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Developers with 15 years of experience or less are coming to the realization of those of us that pre-date the internet. Declarative functional programming is really developer friendly... You'll also find out it's very AI friendly as well!

Hehe.. I think that you forgot to remove this tag from the latest version of the hypecp webpage. Great video though.

As an exclusively web guy, I had no idea how out of control the UI situation was across Windows/MacOS/Linux and Android/iOS until I started considering making cross platform native apps. No adults in the room.

How DARE you two tease us with register_htmx_handler(), and then not show the code! 🤨 In all seriousness, dealing with that issue has me considering dropping HTMX which I otherwise love, when combined with Go. I would REALLY appreciate getting to see how that is done. Use it to build your own mailing list. P.S. Marketing idea for your channel: Offer an ebook of recipes for the common issues in how to deal with things on the front-end - since there is no multi-language concern on the front-end - as HTMX is so different for other JS developers and for backend developers who don't know JS (or like me) who don't know it well. BTW, #jmtcw but I don't see nearly as much need for a recipe book for backend techniques. Most people know their backend language of choice and can read code in other languages as long as that code is straightforward. Sure, it would be nice, but IMO what is really needed is a cookbook showing how to do things in HTMX on the front end. And with all your guests helping you, I bet you could put such a cookbook together in no time (hint, use Claude or ChatGPT to help you write/revise sections at a time so it won't feel like such a slog.)

Hey, I'm really interested in this blizzard talk about net code, can someone share a link with me?

You forgot to remove the tag on hypecp. The page is constantly reloading :)

The downside is the delay between a change and refresh as this is not intelligent refresh that happens on file change. That being said, its working without the page shifting to top like a normal reload does is kinda awesome, never knew it existed. Thanks.

Good stuff, very handy indeed. I wonder how the @for loop worked since you didn't add any library on top? What am I missing?

Thanks.

31:10 dude.... what, read the f* docs, you just guess and give up ? goofy time suck.

Great conversation. However, the data-star library has too many string based interactions for my liking. I don't know how debugging issues will look like in this

I heard some devs say they really like DaisyUI which makes a bridge between Tailwind and Bootstrap-style. I'm not sure if it goes the full PicoCSS where it will style everything for you.

I prefer to just use custom elements to determine when a page is loaded or not. It works perfectly for this situation where you can initialize libraries, do any garbage collection, etc.

Hi, I have a lot of questions after listening this podcast. For me, HTMX meets my need for simplicity for certain interactions, which Datastar also seems to do. What I noticed as the main difference is the mode of exchange with the server. XHR for one, SSE for the other. I don't need a super-optimised connection. Either solution meets my needs. For example, if I'm updating a shopping card, or a table with dynamic sorting. One or other of the solutions will meet my needs. I'm not a millisecond-cruncher and I don't need the server to send live information. In short, I'm wondering about the best practice to adopt without getting into server configurations that require a specialist. I like the simplicity of my Lamp stack. Thanks Could you add datastar in your video title ?

Thanks

Dude you're funny. Enjoying the channel, just found it.

English is not my native language, subtitle van help but with red highlight is just horrible! I left.

if you want it to be taken more seriously, a linter/lsp is needed for the code in strings

I don’t want to be a boiled frog !!

Hypermedia is the way

Regarding swap-oob - My main use currently is to return correct seo meta tags for my blog posts - which are only partial html deliveries. (using query based routing like /post?id=post-about-something)

For the event delegation, there doesn't seem to be a point of removing and re-adding the listener each time. When you're adding it to document, I don't think it cares what its children are. Even if they're replaced, the new elements' events will still bubble up the DOM and your event listener will work as it did for the previous children. Nothing is ever replacing document, as far as I'm aware, so there's never a need to re-init.

So many coding tutorials are just copy/paste videos with fast editing. It is a breath of fresh air to see an actual live coding video. Thank you!

Cool vid bro. I am thinking about doing the same sort of thing. I am back in school at 44 finishing my CS degree. Seems like a good way to sharpen skills and show skills to potential employers?

