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Hi i'm Barrie from Music Tech Info. As I am really passionate about Music, Tech, Crypto Space, NFT's I wanted to create a new youtube channel exploring NFT Platforms, Music NFT's as well as other subjects such as AI.
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NFT's have grown and more and more platforms are now coming onboard so please consider subscribing to be kept up to date.
With 40 NFT platforms covered and 10 AI platforms covered, this is the best place to be kept up to date if you are interested in music technology.
www.MusicTechInfo.com
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SUNO - Uploading Rough Demo's to Create New Tracks
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Apologies for the audio echo on this video.
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Thanks
what is the purpose of uploading? it literally creates a whole new song
This is why we need more updates :)
Anyone know how to play a song in a specific note or say in minor?
You can try the prompt but I’m not convinced it would always work
That is an amazing arrangement of your tune. It would of taken so long to produce that. But do you own the copyright or can someone use your melody lyrics. I’m not sure what the legal arrangement is once it’s produced, do you then own it?
It depends on the legislation of the country that you are in. A lot are figuring this out but you would own the copyright of the original content that you made yourself but anything new that the ai tool has done, maybe not
@@musictechinfo Great video thank you for doing your best to answer my question.
I also started with Suno, but I found there was too much multi-tracking and distortion; whereas UDIO was mostly crisp and clear. Unfortunately, the credit yield on UDIO is only about 20% (Credit Yield = 1/ number of generations), which is why I decided to try SUNO again.
*NONE OF THESE ISSUES WORRY ME WHATSOEVER... AS A SONGWRITER MYSELF OF OVER 40 YEARS... I HAVE WRITTEN OVER 2500 SONGS IN MY LIFETIME... I HAVE BEEN USING SUNO'S NEW EXTEND FEATURE FOR 3 DAYS NOW... TO BE HONEST... I AM COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY... I FINISHED OFF ONE OF MY MANY MANY UNFINISHED SONGS IN LESS THAN 6 HOURS... THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY... I AM NOW MAKING A MUSIC VIDEO FOR IT... AND THEN ONTO THE NEXT SONG... THIS IS SURELY A GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE... I ABSOLUTELY LOVE WHAT IT HAS DONE WITH MY MUSIC... UNREAL... I HAVE YET TO TRY UDIO'S EXTEND ABILITY COMPARED TO SUNO'S... BUT I WILL ... SOON... FACT... GREAT VIDEO BRO*
Thanks :) amazing huge catalogue. Do you have your music available anywhere for fans? Such as a vault?
@@musictechinfo *TY MY FRIEND FOR THE KIND WORDS... I DO... I HAVE SOME OF MY MUSIC ON THIS ACCOUNT... APPLEPITZ... BUT MY MAIN PAGE FOR MY MUSIC FOR MY BAND IMAGI-NATION CAN BE FOUND ON MY KLOWNFIST CHANNEL... THAT IS WHERE I WILL BE POSTING THE SONG I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN I FINISH THE MUSIC VIDEO FOR IT... THE SONG IS CALLED... "WHAT ONCE WAS"... AND I HAD THAT SONG SITTING AROUND UNFINISHED FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS... AND THANKS TO SUNO'S HELP... I AM NOW RELEASING IT... AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CRITICS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT USING AI TO GENERATE PARTS OR LOOPS OR WHATEVER... TUFF TITTIES... I ENJOY THE SH*T OUT IT... AND THE RESULTS ARE JUST INCREDIBLE... CAN NOT WAIT TO SHOW IT OFF... FACT*
[C: even if I try that, they just makes a whole new song instead od extending.. what do i do😢]
It can be hit and miss. Takes quite a few generations. Can’t remember if they have manual mode but try different custom settings.
Mind that whatever you upload to suno, you agree to the terms of service that your track will be used for training the algorithm..
