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Doesn't seem like much point taking off my jacket and toque when it's -30C and will be getting out of the car in just 30 minutes. It's how I drove in an ICE car too. My old ICE car wouldn't even have warmed up until 10-15 minutes into the trip. Not sure about consumption, have never set it that high, but it's pretty negligible, since the heat pump is so efficient.

Will try, life is too busy at the moment..

@@TeslaCampingCanada oh ok.

Exactly.

I have another video of supercharging at -35C. Since I preconditioned the battery, the charging speed was almost normal, but of course I wasted a bunch of energy doing that, resulting in needing to get that energy back, so a little longer of a charging session than it would be in warmer weather.

I'm not sure, I don't have much time at the moment to do any kind of videos. Thanks for the offer though!

@@TeslaCampingCanada Thanks,please let me know if you are interested

How so?

Compared to the -38C the week prior, it felt like summer ;)

$210/mo and for context, I previously paid $90/mo on a vehicle worth only 1/40 as much and didn't have collision coverage. So not bad in my opinion.

I made them myself from a roll of Reflectix from Home Depot

@@TeslaCampingCanada awesome, I will try this!

So you can charge in the middle of nowhere like this guy? You better do.

Ya, I don't see any advantage to a hybrid.

Ya that might be the better way to do it, I'll have to try that, thanks!

Summary at the end of the video, but 260km theoretically at -35c.

We had over minus 10 here in germany and i almost died🤣

That’s Celsius.

I cant even handle 10*C. Yep 10C is about 45*F. 55F is very cold for me in NorCal, USA.

Here in central Canada our Winters can drop to -40C in January/February. -40C = -40F. Yup, -5C is nothing. That’s like shorts weather in spring time for some people. 😂

Yes, that's why I unplugged and started driving as soon as the cabin got to my desired temperature, and didn't wait for the battery to finish preconditioning.

Wait until you learn about things called smartphones.. oh, and the electrical grid, it's a cool new invention!

Yes, you can see on the screen it's set to 20C(68F). Plus heated seat and steering wheel.

I don't know, depends on your definition of short. 280km max range at -30c means you could do 100km each way while leaving a decent buffer, assuming you can charge at home. And if you can level 2 charge at work too, then you could do double that. How far is your commute?

If the heat pump stopped working, my window fogging would likely be the least of my worries.

It's a trade-off. Less range, but you gain the ability to charge while you sleep, and leave every morning with a "full tank". Not just from home, but from a hotel or campground as well. It's just a different experience.

Ya it wasn't until the first camping trip with my wife that we tested it out and realized how it worked, before that I had been sleeping in an unlocked car I guess, oops!

The battery is only going to lose significant charge when it is cold. In warmer temperatures you could leave it unplugged for months, it loses about 1%/week. So no, it doesn't always need to be plugged in. Would you rather have a cell phone that's battery only lasted a couple days but you could charge at home every night while you sleep, or one that lasted 1-2 weeks but you had to drive somewhere and stand outside for a couple minutes to charge it?

Cool, so can I.

Yup, luckily it doesn't get that cold for more than a week or two a year here though, and being able to charge at home means it doesn't really matter in most situations anyways.

Well, firstly, no one shopping for a new vehicle will be forced to buy an EV due to the mandate, since it allows for plug-in hybrids, where most of the vehicle's range is from gas. And as with any new technology, EVs are predictably declining in price as manufacturing and supply chains mature. They are on track to being the same price or cheaper than ICE well before 2035. So the mandate is pointless in my opinion, I would like to see it scrapped. Once at purchase price parity with ICE/Hybrids, the lower operating costs of an EV means saving money for car owners. Range has been slowly increasing over the last decade and will continue to do so, the pace of advancements in cell energy density may accelerate now that so much industry money is pouring into R&D. Batteries are likely still in their infancy. 11 years is a long time. One last note, it doesn't really matter what the Canadian government does anyways, we are a fairly insignificant market. So goes the world, so goes Canada.

I mean I wouldn't want to be doing many 1000km+ trips at -30c in it, it would be a little inconvenient with the extra charging time. But I sure don't need 280km to get groceries lol. It's no problem getting out to the mountains for a winter hike or skiing, although I don't normally go do those things when it's -30c...

I used 35% to drive 96km though. Giving a total possible range of 280km at -29c. Definitely need some longer range EVs for rural Canadian winters though.

@TeslaCampingCanada for sure, that is what terrifies me. For 4 months of the year it can hit -30 or colder. The next two communities are small towns, 140km and 165km away, the nearest city is 210 kms away. My wife's family is 1300km away. Electric motors are nearly perfect, if someone reinvents the battery to fully utilize electric power my fears would disappear.

You can go 280km/174miles on 2 gallons of gas at -30c?

Only real jobs require more than 250km range at -35C?

@@TeslaCampingCanada North Ontario is a big place. 250 km. just won't cut it. It's 350 km. from YQT to Fort Frances, one way. YQT to Pickle Lake is almost 550 km., one way. Our last fishing trip was almost 200 km., one way. No Tesla Superchargers out in the Wilderness, man.

Okay... so don't buy an EV if you want to go on a 400km fishing trip in the middle of winter on a road with no charging infrastructure or electricity. What's the big deal?

@@TeslaCampingCanada ...the big deal is Canada...long distances, cold weather, no chargers...EVs? Fine for people with no brains.

In the summer I usually stop every 2 - 2.5 hours(~250km) and charge for 10-15 minutes. At -30c I'd probably want to stop every ~150km, and charging would a little longer. Definitely not ideal for long trips at -30c, but I don't do long trips very often at that temperature, so it doesn't matter to me. The screen has the only speedometer in the car, so you can't cover it. I much prefer it now vs any other car, it's easier to read the information I need.

@@TeslaCampingCanada .. Thanks for the info. We're in Maine, and our forecast low for tonight is -16C .... a little chilly to be driving home from Portland (~140 km), especially on a highway with very little peripheral infrastructure. BUT, thanks to Elon Musk's horrific public outbursts, we've already decided NOT to buy a Tesla under any circumstances. If we get an all-electric vehicle, it'll be another brand.

So at -16c I lose about 30% range, so about 350km would be the max range. So you could do the whole trip on one charge, but ideally would want to charge a bit before the return trip to be safe.

I used 35% of the battery to drive 96km.

Thank you. I was confusing range loss with power loss.@@TeslaCampingCanada

Because they have more range loss than combustion vehicles in the cold? Well, it's a trade-off, winter range loss, but you gain the ability to refuel at home while you sleep, and can leave every morning with a "full tank".

Thanks!

😂

Do a quick google, you'll find Teslas are actually the most American-made vehicles you can buy. The cars are made in either California or Texas, The cells and batteries and are made in either Nevada or Texas. The motors are made in Nevada. Etc etc etc...

@@TeslaCampingCanada yeah that’s ok I would never contribute to the green agenda. The global warming is a farce anyway. Nothing is more reliable then a gas or diesel engine and I pray for global warming so I wouldn’t have to deal with snow and cold