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Upgrading your snare drum collection - the first steps
My suggestions for students (and others) looking to make their first upgrades from a student-level snare drum, whether this means one good snare drum, a few complimentary snare drums, or additional drums. Emphasis placed on gathering a complimentary set of drums, to cover as much sonic territory as possible with as few drums as possible.
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EDITOR'S NOTE: I may need to make a follow-up video, because I forgot one thing - such a glaring oversight that I almost want to redo this video.
The goal is to get as much variety as possible from a limited number of snare drums. In making the video as it currently stands, I got caught up in the gear, in the thought that to get a different sound, you need a different drum, that buying a same or similar drum would be a mistake.
Not so fast.
There are many snare drums that offer a variety of sounds through head choices, tuning, et cetera. If you have such a drum, and you don't want to find yourself constantly changing heads and returning? Get another one of those drums, and set the two of them up differently to produce those distinct sounds. Mission accomplished!
And now, back to the video...
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Discussions:
0:11 Overview/introduction
3:47 "One good snare drum..."
11:04 "One wood snare drum, one metal snare drum..." (Part 1: the metal drum)
15:44 "One wood snare drum, one metal snare drum..." (Part 2: the wood drum)
20:07 "Beyond the initial choices..." (Part 1: a shallower drum)
26:26 "Beyond the initial choices..." (Part 2: a deeper drum)
Playing demonstrations:
10:02 6x14 Tempus fibreglass
14:36 5.5x14 Yamaha steel (1980s)
18:52 5x14 maple (10-ply Keller shell)
25:10 4x14 Legend phosphor bronze
30:16 8x14 Tempus carbon fibre
Related videos of mine:
In Praise of Six-lug Snare Drums
ua-cam.com/video/vDmL_hNipz8/v-deo.html
In Praise of 15" and 16" Snare Drums
ua-cam.com/video/bL5G7Rpqh18/v-deo.html
My Favorite Metal-shell Snare Drums
ua-cam.com/video/EJxze2Y9pJU/v-deo.html
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  • @jonathanbrody4119
    @jonathanbrody4119 3 дні тому

    Really nice snare drum I’m with you I made one from an old pearl all fiberglass 14” tom drum shell it’s pretty thin but I think sounds fabulous I agree to me it does have a combination of a wood and metal drum plus its just fun to do that Legend snare is killer I really enjoy your channel thx for the content

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 3 дні тому

    Great video Jim! Really solid advice on not jumping right into the weeds of exotic differences. One note; as soon as I heard that red Tempus it took me right back to my first case of snare drum "Gottahavititus"! It still has a special place in my collection.

  • @malletjazz
    @malletjazz 5 днів тому

    (In making this video, I missed something obvious. I added this note to the description, but I'm posting it in the comments section as well.) EDITOR'S NOTE: I may need to make a follow-up video, because I forgot one thing - such a glaring oversight that I almost want to redo this video. The goal is to get as much variety as possible from a limited number of snare drums. In making the video as it currently stands, I got caught up in the gear, in the thought that to get a different sound, you need a different drum, that buying a same or similar drum would be a mistake. Not so fast. There are many snare drums that offer a variety of sounds through head choices, tuning, et cetera. If you have such a drum, and you don't want to find yourself constantly changing heads and retuning? Get another one of those same drums, and set the two of them up differently to produce those distinct sounds. Mission accomplished!

    • @aakkoin
      @aakkoin 2 дні тому

      Yea! I read that someone has like three Ludwig Acrolytes, all with different heads and different tunings.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 2 дні тому

      @@aakkoin I remember reading a JR Robinson interview years ago. He talked about taking three of his signature series snare drums to studio dates, but with each one set up differently.

  • @MrGlenLane
    @MrGlenLane 5 днів тому

    Needs more snare...

  • @camerondean6804
    @camerondean6804 5 днів тому

    Good to see you back.

  • @kevinleblanc47
    @kevinleblanc47 6 днів тому

    We need more Cowbell.....

  • @eduardv2131
    @eduardv2131 6 днів тому

    💃🏽🕺🏽

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 7 днів тому

    JCR pairs are my favorites. Sooo many good ones though.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 7 днів тому

      The jopa/jcr combo is nice, too.

  • @DaelTijerina
    @DaelTijerina 8 днів тому

    Very skilled!

  • @Spade3725
    @Spade3725 8 днів тому

    Did you make up this rhythm on your own?