Thanks to Suno... the AI generates fantastic music... top in almost all areas and super fast... in contrast to UDIO, which has other strengths... in any case, my SHizzzo radio works great with SUNO
I’ve started messing around with Suno this week and I have barely slept lol. I write and produce, but I don’t rap or sing, so I have been literally sitting on 100s of songs. This has been a godsend!!!!
Excellent 👌
But do they own the copyright to your songs once you load them up? I’m in a similar position where I have loads of demos etc.
I didn't realize Suno allowed uploading, this changes everything!
:)
An absolute game changer. Especially for me as a producer and writer who doesn’t sing or rap!!! I upload a portion of one of my beats. Put lyrics in and a prompt and BOOM a complete song in seconds. With an amazing vocal performance!!!
I've got literally thousands and thousands of unfinished ideas and demos like that. I sometimes thought to hear my voice, so thank you for being so brave to share your demo's. And I appreciate your opinion that AI is just a tool that creates opportunities to inspire us and help us to complete our own creativity. What most people forget in this AI copyright strike is that this is not about copyright. You cannot copyright a chord progression or an arrangement or a way of playing or mixing an instrument. Not even a typical genre, subgenre or artist's style. All human artists are trained on thousands of hours of music that we listened too during our lives. Subconsciously or consciously, we all bring those influences into our own work. Not to mention that most of us at least started trying to sound like our idols, right? As far as I know, only a melody including its rhythm can be copyrighted. Also when it's a groove like the intros of eye of the tiger or smoke on the water. So if we bring our own melodies (and perhaps lyrics) into these AI programs, what comes out is still OUR music, not Suno's, not the artists' that Suno has been trained on. Yes, the programs have glitches where there are obviously too many similarities falling under plagiarism, and it's good that the program deletes these renditions or better should warn us that we cannot publish and/or monetize these renditions.
Thanks so much for your comments :) I agree subconsciously I’m inspired by The Human League, and Depeche Mode when I write music or Idols have huge influence in our minds. The labels are suing because they want to use their own AI tools 🧰 in house.
you can waste time using AI like that ( as a "tool " ) but by the time you do one song like that , millions of people would have generated millions of "songs" creating an unprecedented amount of noise . Even if you manage to get better than a song generated from a simple text prompt , it won't make a difference you will be lost in the noise . The only positive is that we are starting to see a lot of people mocking those who pretend to " create " with simplistic text prompts , it feels a little bit like what happened with NFTs
Well it’s already like this in the music industry even before AI so it depends how you look at it. I agree NFTs appear to have died of death whether they will make a return is yet to be seen.
@@musictechinfo there srems to be an obsession of comparing AI to much smaller things that happened in the past , we are about to face an unprecedented situation .... whatever is happening now is about to get much much much worse
Congratulations AI can already argue better than you. ChatGPT : "The argument presented has some logical flaws and does not align with the current understanding and interpretation of US copyright law. Here are the key points to consider: Fair Use Doctrine: *The fair use doctrine allows limited use of copyrighted material without permission under certain conditions, which include the purpose and character of the use, the nature of the copyrighted work, the amount and substantiality of the portion used, and the effect of the use on the potential market. *For human artists, fair use typically applies in situations like criticism, commentary, education, and research, where the use is transformative and does not harm the market for the original work. In summary, the argument that AI companies should be able to use copyrighted training data freely because human artists do not need commercial licenses for their influences is not logically sound under US law. The contexts of human artistic influence and AI training are significantly different, particularly in terms of the nature of use and the potential market impact. Therefore, AI companies cannot necessarily claim the same liberties that human artists might have when it comes to using copyrighted material."
You can hear the feedback noise that Suno loves to add to destroy every song it makes.
Great video. Thank you! Ive been really impressed with Suno … although it is a bit too much of a black box at times…it’s like working with a partner that does what they want! plus looming lawsuits has spooked me from using it.
Thanks 🙏 appreciate that. I agree it has a mind of its own :)
I've been using their program for a long time pretty much since they came out feel free to check out what I made
Hey am going to be the first comment on your video i haven't release any music since July of last year, why you ask because the DSPS is Robbing me i have 5 albums Release to date, but like every one else, am not getting what i should be getting, So am thinking of going Directly to my supporters.
