I love how this guy singlehandedly called Lacan' bs with capital inarticulation and triggered all the alarms of the fact that youth is presented as "we're crippled but not blind" towards mr cop-out. The rest is just incapactity to understand the fact that society tends to inhabilitate people before they know it and then is too late, cows are ninjas compared of what is left of people by the time they're 20.
This video is an excerpt taken from 'Lacan Parle', which is a 1972 Belgian film comprising of recordings of a conference hosted by the Louvain/Leuven university of guest Jacques Lacan, as well as biographic segments and an interview with him. Jacques Lacan was a French psychoanalyst and psychiatrist. Through his findings and activity, he incidentally played a pivotal role in psychotherapy as a whole. At the time, his teachings were only available in the books he had written as well as the seminaries he would give. The Louvain/Leuven University invited him as an opportunity for students who didn't have the time to read his books or couldn't attend his classes to hear about his teachings more directly through an oral presentation (which makes sense once you understand the gist of his teachings relate to human communication and the place of discourse within it). Throughout the conference, Lacan explains that all relationships between human beings, as well as society as a whole, can only exist through communication and the very act of speaking, and that discourse is what people use to define themselves, specifically the way they speak and ultimately who they choose to be, all within those relationships (and again society, more broadly) as, according to him, the act of 'being' is exclusive to "animals that speak", referring to us as compared to the rest of nature and other social species. In short, Lacan says the act of speaking and what we choose to say, according to the discourse we use, is what makes human relationships possible. As for this excerpt specifically, while Lacan is diving into the topic, a man by the name of Anatole Atlas disrupts the conference and tampers with Lacan's material and notes with water. As he is initially about to be taken out of the room, he's eventually given space and time to express himself. He eventually claims that Lacan is only a mere enabler in a society profoundly guilty of fooling themselves into more phoniness and ultimately lacking any kind of authenticity, and that he exists within it only to give excuses to people making sure this self-decaying society, or "spectacle", sustains. Lacan then asks him what he's trying to achieve, Atlas retorts that what he wants is a revolution and that the only way to get there is to get people's attention by disrupting public appearances of people like him. Following the rest of their discussion (which I've realized recently was not kept in the final edit of the film) Atlas proceeds to throw water directly at Lacan, after which he's taken out of the room. Lacan takes it as an opportunity to highlight the type of discourse Atlas used to define himself in that very moment, and says that what Atlas want is people to stick together against the dominant figure, since the discourse Atlas used was the 'discourse of the master'. All in all (and this is not available on this excerpt), Atlas was preaching for love, according to Lacan. TL;DR: Old shrink gives a conference and explains human beings can only be what they choose to say through what they choose to listen to, young punk comes, fucks shit up and speaks, incidentally making the shrink's point. All on film
@@Piccolino_ No problem. Your question rang a bell, as after watching the film several times through the last couple of years, I still don't know if I understood what it means lmao
Lacan thinks language should not proceed further towards logical reductivism. The unconscious prevents all the poetry of the conscious from being poured out into culture. The student has read Guy debord and sees through Lacan's bs and denounces all ideas. He suggests the idea of culture is a subjective experience. Obviously here Lacan, old and hideos, is contrasted the student, who represents the maoist ideal for a revolutionary. I can go on. Lmk if you read this.
That impudent boy shoulda got the bash, these Lacan students are too tolerant, if I was in a crowd seeing a great mentor that I respect and someone did that to them they wouldn't get off so lightly
I think Dostoyevsky explains it best... 'What can one expect from man since he is a creature endowed with such strange qualities? Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea; give him such economic prosperity that he would have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with ensuring the continuation of world history and even then man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly, that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself (as though that were so necessary) that men still are men and not piano keys, which even if played by the laws of nature themselves threaten to be controlled so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar."
the way the student tried to attack lacan by raising his hand and walking towards him and the way lacan panicked and just slapped around his arms like a t rex was hilarious
Don't think it was that "hillarious" from the perspective of Lacan, an old man being physically assaulted by a taller and younger man simply for doing his job.
The protestor frustrates me because I think he is saying something interesting, but the way he goes about expressing his beliefs is so immature that it’s almost impossible to take his side or even take him seriously.
then it's your failing. that you expect commentators to say things in line with your aesthetics and that's more important to you than what they're saying.
