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sample chopped hiphop walkthrough
hey everyone! this is a quick walkthrough of a recent project using sample chopping. enjoy!
00:00 intro
00:51 sample chopping method
02:26 specific example
03:15 final sample
04:09 using the sample
05:08 drums, 808, and arp
07:02 thoughts
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Відео

making lofi sample chop breakbeats
Переглядів 94Місяць тому
hey everyone! this is an old project i found today and expanded a bit. thinking of adding vocals or other layers to it. let me know what you think! enjoy:p
electro song TALK THRU | drumsynth, pendulate, capsule, n01ze m4k3r, + more
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hey everyone! this is an electro-style track i've been working on using the drumsynth plugin i recently looked at, alongside a few other favourites. enjoy! 00:00 intro/a section 00:38 drumsynth 02:46 soft lead 03:18 bass 04:26 pluck 05:19 b section/piano stab 06:48 form/c section 09:33 final thoughts
drumsynth | awesome drum synthesiser plugin
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hey everyone! this video is just a quick exploration of the drumsynth plugin, which is on sale for 90% off at the moment: www.airmusictech.com/virtual-instruments/drum-synth/ enjoy! 00:00 overview 2:42 preset kits 3:58 kick models 5:47 snare models 7:56 hi-hat models 10:06 clap models 11:03 first impressions
AI's Place in Creative Industries
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hey everyone! this video is a bit different to my usual content, but i think it raises an important topic that is becoming increasingly impactful on the careers of creative workers. let me know what you think in the comments! big thankyou to @Sadiquecat and @mossbeaalien for feedback on this video, and contributing some of the points you see below! a few considerations not mentioned in the vide...
live looped jam | volca keys + boss rc-1
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00:00 circuit tracks for drums 00:42 bass 01:35 arp/bell 03:00 warbly lead 05:10 outro
touchdown | live upbeat jam | circuit tracks + volca keys
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hey! this is the first track ive put together with the volca keys. check out my first impressions video: ua-cam.com/video/GkFsvX3C70w/v-deo.html thanks for watching!
moon landing | circuit tracks electronic jam
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hey everyone! this circuit tracks jam includes a few new patches - an arp that doubles as a lead and a chord track that doubles as a bass. hope you enjoy!
KORG volca keys | first impressions
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hey everyone! this video is my first look at the KORG volca keys! very excited to add this powerful synth to my collection. more to come soon! 00:00 unboxing 01:37 first impressions 03:49 why? 08:01 sound demos 10:31 thankyou
vibes | mt-45 jam
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he's back!! youtube studio tells me i uploaded this 6 months ago. bit late. hope you enjoy
throwback | mt-45 jam
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hey everyone! the mt-45 is a pretty cool vintage keyboard that i've had for a while but have never really explored. while there's not much to it beyond what you can see on the panel, it's a lot of fun to just sit down and jam. i guess this video will tell us how fun it is to listen to... thanks for watching
cosmos | circuit tracks + nts-1 jam
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hey everyone! this jam was primarily recorded as an "audition" of sorts for an upcoming online music event, but also serves as (again 🙄) my first video after an unintentional hiatus. more videos may be coming soon. thanks for watching!
pushing LFOs to the LIMIT | VITAL sound design
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hey everyone! in this video i take a look at how LFOs can be used to create more interesting sounds, by stacking many layers of modulation! enjoy:) 00:00 intro 00:52 making the patch 04:36 chit chat
abusing the power of envelopes | VITAL SOUND DESIGN
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hey everyone! today we're looking at envelopes and how many different ways we can use them to modulate parameters in a synth! enjoy! 00:00 what is this series? 01:10 negative envelope depth 04:21 many sources, one destination 06:19 overview
FISSION | hyperpop track breakdown
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hey everyone!! in this video i break down a hyperpop style track i've been working on recently! the working title is "fission" let me know what you think of it! thanks for watching:) 00:00 intro 00:51 casiotone 01:49 sounds and instruments 06:23 verse section 09:22 chorus 15:12 rambling
turning my old music into spotify-ready songs
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turning my old music into spotify-ready songs
distant memories in music
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distant memories in music
nu guzheng: hiphop with world instruments
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nu guzheng: hiphop with world instruments
vintage jam with casiotone mt-45 | almost chiptune
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vintage jam with casiotone mt-45 | almost chiptune
lofi hiphop with guitar (i need to do this more)
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lofi hiphop with guitar (i need to do this more)
trying something different...
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trying something different...
the ambient episode #rpmchallenge update 2
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the ambient episode #rpmchallenge update 2
a bunch of breakbeats #rpmchallenge update 1
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a bunch of breakbeats #rpmchallenge update 1
rpm challenge 2023!
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rpm challenge 2023!
blast off!! #jamuary day 30
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blast off!! #jamuary day 30
the final jam... #jamuary day 31
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the final jam... #jamuary day 31
guitar ambient #jamuary day 29
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guitar ambient #jamuary day 29
sunrise #jamuary day 28
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sunrise #jamuary day 28
retrograde #jamuary day 27
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retrograde #jamuary day 27
hyperfrost #jamuary day 26
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hyperfrost #jamuary day 26

