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ZF S6-40 MAIN AND COUNTER SHAFT DISASSEMBLY PART 2
Welcome to my second part of the ZF S6-40 main and counter shaft disassembly.
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ZF S6-40 STEP BY STEP DISASSEMBLY
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Removal of extension housing, rear and front case.
The front cap is made of Rubber on mine it has a hole in it i don't know if it will leak with the hole in it looking for replacement
hi - working on an older zf m15 and not sure how to remove the int shaft? im sure the pin presses out but found quite alot of tension and didnt want to break the tab off. yes some heat was applied as well.. just really tight? also the input shaft teeth are pretty bad, where can we find a replacement or can we have them recut?
Very good Job 👍🏻 i Need the Name of the Shop for the transmisionparts Thanks best regards from Germany
Wurde schon mehrfach gefragt. Schau dir die Kommentare in Part 1 an. JonasKlemens und viele anderen hatten schon danach gefragt und eine Antwort bekommen.
Awesome
Where did you get parts?
This question has been asked so many times, look below and you will find what I wrote
Awesome.......thanks!
Great video. Would you be able to share the dimensions of the 2 split plates? I want to make some, before I start tearing mine apart.
Hi Chris, I can send you a picture with the dimentions, just send me an address (whatsapp) etc where to send the info to
@@vettef6929 Thank you for the quick reply. My email address is chrisnisy@gmail.com. Regards Chris
Thank you again.
hello you are amazing teacher and and amazing person. thank you for sharing this. i have built many gear boxes on the bench. i was told don't even try this by some people that i respect vary much, i think they are old school witch is good so am i they were just scared. you have gave the confidence if i have to rebuild mine. im in the process of changing from an auto 700 r to a ZF6 and a D44 on my C4. its lots of work but if for some resion i have to pull it out and fix a gear of synchro its easy stuff now. thank you i would build anything with your gudens, men like youself are fading away fast.
Michael, thank you for your comment, I guess you have also seen part 2 and hope you liked it also. I have a 92 Corvette C4 and have done what you are doing now, replacing the 700r and the D36. My Vette signature looks like this: 92 LT1, was auto now ZF 6 sp. 397ci, Ross pistons, 210cc LT4 AFR Eliminator heads, self made TR-intake, 1.6 RR, SR 247/255 .664/.664 112°, 11.0:1 CR, 58mm TB, 36# injectors, Hooker 1 3/4" lt headers, no cats, self made dual SS 3" exhaust sys., X-pipe, MagnaFlow mufflers, 4.10 rear, Brembo 13.5" brakes, bigger stabs, coil overs, C6 Z06 18" wheels. HP 540 / TQ 530
Great work. I own a 1991 6spd vette. Was planing to rebuild the ZF S6-40..
good luck...
@@vettef6929 thanks. I mailed zfdoc for parts. But no reply. Hope he get back to me ;)
@@FoxMulder_ Give him some time, he has the same holidays as we do. I've known him for quite some time, he is the best...
@@vettef6929 Will do. I often forgot about holidays as I dont have them, my job is a 24/7 type of job ;)
I guess I have to ask, after all this work, are replacement syncros even available? The ZF website has manual transmissions listed, but not for the C4 Corvette.
get in touch with ZF doc, link is somewhere below , or just google.....
This is just what I was looking for. Have a 4th gear that grinds on my 95 Corvette, but only after warming up. Each step seems doable; what I see as problematic is organization and remembering what came out of where. Looking forward to Part 2.
Too bad there isn't a better reverse/sixth gear bearing available that will not destroy the main shaft when the bearing fails. Maybe some type of bronze or babbitt with pressurized oiling could address this weak point? As we all know total sales of zf6 equipped c4's was less than 60,000 units. Used parts supplies are getting harder to find. Amazes me zfdoc or others have not came up with a more permanent solution to this known failure point (aside from external oiling system that adds weight, complexity etc. etc.
Excellent content. Well done Sir!
