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Erik's Electronics Workbench
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Troubleshooting and repairing modern and vintage electronics, electronic tech tips and how-to, projects, tech talk, and more.
HP 66312A Power Supply Troubleshoot, Repair, And Calibrate
Let's find out why this Hewlett Packard (same as Agilent and Keysight) model 66312A Dynamic Measurement DC Source is not working. After the repairs I go through the calibration procedure.
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IFR (Marconi) 2186 Programmable Attenuator Repair
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Let's find out why this IFR 2186 programmable RF attenuator is not working properly and what needs to be done to repair it. Also a look at how the attenuator works and how to measure the internal attenuators with a spectrum analyzer or an ohm meter. As a final test, let's see how to verify that the full 130 dB attenuation is working using the HP 3585A. This attenuator model is the same as the M...
TDI Electronic Load DLP 50-60-1000A Troubleshoot & Repair
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Let's get this recently purchased Transistor Devices Inc. 1000 watt electronic load (Dynaload) back to working condition. See what components failed and how to replace them plus a look at the schematic relating to the failed parts. Some overview of the Dynaload's features are also discussed and a final test is run on the unit. #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics #testequipment
Repair And Calibration HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer - Part 2
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The replacement part arrived so let's continue the Hewlett Packard 8561E 30 Hz - 6.5 GHz spectrum analyzer repair and then calibrate the portion of the instrument with the replaced part. A quick discussion about understanding dBm measurements is also covered. Part 1 ua-cam.com/video/gQDG6wdf-KI/v-deo.html #electronicsrepair #spectrumanalyzer #hewlettpackard
Fermitek Power Inverter Follow Up
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A follow up to the original video. Circuit details figured out and an adjustment to the inverter frequency plus an unusual 600 volt circuit. Original video ua-cam.com/video/pMrBnLC1FQo/v-deo.html #inverter #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Old Style Power Inverter - Does It Work?
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Will this heavy old military surplus power inverter work? Let's check it out and try to power it up. Check out the follow up video too ua-cam.com/video/Q2KF4k_8daE/v-deo.html #inverter #learnelectronics #militarysurplus
Troubleshoot And Repair HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer - Part 1
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Let's find out why the displayed signal is not accurate on this Hewlett Packard 8561E 30 Hz - 6.5 GHz spectrum analyzer. #electronicsrepair #spectrumanalyzer #hewlettpackard This instrument was the subject of a previous video ua-cam.com/video/ZhOr00LZ-eU/v-deo.html
TEAC A-3440 Reel to Reel Tape Machine Repair
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Let's get this TEAC A-3440 reel to reel tape machine with a mechanical problem working again. For viewers not familiar with reel to reel tape machines a quick overview is also discussed before the repair is started. Jump to 9:30 to start the repair diagnosis. #vintageaudiorepair #electronicsrepair #reeltoreel
PS-30LAB DC Power Supply Troubleshoot And Repair
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Follow as Erik troubleshoots this bench DC power supply to find out what made it suddenly stop working after 20 years of use. Electronics tech tips, replacement component selection, how-to info, plus an overview of how the power supply functions, and a load test on the repaired power supply. #powersupply #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Vintage Audio - Spectro Acoustics 210 Equalizer Repair
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Follow along as I troubleshoot, repair, and test this Spectro Acoustics model 210 audio equalizer. #vintageaudio #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Lambda MML 400 Switch Mode Power Supply Troubleshooting And Repair
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Follow along on this troubleshooting and repair adventure of a Lambda Omega MML 400 switch mode DC power supply (SMPS). No schematics are available so let's see what it takes to track down the problem. #powersupply #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Tech Talk - How The MEP-002A / 003A Generator AC Voltage Regulator Works
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In this tech talk video let's look at the unusual AC voltage regulation system on the military MEP-002A and MEP-003A generator sets and clear up some mysteries about how it functions. I'll explain how the unusual magnetic amplifier works and how it is used in this regulator system. #generator #electronics #techtalk
Simpson 260 VOM Troubleshoot And Repair - Part 2
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Follow along as Erik troubleshoots and tests this vintage Simpson 260 - Series 4 VOM with a problem on the DC volt ranges. Part 1 video ua-cam.com/video/ia1peeyx52A/v-deo.html #testequipment #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Simpson 260 VOM Troubleshoot And Repair - Part 1
