, it was the aftermath of ...
Folk Songs of the Jacobite Rebellion - Propaganda of the Stuart Cause
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My top 5 favourite Jacobite songs.
The Jacobite Rising You've Never Heard of... NOT Scotland vs England
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The origins of Jacobitism predate 1745 and Bonnie Prince Charlie's famous rising by several decades. Far from being Scotland vs England, the first Jacobite rising in 1689 saw Scottish and Irish Jacobite rebels fight against troops of the Scottish government. The Battle of Killiecranki was one of the bloodiest battles in the history of the Scottish Jacobite Risings. This video covers the whole 1...
An Insultingly Inaccurate Portrayal of Culloden - 'Outlander' - Disrespecting History
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The Battle of Culloden (1746) was the last battle fought on British soil and saw the Jacobite Risings come to a bloody end on a moor near Inverness. Summary of the battle: The Jacobites’ charge was bogged down and only some of the Highlanders collided with the government line. Canister shot and musket fire slaughtered many of the charging Jacobites. A small number of Jacobites broke through the...
The Boer Wars - Redcoat to Khaki (Part 3: Scorched Earth and Barbed Wire)
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Part 3 of my Boer Wars documentary covers the later stages of the 2nd Boer War; including the relief of Kimberley, Ladysmith and Mafeking, guerrilla warfare following the capture of Pretoria, and controversial British tactics used to bring the war to an end.
Culloden through the Eyes of a Redcoat - Facing the Highland Charge (1746)
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Introduction: In 1746, the last battle ever fought on British soil took place on Culloden Moor, near Inverness, in the Scottish Highlands. This is a descriptive account of the Battle of Culloden told from the perspective of the government army, which ultimately defeated the Jacobites. The footage is from the docu-drama "Culloden" (1964). Government Order of Battle (from wikipedia): Captain-Gene...
The Boer Wars - Redcoat to Khaki (Part 2: Gold and Mauser Rifles)
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Part 2 of my Boer Wars documentary covers the first stage of the 2nd Boer War; including the causes behind its outbreak, the main battles and the tactics employed by both sides. Part 3 will be coming out soon... 'The History Chap' and 'Redcoat History' UA-cam channels proved most helpful for my research of this video and have excellent content on the Boer Wars. So, I recommend you check out the...
The Boer Wars - Redcoat to Khaki (Part 1: The British Empire Humbled by Farm Boys)
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The Boer Wars - Redcoat to Khaki (Part 1: The British Empire Humbled by Farm Boys)
LEGO Stopmotion - Hitler's Last Offensive (Battle of the Bulge)
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LEGO Stopmotion - Hitler's Last Offensive (Battle of the Bulge)
The British Disaster at the Monongahela - Braddock's Bloody Defeat
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The British Disaster at the Monongahela - Braddock's Bloody Defeat
The Incredible History of the Métis: Buffalo Hunters of Canada
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The Incredible History of the Métis: Buffalo Hunters of Canada
The Pemmican War - Canada's Forgotten Conflict
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The Pemmican War - Canada's Forgotten Conflict
Debunking the Jacobite Myth - The Propaganda Needs to Stop
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Debunking the Jacobite Myth - The Propaganda Needs to Stop
What weapons did the Scottish Highlanders use?
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What weapons did the Scottish Highlanders use?
Sorry about the typo at 2:52. Should be 'Wild West' not 'Wild Wet'! All of the pistols are listed below in order of when they came up in the video: www.theknightshop.com/flintlock-pistol-18th-century-1623 www.denix.co.uk/item/george-washington-pistol-18th-century/ www.denix.co.uk/item/colt-revolver-1851/ www.denix.co.uk/item/deringer-pistol-1850/ www.denix.co.uk/item/remington-navy-pistol-nickel-1862/ www.denix.co.uk/item/cal-45-peacemaker-4-75-inch-revolver-s-colt-usa/ www.denix.co.uk/item/colt-peacemaker-with-wooden-handle-nickel-finish/
What i don't like about the alatriste scene is how few French men seem to fall to the Spanish musket fire. None if the curaissiers are killed
Good point. The lack of cuirassiers being killed does suggest that matchlock muskets were more inaccurate and ineffective than they actually were.