Could you please one fish two fish your soul out of Yodh? I wonder if you could find another tone; Kénose....Catachresis comes when you want it the least
So they're not phonies just because they're not on smartphones? They betray their phoniness when they side with Lacan without understanding the young man's position.
considering that this was in 1972, just 4 years after the '68, he probably took on the streets and either organized or took part of the masses; thats what i assume he would also do the next day of the revolution
Because he is a revolutionary as situationnists can get I guess. Interrupting a teacher for propaganda purposes can be effective, but you can't do that alone and without a coherent ideology. But when you think you only have to fight the 'society of the spectacle', this kind of stunt becomes an end in itself.
my biggest "intellectual" embarrassment is that i read guy debord at 16 and thought this bullshit was deep. unforgivable
this is what happens when the french run out of bread
This is why the French have fun!
La gauchiasse face au charlatan psychopathe ... le camp de rééducation par le travail pleure pour eux.
this is random but the french language sounds so hideous
Qu'est-ce que ça a mal vieilli... 😂
Au contraire
@Vesanic1 😂
Vous travaillez en discothèque Mr Lacan ?
I love how this guy singlehandedly called Lacan' bs with capital inarticulation and triggered all the alarms of the fact that youth is presented as "we're crippled but not blind" towards mr cop-out. The rest is just incapactity to understand the fact that society tends to inhabilitate people before they know it and then is too late, cows are ninjas compared of what is left of people by the time they're 20.
Lacan was quasiscientist, pure narcisstic shit. Heideger was a genius.
Explain
I have no idea what this is or means, can someone give some explanation of the context?
This video is an excerpt taken from 'Lacan Parle', which is a 1972 Belgian film comprising of recordings of a conference hosted by the Louvain/Leuven university of guest Jacques Lacan, as well as biographic segments and an interview with him. Jacques Lacan was a French psychoanalyst and psychiatrist. Through his findings and activity, he incidentally played a pivotal role in psychotherapy as a whole. At the time, his teachings were only available in the books he had written as well as the seminaries he would give. The Louvain/Leuven University invited him as an opportunity for students who didn't have the time to read his books or couldn't attend his classes to hear about his teachings more directly through an oral presentation (which makes sense once you understand the gist of his teachings relate to human communication and the place of discourse within it). Throughout the conference, Lacan explains that all relationships between human beings, as well as society as a whole, can only exist through communication and the very act of speaking, and that discourse is what people use to define themselves, specifically the way they speak and ultimately who they choose to be, all within those relationships (and again society, more broadly) as, according to him, the act of 'being' is exclusive to "animals that speak", referring to us as compared to the rest of nature and other social species. In short, Lacan says the act of speaking and what we choose to say, according to the discourse we use, is what makes human relationships possible. As for this excerpt specifically, while Lacan is diving into the topic, a man by the name of Anatole Atlas disrupts the conference and tampers with Lacan's material and notes with water. As he is initially about to be taken out of the room, he's eventually given space and time to express himself. He eventually claims that Lacan is only a mere enabler in a society profoundly guilty of fooling themselves into more phoniness and ultimately lacking any kind of authenticity, and that he exists within it only to give excuses to people making sure this self-decaying society, or "spectacle", sustains. Lacan then asks him what he's trying to achieve, Atlas retorts that what he wants is a revolution and that the only way to get there is to get people's attention by disrupting public appearances of people like him. Following the rest of their discussion (which I've realized recently was not kept in the final edit of the film) Atlas proceeds to throw water directly at Lacan, after which he's taken out of the room. Lacan takes it as an opportunity to highlight the type of discourse Atlas used to define himself in that very moment, and says that what Atlas want is people to stick together against the dominant figure, since the discourse Atlas used was the 'discourse of the master'. All in all (and this is not available on this excerpt), Atlas was preaching for love, according to Lacan. TL;DR: Old shrink gives a conference and explains human beings can only be what they choose to say through what they choose to listen to, young punk comes, fucks shit up and speaks, incidentally making the shrink's point. All on film
@Vesanic1 it must have been quite an effort to write this whole comment, only to answer to my question, thank you a lot :)
@@Piccolino_ No problem. Your question rang a bell, as after watching the film several times through the last couple of years, I still don't know if I understood what it means lmao
@Vesanic1 well that is relatable
Lacan thinks language should not proceed further towards logical reductivism. The unconscious prevents all the poetry of the conscious from being poured out into culture. The student has read Guy debord and sees through Lacan's bs and denounces all ideas. He suggests the idea of culture is a subjective experience. Obviously here Lacan, old and hideos, is contrasted the student, who represents the maoist ideal for a revolutionary. I can go on. Lmk if you read this.
what a bunch of inadequates sand try hards
Plot twist, Lacan arranged the whole thing ahead of time
I love this man
Tweakin' hard 😂
Wow the student is kind of dreamy........wonder what's up with him now
Angry old man he was😂
He want a revolution so much that after leaving the lecture, he became the lead singer of a punk band called The Ramones and the rest is history.