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Follow along as Erik troubleshoots this Simpson 260 - Series 4 VOM with a problem on the DC volt ranges. A look at the schematic is also included. #testequipment #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Tech Talk - What Is A Ghost Voltage And How To Test It
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Tech Talk at Erik's Electronics Workbench. What is a ghost or phantom voltage and how do you test it? How can you tell if it is a ghost voltage or not? Follow along as Erik explains the details. #learnelectronics #electronics #techtalk
Let's Make This 1940's GE 250 Vacuum Tube Radio Work
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Let's Make This 1940's GE 250 Vacuum Tube Radio Work
Apt Corp. Holman Preamplifier Repair And Test
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Apt Corp. Holman Preamplifier Repair And Test
Weston Instruments 432 Wattmeter Teardown And Repair
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Weston Instruments 432 Wattmeter Teardown And Repair
Atlas Sound CP400 Audio Amplifier Troubleshoot, Repair, And Test
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Atlas Sound CP400 Audio Amplifier Troubleshoot, Repair, And Test
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 2
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Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 2
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 1
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Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 1
Agilent 6812B AC Power Source Disassembly, Repair, and Test
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Agilent 6812B AC Power Source Disassembly, Repair, and Test
Fluke 199C Scopemeter Teardown and Repair A Noisy Fan
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Fluke 199C Scopemeter Teardown and Repair A Noisy Fan
HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer Teardown, Repair, Modification, And Test
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HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer Teardown, Repair, Modification, And Test
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFA-555se Audio Amplifier
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Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFA-555se Audio Amplifier
Stanford Research Systems DS340 Function Generator Repair
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Stanford Research Systems DS340 Function Generator Repair
PP-4763A 28 Volt 50 Amp DC Power Supply Repair
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PP-4763A 28 Volt 50 Amp DC Power Supply Repair
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 2
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Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 2
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 1
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Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 1
Kepco ABC 25-4DM Switch Mode DC Power Supply Repair and Test
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Kepco ABC 25-4DM Switch Mode DC Power Supply Repair and Test
NICE JOB MATE , THANK-YOU FOR THE WALK THRU, I MYSELF HAVE A TEAC A4300SX DECK, WITH REMOTE CONTROL , ..JUST A NOTE THESE MACHINES ALSO HAVE OIL TUBES FOR THE MOTORS, VERY SMALL !!
Thank you for watching and the compliment. I did not notice the oil tubes to be honest. I'll have to take another look. I do have the remote for this deck as well.
48:20 a 50 ohm load will usually attenuate the signal by half, by design. If you hook it straight to high impedance, the signal would normally be double, for most designs of 50 ohm output impedance signal sources. For example, a signal generator set to 50 ohm output impedance and to supply a 1V signal, you would see two 2V at the output unloaded. When supplied with a 50 ohm load at the receiving end, the normal voltage divider effect occurs, and it sees again 1V as specified.
Yes you are correct that the 50 ohm load of the terminator has the affect of attenuating the source signal about half because it is loading it. I was just mentioning that the adapters are not also pass through attenuators because such adapters also exist (termination plus attenuation).
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench I was thinking about my comment in the shower. I reconsidered that maybe it's almost philosophical or dogmatic, whether one wants to view the signal point at the top of the 'outside' 50 ohm load as having been attenuated (because it would almost surely be a higher level if that load was not present in the signal path), or if one should view the division as part of the systematic signal transmission mechanism, because if one measures signal at the wire *just* before and *just* after the top of the 50 ohm load point, given our 'real' measurement device is very high impedance, the signal level at those two points will be virtually the same. Whereas that would not be true for a -10dB attenuating pass-through. Not sure any more.
@@ivolol When I'm using an RF signal generator (as is the case here) it is intended to operate into 50 ohms so I consider the 50 ohm terminated voltage the normal operating voltage. Terminating the generator is not normally considered attenuating the signal level (in the terms of what an attenuation pad does) even though as you mentioned the 50 ohm terminated voltage will be lower than the open voltage by design. When I'm working with RF signal levels I almost always use dBm which assumes 50 ohm termination on most RF test equipment.