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @Flaminghamsterboy
    @Flaminghamsterboy 15 днів тому

    Just got one. Thanks for the tips.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 9 днів тому

      have fun with it! thanks for watching

  • @1elgran
    @1elgran 27 днів тому

    Well. You just upgraded my tracks after 2 years of use - instantly. Some really nice tips. Especially the pitch control for the samples! And the volume knop for the metronome simply hit me right in the face XD Amazing. Tnx!

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 25 днів тому

      hey! thanks so much for watching. good luck with it :)

  • @ansgar-kruetzmann
    @ansgar-kruetzmann Місяць тому

    Great collection of Tips, thanks! Now.. please get a Rhythm as well and and make another video 🤗

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan Місяць тому

      thanks! yes - a rhythm is certainly on the shopping list

  • @trevormalcolm4328
    @trevormalcolm4328 Місяць тому

    I think it’s about time Korg did a Volca keys update, or at the very least a visual rethink, colour and look is dated

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan Місяць тому

      yeah, i admit i haven't used much hardware recently, but i do see what you mean. in terms of functionality i do think it stands up - it's barebones but what you see is what you get. an update would be super appreciated tho.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan Місяць тому

      a volca keys 2 with true polyphony could be awesome, perhaps also with extra voices. i think the number of on-panel controls is pretty perfect, as well as the lack of menu-diving, so any more advanced features may sacrifice that. the current volca keys is very user-friendly, so more advanced features may start to cause a tradeoff between complexity and ease-of-use

  • @David-jh6kf
    @David-jh6kf Місяць тому

    i think it's as cool as you think

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan Місяць тому

      hell yeah 🙌🙌 thanks for watching :)

  • @D4rk0t
    @D4rk0t Місяць тому

    let's gooooo breakcore!

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit Місяць тому

    Respect to playing with old things vs lusting for new. Thank you for sharing. Keep having fun!

  • @johnkammerer2198
    @johnkammerer2198 Місяць тому

    I just got one of these - your tutorial is really good. Thank you!

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan Місяць тому

      heyy, thanks for watching! have fun with it!

  • @viridian_meridian
    @viridian_meridian 2 місяці тому

    The "there have been many technological advancements that have changed art throughout history, and AI is just more of this dynamic" argument that is adamantly employed by some does't really work for me... I see almost no analog to say, the printing press, or a drum machine... never before in history, has humanity had access to human rhetoric catalogs just on-tap so to speak, and the dynamics created from that are unlike any other technology... yes, the printing press may have detrimentally affected any kind of manual printer financially, but ultimately, the artist was liberated tenfold... and regarding the dynamic of the drum machine, drum machines in their infancy, well into their later usages, were never capable of creating human-like sounds whatsoever, sometimes by design even, and through this, actually birthed new music archetypes. The drum machine may have been seen or used by some as a way to bypass the drummer in a commercial setting to provide backbeats at the expense of the gigging furniture-music kinda drummer, but ultimately, humanity was graced by many musical dynamics that would not be today had they not existed... now compare that to the way generative rhetoric catalogs (AI) is being used primarily... to me it's like... okay you can have a machine automate making socks for instance, but once you instruct the machine to not only make the socks, but wear them too, and sell that itself as the spectacle to be observered, what does anyone get from that? It functions so much more as a bypass of all artistic endeavors than any kind of limitation bypass with a silver lining... I know that analogy is kinda weird, but I don't know how else to draw an analog yet... I really don't think humanity has made a comparable "tool" so far... it seems like a creation born almost entirely out of, and caters to a sense of entitlement for would-be artists and detrimental insatiability in a commercial setting.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 2 місяці тому

      amazing points here hota. in the time since making this video i've moved towards that perspective a little more, however i also feel there are aspects of ai that will liberate artists as far as practicing their craft and replacing the mundane aspects of their work. but, as has been said time and time again, this introduces other ethical problems. it's hard to know what the tradeoff is.

