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No idea, probably from some stock music library

In this video I didn't really bother to fix the video levels as noted in the description so there may be clipping in several of the clips. The DMR-EH58 (and other panasonc dvd-recorders) do have a design flaw where they tend to clip very bright from vhs though which can't be fixed after capture (though can be worked around to a degree if you can lower the video signal level going into it.) With vhs-decode you capture the raw signal from the tape, not the decoded output so you can avoid any clipping if you want as you have full control over all of the decoding steps so you can adjust as needed. The person in that video may not have exported it to youtube that way though. The TBC-3000 has a proc amp so you can adjust the levels on it to avoid it clipping though the built in TBCs in some VCRs which you have to use since it doesn't stabilize horizontal jitter much on it's own (as seen in my followup video) do. The TBC/DNR unit in PAL JVC SVHS VCRs is one example, those do clip very bright parts, not sure if the same is true when it comes to the NTSC variant.

@@analogvideochannel4612 okay cool that’s interesting. I was wondering about that with decode. Yeah I have a Panasonic 1980p ag and a pinnacle 710 but I’m just about to start putting out videos. I’m learning hybrid and figuring out some of the software side better.

Yea the caps in these early 90s sonys seem to all go bad over time, I don't have any of these but I have some others like a TR705e and a TR840e that I started on trying to fix at one point.

Luckily their big brothers, the CCD-V5000E and CCD-V6000E had video input capabilities.

Pansonic NV-SD220 VCR connected to a domesday duplicator using standard oscilloscope probes

No, the VCR used here does not have a TBC

The VC500 (and other cards based around the same hardware) are fine with stable in-spec video input but yeah it can not cope well with direct video from videotapes or non-standard video output from e.g old game consoles at all (though this is an extreme example). If you don't want to go all in with tinkering vhs-decode which can be a bit daunting, you can pass the video via certain models of dvd-recorder like one of the ones demoed in this or the second stabilization video on my channel to stabilize it to get pretty decent results with the VC500 (though I've also had some issue with the audio levels being a bit too high on it, not sure if that's still an issue)

@@analogvideochannel4612 The VC500 is known - and confirmed by me as well - to change video levels mid-scene, so even with a stabilized video it is not the best solution.

@@analogvideochannel4612 " (though this is an extreme example). " i have some rather more extreme examples on my channel. those examples make me not believe in tbc at all. in this case it's well known fact diamond is bad, gv seems acceptable, while vhs-decode has best sharpness and stability, ie it's not doing oversharpening like others...oversharpening in the end destroys detail....grass looks better with vhs-decode

No sorry I don't really know much about these models. You can often find manuals floating around on the internet but if not it can be hard to tell the specifics.

Which part specifically? I forgot to link it in the description but if you google vhs-decode you can find info on what it is, it's a bit much for a comment. The others are just direct captures using virtualdub with the respective devices (with panasonc eh58 I recorded the HDMI output from it with a hdmi capture card going via a HDMI splitter to evade HDCP) Then used avisynth to line up all the captures and used a simple deinterlacer (yadif). For an actual capture rather than a comparison I would have used a more sofisticated deinterlacer like QTGMC though. If you just want a pretty decent result on a budget without a ton of extra work, sending the video via one of certain dvd-recorders which have good video stabilizing capabilities and recording thhe direct output with a capture card is an option that can provide very good results.

It's a little newer, so more like the models from ES15 and newer. Usually it's about the same as the ES10. I don't have a ES10 sample of this uploaded but this tape was one of the very rare cases where there was actually a very slight difference and the EH58 couldn't quite keep it completely stable at the very end while the ES10 did.

@@analogvideochannel4612 Ohh, really interesting. Have you read about that German guy who defend that is better to capture directly from HDMI port from these modern Panasonic dvds ? Seems that have HDMI and being digital, there are some advantages than goes to SVideo analog output again to enter in your capture card..... What do you think? Regards!

@@srmusicomusic4279 Yeah that's what I mostly use, you skip the conversion back to analog and it also gives the full 720 pixels of width without the left/right edges being blanked on most dvd-recorders I've tried on unlike the analog outputs.

@@analogvideochannel4612 wow ! Really interesting 😊. I want to try it . What would be the best Pal Panasonic (or other brand ) model to do it with a good balance with good line tbc and ? My main tapes are mostly in a good condition and I have also a good VCR (Philips DVHS VR 20D) (I Normally disable the internal TBC to use my DMR ES10 . with my Aja Kona LHi solve all drops) Thanks for your videos and knowledge!

@@srmusicomusic4279 Most PAL Panasonics with HDMI out are pretty similar afaik.

Yup, no TBC in this VCR. I have test captures from the same tape section from a HR-S8600 as well with the TBC on and some other devices.