Hy Erik, thank you ! certainly pointed to the sore points on mine too ! After desoldering 15 ohm resistor, one of them on my 2465b was open ….exactly like yours ! My 2465B was no longer working…now in the process of ordering the replacement parts. I had also two failed caps on the other board the 180uf /40v blue caps… Will post back when I am finished to point if anything else was bad :) Best, Eric 🙂
Thanks for watching Eric. Hope your 2465B turns out well!
Its amazing how much workmanship went into those instruments. Nowadays you would have to sell them at Rolex Prices if you would want to make a profit. I got one with an iron core that is more robust but can be used at mains frequencies only. But what was the reason for the malfunction ? I guess the base of the movement is some cast mu-metal which is a nickel-iron alloy. Some cast alloys tend to shrink or otherwise change their dimensions over long times. Some others tend to grow some whiskers that may block the movement of the damper.
I was also wondering why the meter movement had the problem in the first place. But they are so delicate and made with such precision it takes very little to interfere.
Extremely informative, and very well explained all along the process! Very impressive! I use a 270-5 and a 260-8 in my aircraft maintenance activities, I started my career many many moons ago with an old clamshell micronta analogue meter, then thought I was “upgrading” when I got a fluke 77, which I used for years. About 10 years ago a shop fire forced me to replace the fluke, I decided to take another look at analogue meters, as I missed the rapid reflex nature of the needle indication, and bought the 270-5 roll top heavy duty case version. Then later added the 260-8 as a more daily driver with the Simpson cordura padded meter case. Love the Simpsons! Best tool for electrical circuit troubleshooting in aviation practical use settings, what do you think of the old Triplett 630NA meters?
Thanks for the compliment and glad you enjoyed the video. The Triplett 630NA is a quality, reliable, and accurate meter but I'm not a fan of the 30 volt battery they used. It has a unique internal construction but a bit tricky to work on.
27:06 I wonder if they've chosen the components to suit the target output voltage? If it were to output 240-250v then 450v would make sense.
Yes correct that is what was done.
@EriksElectronicsWorkbench my apologies, lol, I only saw how many other people made that same comment after I had published mine. You must be very patient.
@@bobbybiggs4348 no worries, it's a valid point about the voltage. Thanks for taking time to watch.
The ceramic caps might be for ac coupling if that toroid is a gate drive transformer. I'd really be curious to see what control chip they're using.
Gold does not tarnish, that's why it's a noble metal 😂😂😂. It gets dirty from whatever else gets in contact with it, like carbon pads....
Pure gold does not tarnish, but the contacts are not pure gold, they contain other alloys added to the gold and they do (or can) tarnish.
Now that the cold weather has kicked in and the golf clubs are nearly put away, I'm enjoying catching up on all the videos since last winter!
Happy to know you are enjoying the channel! Thanks for watching.
Great calibration walk through !
Thank you!
There is no way in hell that you can damage a mosfet made after 1990 by handling it. Maybe if you charge on a Van de Graaf machine and discharge directly on the gate... and even so i don't think it would brake a sweat.... It's more likely to fry a BC509 or other puny fuckers, than a big ass mosfet...
Sure you can. All it takes is a static charge on the gate terminal. You can easily build up 100's or 1000's of volts if you are not ESD protected. toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/semiconductor/knowledge/faq/mosfet/mos-is-sensitive-to-static-electricityhow-do-you-protect-mosfets.html
I just picked up one of these off ebay not working (after watching your video I thought I'd take a look at one). When I tried it the voltage was unstable. When I opened it up, it had the same cut jumpers and missing components that your board did. It also had the "TestEquity" sticker on it.
That's crazy!! I noticed the seller had another power supply listed as non working after I purchased mine. I almost bought it out of curiosity. Really unusual that these would have this modification that makes them unusable. Thanks for sharing what you found in yours.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench What really puzzles me is why someone would go through the trouble of desoldering the resistor, but take the easy approach and just cut the jumpers? That missing 1K resistor on my board looks as cleanly removed as it did on yours.
@@repairitlee I agree it is very odd mystery.
Hi, Erik - my GFA 555II is silent when no inputs are connected, but it hums very noticeably when connected to my preamp. Thinking this was ground loop hum, I took everything apart and couldn't locate the source of the hum. Finally, I installed a different power amp and there was no hum. What could be the issue with the 555? I would greatly value your guidance.