  • @RicyStuff
    @RicyStuff 2 місяці тому

    meow

  • @mossbeaalien
    @mossbeaalien 3 місяці тому

    I find AI to be such an interesting topic especially when it comes to its use and influence in creative industries in modern society. There's obviously a lot of perspective variety in the topic depending on what artistic branch is being discussed such as music, visual art, writing, etc. and I can definitely see the validity in all the differing opinions on this issue. It was an absolute treat to help out with this video and I'm glad our discussion helped! Great work mate!

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thankyou! yeah, it is interesting to see where people sit across different parts of the industry. thanks for your help!!

  • @Cherilafever
    @Cherilafever 3 місяці тому

    As an artist who loves the creative process it is hard for me to think positively about it. I feel like the term artificial intelligence makes it sounds more interesting than it really is. It is essentially scraping peoples work and creativity. My main concern is that it will actually deter creative people from producing more art and original music. Its just so much easier and there is a lot of people are making a lot of money with it, so definitely not going anywhere. Like you said its not cut and dry though. There is the argument that spell check is ai and some people just use it for promps. I just think its important to create value and novel ideas and my biggest objection is it seems like its making people lazy.... like were just resting on the laurels of our early accomplishments and eventually we'll run out of novel information to feed the machines.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thankyou for your comment - and for acknowledging that there are two sides to this issue! many people fail to accept that. i agree - it is making people put less effort into their creative work. in that sense, its a very personal issue, in regards to how you yourself feel about using ai, and its impact on your own creative process - i see no problem with generating art for a "supplementary" purpose (album art, background music, proof of concept/prototyping, etc), but if often brings with it ethical concerns. the ethical side is of course another issue, where in extreme forms it is absolutely taking work from artists, but it does exist in less extreme, "assistive" forms, which often present less ethical concerns.

    • @Cherilafever
      @Cherilafever 3 місяці тому

      @isaachorgan yeah I get the use for assistive forms... There's only 24 hours a day and it can take a lot of the tedium from doing business in the virtual world. It's mainly just painful when I see people not creating art or offering any real value (like ai blog articles or videos)

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      100% agree!

  • @gl1tt3r3
    @gl1tt3r3 3 місяці тому

    I dunno I think the drums sounds are pretty bad lol.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      fair enough. it's subjective 🤷‍♂️

  • @Myrheii
    @Myrheii 3 місяці тому

    please improve ur video sound .....

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thanks for your comment. what did you think was wrong with it?

    • @zytaris5103
      @zytaris5103 28 днів тому

      @@isaachorgan just for the record, I didn't hear much wrong with how your sound was being.. and I'm a musician of 45yrs experience,.. I'd love to know what Myrheii would explain as well..

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 25 днів тому

      @@zytaris5103 yeah. not sure about that one haha. thanks for watching.

  • @paulhiggins5165
    @paulhiggins5165 3 місяці тому

    The arguement that we must apply the same understanding of how human artists learn from other artists to the way that AI's learn from human artists is a strange one- humans are not machines. I could-in theory- build a mechanical exoskeleton that would allow me to run down a race track at 70MPH and then argue that I should be allowed to race alongside human athletes on the basis that the way my mechanical legs work is analogous to the way that human legs work- but no one would take this analogy seriously enough to allow me to compete. AI's do not learn in the way that human beings learn- an AI is not an 'electronic' brain that somehow duplicates the functions of the human brain- this idea is anthropomorphic nonsense. Yet all the debates surrounding the use of other people's work to train AI's is suffused with this nonsense. Once we are clear that AI's are not people then we can easily imagine a scenario in which laws are made to specifically prevent AI's being trained on Artists work without permission. Note that I said 'AI's'- I did not say people. Why is there this odd notion that any copyright laws must be applied equally to people as well as AI's? As a species we can walk and chew gum at the same time so we should have no problem in creating a situation where humans are free to learn from other artists work but AI's are not free to do this. A big potential downside with using 'some' AI generated content is that your audience will not know where this begins and ends- so, for example, using AI generated cover art opens up the possibility that the music itself may also have an AI generated component- there's a 'slippery slope' aspect this. Personally i think that in the not too distant future being able to sincerely claim that no AI was used might become an important point to be able to make. AI generated content is already seen as a negative by many people and as more and more AI generated stuff gets put out there the reputation of AI content as being 'cheap and nasty' low effort crap will only get worse. I am working on quite a large project of my own and AI Art would be a useful shortcut for me to take, but I will not use it because in the long run I want to make something that has actual value rather than cobble together a collection AI generated stuff that in the end adds no real value at all. Culture is not fruit and Veg- the value we assign to a given cultural artefact like a piece of Art or Music or Writing ect is not only defined by it's aesthetic qualites but also by it's provenance- who made it- and why they made- it matters as much as the thing itself. For example- should I visit the Louvre in France to see the Mona Lisa only to discover later that the thing I saw was a reproduction, placed on display while the real painting was being restored, can I claim to have seen the Mona Lisa? Most would say no- despite the fact that I obviously could not tell the real painting from the fake. Where AI fails is not in it's ability to mimic the work of human creators- where it fails is in it's lack of provenance- unlike the work of a human, AI generated content has no narrative, no story that lies behind it's creation. It matters that the Mona Lisa I see is the actual canvas touched by the brush of Da Vinci because the value of that painting is inextricably bound up with the history and intent of the artist who painted it. In the case of AI Art there is no artist- just the mindless proliferation of algorithms. A computer solving a problem is not Art- and that is all that Generative AI's really are- calculators in which the prompt is the problem and the output the solution. AI's understand Art the same way that Calculators understand Math- but if you tell me that my calculator is a Mathematician I will say that you are mistaken.