It can be more work that just using DSPs but it’s more rewarding. Just putting your music on sites like Bandcamp is easy, creating funnels and email automations are more complex.
If I have my lyrics and i want to put my voice how can i do it
Use something likes kits.ai which would work better
To me its just a gimmick if you cant get high quality stems...a fun gimmick tho
Can I create songs from Suno or any other Ai and submit them to Routenote? Will they approve it?
Yes you can they may reach out to you and say it’s not eligible for content ID but they can share AI tracks to streaming services for you
@@musictechinfo thanks
This brings back the age old discussion of property rights verses education and learning. Is the knowledge we received from school my knowledge? Do i own it, or is it leased to me because i was not the original creator of it.
when it all goes to court that’s when we find out who wins
the hacker manifesto speaks about "things that could be free if not for profiteering gluttons" its a good way to antagonize hackers imo as well.
Thanks for the video! It's a shame you didn't export the full version of one of the songs, so that we could listen to how your uploaded part and the AI part transition (this was the thing I was more curious about)
More on the way
thank you for your help
Glad it helped
When I uploaded a piece of classical piano played by my own, I received this message "Uploaded audio matches existing work of art". Why is classical music still copyrighted?
Most classical music is copyrighted
@@musictechinfo Suno seems unable to distinguish my own recordings from recordings previously made by other artists.
The irony...a machine that is stealing from artists tells you, you cant use copyrighted stuff
@@musictechinfoexcept when. It isn't
Is my SUNO song an M-N-M thing? I released it. ua-cam.com/video/w-bp8fCDXxY/v-deo.htmlsi=KOaw5BLLfolv9w1i
how about vocal only?? can it created the background music??
You would have to try it
What's unfair about this that you have to be a pro for premium shit in order to upload audio. That was bullshit and sad for me 😢 😭
It was their inspiration that created A.I if they would just take our songs and make a hit out of it, we wouldn't be resorting to Band In a Box and Suno.
Popcorn
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Not bad at all
Thanks
I suspect this is a power play to get some of the revenue from these companies via an out of court settlement. Might be a revenue sharing deal for passive income for the labels from subscriptions paid to the companies by consumers. I don’t think they actually believe AI will damage the industry because they asked that the music be licensed. You aren’t going to license something if you actually think there is potential damage. But if it goes to trial, perhaps we’ll finally get a ruling on whether or not the training is fair use as that’s the claim being made and their argument really isn’t a bad one. If a person intentionally attempts to duplicate a song, that’s on the user, not the AI platform.
The companies have already put in their claim as of yesterday against Suno and Udio so we are in very interesting times to see how it goes ;)
can you make parodys with this ai. example (take a normal song mary had a little lamb) and then keep the song keep the voice keep everything but make the words differnt gary had a obease ham like that can you with aiva?
It’s hard to keep the song but you may get it to generate similar. If you put the prompt as Mary had a little lamb and change the lyrics then that’s the best chance, if not you could try the upload feature :)
@@musictechinfo thanks 👍
Any musician can use this as a great base platform to build songs from
Agree it’s amazing creativity
@@musictechinfo yes I can see how this could take a guitar and vocal and turn it into a great demo, many songwriters can’t afford to pay for session musicians and producers, many songwriters don’t have the resources and time to pay for expensive demos, especially if they’re prolific songwriters.
As someone who’s being making music since Reason 2.5, I can say for sure that AI will take over. For me it’s better than using DAWs haha.
The results are really impressive
All due respect - junk in, junk out!
Agreed that’s why I just uploaded rubbish demos my proper music is very different :)
Musicians are weak and passive. Ai allows non musicians to become fake musicians. They imagine they’re creating something. Ai is here. Musicians have been creating lame stupid processed music that’s easy to replicate. That’s what has been modeled. Although I’m very impressed with how well it copies different genre. Consumers don’t care, they haven’t heard anything new or different, they have zero clue.