It does seem like a ground loop problem. Inside the GFA555II the input connector ground side first connects to a 100 ohm resistor and then to ground. Check that this resistor is not open. Disconnect input cables and measure with an ohm meter from the RCA outside shell to the amp's chassis. Should be 100 ohms for each input. If that test is ok a solution could be to use this device to break the ground loop www.parts-express.com/Rolls-HE18-Buzz-Off-Hum-Eliminator-Balanced-Unbalanced-Conve-245-1032?quantity=1&srsltid=AfmBOorTiJzXfjFAfwW-TlMsBcDu6nJ0eM6GrwB-6vSzVbY42MLK6McO
Erik - Thanks. Each side measures 100 ohms. I already tried the Rolls "Buzz Off" device and it didn't help. The amp hums with any source. I even bypassed the power distribution component and went straight out of my dedicated 20A outlet without improvement. I tried lifting the ground to no effect. It seems that the 555 introduces hum when amplifying any signal but it is quiet when the inputs are unplugged. Can you think of any other potential cause in the amp? The substitute power amp plays; no hum.
@@carlespy7470 unusual problem as hum if coming from within the amp is usually present all the time. Perhaps it is more of a distortion issue. Really the only way to test is to input a known good sinewave signal from a signal generator and then use an oscilloscope and probe starting at the input jack and move through the amplification stages until the noise is found. It could be a defective transistor but equally any other component failure could cause distortion so it is not really possible to say the cause without testing. Also check the power supply rails and make sure they are equal in DC value and very low ripple voltage. Also check the output bias setting.
Eric - thanks for the advice. I'll give all your suggestions a try. I do have the equipment but have limited expertise.
This guy needs more subs! Great content!
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the channel.
Nice AC power synthesizer. There are actually some which can generate an arbitrary waveform.
Yes very versatile for testing. Although not completely arbitrary, this one can be set to do various transient output waveforms.
i watched with great interest, I noticed at the end that the peak was not quite centered on the gaticule. Can this be adjusted?
In theory yes but it is the result of more than one adjustment that affects the peak from centering precisely. Some span and bandwidth settings it centers perfectly and in any case you can use the marker readout and the frequency counter readout to obtain very accurate results.
Good fix! I have 2 of these Kepco PSUs, a 25-4 and a 10-10. Both from Ebay, no electrical faults except one had the keyboard membrane worn out. Replaced all the caps anyway.
Thanks! It's been a reliable power supply since the repair.
Very informative and well worth watching.
I'm trying to think how someone would control a linear power supply in the digital domain. My guess is that they are using a high power pass regulator controlled through a digital potentiometer. If that is the case they must be using a very high precision digital potentiometer.
The voltage and current controls are done with 12bit DACs - Digital to Analog Converters. The microprocessor sends a 12 bit value to the DAC which represents the analog output value. The DAC converts the digital bits to an analog voltage. Series pass transistors driven by this voltage control the final output voltage and current. There are feedback loops for voltage, current, and other parameters but this is the basic idea.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Oh I never thought about the use of DACs. It makes sense due to the pass regulator being voltage controlled.
This is a high-quality video. Lots of works and troubleshooting involved and efforts to show and educate us all. Love it and thank you so much.
Thank you for the compliment and I am happy to know you enjoyed the video and found it helpful.
You could increase the integration time on the bench dmm for a more stable reading.
Great instructions. My 260 has a different problem and I'm hoping someone can help. When switched to either +DC, -DC or AC, the meter pegs on any voltage range selection. Still set at AC or +/-DC and move to any R setting, it stays pegged. Move to 1mA setting, meter reads 5.5 on the DC scale. Move to 10 or 100 mA and meter floats down to around .8 on the DC scale. Only visible problem I see is corrosion on the D battery -, and smaller black wire disconnected. I'll repair corrosion/wire but think D (and 9V) batts only used for R measure so not relevant to the issue. My meter has some different arrangements and markings on the panel - "Output" is labeled "+1V on mine, and AC and DC lead ports are different - mine shows "OUTPUT" left side with a 350 max VDC rating, right port AC/DC 1000V. Another diff is there's an OFF select on the far left of the AC/DC selector switch. Only manual I've found so far is one that matches your unit.
