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TheWBunn
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A collection of videos and films from any time, any place and any where. Basically anything that i discovery that people will want to see.
Hickstead All-weather facilities
A video of the all weather schooling and training facilities at Hickstead.
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Show jumping in the 1960's Featuring Hickstead and Douglas Bunn
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A look at Show jumping in the 1960's featuring Douglas Bunn buying his famous horse Beethoven. Beethoven remains to this day the only British horse to ever be crowned World Champion, when David Broome rode him to victory at La Baule in 1970. This footage is now over 50 years old, and according to the 1991 Copyright act now falls under the public domain.
No helmet, and some of those horses had no saddle pad. 🙁
J'adore le camion et son vernis impeccable.
I need the brown horse transporter! 😍
It was good to myself in this short film, I am the very young saddle maker putting the two halves of the saddle together, about 7mins into the film, don't blink otherwise you miss me, David J Radley.filmed at W.H.GIDDEN,1962/3
All these comments about ‘poor horses’ and ‘no saddle pads’. What rubbish! Correctly fitting tack was and is key. The improvements as far as the horse is concerned are lighter poles, shallower cups and frangible fences. I love Douglas’s horse lorry. I miss watching Hickstead on TV. The best showjumping arena in the world. It’s stuck behind a paywall now and I can’t afford it.
Regarding saddle pads or blankets. Show turnout in England was always minus the saddle blanket. And I think hack classes it may still be correct turnout without one. As this was being filmed they are constantly turned out the same as hunter classes or native pony presentation. Smart neat jackets ties waistcoat top boots horse is not plaited
The horse truck (or van) is divine
This made me so happy
Why dont they wear saddlepads?!?!
No one is going to talk about how they dont wear saddle pads?
They've been talking about nothing but!
Comments have become monotonous about no saddle tampons.
No saddle pad that must of been uncomfortable 😬
im sorry, but where did his leg go?! 8:14
8:15 shows how bad those saddles were lmaoo
Those bits tho😭
The lower leg on some of the riders kinda scares me
I feel like the bit was gonna slice through his head😭
5:20 did cars used to drive opposite ways in the 60s?!
Dang if this horse was born now he would’ve been a better champion
Does that make much sense? If you mean because of the advances in techniques and equipment since then, wouldn't his rivals have had access to those too, and so the (metaphorical) distance between him and his rivals would have been the same pro rata?
How could he be more than the world championship he won???
Before saddle pads were invented?
Saddle pads have been around for centuries, but were not considered to be super important back in the day !
@@baysalldays4882 I couldn't imagine riding without one!
@@chellefell1331 Personally, same. Not only are they fashion but they add life to my saddle and stop rubbing haha
@@baysalldays4882 i was just cringing at the friction the poor horse is probably feeling... and if its hot outside, ugh.... but that vintage transport truck i would take alllll day!!! i love that!!
Bro imagine a sidesaddle only costing £50, they cost like £300-400, maybe more if i did my google-ing correct
I wish they were only 300 pounds
how ironic, theres a piano player called Beethoven, a movie abt a ST. Bernard, me wanting to name my new St bernard pup Beethoven and this horse called Beethoven
Loved watching Hickstead! I remember well Ryans son bucking after every jump!
That saddle doesn’t fit him! Sad
omg only 25,000 pounds for a top level horse? 😭 i wish. now top level horses are as much as houses 😭
it's like they didn't count the strides at all.. also 3k for a real champion haha, my friend's sister trains dressage horses and they cost over 50k a horse 😂 for 3k you now get a horse for hacking
Loved the fact Beethoven wouldn’t open his mouth for the vet, never make films with animals & children. Thank goodness there are no more baggy assed breaches that look like they’ll take flight
Why are the riders so bad in this video compared to today?😱 They look out of shape and as if they dont really know what theyre doing
I think that the rider at 3:23 is very decend. The riders today are defenetly not better. It may be that we have a better eye for the horse's comfort. Still I think that showjumping on a wide field is better than on a special riding ground with sand (at least when it isn't too wet) so it is more natural like the fences back then. Also today competition horses are kept inside almost all-day exept for exercise, wich I think is very bad for the horses. In addition, no martingale was used.