Interesting pov
If WMG wins this case than Steinway is going to sue every sampler company such like AKAI / Roland , that created similar piano sounds , and TAMA is going to sue every drum computer on earth that sounds similar to their drum set. And Mercedes’ is going to sue BMW. for similar cars. Than the best of all , Mick Jagger is going to sue EVERY rockband on the planet that sounds a bit similar. OK and Grand master flash is going to use EVERY rapper on earth. Let’s see how far they get with their money cases , funny that Sonauto does the same AI but does not get any lawsuit , too little money to get from there.
Yes I’ve feature Sonauto and it’s Gone unnoticed. Start with the big fish and work their way down perhaps
No surprise Spotify scooped that up...
Ahh my money 😂 What if you train real people on other peoples music . Anyways .
I know very true
There's no money in music for musicians anyways.😝 Industry is the only suffering I can see from Ai music. So... Go Ai generative music.🥰
:)
If I remember correctly, the majors initially fought against cassettes, cds, mini-disks, peer-to-peer, streaming etc. They have a great track record of slowing progress until they figure out how to monetize it.
Exactly 👍
yeah , one year from now its actually going to be over
Yep I’m very aware that this could be the case. Possibly enjoy it while it lasts
What do you think is going to be over?
Yeah, both are great, but they're both so different. But, to put how I feel in short: Udio for quality and Suno for creativity... and I'm not sure how Udio handles this, but in Suno, your tracks are private unless you MAKE them public... so I use Suno for ideas... whether it's just creating a solo piano piece and using the notes in my own track or it's uploading a loop I make in my DAW and listening to the musical ideas that Suno spits out and either recreating them in my DAW or getting inspired by it to create something new... either way, I hope AI music is here to stay and is continually improved
Thanks for the info and glad you are enjoying the technology :)
It wasn’t that long ago artists had to gather their own natural pigments and blend them together with animal fat, saliva, egg, or oils as a binding agent in order to paint. Then, technology allowed tubes of paint to be manufactured which gave artists new freedoms to roam outside the studio and paint in new ways. I feel AI technology will offer the same type of freedoms to modern audio artists…allowing them to create music in new unimaginable ways.
Agreed. 👍
Oh yeah, it’s “possible” ?.. they are training and stealing. Lots of naïveté happening.
Thanks Barry 👍
Very welcome
great video, maybe upgrade the PC so the frames don't drop out as much... but content wise, great video! ... oh and the reason the generations kept the name Acid Track 2 is that you didn't change the Title box before you clicked Extend each time
Hi, I used to have an M1 MacBook Air and now use a M3 MacBook Air and it’s still the same problem. It’s so annoying as I don’t know it’s happening until I finish recording. It could be because I use Chrome. Ah yes I always forget to change the title :)
This is all well and good but why aren’t you telling people in your videos that once you upload your music, that suno and udio can then spit versions of it out to other users who can then claim it as their own. Or instead of just saying how great ai music is also tell people that you cannot copyright any music you create on these platforms
Because I am not an official spokesperson. I explained in that video I wasn’t going into other items. If you check my other videos you will see I have already discussed copyright issues. In terms of Suno and Udio it is their job to inform the public on these items. The video was about the upload feature and not every debatable topic with AI music and how it will be affecting the music industry.
This is a powerful song writing tool. The actual tracks it makes are just versions. You can take anything you want from it and use it to build your own songs. It's an endless bag of ideas and inspiration.
10:10 amazning!
Thanks
Are they training their AI system further on these uploaded works?
I have wondered the same thing and there is no mention of it. However to improve the model further then it may be required at some point. I’m also not certain Whether we will find this out either
I’ve got mixed feelings about this whole ai thing, however I do like this feature as it lets you build off of ideas you may have scrapped. Great information. Thanks for the upload
I am the same. Amazing tool but now anyone is a musician. Appreciate it :)