I think you have the series 8 model. www.simpson260.com/260-8/simpson_260-8.htm For the problem of the meter pegging full scale on so many ranges I'd start by looking at the shunt resistors across the meter movement. If the resistors are open or out of calibration the meter will have too much current through it and read full scale. This page has all the 260 models listed and links to manuals www.simpson260.com/downloads/downloads.htm
lucky repair ,normaly takes out the fet drivers when they go chernobyle!.
Yes I was surprised there was not more damage.
whats the max wattage output?.
750 VA which is 750 watts on purely resistive loads.
You're well versed and educated. I enjoy the format of your videos as well. I appreciate how you spend the right amount of time with explanation, repair, and some theory. Keep up with the same format and I think your channel will grow.
Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you are enjoying the channel. I appreciate the feedback!
Hey Erik, this was an awesome video thank you for taking the time to make this! I’m brand new to all of this and it’s getting me excited… I think I have a lead to an issue that I’m having. I have the TEAC A-3440 four channel simul-sync. I’m having this issue where the right arm dips out too fast and the tape keeps rolling. Sometimes it will even snap my tape. I opened the back up and it appears my solenoid plunger isn’t coming all the way out after I hit stop. This is on my R-take up reel. It keeps rolling eventually leading to snapped tape. I’m not sure how to go about cleaning that plunger. I’m also not sure if it’s a tension issue. Any help would be great!
Happy to know you enjoyed the video! If the right arm is dropping the take up tension may be the problem. The green colored resistors I show in the top of the unit set the take up and back tension. But you shouldn't mess with them unless you read up first in the service manual. If the right arm drops all the way down but does not shut off the machine there is a problem with the switch or the switch cam. Also check for stuck mechanisms like in this video, quite common to happen, my X-1000R had a similar issue with stuck capstan arms. service manual is posted here museumofmagneticsoundrecording.org/images/R2R/TeacA3440ServiceManual.pdf
@ Thank you for your quick response! When the right arm drops the machine does shut off. The R-take up reel (facing front) just spins a little longer than the L-reel (facing front). The L-reel solenoid plunger pops back out when I press on it and the R-reel solenoid plunger doesn’t pop back out the way the L-reel does. It’s feels like there’s less force pushing back on the R-reel solenoid plunger. Would adjusting the back tension, as shown in the manual, push that plunger out the way it’s supposed to? Or is it a dirt problem or possibly both you think? I just want to see how far I can narrow it down since this is my first time getting into the back of my machine.
@@fegyo1729 The tension adjust resistors would not affect the brakes. The brakes should only be on when the deck is stopped (or stopping). The solenoid might be sticking. You can try cleaning the plunger with isopropyl alcohol. If the reel motor or brake solenoid is being powered too long or at the wrong time compared with the other reel motor there might be an electrical problem in the control circuit. As a reference in my video at the end you can see how the machine should move the tape.
Thank you for another great video, I like that you explain a bit about devices and what you would expect to measure etc..... it's helpful "back in the head" clues for someone like me that never formally learned much about electronics.
I'm glad the videos on my channel are helpful for you. I appreciate the compliment. Thanks for taking time to watch!
I have the exact same model/config ScopeMeter. I didn’t even realize that it has an internal fan, so new fear unlocked. It would appear that Sunon discontinued making 40mm blowers, which is probably why Fluke cannot provide an exact replacement. Sunon does still make the 50mm size, so I wonder if one could modify the fan mounting to accommodate a slightly larger one, though I suppose that surely some other manufacturer makes a drop-in replacement. I was able to find that discontinued fan’s part number in an old Sunon fan/blower selection guide that provided key parameters for matching its performance as that model is two notches up from the minimum performance variant.
Your fan must be running very quietly! Yes Sunon seems to have discontinued the part that Fluke used. I have not found any other manufacture that makes a drop in replacement that has the side exhaust but it seems you can replace with a traditional axial flow fan as the side exhaust is not super critical. Mouser and DigiKey have some fans that are very thin and can be made to work although the hole mounting is usually slightly different. The lubrication I did on the fan has held up and it is still running quietly so that seems to be a lasting fix.