I would be interested in how to do multi language pages. How do I switch from English to Italian to French

This would work really well as a podcast (just the audio on spotify). I really enjoy the content, but for me it would be much easier to find time for a 1Hour podcast, compared to a 1hour video.

This about phone and serving UI from backend is brilliant idea.

What should you know about “complect”? It’s bad! Don’t do it! I absolutely love this Rich Hickey talk! Once I watched it my whole world of programming turned upside down and I started to notice how unnecessarily complex things become literally everywhere.

What a fantastic conversation. Thank you both

I find that writing about things, is often done better a month later when you try to replicate or use the tool.

It's nice to hear someone who doesn't cling to a framework and treats it as an oracle for writing a program. I like this new wave of programming returning to simplicity: less is more

Maybe Fireship or Primeagen is what it needs to get the words out 😂 ua-cam.com/video/zGyAWH5btwY/v-deo.htmlsi=gGiwQP9NeLUlsKlb

The talk mentioned in the description is out now. ua-cam.com/video/0K71AyAF6E4/v-deo.htmlsi=glsJWpo8fluRXy3G

Looking forward to it. Hopefully you will include a little (info) button to reveal the code and hopefully Django will be well supported! Btw, it took me like 10 minutes of making sure you're not interviewing yourself 😂✌️

Whole django community seems stuck in time, it seems. I used it back in the days and really enjoyed it back than. I even attend 2 djangocons and held tutorials on the chemnitzer linux tage. But would probably not use it anymore nowadays since the things it solve are not that hard to solve with more flexible and composable tools nowadays. It's nice to see it still going, tho.

Is there a downside of keeping one SSE connection open constantly for each client? I would imagine there would be a limit for open connections for a backend

Damn. One family produced twins that both got into webdev. That's a crazy coincidence.

both have almost the same shirt! What a coincidence. Great interview to know more about Lazarus.

Great video - I look forward ro contributing to and also using the site. Both off-topic and topically, I'd like to recommend, Journey to the Far Side of the Sun (1969), also known as Doppelgänger. This British science fiction movie, directed by Robert Parrish, follows a mission to explore a newly discovered planet located on the opposite side of the sun, mirroring Earth's orbit. The narrative delves into themes of identity and parallel existence.

LOL😂

this is scary. Is that real or not? Please don't let that be yet another 💩- Post that gives people a reason not to use HTMX.

Rally great talk! thank you!

What I've seen for optimistic UI that makes more sense is to render something between a loading incator and the final result. The term used in JS frameworks I've seen is "pending". A pending item in a table may have the entire row a different color and any inputs disabled and may even be in a separate pending section of the table, rather than its final position. As such it may not match the final HTML and so comparing with the final response to detect an error may not work. Pending items seem to give feedback in a way that means the user is confident enough to perform other operations while the pending items resolve themselves without further intervention. The user understands those items are queued and have some hint on what the final result will be.

At the end you just basically described hyperview's use case exactly! With this you do still have to compile a dedicated 'app' to subbmit but i dont think you do any of the programming work here its all done for you and then you just submit that essentially blank unchanging app to the app store. All your real code is then just a server endpoint you controll generating hypermedia xml just like a htmx app does.

This conversation doesn't really convince me to use HTMX - sure if I am creating a simple website, but nothing more than that.

I spent a weekend debugging a bundling issue that happened with 30% probability . It was an issue that only expressed itself on our CI VMs - docker node-buster: 20, it happened because a dependency 4 times removed included babel and run commands that didn't jive with my apps vite and yarn.

I spent a weekend debugging a bundling issue that happened with 30% probability . It was an issue that only expressed itself on our CI VMs - docker node-buster: 20, it happened because a dependency 4 times removed included babel and run commands that didn't jive with my apps vite and yarn.

Joker. I wouldn't be surprised if some powerful entity like react team orchestrated this. They don't want HTMX to go mainstream too early lmao

Great Interview, this was very helpful.