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Glad to have people know that others share that sentiment. I saw other reviews with people saying it stuck the landing and thought "whaaat?" Adolin had a fantastic story, and that really contrasted with other's less than impressive arcs. I was so glad to see his win and that he gave the Alliance a clear victory. I am glad you enjoyed it, your comment also means a lot to me <3

Felt the same, the Ghostblood plot has dragged on for too long and the whole " he is my teacher, will I kill another mentor?" felt very hollow to me.

@@Otomoking Yup, felt it could be completely removed and outside of the impact on the character, It had no meaning for the story itself, very easily could have been saved for another book, as I say.

It's a good book for sure, but lots of weak spots. I am shocked when I see comments of people who say it's their favorite and it stuck the landing. Like...whaat?

@@Otomoking Yeah wild for me to see that too, at best I have mixed feelings about it and at worst, Its Brandon's weakest for me. Felt like there were some rookie mistakes from what is and should be a veteran writer, as you say its not like its a really bad book, its just a whole lot weaker than the previous ones. Sad to say I could see some of the issues starting to crop up in the previous book and they only seem to have gotten worse, here. Hardly no Moash, is baffling to me after he was set up, there really should've been a clash between him and Kal and what was done to Jasnah was a crime, it was out of character for her. Adolin was easily the one of the best characters in this book, with what felt like the most natural and satisfying character progression. There are also too many PoVs I'm gonna be honest.

I made a tier list video of the books and put WaT as lowest. It just didn't have the magic. Moash is becoming less and less of a bridge 4 foe and more... his own thing, which I don't like as much. Jasnah was insanely nerfed just to give Odium a win, that was the biggest mis-fire.

@@Otomoking Yup agreed, even more so when it was proven that Odium was hypocrite by saving his city and people. He proved both Dallinar and Jasnah correct, really felt out of character for Jas. The relationship with wit, also felt unnecessary because it ended just as soon as its confirmed they were together, like what was the point of including that ? Its very Disappointing what Brandon did with her, I'd also rank this as the worst book out of the 5. I didn't feel the magic either, I felt far less invested and immersed in the story than I used to be. It really did feel like Brandon was rushing through things, because he wanted to get the greater plot line of the Cosmere, which cannibalized this books story and characters.

@@XBullitt16X Odium killing his people to remove a weakness was a powerful scene. Like him visiting his family, I was awed. Then it was a fake out, like cmon dude. Agreed on the relationship, we get like two scenes of them together. This felt like a "tick the boxes" thing. I must have an asexual character, poof Jasnah. Where as Rlain and Renarin was built up since Oathbringer and happened a lot more organically.

Not sure what you mean friend. Szeth is a pale bald person who we can assume doesn't sleep well from his guilt. I fail to see any resemblance here.

Comments like these mean a ton to me. I really appreciate you taking the time to write it out and completely agree with you. Too much felt out of place and really the book was overall disappointing. Shinover and Adolin were great and most characters had great moments, but overall, this was the weakest SA book by a decent margin.

A fair point on Jasnah, but it still felt like she got rolled over. I don't mind odium winning, he should have won at least one battle field. But it seemed like he barely struggled against Jasnah at all and that's what bugs me.

@ yea I didn’t enjoy that entire encounter.

I am glad you found it enjoyable, comments like these mean a lot :D

Definitely looking forward to that one. I can't imagine Rock being written out that way.

I always thought that was the weakest part of Shallan's story. So often the ghostbloods want the same thing as shallan, and them chasing her in the spiritual realm was like... fine? ok? I am glad we moved past that and hope the next arc gives her something more meaty.

@ well I think her motivation makes sense in that she wants Mishram to stay in her prison and knows the Ghostbloods will do something terrible with her so she has to stop them. My main issue really does just come down to how Shallan can never out maneuver them. With every other main character they have moments where they get to best their enemies but Shallan ALWAYS loses to the ghostbloods anytime she has the upper hand it’s revealed no she actually doesn’t and she is forced to do what they want. It could also be because I haven’t read anything other then Mistborn eras 1 and 2 and the stormlight books so all the extra lore with the Ghostbloods is lost on me so they just come across as a really annoying secret organization that can’t ever be bested. Near the end when she finally kills Mraize and has this moment where she feels appreciative of what he taught her and I just did not care and felt it wasn’t really earned. Mraize didn’t really teach her anything just kept her on a hook for more info. Idk I hope her next arc is more interesting cuz while I love Shallan as a character her plots were my least favorite.

@@justinrandall9550 Same feeling the not teaching her part. Also how she is like " my mom, my dad, my teachers" and includes mraize there. like girl, he really wasn't a teacher to you.

@ exactly!

Hmm, what do you mean? not sure I fully understand the question.

@@Otomoking I'm curious about what you said on skippable parts of the book. Is there a particular section or plotline you found slow or tedious?

I found a lot of the earlier Dalinar visions to be things we have seen before. It was interesting sure, but it wasn't anything new. Plus we might see them again when we get Herald POV books as well.

Thank you. I wrote some notes down and did this in one take, so I was worried it wouldn't come out well. Really appreciate your kind words.

Pretty much. Eshonai was the cooler sister.

Much appreciated. Anything specific about the review you liked? Definitely thinking of making more reviews for shows/games/movies I like. And the next one will probably be a spoiler one about Winds and Truth.

Heyo gos! How'd you get here?

Appreciate hearing that a lot, thank you.

I read that too and it's a good point. It was a very much an ending of "I don't want to play this game anymore". I really didn't like how Dalinar ended, or how we still have some version of the Blackthorn still fighting. Oath Renouncing was cool the first time, then done twice in a row? eeeeh.

New Oaths were so impactful in the past. This time around they weren't and didn't matter. Also if one can skip an oath, how come Kal wasn't able to. In WoK, when he is lying in that hollow he says how can't save his friends, essentially the oath from RoW.

@@karohe Szeth near instantly made the oath and then abandoned it :/. Frankly I hadn't thought of that angle but it reminds me of words of radiance when Kaladin swears his oath and fights for Elhokar, how good that was. In general the power creep has made oaths feel a lot less important.

You're misremembering a bit. It was a game he was DMing. Dan Wells has spoken about it. The twist at the end was the antagonist forced the players to fight an innocent child.

@@Otomoking3 times in a row, Szeth, Sigzil and Dalinar

Happy to discuss that as well. But I wanna see if people even think this video is worth anything for me to make another one with spoilers.

You are one of the first few with a review. Being the first is always good. People are going to look for a place to discuss, agree or disagree with this book. It could be a great way to bring a ton of subscribers.

I will definitely recommend using charts like Kurt Vonnegut's "shape of a story" for the characters. There is a short youtube video from a talk he gave.