@@analogvideochannel4612 If you can upload the test, it will be interesting to compare the quality of the USB cards fed with (line) corrected signal versus vhs-decode and DVD-R recorder with no (line)TBC active in VCR

Here, someone uploaded it to archive.org: archive.org/details/manual_SLC5E_SM_SONY

Yeah maybe it wasn't clear enough in the video but it's SP only for video, but it can play and record hi-fi audio (with no video) in LP mode. I also Have Luxor and Nokia that are 2-3 years newer (both 2 head mono) with the newer variant of this mechanism but those have a bunch of issues (including capstan belt) but haven't gotten one of them to work well enough yet. (Also have a newer Luxor VCR4786 that works fine but that one and the corresponding Nokia variant is made by Sharp rather than Sanyo.)

@@analogvideochannel4612 Cool, also could you make a video on the Luxor VCR4786? I am a really big fan of Luxor products and there is very little info of luxor online since their products was only sold in small numbers outside Scandinavia

@@SwedishRetroTechNerd Yeah I intend to make a video showing off that (and many other VCRs) eventually.

@@analogvideochannel4612 Thanks really excited to see the Luxor reviewd Luxor is my favorite brand, Luxor is one of those things that makes me a proud suede

Oh I don't have any issue with talking, this was just a short demo clip. I do that in the other vcr videos, will make a longer overview of this vcr too at some point. Have another one of a Fisher VCR on the way, just need to finish it up.

I'm not sure, the early 90s Sony 8mm camcorders are notorious for having surface mounted capacitors inside that leak and eventually corrode and ruin the circuit boards if left long enough. And, since everything is super compact it can be a pain to repair them so unless you want spend a bunch of time and energy to try to fix one up yourself it might be difficult to find one that has been serviced or is properly working. The later models from around 94 (not sure exact year) and on or something don't have this issue.

@@analogvideochannel4612 i like the ccd-f/v models because they have the superimposer, but i wonder if any sony models from 1994 onward have one? if you know any models that have a superimposer lemme know

I used four of these when they were new from 1990-93: the CCD-V900, CCD-V700 and CCD-V800. Even when new, they were fragile machines that broke down often if you used them much. Typically I had to take mine in for servicing every three months. Considering they were that fragile when new from the factory, I wouldn't recommend using them now - after 30 years! Capacitors weren't a problem when they were new, but the heads would easily clog and the mechanically complicated tape loading mechanism would also have problems sometimes. On one of them the image sensor burned out and had to be replaced. I loved them at the time (they were the best thing available in the "prosumer" market) but wouldn't want to use one now.

What inputs does your TV have? You will need a BNC->RCA adapter to plug the video output into most TVs. You may need a composite -> scart adapter if the TV doesn't have a separate plug for composite. If the TV does not have SCART either you will need a composite to HDMI dongle.

Just get a crt and plug it into, the picture is going to look really bad on a flat screen since they aren't designed for old machines like this

I think it uses the standard early 90s consumer camcorder sony batteries but no idea where to find ones that aren't dead.

Np-77 for example

@@karate_official Okay cool thx

Jupp, det var problemet.

The splitter is separate, the hdmi capture card ias a Avermedia U3. I prefer capturing to interlaced, the build in deinterlacer is meh.

I don't have the tape unfortunately. It was something we got in for digitizing where I used to work together with other tapes and has long been returned to the owner. I can send you the raw capture if you want though. UA-cam killed the quality a bit with compression, should have uploaded in higher res but didn't know at the time.

@@analogvideochannel4612 How big the raw footage? Can it be sent over the cloud?

@@Capturing-Memories about 4.6 Gb when compressing with ffv1+flac, can send it via google drive probably, should maybe put it on the internet archive as well.

@@analogvideochannel4612 Are they AVI files? Would HuffYUV be better? I will be contacting you with an email address.

Go ahead and buy it! I bought a ccd-f350E and im 13! Sadly all of these camcorders from the start to 1994 had bad capacitors, but i will replace them!

The remotes seem cross-compaible with my slightly older JVC decks (e.g HR-J658) for the VCR side, not sure about the DVD side as I've never really used that. I think, though can't say for 100% sure, that a remote from any 90s/2000s mid-mounted and combo JVC VCR would be compatible (The remotes from Philips branded decks that are made by JVC do not as far as I know). The newer mid 2000s low/mid-range models and combos that are rebadged LG and the 80s vcrs decks may be using a different remote protocols but not sure as I haven't used any of those.

thank you RON.

Heh, my parents bought a mono NV-SD230 a few years later than this test, which is what I grew up with. Mono recorders were made into the early 2000s at least.

@@analogvideochannel4612 I got a funai combo unit from 2004 that is mono lmao, well the vcr is mono and the dvd player is stereo for some dumb reason

Ask away!

Yup, I do video transfers in Norway, and I see the same thing. SVHSC is quite rare compared to Hi8.

I've found that the SVHS tapes I have from the same time frame as the Hi8 tapes I have (1990-93) have aged badly and have distorted color while the Hi8 tapes have maintained image quality.

What about a little Hi8 Vs SVHS? ua-cam.com/video/v_S2Nf-V5s8/v-deo.html