Did you get it back together? How did it turn out
This is an awesome video. Great detail and camera angles. It’s a shame parts are so dang hard to find for this transmission.
Thanks Dan. Like I wrote before, couldn't find any videos here on youtube that showed me how to take one apart and no one wanted to touch my ZF even certified ZF repair shops!! Mostly they told me that they needed special tools, so I made a few myself, wasn't that hard.
@@vettef6929 any idea where we can find new/replacement bearings?
@@DanOnFire I have answered this question several times, please look at the answers I have written
Wow this is such a great video!! I will need to rebuild the transmission on my '94 in the next year or so and this will be a great resource. Thanks!
Excellent video! What a beautiful transmission design!
Hey friends, I have an Corvette 5.7l from 1990 whit the gear type ZF S6-40, and i need to change the 2nd gear, the syncronising ring , the sleeve of the 2nd, and the hole clutch set, but here in Belgium is not to find this parts. So if any of you know some adres of a store or factory or link to find my parts, i will pleased.
I have written so often, contact Bill Boudreau zfdoc.com/ to get ZF parts. Clutch parts, you can buy everywhere in the world, use your internet. Try Summit, that's where I buy all my parts.
Fantastic video, it help me disassembly my gearbox quickly and save, also, can someone help me find a place where i can by the parts of this corvette gear, any link? Thank you all Marco
Glad I can help people like you to do this job by themselves. The link and address I have postet here several times, just look at the answeres I have given so far.
How did your rebuild go? I'm doing my '94 soon(ish)
Hi, Thanks for making the video. Do you have a link to some repair kit for this gearbox?
As far as I know there are no repair kits. You can call or write Bill www.zfdoc.com/index.htm. He has plenty of parts and gaskets. Tell him Arnold from Germany told you to give him a call.
@@vettef6929 Thanks, I emailed him lets see. If you now any complete for sale I would be interested to buy a complete gearbox.
Hello, how often do you have to overhaul the bearing from reverse gear? I currently have the same problem and am considering trying to get a second gearbox which I can then change in case of failure and then have time to overhaul the defective one. How much work is it to change the input shaft in case I get a transmission of a normal c4? I have a ZR-1 with the longer input shaft? I am a normal car driver, but live in Germany, where it is no problem to drive faster than 130mph. The two videos are really great and the way you describe everything is also super explained and understandable. 3 times thumbs up.
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Keep on sharing your knowledge about Transmission sir. Sending my support from #MoisesAutoAndTrucksGarage
Thanks for this video. It's very helpful. I'm working on my c4 vette. Can you write the website for zf spare parts? I can't understand listening the video. Sorry....
You can contact Bill, the best man ever at www.zfdoc.com/index.htm
You seem very knowledgeable. I have a weird problem with my ZF6 black tag and wanted to make sure I'm not killing the transmission. I have a grind kind of like the gear buzz that ZF doc talks about. But it only happens when turning left or under heavy load. Very quiet in neutral. What do you think it could be? Thank you for any help.
Never heard of a trani making noise when making a left turn!! Check the oil level of your trani. The only thing I can think of at the moment is a front wheel bearing, maybe even a rear bearing. This means it might be the right side front wheel bearing. You're making a left turn so it's always the opposite side making the noise.
@@vettef6929 The fluid is full. Just put in 2.3 quarts or so of Amsoil. I was thinking about the wheel bearing too. According to ppl with similar problems and forums it seems to be that the dmf is failing or maybe the throwout bearing. Doesn't seem to be inside the transmission. We'll find out when I drop the transmission within the year.
@@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics I would try to find out where the noise is coming from before I remove the trani. A car wont drive without one.! The dmf makes noise mostly at idle and doesn't care if you make a left turn or not. Take your car on a road where you are alone and drive constantly 35 mph. Then turn you steering wheel from left to right like the slalom skiers do. You will then hear the noise every time you turn the steering wheel to the left. Then replace both left and right wheel bearings. Good luck
@@vettef6929 im pretty sure it's not the wheel bearings bc I can make the noise happen when I'm parked.
amazing video !!!!