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 8 днів тому

      Thank you for asking! No, that rhythm is not my creation. I should give credit where credit is due: I heard the bell pattern in a youtube video by Edgardo Cambon; he presents it just after the 17 minute mark in this video: ua-cam.com/video/vwBbhD2g01U/v-deo.html

  • @jukesjointOG
    @jukesjointOG 2 місяці тому

    What an *awesome* observation and adaptation!! Little musical things like that make so much difference. I remember seeing Steve Gadd explaining how he tries to match his ride cymbal attack and sustain with however the bass player is playing the notes. Not just the groove, but note for note phrasing. Wait… what??

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 2 місяці тому

      I remember the first time I saw/heard Airto do this cross-stick technique in one of his instructional videos. It wasn't even the focus at that moment, it just was the way he was playing the groove. I must have rewound the tape five or six times to check out what he was doing.

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG 2 місяці тому

      @@malletjazz I stumbled on your video doing a re-dive on Airto. There’s so much there; listening to him sing, play percussion, drumset, or all of it at once!

  • @Sunriseblues5150
    @Sunriseblues5150 3 місяці тому

    If im not mistaking, nowdays Gadd uses 8 rivets on the bottom hihat cymbal .. Zildjian A Custom hihat .. and I'm thinking of doing the same .. hm but i cant figure out whats the magic behind it..

  • @camerondean6804
    @camerondean6804 3 місяці тому

    Is there a model number on the Yamaha 6.5 x 14 Copper snare? Thank you.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 3 місяці тому

      6.5x14 Yamaha copper: SD6106 In case anyone is wondering: 5.5x14 Yamaha brass: SD4105

    • @camerondean6804
      @camerondean6804 3 місяці тому

      ​@@malletjazzThank you and have a great day.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 3 місяці тому

      @@camerondean6804 If you're looking for one, I wish you all the best with your search!

    • @elizabethelzey6554
      @elizabethelzey6554 3 місяці тому

      @@malletjazz @camerondean6804 I looked literally forever for one, but theres two 6106's on Reverb right now.

    • @camerondean6804
      @camerondean6804 3 місяці тому

      @@malletjazz I found one. $1K. They obviously know what they have. 🙃

  • @tombrenes2411
    @tombrenes2411 3 місяці тому

    Wow this is funny . . . I never cared for brands JUST SOUND no $$ for mics all natural acoustic sound The best of the best for me after going to shows getting left overs of studios, all over the LA area and Pro drum. The only 2 snares on my kit . . The same brass Yamaha you showed 1 in 6 1/2 and her beautiful sister 14 x 3 I’ll never get rid of it Awesome content. Thanks again

  • @tombrenes2411
    @tombrenes2411 3 місяці тому

    No one talks about over sized or true 14 snares Me I thick cast 14 x5 hand file just so the head is tight superb sound but sling flange 12 lug with 12 tiny holes to vent When every pro Siri’s down on my kit . . . . Don’t ask not 4 sale I’ll hand make it at a foundry

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 5 місяців тому

    Man I love the low wash and “Crunchy” ping of the SCDR!

  • @johnnymb100
    @johnnymb100 5 місяців тому

    Ive got 6 8 and 10 luggers. They all have their place. But i LOVE my 60s mij 6 lug snares. Some w/ triple flange some w/ diecast. They pop. Nice and dry with a fat crack. Never paid more than $50 for one. Cant beat it.

  • @PatrickWitherow
    @PatrickWitherow 6 місяців тому

    I've got WFL six lug snares from the late 40's and '50's - ranging from 5.5 - 6.5x14 - they all sound really good. I find they have a bit more low-end punch/crack compared to my 8 and 10 lug snares. Some of the best sounding six lug snares I've played are the 1920's (and earlier) Ludwig 2-pc brass shell snares. My 4x14 and 6.5x14 both sound much bigger than they look. Really awesome instruments.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 6 місяців тому

      I've never played one, but I would be curious to try one out: if I'm not mistaken, I've seen photos of some brass snare drums from that era, six lugs, but 15" in diameter!

    • @PatrickWitherow
      @PatrickWitherow 6 місяців тому

      @@malletjazz Yes, they had 14” and 15” models. My three are all 14”.

  • @poketchu959
    @poketchu959 7 місяців тому

    heads ?

