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Bill Chen on Public Equity Investing in Real Estate (Part 3)
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In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner and John Mihaljevic welcome back special guest Bill Chen, founder and managing partner of Rhizome Partners, to discuss public equity investing in real estate.
Bill explains how investors should think about the capital structure of REITs. He highlights Vornado Realty Trust as an example.
This conversation is part three of a multi-part series.
Enjoy the conversation!
The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Security specific information shared on this podcast should not be relied upon as a basis for your own investment decisions -- be sure to do your own research. The podcast hosts and participants may have a position in the securities mentioned, personally, through sub accounts and/or through separate funds and may change their holdings at any time.
About the Guest:
Bill Chen is the founder and managing partner of Rhizome Partners (2013), Rhizome Real Asset Opportunity Fund (2020), and Rhizome Hard Asset Opportunity Fund (2023). Prior to forming Rhizome Partners in March 2013, Mr. Chen traded and invested his own assets, utilizing strategies that focused on deep value investments and event-driven strategies. From August 2009 until January 2011, he was the Director of Research at New York Global Group, a private equity firm that invested in growth companies in mainland China. From October 2006 to March 2009, Mr. Chen was an Analyst in Citigroup’s real estate investment banking group, a group that focused on M&A transactions of up to $1 billion. From October 2005 until October 2006, Mr. Chen was a mechanical engineer for Bladykas Engineering. Mr. Chen received his B.S. in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering from Cornell University in 2004.
About the Co-Hosts:
Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunities. Elliot focuses on discovering and analyzing long-term, high quality investment opportunities and strategic portfolio management. Prior to joining RGA, Elliot managed portfolios at at AustinWeston Asset Management LLC, Chimera Securities and T3 Capital. Elliot holds the Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) designation as well as a Juris Doctor from Brooklyn Law School.. He also holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from Emory University where he double majored in Political Science and Philosophy.
John Mihaljevic leads MOI Global and serves as managing editor of The Manual of Ideas. He managed a private partnership, Mihaljevic Partners LP, from 2005-2016. John is a winner of the Value Investors Club’s prize for best investment idea. He is a trained capital allocator, having studied under Yale University Chief Investment Officer David Swensen and served as Research Assistant to Nobel Laureate James Tobin. John holds a BA in Economics, summa cum laude, from Yale and is a CFA charterholder.
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  • @simoonn3
    @simoonn3 4 дні тому

    2014, back when Guy interrupted a lot lol

  • @rickfool1452
    @rickfool1452 2 місяці тому

    😡

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    Although I'm an absolute investor, I do like to compare my performance to indices for fun. Rather than try to "beat the market" on the upside, I'm more focused on saving myself from the downside. The market is up 1% and I'm only up 0.50% or 0.75%? No problem. The market is down 1% and I'm only down 0.5% or 0.75%? Ahh, excellent! That's the goal. No bad days, right? 😉

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    Holy cow! That intro blew my mind! 😀

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    I kind of disagree with Howard Marks here. There's plenty that I don't get into, regardless of price. Pharmaceuticals is a great example for me. I don't know what it takes to make a successful drug from the scientific perspective and I certainly don't understand all the regulations. If something like Bayer, Moderna, etc crashes like a vase then I'm just going to stand out of the way to make sure the shards from the vase and the goop inside of it don't hit me. In this case, I would fall into the "I don't do that" camp. That doesn't mean "I only do this" regardless of price. It's OK to do nothing and let cash pile up. Currently, short term T-Bills give over 5% yield. Money market funds and CDs are a smidge behind right at 5%. Plenty of preferred stock to choose from as well as beaten down REITs. So, there's always something we can do ... the big question is should we? Should we tinker here? I understand I'm probably going out further and farther than what Howard Marks meant but it's an interesting thought experiment. 🙂

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    Blotting out bad memories - oof! I must be an outlier. My bad memories are seared into my memory and act as guardrails. No way do I want to "go back there" so I make sure my decisions don't take me "back there". Getting whacked once was plenty enough! 😳 😉

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    So, avoid failure by managing and mitigating risk ... and success takes care of itself.

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    I love the opening line, "It's a mindset, not an algorithm." !! I always appreciate Howard Marks' wisdom. He is like a hyper-rational machine that can operate in all terrains under all conditions.

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    So, to paraphrase Napoleon a bit, keep your head while everyone else is losing theirs and you should be OK. Lose your head along with everyone else, and you'll find yourself in trouble.

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds 4 місяці тому

    I also noticed the cycling shoes! That is true mark of living life on your own terms. Love it! I wish we could have seen Mohnish's bike! 🚲 A pleasant conversation on investing philosophy for sure! I appreciate his thoughtfulness and for finding a credo that works for him. We all should develop a credo that lines up with our own values and meshes with our personality. Mohnish has created a space that works for him. It's a little too busy looking for me. I need a lot of empty and open space. Give me a big desk, with a massive computer monitor, a handful of wooden pencils, and a stack of scratch paper. Give me a bookshelf filled with thoughtful authors and two typewriters - my IBM Selectric and my Olympia SM-8.