Part 2?
I'm currently having a break from making UA-cam videos because of school but I might make a part 2 some time in the future if that's something you think would be interesting.
Britain became owned by the people of the two rivers in 1688
The majority of the population hated the Catholic autocrat James and usurped him. They invited William and Mary to take his place, who were Protestants and much better suited to rule over a majority Protestant country than the Catholic Stuarts.
@@Weasel-vp8zk it was an invasion by the FolX of the two rivers and the Netherlands
The pipe tune used was the Cameronian Rant
That changes the spirit of the corries songs
Unfortunately, songs have been used as a tool for spreading propaganda and romanticising various "lost causes" (Jacobites, Confederates etc)...
@@Weasel-vp8zk confederates? Ok now I'm wondering if you trust historians
@@CountBeetle Please explain what you mean by this?
@@Weasel-vp8zk it's up above
@@CountBeetle I was comparing the idiotic Confederate "Lost Cause Myth" in the Southern USA to the romanticism and mythologising of the Jacobite cause in modern-day Scotland. I hope this makes sense?
Underrated content, keep going. Here before it's viral!
Thank you!
ua-cam.com/video/astHU_ybiuI/v-deo.html My review of three different 'pike and shot' battle scenes. Find out which is the most historically accurate...
Viggo Mortensen aka Captain Alatriste, is a phenomenal human. The man speaks 9 languages ffs. He can ride a horse and swing a sword so well he could be a bonafide musketeer. You can catch full movie for free on UA-cam FYI.
Maybe CGI would allow push of pike to be more accurately portrayed
Perhaps, although I do appreciate the lack of CGI. For a good portrayal of 'push of pike', watch the Battle of Rocroi scene from Alatriste.
Unfortunately, this video has been blocked in Poland!! This seems to be because the footage from 'With Fire and Sword' (a Polish movie) is copyrighted. However, this doesn't affect the channel. Sorry to my Polish viewers (if there are any)!
MINOR CORRECTION: At 6:27, I say "the 5th" when I should've said the 4th Regiment of Foot (hence the "4th" shown on the map). The 5th Foot were involved in the Battle of Corunna but did not partake in the defence of Elvina. That was the 4th.
This scene shows the Jacobites as exclusively broadsword-wielding Highlanders... a VERY significant inaccuracy and myth. Here is a video I made on the diverse array of soldiers which fought for Bonnie Prince Charlie in the '45 Rising. ua-cam.com/video/1tGiPetQPXU/v-deo.html
Well. I think most Scots know this shit.
@@moosey62 I hope that’s true but am not sure…
All I know are quite educated
@@moosey62 Well that's good. I'm glad to hear the Jacobite myth isn't too widespread then...
Jacobites do some decent fresh food places these days.
@@moosey62 When I was up in Scotland I saw a lot of 'Jaco-Bite' restaurants.
I forgot to mention that Rupert's horse spent much of the Battle of Edgehill, having scattered the Parliamentarian horse, in looting the Parliamentarian baggage train. This is not shown in the movie.
here's another inaccuracy for you Mr H Weasel. At 2'24" when the Roundheads "Re-Group!!" the trumpet heard is a Post Horn in [high] Ab - and yet the trumpet seen looks like an Eb Cavalry Trumpet. It is the correct visual - with the incorrect audio.
Interesting. I didn't have the in-depth knowledge of cavalry trumpet/bugle calls to comment on that! So, thanks for commenting.
The Jacobite light cavalry, such as Bagot's Scotch Hussars, were armed with swords and carbines (short muskets). I forgot to mention the weapons they used in the video!
Cavalry combat israrely historically accurate in the movies and TV because TV producers can;t resist adopting the the u8sual wild west imagery and I suspect that if they did it properly the audience would complain it was boring..
Yes, it certainly wouldn't be as exciting to show the Parliamentarian cavalry trotting along in close formation and stopping to fire pistols...
One little bit of constructive criticism is that a targe wouldn’t stop a musket ball there’s a number of tests been done used the muskets of the time.