Glad you liked it. Part 2 is a little more technical, but can be very helpful if you ever decide to take the shafts apart.
just purchased a core black tag 1992 for 520$ with shifter has 28k miles and it grinds in 6th is this a good price
@@BigWillAuto The price seems to be Ok, but who knows how many parts you will need. They are not cheap!!!
@@vettef6929 would you have to disassemble those gear shafts during a rebuild, or would the kit come with a plug and play kind of thing?
@@socalsalas2983 there is no such thing as a plug and play with the ZF trani. You can contact Bill, the best man ever at www.zfdoc.com/index.htm He has parts and way more knowledge than anybody I know...
Excellent video sir, thanks for posting this. This will be very helpful when working on my 95 vette.
Glad you and others like both of my ZF S6 videos
How did your rebuild go? I'll be doing my '94 in the near future
4:24 wait... are all the gears like that? With the removable cones? Because I'm having visions of a drop in dog engagement kit! Machine up the required parts as usual then the gear side dogs can simply take the place of the cones. Slotting in whose handy recesses. Most dog shift conversions that use stock gears machine off the cone and stock dogs then weld on new larger dogs. I pondered the realities of dogs that fit over stock cones and are retained by snap rings in the groove behind the stock dogs but didnt figure most trannies would have enough room to make all that fit.
Ok nevermind... I'm not sure what I thought I saw the first time but I was wrong lol.
Thank you. There's never too much information in internet about S6-40.
This was the reason for me to make this video. You just can't find anything that can be so easily understood and followed like in this video. Hope you enjoy part II also.
@@vettef6929 thank you, I just picked up a blue tag trans that came in a pile of parts. Tue 4th gear synchro failed and the bellhousing bolts are missing but otherwise it looks to be in good shape and complete. Your video will be invaluable for reassembling this thing. I got it very cheap but I can tell already I'll have to put a bit of money into it even just for the dmfew issues I have found already.
@@DrewLSsix That was my intension with this video; to help people get this S6-40 disassembled by themselves. Didn't find anything on UA-cam that could help me disassemble the trani, so I made two videos so almost anyone with a few tools can do what I did....
@@vettef6929 I love all of your homemade tools
On the subject of oil starvation of the 6th gear bearing, what's the solution? I've read of that issue on one of the forums but don't recall seeing an answer.
Sorry for getting back to you so late. It's the reverse gear that seized up on me, not the 6th gear. 6th gear isn't rotating about the shaft while in gear. Had to look up all the emails from Bill Boudreau ZFdoc.com. We probably sent 100 emails back and forth and discussed not only this theme. This is what he wrote in short form: Look at the reverse gear to possibly see how well detailed the oil port was finished and if the factory at least even chamfered it at the reverse gear ID surface that feeds (actually draws oil from) the needle cage. The reverse gear shoulder recess feeds the needle cage. Hope this helps Vette F6
Yes, Bill is a great guy. It might take a day or so for him to answer, but he will. The blue tag trani I took apart in the video was also for training purposes, but this trani will never be put together again. There are just too many parts burned or defect. He wrote it wold take about $1800 to repair. So I'll keep all good parts until I tear down the trani I'm using now, might need some parts there.
@@vettef6929 ; I will probably contact the 'ZFDoc' if I'm stuck on some detail of my transmission or need parts (worn 2nd syncho ring). Let's see how far I can get on my own. Something I won't do is to get in too deep, mangle something and then throw the 'works' at Bill for him to straighten out. I just hope my 20 ton press can handle the shaft disassembly! Thanks again.
@@vettef6929 he has done pressurized oiling with an external pump and cooler to make these transmissions live with high power and sustained high speeds. Looks expensive, but is better than having it lock up at 150 mph or higher.
Very innovative use of tools and technique that should help others tackle this intimidating project, thanks for posting!