  • @davidc4408
    @davidc4408 6 місяців тому

    What is his networth

  • @user-vh2lq8ou8t
    @user-vh2lq8ou8t 7 місяців тому

    Another thought provoking and thoughtful episode 👍

  • @Vale-ev1bx
    @Vale-ev1bx 8 місяців тому

    Promo_SM 🤣

  • @jeffmilligan7030
    @jeffmilligan7030 10 місяців тому

    Mohnish looks much better clean-shaven

  • @GolfsMyGame
    @GolfsMyGame 10 місяців тому

    Interesting his convo on Silicon Valley Bank

  • @kiranvrao9714
    @kiranvrao9714 11 місяців тому

    Lovely

  • @Cloninginvesting
    @Cloninginvesting Рік тому

    Loved it, wealth of information

  • @avbm1971avbm
    @avbm1971avbm Рік тому

    You are both great!

  • @SonyKerala
    @SonyKerala Рік тому

    Where is your office ?

  • @Sp1ash99
    @Sp1ash99 Рік тому

    Perhaps a more interesting paper could be :The Whiffs of Warren Buffett" detailing stock buys & businesses that didn't work out. Rational reasons, then why as best could be reconstructed why they didn't work out.

  • @gbvoul
    @gbvoul Рік тому

    32:00 this aged well

    • @simong9163
      @simong9163 9 місяців тому

      You beat me to that comment :)

  • @magalengo
    @magalengo Рік тому

    Berkshire’s advantage is rational thinking. Those who think in terms of stereotypes will call the advantage “insider information” or “luck”.

  • @DeepSukhwani
    @DeepSukhwani Рік тому

    Thank you for the insightful discussion 🙏

  • @frankwang4143
    @frankwang4143 Рік тому

    "It's over" famous last words from investors back in '01 lol

  • @josephkim8940
    @josephkim8940 Рік тому

    I think crypto is dead if this is true

  • @rhys1412
    @rhys1412 Рік тому

    Keep up the awesome work!!! Crush your competition with 'PromoSM'.

  • @ConvergenceTrader
    @ConvergenceTrader Рік тому

    Love from Bihar,India 💛

  • @aljumaili
    @aljumaili Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing Howard Marks insight. Latest memo was very interesting 👌

  • @rickfool1452
    @rickfool1452 Рік тому

    that was a dr dre song you racialist fyck

  • @magalengo
    @magalengo Рік тому

    “A limited supply of nothing.” An entire industry built on fraud and stupidity. Anyone who is surprised by this hasn’t been thinking rationally.

  • @Xyz19781i
    @Xyz19781i Рік тому

    excellent discussion

  • @vkmacro919
    @vkmacro919 Рік тому

    Good discussion guys.

  • @mikodizon8322
    @mikodizon8322 Рік тому

    Mohnish was right on Amazon

  • @amrisharora6246
    @amrisharora6246 Рік тому

    Mohnish is more lucky then intelligent and a cloner

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX Рік тому

      Yeah he says that himself many times in his books. He says there is no need to invent new if you can leverage the existing ones.

  • @abhijeet.singh19
    @abhijeet.singh19 2 роки тому

    5th watch !

  • @lorenzmuller3542
    @lorenzmuller3542 2 роки тому

    The Chipotle thesis is I think fundamentally wrong. It was clearly impossible to see the global trajectory of a restaurant(!) starting on 3 US states. Could have been any other mexican restaurant chain. You just cannot with certainty pick that kind of a no-moat franchise ex ante at an early stage. Different to smaller niche markets where you are actually leading. Silicon Valley Bank is the better example.

  • @gbcalisi
    @gbcalisi 2 роки тому

    I can keep watching this clip forever. True legends!

  • @sourishsaha8067
    @sourishsaha8067 2 роки тому

    Amazing video

  • @danny100d
    @danny100d 2 роки тому

    Thanks for posting

  • @tlpgalvao
    @tlpgalvao 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this discussion.

  • @george6977
    @george6977 2 роки тому

    👍The apes will learn from experience since they don’t listen to your wise words.

  • @george6977
    @george6977 2 роки тому

    Buy the dips if the company can recover, not if it’s going to fail. Why not buy the index instead? It’s less effort, less time consuming and less stressful.

  • @george6977
    @george6977 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @george6977
    @george6977 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @SuperRockstar007
    @SuperRockstar007 2 роки тому

    What good his foundation is doing by getting people to few iit colleges which are so few , can't see best value

  • @tomdallas3690
    @tomdallas3690 2 роки тому

    Two fraudulent scumbag losers.

  • @freedomroad999
    @freedomroad999 2 роки тому

    Great dialogue. I would point out that an absolute necessity for a Good society of any size is TRUST. And lying is destructive to that necessity. And this is why todays society is in existential trouble and is doomed unless it gets itself on a truthful path.