Even if the targes weren't invincible, I suppose some protection is better than none. It would definitely provide protection against pistol balls and maybe it could deflect or absorb a musket ball fired at long range if you were lucky. Whether the bullet is deflected or not also probably has a lot to do with the angle at which it hits the targe. Thanks for commenting!
@@Weasel-vp8zk Definitely better than nothing especially if at longer range!
For pete's sake, will you get over this 'historical accuracy' thing? It's not a documentary. It's a commercial film made to earn money, pure and simple. The question should be: is it entertaining?
I'm afraid you are wrong. This film calls itself a 'docu-drama' and is attempting to portray a real historical event. Therefore, it must stay true to the actual history and attempt to be as objective as possible to prevent spreading misinformation and propaganda to the general public.
Does it matter? It is a fictionalized account of an event in a commercial film made for earning money. It is not a documentary. One might as well ask whether Richard Harris actually looked like Oliver Cromwell.
I'm afraid the portrayal of real historical events in movies does matter because it can give the general public perceptions of history that may be wrong or misleading. In the case of my commentary for this video, it was mostly just nitpicking small things that aren't very significant. However, it still makes for an entertaining and informative video. Also, note that when I say a movie or battle scene is "historically inaccurate" (because it is), I am not also saying it is objectively bad. Something could be a good spectacle or exciting to watch even if aspects of it are factually incorrect.
EX-cellent point!
I feel very sorry for that The Royalists lost during the battle. 😔🙏🤲💧⛪️👑⚔️🥀😟😥
It's the taking part that counts!!
A Tragedy Period Time back then. Very Bad! No Emergency Services in the 17th Century. Can you imagine that?!
I was 11 years old when I went to the cinema to see this film with my parents. Not sure if I was technically old enough to watch it as I cannot remember its classification but I did see it. I loved the battle scenes but there were parts of the film I did not understand. The execution scene was very memorable. Did it matter to an eleven year old boy that there were historical inaccuracies,, not at all. It fired me up to love history. And as I grew older I did my own research. It also turned me into a wargamer and I have played with model soldiers to this day but there was a twist. Soon after the film I went to a local toy shop hoping to buy ECW toy soldiers. Of course there were none. Airfix did not do them but they did make American Civil War figures and I bought some and I went down a different rabbit hole. At some point I remember seeing Red Badge of Courage and was equally impressed by the film, better still I could buy the Airfix figures to fight the cinematic battles. I did return to the English Civil War when I discovered you could buy ECW metal figures from wargame manufacturers but I was probably about 16 or 17 then. Another memorable watch on TV was By The Sword Divided. I have tried with no success to find a DVD of the series. I have watched Cromwell as an adult and enjoyed the film. I do wish film directors when making war films about anything before World War One would stop the armies charging hell for leather from a great distance and when they reach each other conveniently pair off into twos for a choreographed melee. Or stop using exploding cannon balls !!
Very very good. Can find flaws of course. The artillery pieces are massively too big for field artillery. But a grand spectacle using real people. I did not know Rupert's Poodle ,Boy , had been killed prior to the battle. (I do now at Marston Moor)The dog shown is however not correct. Rupert's dog was what is now known as a Standard Poodle. I used to own 2 ( they were closely related to Roly in Eastenders, my only nebulous claim to fame!). They are wildfowl hunting/retrieving dogs (about the size of a medium Alsation). The bouffants were not originally aesthetic. They were for insulation/ buoyancy in cold water. Boy would have ran alongside Rupert on his horse. Wikipedia has an article and contemporary image . Just a factoid.
At 3:40, I misspelled 'especially'. Please forgive me for my sins...
Future James Bond 007 Timothy Dalton as Prince Rupert.
great actor - and very underrated 007.
"How historically accurate is the Battle of Naseby scene?" - who cares!! still a great film
I must say that I did enjoy the cinematic element of this scene. So much better with no CGI.
As this were Naseby, should not Colonel John Okey's Regiment of Dragoons have been shown as their crossfire from behind hedgerows did colossal damage to the Royalist cavalry?
This scene doesn’t show us the intricate tactics of the specific historical battle but instead gives us more of a broad feeling for what pike and shot warfare was like.