@@jochemkoot5808I was just refering to the riders position while jumping
@@jochemkoot5808 The more turnout out you can give a competition horse, the better. It is natural for a horse to walk around nibble and browse, be relaxed and keep the gut moving slowly. 24/7 in a stable is wrong. We owe it to them to keep them sane. They give us so much.
i know it’s low hanging fruit to comment this, but wow the riding in this video is pretty horrendous 😭😭
I agree with you. Most will see "experts" but what I saw is ugly riding : Short reins, a pain bit, sawing the horse's mouth (right/left) and a saddle without other protection. Horses were not meant to jump so high or as far. They only jump if they have to, most often over a small creek or ridge if they are chased by a predator. It results in sprains, bowed tendons, ring bone and dropped fetlocks. His whole weight landing on these tiny two front hooves is very damaging. But the pride of a blue ribbon is more important for these riders. I've seen my share over the years. There is this horseman who is on YT : THINK LIKE A HORSE. This man is full of common sense and has a peculiar sense of humour.
@@chrl4180 i agree with you on a lot of that stuff! but i also believe that jumping isn’t always detrimental to the horse if done correctly. obviously if you don’t have the correct gear, are jumping unsafely, or jumping a horse with medical problems it can be harmful. but i think in most cases jumping is completely fine
AAAHHHH where are the saddle pads?
If you have a well fitted saddle, you shouldn’t need a pad. However, riding without a pad could cause rubbing of the skin, which isn’t good. Saddle pads were originally created to help keep sweat off of the saddle, making have a longer life!
LOL! At Beethoven's first show, on the first jump the riders leg just swings away! How times have changed!
You should see Roger Yves Bost, he is a french rider and he does the same thing with is legs 😅 Terrible to look at
I had no idea they rode without a saddle pad back then that is crazy!
A saddle pad is only there to protect the saddle from the horse sweat. So a horse doesn't need a saddle pad under the saddle.
@@jentehestegal188 You are so wrong
@@billie3811 Why am I so wrong?? Please explain it to me!
@@jentehestegal188 A saddle pad is mainly to keep the riders weight from coming down hard on the horses back that's why pads aren't thin pieces of material
@@billie3811 in this case you are just a bad rider. These big pads under the saddle are used when the saddle fits the horse not 100% perfect. I was talking about the saddle pads (or saddle cloth maybe??), these thin squared pads. Maybe we have a translation misunderstanding here. If I translate saddle pad into my language (german), it means the thin ones you can buy now in nearly every colour you like, with glitter on it or what ever you like.
2:20 LMAO I thought he meant mares *wheeze*
Mr Bunn pulling the most off poor Beethoven ,🤦
I’m very glad that we’ve come far in tack and comfort and bentoven was a great horse he would be even better if we just had the knowledge but we are even better in 2022 and it’s called progress and it’s good 😌
Ignorant comment.
For those wondering, $55 in 1960is equivalent to $543 today. :-)
And now horses that are champions are sold for like 1 mil
You could buy a horse for the price of a private lesson!
Much more classy back then. More respect for horses and less kamakaze.
At 8:14 That poor horse his owners legs were all over the place😞
There is NO saddle pad???
I’ve seen a lot of people commenting about this and yep! Saddle pads aren’t technically needed if the saddle fits properly. It won’t do any major damage HOWEVER, it can rub your horses skin. So, saddle pads were made to help protect the saddle from the horses sweat, and as an added bonus the pad prevents rubbing :)
Now days a saddle pad costs as much as the expensive saddles did back then the horses treats I think are the cheapest thing you can get if you get the small bags of them lol🤣🤣🤣
Not really. You’re forgetting to adjust for inflation.
All the ppl talking about the cost of the saddles it is cheaper when comparing it to now times prices, but at that time that 55 pounds was really expensive. The inflation of economy played a really big role
£3000 for a champion wow I wish it was that price nowadays you can pay £5000 for a unbroken lame horse 😭
£3000 is roughly £70,000 in today's money. Still on the cheap side for a top showjumper though
I cringed when watching the groom put transport bandages on, I wanted to yell “ your gonna cord that colt” then slap that groom in the back of the head. Lol 😆 that’s how I learned
hahaha I came for the comments, the bucking is "nothing" wrong its a fresh young horse, a good trainer letting him be him..... He is happy, never shows uncomfortable issues....... Training a horse, means watching a horse, if you are saying this horse is upset? I'd like to meet you, because you are wrong.......
see how he never repremands him? No whip nothing, in the olden days that was a fresh horse, he is learning, great trainers like this let them be themselves, after all every computition is a partnership, you cant make them unless they want to....
And it's Beethoven, for goodness sake. Famous through his loooong career for his playful bucks and showing off . Happy, fulfilled horse. Grr, you fireside critics.
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Great surprise to look into the past. Thank you for sharing.🐴
Fun. Nice van. He became a great horse. 👍
A horse that bucks like that is uncomfortable or even in pain! A bad girth, pinched nerve, sore mucle, bad rider... so many reasons for that little kick on landing. It's not a sign of "spirit".
Shut up - you know obviously know nothing about Beethoven.