    • @sunla
      @sunla 3 місяці тому

      This comment was incredibly well-written. More effort than most videos on the platform. I wish more people had your outlook on this. I agree wholeheartedly.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thankyou for your comment. incredibly well written and very well thought out. i agree with your points. differentiating between ai and humans is a key aspect of copyright and law that has not yet been fully realised, allowing for exploitation. my intention was to lay out the potential arguments for both sides - it's easy to rebut these points morally and ethically, but modifying copyright law is not something that will happen quickly. as for your other point, i wholeheartedly agree. it is hard to draw a line as a creative with one's own expectations of yourself. it's easy to "allow yourself" to use ai for an album cover, because it's not your strength, but i can say from experience that i wish i had put in the time to create something of my own or paid a human artist to do so. at the end of the day, my key point is that everything is this space is new and complicated. many people have a clear view either for or against ai, and completely stick to that. i find myself somewhere in the middle, and recognise that while it's easy to morally decide what is and is not acceptable, the law doesn't work that way. thankyou for your comment.

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 3 місяці тому

    Humans will outlast AI as the brain isn’t reliant on the network. Cyber warfare is the next threat. When the network goes down, the human brain will remain. The original neural network.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      agreed. human creativity will outlast ai as perspectives change and ai becomes easier to recognise.

  • @PyramidBeats28
    @PyramidBeats28 3 місяці тому

    ✌✌✌Keep on jamming

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thanks for listening! ✌

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 3 місяці тому

    Good to see you still jamming. Enjoyed. Stay safe!

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thanks for checking it out!!

  • @makemistakestv
    @makemistakestv 3 місяці тому

    That was fun! Thanks for sharing.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 3 місяці тому

      thankyou for watching! :)

  • @Veveve1
    @Veveve1 3 місяці тому

    nice 1

  • @unclerm
    @unclerm 4 місяці тому

    Cool~

  • @Lunacide-75
    @Lunacide-75 4 місяці тому

    Nice, I have a few volcas and am looking for a circuit tracks soon. Great to see them working together. Thanks for the video.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      awesome! they are great together. thanks for watching

  • @esd9058
    @esd9058 4 місяці тому

    Thank you. I have those two devices. Nice to hear the use on UA-cam! 🌞

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      its a great combination. thanks for watching!

  • @D4rk0t
    @D4rk0t 4 місяці тому

    funky!

  • @BerlinerForFun
    @BerlinerForFun 4 місяці тому

    I've been loking for a way to turn off the "sticky shift" for a long time. Thank you very much for this information and best regards from Berlin

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      i was looking for a while too before i made that video. it is a useful feature for many people, but it should be clearer for when you accidentally turn it on. thanks for watching 😁

  • @ATLASilluminated
    @ATLASilluminated 4 місяці тому

    I know it’s been uploaded for a while, but I’ve been interested in the Tracks and this is the ONLY vid I found that demonstrates setting the bpm/tempo. Thank you so much, I hate no-screen devices that expect you to just turn a knob and get the right tempo, so this just about cements the deal for me.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      hey! glad i could help. have fun with the tracks, if you do get one.