Agreed, but I'd still like to have seen it.
@@Pip818 Yes, it would've been a nice detail...
It was pissing rain the day before Culloden and Sleet the day of, good luck setting anything on fire !
Yup! I wonder if there were many cases of wet gunpowder and muskets misfiring due to the weather conditions? Probably.
He missed one. Artillery. There were no exploding shells; cannons were firing solid shot then. I could see some dirt getting kicked up by an impact, but why are the horses that are 5 yards away falling over? There was no shrapnel; if a cannonball missed you by 2 inches, then it may as well have missed by 2 miles.
Yes, well spotted. However, because of the difficulty (especially back in 1970) of showing a bouncing cannonball cutting off horses' legs, I can forgive the movie for this... Much easier to show exploding shells.
@@Weasel-vp8zk Well, this isn't the only flick. According to studios, solid cannonballs are a myth and the exploding shell was invented 1 day and 3 minutes after the stone arrow head.
@@mikearmstrong8483 Well, according to Gladiator, the Romans used napalm on the Germanic tribes. 🤣 I've addressed the exploding shells thing in my review of the Edeghill scene so thanks for bringing it up.
That's how the English like it a bloody fray !
Many historical films use artistic licence and have a certain amount of inaccuracy such as Elizabeth I and Mary of Scotland actually meeting in Mary Queen of Scots (1971). However Cromwell is infamous for the sheer amount of inaccuracy, even if we exclude inaccuracy in the mimitary side of the film we still have events chronologically out of order, people still alive when they were dead, people doing and saying things they did not.
I haven't watched the whole movie so didn't know about any of the inaccuracies outside of the battle scenes. Thanks for commenting.
Reminds me of a line by Broomhilda, the green-faced witch of American comic strips, quoth whom: "History's kinda like a mixed drink; ya just keep addin' stuff to it til you get it th'way ya want it." 'T'was ever thus, going back to Herodotus, Father of Lies . . . .
its a very entertaining film but about as historically correct as dads Army
That's a good way of putting it 🤣
my grandad was in the LDV that became the Home Guard. He said certain aspects of it {Dads' Army} were more like a documentary.
Thanks for the commentary, which was very helpful in explaining what I saw when I watched "Cromwell". This has prompted me to re-watch the film. English (then British) history fascinates me, especially the period of the Civil War. Britain without the Civil War would have been a very different place; as a descendant of those English Puritans (my Scottish ancestors were on the other side), I'm grateful for the changes that came about as a result of their struggle for their religious rights.
Thanks for watching and sharing your connection with the Civil War. I agree, it is a fascinating era of British history. Please consider subscribing as I hope to upload a few more videos on the Wars of the Three Kingdoms, especially in Scotland.
Didn't the Scots change sides during the Civil War? hence the 3rd verse of the National Anthem - never sung now referring to "the Scottish Knavish tricks"? How many wars has man instigated for religious reasons, continuing to this very day and tomorrow, and the day after that... and the day after that... History is indeed fascinating. Pity that we never learn from it Richard.
@@a.jamesstretton3813 Yes, the Scots did change sides... well, it's more complicated than that. The Scottish "Covenanters" did switch sides, breaking their allegiance with the English Parliamentarians. However, there were Scottish Royalists led by the Marquess of Montrose who had always been fighting for King Charles. I believe that verse, which also includes the line 'rebellious Scots to crush', harks back to the Jacobite Rising of 1745, not the Civil War. The line is ironic considering that Prince Charles Edward Stuart (leader of the Jacobite rebels) had more Scots in arms against him than for him. Yes, religion is lamentably responsible for many wars and conflicts to this day.
The Commonwealth of England was the political structure during the period from 1649 to 1660 when England and Wales, later along with Ireland and Scotland, were governed as a republic (meaning no king, queen, prince, princess, or regent) after the end of the Second English Civil War and the trial and execution of King Charles I [King of three kingdoms: Kingdom of England (including Wales I am guessing), Kingdom of Scotland, and Kingdom of Ireland.
Thanks for commenting.
I inserted 'of England' in the first line of this comment thread. I inserted the parenthetical and bracketed notes. I unintentionally omitted a bracket at the very end of said comment.