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 7 місяців тому

      Remo Fiberskyn Diplomat batter, Ambassador snare side

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 7 місяців тому

      I talk more about the drum in this video: ua-cam.com/video/EJxze2Y9pJU/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=245

  • @jeffholmes2459
    @jeffholmes2459 8 місяців тому

    Sounds really cool

  • @jeffholmes2459
    @jeffholmes2459 8 місяців тому

    You’re the man !!!!!

  • @davidwenzel8366
    @davidwenzel8366 11 місяців тому

    I was just talking to my son about music and how I used to love watching my friend Jim play drums before classes at GMHS, and regret not staying in touch with some of my classmates. The skills are the same, but are you the guy? Subscribed either way, my whole life I’ve mentioned how Jim could keep us tapping and snapping all on his own and THAT was a musician.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 11 місяців тому

      Yes, it is I - fellow member, Class of 1984. It's good to hear from you, and thank you for the very kind words. I hope things are going well in your corner of the world.

    • @markmahoney5255
      @markmahoney5255 11 місяців тому

      Newer Bettis ride? Sounds killer! Great to see the concert clip in here. I’ve always enjoyed the tune on your album.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, I picked it up a couple of years ago at - of all places - GC in Danbury. Makes me wish I could have picked up those Bettis hi-hats you sold a while back.

  • @singingdane3916
    @singingdane3916 11 місяців тому

    Excellent musician and teacher.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 11 місяців тому

      Thank you - that's very kind.

  • @DrummerPainterDogNutPGH
    @DrummerPainterDogNutPGH Рік тому

    Your content is always appreciated sir.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      Thank you, Michael - I appreciate that!

  • @RimshotsandNamaste
    @RimshotsandNamaste Рік тому

    And what it had diecast hoops? (I understand they are quite sturdy)

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      I've never tried a die cast hoop on a six-lug snare drum - primarily because I don't see many 14" 6-hole DC hoops for sale. (I know Pearl offers a 14" 12-hole hoop, which would fit on a six-lug snare by using every other hole, but they're fairly expensive.) My guess would be that the less flexible nature of a die cast hoop would minimize what one gets with a triple- or single-flanged hoop. It would be an experiment worth trying.

    • @RimshotsandNamaste
      @RimshotsandNamaste Рік тому

      @@malletjazz haha I got one! From a tama superstar "hyperdrive" They are quite common: all their 14" "floor tom" (looks more of a tom with 3 legs.. Anyways..lol) come with a 6 lugs die cast. Hope it shed a light ;)

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      @@RimshotsandNamaste Good to know - thanks for the tip! Frankly, it surprised me that I hadn't been able to find any 14/6 die-cast hoops.

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 Рік тому

    I’ve always dug “Rhyme Or Reason” such a good CD with a great variety tunes.

  • @mark-remanHamilton
    @mark-remanHamilton Рік тому

    For a pro, lighter and quicker to change heads. That's the bottom line. Most people and machines cannot tell the difference.

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 Рік тому

    Plays it, love it. Beaver tails and single flanged give it a nice classic look.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      I still need to lend you the ash 14x6.5 I put together last year. I think I like it even more than this birch.

  • @markmahoney5255
    @markmahoney5255 Рік тому

    Proof that just because a drum has six lugs doesn’t mean it a budget drum that sounds like a box tacks👍🏻

  • @DrummerKeithScott
    @DrummerKeithScott Рік тому

    Great sounding drums.

  • @KaiOwensDrums
    @KaiOwensDrums Рік тому

    Very cool, surprised how good the snare response is when it’s fully open. I would’ve thought the interaction between heads is minimal

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      Thanks, Kai. I agree - the snare response was one of the biggest surprises when I finally got this drum assembled. The other was the undertone that comes out when the shell is opened up - I didn't expect that at all.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      Once the new school year starts, I may sign out the recital hall for an hour or two and make a recording of this drum in a larger space, versus the little corner of my house that I used for this video.

    • @KaiOwensDrums
      @KaiOwensDrums Рік тому

      @@malletjazz really cool! Look forward to it

  • @camerondean6804
    @camerondean6804 Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you. Absolutely a fan of 6 and 8 lug snares. Every snare sounded great. Great tuning.

  • @KirksDrumRoom
    @KirksDrumRoom Рік тому

    I would LOVE to see this type of content in long form videos!

  • @KirksDrumRoom
    @KirksDrumRoom Рік тому

    Jim, those are some GREAT sounding snare drums. Fun video.