  • @MaverickM1
    @MaverickM1 4 місяці тому

    Cool track but it screams for a mono station. A badass analogue bassline and it would be kiler…

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      yesss!! i just had a look at a few videos about it, loopop is reallllly selling me on it here. might see one on my channel soon 🤫🤫

  • @SonicVibe
    @SonicVibe 4 місяці тому

    🎉

  • @TechnoIndustria
    @TechnoIndustria 4 місяці тому

    👽 Great track 🔥

  • @D4rk0t
    @D4rk0t 4 місяці тому

    vwy fun to watch and listen

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      much appreciated! thanks for watching 😄

  • @Pastryarchy
    @Pastryarchy 4 місяці тому

    Man, the circuit tracks is soooo good. It's one of the better value pieces of gear in aus after import taxes etc. I bought a digitakt and have a few synths, but I still run the circuit as my centrepiece You don't realise until you're knee deep in other gear, just how valuable that simplistic side-chain is... especially for incoming audio.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      yeah, most things end up being crazy expensive here. and yeah - sidechain is such an underappreciated feature but its not found on most devices. its great to have. thanks for watching 😊

  • @drorbenam
    @drorbenam 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the great tips! I have a question pls! how do you use USB audio? i don't see anything connected to the audio outputs.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      unfortunately you can't use usb audio. i just used a headphone splitter and recorded the 1/8" output. you can just about see a white cable at the top

  • @Blissful_Soundscapes
    @Blissful_Soundscapes 4 місяці тому

    “….. I can’t imagine wanting this…..” 😂🎉😅

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      there's something for everyone i guess...

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 4 місяці тому

      really it is a good feature, just not marked clearly enough

  • @Najaxyutara
    @Najaxyutara 5 місяців тому

    Merci !

  • @futur_sunds
    @futur_sunds 5 місяців тому

    He’s alive

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 5 місяців тому

      he's back 🤯 lots of things coming soon...

  • @crusterzan
    @crusterzan 5 місяців тому

    Do you know if there is something like shift+pattern but for scenes? I would like to change the patterns using the scene but without waiting the patterns gets to the end to start the new scene.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 5 місяців тому

      hey! unfortunately this feature isn't available, as far as i know. i recommend using a new project for your patterns - you can use shift while selecting a project to switch instantly. thanks for watching:)

  • @pandalilpig
    @pandalilpig 6 місяців тому

    great stuff thanks mate

  • @backseatsamurai
    @backseatsamurai 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video. I just found your channel and am starting my journey of discovery with electronic music. I will be using your videos to learn all about the Tracks.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 5 місяців тому

      thanks for watching, have fun with it!

  • @AdrianGeorges
    @AdrianGeorges 6 місяців тому

    Well done. There were several useful hints I learnt from this video.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 6 місяців тому

      thanks for your comment. glad to hear that 😊

  • @BenjaminBausch
    @BenjaminBausch 7 місяців тому

    Brilliant. Thank you.

  • @Tetrad10
    @Tetrad10 7 місяців тому

    I don't have one of these, but damn... what a great, concise tutorial 🥇

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 7 місяців тому

      thanks for watching :)

  • @frikalonite
    @frikalonite 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the "sticky shift - back to normal" tip 😀

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 7 місяців тому

      thanks for watching. that one took me a while to get 😂

  • @darrensaunders2485
    @darrensaunders2485 8 місяців тому

    How do I delete notes from a project that is already on tracks circuit

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 8 місяців тому

      hey, you should just be able to open the project, select the track, and then use the clear button to clear notes from the sequence!

  • @spookydirt
    @spookydirt 9 місяців тому

    thanks - the click volume feature especially

  • @erikolsen1333
    @erikolsen1333 9 місяців тому

    Dude your killing it

  • @erikolsen1333
    @erikolsen1333 9 місяців тому

    Yes sir thank you

  • @gregorysteckler7075
    @gregorysteckler7075 9 місяців тому

    I just bought mine last week. Thanks for the tips, they're most helpful.

  • @TimmyHellhammer
    @TimmyHellhammer 9 місяців тому

    Thanks mate this tutorial I definitely benefited more than the other tutorials on UA-cam. You're workflow tempo you chose to explain features and parameters was brilliant.

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 8 місяців тому

      much appreciated, thanks for your comment

  • @donchanooo
    @donchanooo 10 місяців тому

    You explained this really nicely it helped a lot Thank you !! :)

    • @isaachorgan
      @isaachorgan 9 місяців тому

      much appreciated ❤❤

  • @eyskak
    @eyskak 10 місяців тому

    this sounds like the music from the early seasons of adventure time! also we have the exact same first and last name 😵‍💫