@@ieatoutoften872 Oh and yes, Kingdom of England at the time included Wales. I think that is why there's no Welsh things on the Union Jack.
@@Weasel-vp8zk I just confirmed there are no exclusive "Welsh things" on the Union Jack (flag of the U.K.). 3 sentences from encyclopedia: The design of the Union Jack dates back to the Act of Union 1801, which united the Kingdom of Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland (previously in personal union) to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The flag consists of the red cross of Saint George (patron saint of England, which also represents Wales), edged in white, superimposed on the saltire of Saint Patrick (patron saint of Ireland), also edged in white, which are superimposed on the saltire of Saint Andrew (patron saint of Scotland). Wales is not represented in the Union Flag by Wales's patron saint, Saint David, because the flag was designed whilst Wales was part of the Kingdom of England.
@@ieatoutoften872 Yes, thought so. Do consider subscribing if you are interested in more 17th-18th century British history.
The Protectorate, officially the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland, was the English form of government lasting from 16 December 1653 to 25 May 1659, under which the kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, with their associated territories were joined together in the Commonwealth of England, governed by a Lord Protector. It began when Barebone's Parliament was dissolved, and the Instrument of Government appointed Oliver Cromwell as Lord Protector of the Commonwealth. Cromwell died in September 1658 and was succeeded by his son Richard Cromwell.
Thanks for commenting.
I found the names of the oldest British (or rather English) protectorates. Notice that they predate "The Protectorate" known as the Commonwealth of England (1653 to 25 May 1659). They happen to be in the Americas: • Barbados (1627-1652) (as a proprietary colony under William Courteen, followed by James Hay I) • Mosquito Coast (1638-1860) (over Central America's Miskito Indian nation).
A protectorate is different from a colony as it has local rulers, is not directly possessed, and rarely experiences colonization by the suzerain state.
@@ieatoutoften872 Interesting.
Oliver Cromwell (25 April 1599 - 3 September 1658) was an English statesman, politician, and soldier, widely regarded as one of the most important figures in the history of the British Isles. He came to prominence during the 1639 to 1653 Wars of the Three Kingdoms, initially as a senior commander in the Parliamentarian army and latterly as a politician.
Thanks for commenting.
@@Weasel-vp8zk I copy-pasted from an online encyclopedia, and would have provided the source were it not for the fact that I knew this social media system would have automatically deleted the comment.
@@ieatoutoften872 The more comments the better! Spout encyclopaedias all you want...
The regicide genocide Cromwell.
Not to mention a religious bigot and mass murderer
Great video keep it up mate 👍
Thank you!
The painting at about 5:10 depicts the Battle of the North Inch, that's a great story and well worth a bit of reading
Never heard of that battle so I'll look into it. The image came up when I searched into google 'early clan battle' and because there aren't any depictions of the Battle of the Shirts, I just decided to use it. From a quick google search I can see that the Battle of North Inch happened in 1396, so the painting isn't terribly accurate as it shows the Highlanders wearing plaids/kilts, which weren't worn until the late 1500s. Thanks for watching!
Also the picture of the fellow in the leine with the javelin is Irish.
@@eddiemccabe4585 Yes and I also used an image of Irish gallowglasses somewhere in this video. 16th century Highland warriors probably looked quite similar.
Colquhoun here...great explanation
@@dougsmonsters4866 Glad to hear you liked it! And was I pronouncing your clan name at all correctly?
If you don't want to listen to me speaking for nearly 6 minutes, then here is a brief summary: The Jacobites were not freedom-fighters or heroes but rather trouble-makers who fought for the divine right of kings over democratic decision to usurp King James in 1688, and wanted a monarch on the throne of Great Britain who was a Catholic. Thus, the Jacobites were a small minority, even in Scotland and even among the Highland clans (who were predominantly Protestants). They did NOT fight for Scottish independence, they fought to restore the Scottish Stuart dynasty to the throne of all of the British Isles. If any considered political separation from England, it was down to a desire for stopping the interference of the British government in clan affairs (aka. peace-keeping through disarming acts and policing etc). The Jacobite clans were fighting for their OWN self-interests, not for Scottish nationalism, otherwise they wouldn't have rebelled against the Scottish government during the 1689 Rising BEFORE the 1707 Union was even signed. As for Bonnie Prince Charlie, he was a bad military tactician and an overly-ambitious fool.