  • @trevorwilliamsmusic
    @trevorwilliamsmusic Рік тому

    That’s a sweet voicing!

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 Рік тому

    I recently bought a 1990´s Tama Starclassic, in 12" and has only 6 lugs. It is second hand so I have to change the heads, but are there any specific recommendations regarding this lug count for this tiny size?

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz Рік тому

      Thanks for commenting! Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with Tama drums, so I don't have a recommendation for your drum specifically. (I have nothing against Tama drums - I like the ones I've played but I just haven't played many of them.) Whether 14" or 12", I tend to choose the same heads for six-lug snare drums that I'd use for drums with eight or ten lugs. Usually, that's a single-ply coated head, although I do have a 6-lug 12" snare (a drum I put together myself, using a maple shell) and after a bit of experimenting I found that an Evans EC2 works really well on it.

  • @G-okane
    @G-okane Рік тому

    Good stuff 🤩🔥

  • @steverichdrummr
    @steverichdrummr Рік тому

    All 3 sound just wonderful, nice job on the builds sir. Love them all.

  • @KirksDrumRoom
    @KirksDrumRoom Рік тому

    That drum sounds great! I'd love to hear it in person. 🥁

  • @bobby_edit-r15
    @bobby_edit-r15 Рік тому

    Ty For the Advice ❤

  • @theotherty2
    @theotherty2 Рік тому

    Keep making good stuff.

  • @ibleebinU
    @ibleebinU Рік тому

    Most of my vintage Slingerland Snare drums have 8 lugs. However, I have one 6 lug snare but they're all maple/poplar/maple. Big surprise but they all sound very similar. The whole student/pro thing is marketing. I totally agree with your findings on the fatter sound on the 6 lug design.

  • @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah
    @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah Рік тому

    I have 2 snare drums. My wood Sonar is 10 lug... My Premier is 8 lug steel. The Wood 10 lug is tuned lower, 'cause it dose not sound good tuned high. The metal 8 lug, is tuned REAL HIGH, and does not sound good tuned low. It has cast hoops so maybe that's why? IMHO

  • @Madchad6969
    @Madchad6969 Рік тому

    It’s hard to high ture six lug s mv are

  • @kjamespeace
    @kjamespeace Рік тому

    Thanks for this personal view of "Bolero"! LIKE number 21 from Germany!

  • @saulhudson302
    @saulhudson302 2 роки тому

    Very nice at the end with the medium light , strong Sizzle with the drumsticks and accents , at least I can hear it. Very good sound. Sabian had HH Rock Sizzle Hats which were their best back in 88-89.The darker HH sound with high frequency stainless steel rivets was wonderful.

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 2 роки тому

      Brilliant! I was so focused on finding a darker cymbal, I completely overlooked the option of brighter-sounding rivets.

    • @saulhudson302
      @saulhudson302 2 роки тому

      @@malletjazz Hi dude , you got me right into the hi hat rivet thing again after 10 years not worrying cause I can and still hear the Rivets on my Sabian 14" Sizzle hats. Though I've 2 types of rivets now , 1 are the old fashioned ones where you hammer one side , the other's I got yesterday from the hardware store Bifurcated rivets cheap 20 for 5 bucks. Sabian emailed saying they don't use the old rivets anymore but use Bifurcated ones , saying the produce better results. Can't wait to try them. Anyway check my Sabians out I did I vid of 14" Sizzle Hats Review today " Saul Hudson Channel 🥁

  • @Ranger1216
    @Ranger1216 2 роки тому

    …Six luggers will really surprise you….Ludwig Pioneer can really fit in many situations! Fully agree…..

  • @rogerrisley3492
    @rogerrisley3492 2 роки тому

    I too have a 16 inch snare Looking for snare wires? I could only find 15 inch snare wires I’m still in the process of refurbishment Thx Rog

    • @malletjazz
      @malletjazz 2 роки тому

      Hi, Roger, Snares for 16" drums are available at Drum Factory Direct. Here's the link: www.drumfactorydirect.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_104_374_75&products_id=12028 (Memo to anyone, including youtube: I don't have any personal or professional affiliation with Drum Factory Direct; I'm just a customer.)

    • @rogerrisley3492
      @rogerrisley3492 2 роки тому

      @@malletjazz thank you

  • @BishopEddie5443
    @BishopEddie5443 2 роки тому

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @BenjaminFrock
    @BenjaminFrock 2 роки тому

    this is really cool. thanks for doing this