What a coincidence that you put out this video just two days after I analyzed the fault of my 66312B. These double red binding posts are nuts! I used the unit to check rechargeable batteries and sure enough, I killed it by switching polarity. Luckly HP added a crowbar and a fuse, but they decided to use a 4A Picofuse soldered into the mainboard at a not so easy to reach place. I understand that it is problematic to have a mechanically mounted fuse in a precision current path introducing contact problems. But they could have used solder-posts on the board for the fuse to be easily seen and changed. Checking the date of the video release, we both set in our labs, repairing an HP 66312 at probably around same time, plus minus cutting times. How funny is that!
Agree the two red posts are not the best idea when polarity connections matter. The power supply is well protected by a number of the pico fuses and yes agree they are rather inconveniently placed.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench I have to correct, I do have a 66312A and the white sticker on the PCB has an A printed on it. But all the bridges and resistors you mention are populated in my unit. Picofuses came in yesterday and the unit is now repaired. Despite its age and the little dim display, my unit is in great shape as all parameters from the test sheet in the user manual are in spec or right on the boudary. I'll calibrate the unit when my Solartron 7081 is back from calibration.
I loved working with those 6812B sources. We have 6 (3 HP and 3 Agilent) of those in the HW lab and are very reliable. I have used them about 15 years before I retired this year. Thank you for the video. It is very interesting to see the inside of the unit. We use it with AC Source GUI software for running IEC/IEEE power supply compliance tests. I can create test profiles to perform power supply tests such as voltage dips and run it with ACGui software. I trigger the oscilloscope via trigger output of 6812 during test runs. When we purchased newer Keysight 6812C it didn't work with the ACgui software. I called up service center and they said that we need to use newer software since ACgui software is obsolete and no longer supported. However, the nice tech on the phone told me that I just need to change the scheme in the unit setting from 6812C to 6812B to make compatible with the ACgui software. I believe the ACgui software is free download at Keysight.
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing your experience.
Being not drawn on the component layout usually means DNI. These are used in the tune(resistor selected at test) the balance of the circuit(remote sense) under cal in the hardware or software cal and then removed. Troubleshooting the nasty ripple in the output voltage should lead you back to one of these missing components if they are part of the problem .I wouldn't make any decisions until I see what Mr oscilloscope has to say. Great video. NØPXJ
The photo I found online of an identical A1 board had the components installed. They are drawn on the schematics and component layout, just not on the silkscreen. Restoring them solved the problem.
Any chance of a link to where you got the full schematics?
www.keysight.com/us/en/product/66312A/40-watt-dynamic-measurement-dc-source-20v-2a.html# scroll down a bit and click resources, then service manual.
I am not sure I am willing to believe that the missing components were there out of factory. maybe this had some, undocumented options installed. As all the jumpers are on the sensing side maybe you had to test the supply with a proper compensation mode selected. Maybe the output needed a cap and stuff like that and you had to use the rear terminals. I know that on the "big" brother models the 66309/19 there are setting to select the output compensation mode. What make me interesting is the missing resistor on the current path. It seems, as you suggested, to not ever be placed some maybe whatever option was done by HP didn't require that? Also as one of the jumper remove one resistor from the measure path can be that the option allowed lower/higher current measurement? In that case maybe the missing resistor lower the maximum current that can be output?
There are no documented options for this power supply modifying the voltage sensing or current control and I can't find any settings outside those covered in the user manual or service manual. But perhaps someone was trying to modify the unit or test it in a particular way.. hard to know for sure.
Odd someone removed those components 🤔
A lot of older HP equipment has both binding posts the same colour, I don’t know why they did that. What is the Keysights internal current shunt’s resistance, did you need to factor that in to the total resistance when you calibrated with the resistor?
There are two current shunts, the low range is 72.0 ohms, the high range is 0.250 ohms. The 1.1K resistor is listed in the calibration procedure. You don't need to factor in the internal shunts resistance when calibrating.
Yep, my 34401A has both red collars !
Nice repair! Now I want to know why someone would cut those jumpers and remove the resistor. A few month bought a non-working mobile communication source 66309D, which is fairly similar. (Un)fortunately only a 5A fuse was blown (normal operating current around 1/10 of that), so it was a rather quick/boring repair. I wouldn’t expect a substantial increase in accuracy when calibrating the unit from the rear terminals, at least when it comes to the current measurement. The voltage measurement might be a slightly different story obviously. The setpoint resolution of those older units generally isn’t all that spectacular imho, because back in the day they often used 12 bit DACs leaving much to be desired. Do you happen to know the resolution of this particular model?