U sound like ur either English....or just very disappointed 😅😅😅😅
@@josefsterling5462 I'm English and part Scot. Disappointed in what?
Ok. Glad 2 hear true history
I'm glad you're glad to hear true history 😅
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This is a difficult one on a number of levels. I cannot name my source. Bayoneting of the wounded. A quick bayonet = a quick death for a man with untreatable wounds as opposed to a prolonged agonised/painful death. British troops after Rorkes Drift may have done the same to dreadfully wounded Zulu warriors.
Yes, if the enemy was horrifically wounded, it could be seen as a merciful act. However, the lack of quarter shown to captured and retreating Jacobites implies the government troops weren't using their bayonets on the wounded out of kindness... In addition to this, a wounded man can still pose a threat to an advancing army, as they may still be able to scythe at people's legs with a sword or fire a pistol. Likewise, the Jacobites often showed little mercy to wounded and retreating government troops... Killiecrankie for example.
Your comment about the aftermath of Prestonpans was completely inaccurate. Charles made sure the Hanoverian wounded were attended to. Hanoverian officers were freed on condition they did not take up arms against the Stuart cause again.
I seem to recall reading that many of the British soldiery at Prestonpans were slaughtered by the Jacobites even as they tried to surrender, in spite of Charles pleading for mercy. Charles didn't speak Gaelic so the Highlanders couldn't understand him. However, I now can't find where I read that so I apologise if that turns out to be a load of rubbish. Perhaps a better example of Jacobite brutality would have been Killiecrankie (1689), where fleeing government troops were slaughtered or drowned in the River Garry. The battle itself only lasted 15 minutes, but the killing went on for hours into the night. I'm not saying this made the Jacobites particularly monstrous.... cutting down routing armies was normal at the time. However, because this docu-drama wants to demonise the Redcoats or at least portray the Highlanders in a more favourable light, it never mentions Jacobite atrocities or ruthlessness. Likewise, the government reprisals following Culloden are shocking to a modern audience. However, that sort of pillaging and revenge-taking on innocent civilian populaces was a common occurrence in clan feuds. At the Battle of the Spoiling Dyke, MacDonald clansmen set fire to a church full of MacLeods. The church was burned as revenge for a previous atrocity committed by the MacLeods on the MacDonalds. Sometime soon, I will make a video on the most brutal clan battles.
I have just now found an account written by James Johnstone, a Jacobite officer, describing the slaughter at Prestonpans: '[those British soldiers which] threw down their arms, and begged for quarter upon their knees, were cut inhumanely.... such who fled into the enclosures were pursued and murdered...'
Thanks for doing us this service. Good job that Braveheart fella didn't get his hands on it.
Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, a Mel Gibson Hollywood movie about Culloden and the Jacobites might actually make me have a fit!
Went to culloden last year and got asked about outlander by 2 Americans tourists, never heard of it in my life up till that point.
@@loyalpiper I’m sorry that you are now aware of the existence of this monstrosity…
Remember that there were mire Scots fighting for the Government than for the Jacobites.
Yes, the Jacobite Risings and the Battle of Culloden were by no means Scotland vs England. On the Jacobite side there were Highlanders, Lowlanders, Irish and even a handful of Northern English. On the Government side there were English and Scottish Lowlanders, along with a significant number of Highlanders (including the most powerful Highland clan, the Campbells). I think there may have also been some Dutch and Hanoverians.
Some more recent historians have questioned the depiction of O'Sullivan as the abject fool shown in the film. There was tension between Scottish Protestants like Murray and Irish Catholics like O'Sullivan, with the latter tending to be favoured by the Prince.
That’s interesting... I didn’t know religion also played a part in the conflict within the Jacobite command. All round, a very divided army!
A French actor played Charles, with a strong French accent, for which there is little to no evidence. Charles spoke English, French and Italian.
I suppose it’s better than him having a strong Scottish accent…