The fraud had it coming.
You want a new master? You will get one.
Sauf si vous êtes crédule, l'intervention du jeune au tiers de la vidéo est une comédie, une pièce de théâtre organisée.
I kinda look like this dude. Got the same hair lol
Yeah, that’s very important. But now he’s 52 years older, probably not the same hair.
ua-cam.com/video/YpQfihMLuww/v-deo.html Anger and anguish. Affection and passion in Lacan
lol pure class his response was basically 'yup'.
That impudent boy shoulda got the bash, these Lacan students are too tolerant, if I was in a crowd seeing a great mentor that I respect and someone did that to them they wouldn't get off so lightly
"Revolutionary" French word meaning spoiled, rich kid.
Someone’s been reading a bit of situationist literature…
Faut pas s'énerver comme ça papy, C'est mauvais pour le cœur 😅😅
I think Dostoyevsky explains it best... 'What can one expect from man since he is a creature endowed with such strange qualities? Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea; give him such economic prosperity that he would have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with ensuring the continuation of world history and even then man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly, that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself (as though that were so necessary) that men still are men and not piano keys, which even if played by the laws of nature themselves threaten to be controlled so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar."
Lacan went Louis de Funès on this kid 😂
Never thought that Joey Ramone and Lacan would meet in these terms
Lmfao
The professeur had to exit the place the disrupter leave him, using his own logos, quite unconfortable. Heavy shit appealing to the ego of a boomer.
Lacan was no boomer, he was born in 1901. The disrupter, Anatole Atlas, was born in 1951. A real boomer!!
Lol
the way the student tried to attack lacan by raising his hand and walking towards him and the way lacan panicked and just slapped around his arms like a t rex was hilarious
Don't think it was that "hillarious" from the perspective of Lacan, an old man being physically assaulted by a taller and younger man simply for doing his job.
Uncanny to see him in all the anima of his humanity after dealing with just his discourse, voice in my head for 25 years...
what did he spill? looks like his throw-up
The protestor frustrates me because I think he is saying something interesting, but the way he goes about expressing his beliefs is so immature that it’s almost impossible to take his side or even take him seriously.
That's just how French professors lectured.
then it's your failing. that you expect commentators to say things in line with your aesthetics and that's more important to you than what they're saying.
@@desigrrl08is it too much to ask that somebody can be just a little bit intelligible?
Vacuous.
Lmao I fucking love the French
Revolution for the sake of revolution is the most postmodern thing I've ever witnessed
and profit for the sake of profit is what you're used to seeing
what the fuck are you on about
rebel without a cause
Betas supporting betas as usual.
what a clown
Could you please one fish two fish your soul out of Yodh? I wonder if you could find another tone; Kénose....Catachresis comes when you want it the least
That student's name? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.
No phones in sight. Just people enjoyed the moment.
Yeah but in another way, living in black and white... nop, not for me...
they enjoyed watching, phone users doing the same
So they're not phonies just because they're not on smartphones? They betray their phoniness when they side with Lacan without understanding the young man's position.
That's probably because mobile phones were not invented yet
‘I want a Revolution’ In Žižek’s words, “That’s easy kid, what are you gonna do the next day of the Revolution?”
hahaha shut up.
Enjoy
considering that this was in 1972, just 4 years after the '68, he probably took on the streets and either organized or took part of the masses; thats what i assume he would also do the next day of the revolution
You find enemies of revolution within the ranks of the revolution
You make your ideal society
this is soo childish and counterproductive ugh... whats his @?
The guy who interrupted looks like Maxmoefoe
What was so revolutionary about the kid's actions? He accomplished about as much as kicking over a trash can.
Because he is a revolutionary as situationnists can get I guess. Interrupting a teacher for propaganda purposes can be effective, but you can't do that alone and without a coherent ideology. But when you think you only have to fight the 'society of the spectacle', this kind of stunt becomes an end in itself.
@@turtlecraft7996blabla
5:05 greatest anime plot twist
french people
beautiful counter transference.
Why