Thanks! There are two 12 bit DACs, one for CV and one for CC modes. I'll try the calibration on the rear output just to be on the safe side but I agree it may not make much of a noticeable difference.
Interestingly the front panel has a 4-pole connector which theoretically would be usable for a sense connection closer to the output. But internally only a long twisted 2-pole wire runs from the switch on the rear to that connector. I could not find any additional sense solder points on the PCB. I am pretty sure that HP tried avoiding the additional pick-up of noise when running that set of wires along the whole inside of the unit. If you need more precision, you can setup the unit as shown in the calibration part of the unser manual, but you use Kelvin leads and move all calibration connections to the end of that lead. Explanation for beginners: You move the calibration pane to the connection of the system, not the front panel and rule out the losses over the wires. It is to be seen like Vector Network Analyzers where you run the TOSL calibration right there, where your unit under test is, so you do not measure RF parameters of the VNA connectors but the filter or whatever you designed and want to measure. I use the 66312 for testing PLL circuits as most of them run from 2V to 19V and then I use Kelvin leads to the rear connection.
@@uki352 I noticed the front panel connector has more pins than are used. Yes the kelvin leads as you describe can improve accuracy. Also it is possible to run the load on the front terminals and use the rear remote sense lines to the load and compensate for all voltage drops that way. Ultimately the internal 12bit DACs becomes the limiting factor in voltage and current accuracy.
Strange idea to have two times the same colors, nowadays you would think the Jack aren't original.
They are. Two red ones was common with older equipment.
@pa1wbu this makes no sense but I suppose 👀
@@Irilia_neko Older 34401A multimeters (HP era) have all red terminals as well.
@@Irilia_neko My HP 34401A has all red terminals.
It should be a damn law that the manual and documentation is this good for everything. I've still got a Krell KSL sitting in my pile of shame because of how 0 documentation is available.
You explained far batter than anyone on UA-cam
Thanks for the nice compliment!
Thank you for your video tutorial, it is much appreciated; you know by chance I got my hands on a 199c with details. Some have already been corrected but the fan is the biggest problem, it seems to be a Ratchet Noisemaker Rattle, I think the use of oil will no longer solve the high degree of wear of the blower bushing, It has to be replaced. I ask you: 1.- after a year how did it go with your equipment, if it was a long-term solution? or has the noise returned? 2.- the fan they use is radial (not axial) That is, they expel it at 90° in one direction But the fans on the market that I found 40x40x10 (originally 9mm) They are only AXIAL, Do you know if these equipment require maintaining a fixed air flow in one direction to maintain some heat current by Convection??? or it does not matter. Thank you for your answer
Glad the video was helpful! On my unit's fan it is still functioning very quietly. In fact I just used it a day ago on a new video I'm working on. I don't think the air direction, radial or axial, is all that important just as long as the fan moves some air around inside the instrument. UA-cam channel Feedback Loop repaired a Scopemeter and used a replacement traditional fan. It fits close but not quite the same way but does appear to work.
Thank you very much for your attention and for the references given ✌️, I will proceed to adapt a fan, I suppose that in your case you noticed as soon as the noise started and the oil managed to form a film that kept the fan arrow in place, I recommend that each battery replacement, give your fan its maintenance; In my case they were company equipment that had financial problems and sold off their equipment, you know, as long as it works and turns on the rest does not matter ☹️ I notice that you are an expert: I wanted to ask you: notice that the equipment has dust inside between the display and the external protective mica, and these equipments investigating have many details You recommend right now that I am going to open it, and that it is at hand to remove the display and With compressed air from a can (sweeping and sideways technique) and a microfiber cloth clean and then assemble carefully and without bending anything; I tell you this because in the lot I acquired there was also a fluke 43 and when I opened it to change the battery I decided to clean it because it had a lot of dust particles and I regret it, it had horizontal black lines and investigating I know that the 120 series has problems with its display and the flat cable soldered with an adhesive and a hot bar and over time they failed, I was very careful but a slight movement when assembling it had to make the black lines come out. Do you think that these scopes have the same technology as the 120 series and the display could fail? Better not touch it!!!
@@jmacedo7 On my Scopemeter I removed the display assembly from the case and cleaned the inside of the case window. I did not attempt to do any disassembly on the display module, that could be risky. I have heard that the black and white displays are more prone to lines than the color display but I do not know how true that is. I have only owned the color display model and had no issues with lines.
Beautiful instrument!
Thanks! Definitely a nice addition on the bench.
Can you repair mine? I need to see if anything is wrong. Seems the input is very weak even with a good pre amp.
Sorry I'm not taking in additional projects at this time as I have a backlog of projects waiting.
Hi, Thanks for the video. My capstan assembly will NOT slide out of the flywheel even with the set screws completely removed. It doesn’t matter how hard I push or pull in either direction. I have a pretty annoying tapping sound coming from either the capstan or the capstan motor itself, I can’t tell which. I measured the extent of the capstan shaft through the flywheel. It is actually at zero. I measured another TEAC a-3440 I have & it was dead on just like yours at 0.9 mm. Do you think that could be causing the tapping sound on the machine that is at zero on the shaft through the flywheel? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
There may be a burr or irregularity on the shaft or inside the flywheel that is not allowing the shaft to move. It could also have old oil that has become hardened and is stuck. You might try carefully heating the shaft and flywheel center with a heatgun, not too excessive though. Yes the tapping sound is probably endplay on the shaft since the shaft does not protrude past the flywheel. You might try pushing the flywheel forward until it stops and then tap the shaft forward (towards front of machine) using a soft wooden dowel. But don't hit it with excessive force. That may free up the shaft.
An Adcom needs a repair. Really. This is such a rare case.
The kit from N0DY is not avaiable. N0DY is deceased.
That's sad news. I did not know.
Often the switching power supplies require a minimum load on the “main” output. That is the one from where the controller gets its feedback. The other note or guess is that there could be a solder whisker at or under the capacitor that exhibited the low resistance. One more detail. My Dynaload has a current monitoring output from the built-in shunt. Yours is likely to also have one.
Yes some switchers do need a minimum load or they can't regulate properly. The data sheet for this model says that for less than 1 volt regulated output you need at least 500 mA. So for typical use at higher voltages as marked on the modules a minimum load isn't needed. Certain types of ceramic surface mount caps are prone to failing from stress as it cracks them or damages the structure since they have no flexible leads. There are surface mount caps designed to take flexing stress probably not what was used here. Yes the Dynaload has a current sample output. I recently did a video on another Dynaload model that needed repair ..you may be interested in seeing that.
Nice video ❤ thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
36:48 - odd values, I wonder why they did not use 2^n and start with 0.25 dB, that would with the same 10 relays give up to 255 dB in 0.5 dB steps. Or is more than 20 dB attenuator in one step just too hard to make ?
I think the values are chosen for what makes the most useable attenuation range. 0.25 dB would require the two top T configuration resistors to be 719.51 milliOhms perhaps more difficult (or costly) to make such small value of resistance? Also going up to 255 dB is such a huge attenuation it is not useful at low RF levels. This attenuator is 1 watt max. As it is 130 dB is down to fraction of a microvolt.
Thanks fo the video!
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
I have the Adcom GFA5500. The amp seems to function fine except when I power it off - I get a low pop on the right speaker and the actual cone of the speaker moves out when this occurs. Anyone have any idea if this is dangerous or not?
It's normal for the GFA5500 to pop when powering off. There is no speaker protection relay so the speakers are connected to the output stage at all times. As the power supply rails collapse the amp becomes unstable and a short pulse of voltage is applied to the speakers. It is not damaging, and the voltage is less than what the speaker is subjected to when playing loud music.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Thank you. Maybe I should clarify. The pop I referred to is more of a "whumph" (not loud but audible). The cone movement is quite noticeable and, as I mentioned, the event is only on one speaker. Your assessment is probably correct and there is nothing to worry about but I am going to sell this amp and do not want to pass on a faulty product. I'll see if there is a local expert on this amp. For now I am using a Schiit amp and I am very pleased with it. Much thanks!!!!!!
@@charlesclifton5896 I would check the amp for meeting rated output power, no distortion issues, etc and if all looks good then the turn off thump is not a concern and for whatever reason the one channel is just more prone to it. Agree good idea to have it tested to be on the safe side.