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You are still eligible for UC transfer admission as long as ALL of your units are from community college and you don't have any UC or four-year college upper-division units. Keep in mind you will only be allowed to apply a maximum of 70 semester toward your UC graduation unit requirement (but you will receive subject credit for all of the courses you completed).

You should be fine meeting minimum unit requirement. If all of your four-year college credits are from lower-division courses, you should not hit the maximum unit limit. If there is course (content) duplication between courses you took between the four-year college and CCC, you will only receive credit for a single course (for example, if you took a microeconomics class at the four-year college and took another microeconomics class at CCC, you will only receive credit for ONE microeconomics class, not both). You need to report all college courses you completed on the UC Application.

@@askmssun Thank you so much!

@@efm5882 I'm happy to help. My best wishes to you and good luck!

@@askmssun Thank you so much, I have one more question. If so, what will my GPA be? Will it be calculated by summing the two colleges? Or will only my GPA at CCC be considered? Thank you.

@@efm5882 All courses the UCs consider to be transferable, excluding duplicated courses (only the first course will count), will be calculated into the GPA used for transfer admission evaluation.

Units that are determined to not be UC-transferable would not count toward the limit. You can find UC guideline on what courses would be considered UC-transferable at admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/preparing-transfer-students/transfer-credit-practice.html

I asked to all the other UCs and they said they accept TAU until March but Cal answered kinda ambiguously, so I did not get if they were updating my course schedule with TAU submitted on Feb 28th.

When you submit additional updates, the campus is aware of them, but it's generally at the discretion of the campus to decide whether to take the new information into consideration (so there is often a disclaimer that they don't guarantee the information will be considered). In my experience, positive updates can be helpful and lack of updates can sometimes hurt the student (for example, if you had an English class in Winter, which is an eligibility requirement, updating the UCs that you completed the course and received a good grade can sometimes be the difference between getting admitted and getting waitlisted/rejected). Again, Berkeley may not want to obligate itself to review every single change that comes in, but in specific instances (finishing English, math, major preparation requirements), an update may sway the campus (it certainly wouldn't hurt, unless you were dropping classes or reporting bad grades).

@@askmssun Thank you for the reply. Your replies helped me a lot (maybe more than the school counselors..)! I got into Irvine, I wanted to tell you ...smth like the students telling their results to their teachers... Ms. Sun, I appreciate you. Hope you have a good day :))

@@dohandoh Glad I could help and congratulations!!!

Your chance of coming off the waitlist depends on how many admitted students commit to Davis (and perhaps CS specifically - it is a very popular major and Davis has to keep an eye on the number of students coming in) and there isn't a good way to predict what the masses might do. For the appeal, it's up to Berkeley to decide if the information you provide is compelling. If you want to appeal, go ahead and see what happens.

Within any length limit of the campus, take as much room as you need to explain everything fully; don’t needlessly make the appeal too long or too short.

There are different pros and cons to being a resident vs. nonresident applicant and it’s not always going to be obvious which might be more advantageous to your situation. I would say go with whatever your gut tells you because there is no right answer and it’s a gamble either way.

Stick to the facts, quantify the challenges and their impact on your academic achievements, and emphasize how/why you are capable of succeeding academically at UCI.

@@askmssun How much should I talk about it (i.e. what percentage of the letter)? Also, it asks for other documents if I have some, what are the strongest types of "documents"?

@@Daniel-pp8cn I don't know what you plan to talk about so I don't know how much you should talk it. I don't know anything about you or your situation so I can't really comment on what documents you should submit.

I asked them and they just rolled over. I think that means they wish you good luck.

If you are talking about courses only for IGETC (not for major prep and excluding Areas 1A, 1B, and 2), you can have up to 14 semester (21 quarter) units P/NP.

@@askmssun Thank you for your reply, Ms.Sun. I just have one more question, I would appreciate it if you could answer me. So, If I take a class in Area 3B P/NP in the winter quarter (when is included in the last two quarter), is there a possibility of UCLA, UCB, and UCSB rescinding the admission offer in the future? I saw some provisions stuffs related to admission contracts on the reddit and college confidential, and found that most of ppl are required to get no more than two Cs. I am concerned bc I am taking one in P/NP, not letter grade. I am sure that I am going to pass this GE course, though. Will this affect the admission offer in the future?

@@dohandoh The UCs can cancel admission offer if you don't pass courses and/or have a low semester/quarter GPA in Winter and/or Spring. This is the case regardless of whether some of your courses are P/NP grading.

As long as your CSU units are lower-division, you will NOT reach senior standing. Keep in mind that you are still subjected to the "transfer credit limitation" of 70 semester units (you can only apply a maximum of 70 semester units toward your UC graduation unit requirement but you will retain subject credit for all transferable courses you completed).

@@askmssun awesome, thank you for confirming!

I constantly see students screw up the unit calculation because they forget to convert quarter to semester units or vice versa. If you have 56.5 UC quarter units (37.67 UC semester units), you can only take up to 63 quarter units (42 semester units) at community college before you exceed the unit cap for Berkeley, Davis, Merced, and Riverside. You can take up to 73 quarter units (48 semester units) for UCLA, and up to 78 quarter units (52 semester units) for Irvine, San Diego, Santa Barbara, and Santa Cruz.

@@askmssun I see, thanks! I would imagine exceeding 63 quarter units is pretty unlikely within 1 year at community college. So as long as I stay below that I should be fine to apply to all campuses correct?

@@sanjaynaidu4961 "Normal load" for an an academic year, as well as the minimum number of units you need to complete to qualify as a CCC transfer, is 30 semester units. If you add a class or two over the summer (such as making sure you will complete the English requirement for UCI TAG), it's not that difficult to get to or exceed 42 semester units (you may also have lots of major prerequisite and IGETC requirements you need to complete). I've definitely seen students who have/would become ineligible to transfer due to the unit limitation (this is especially a problem for STEM majors).

Berkeley has said that students applying to MET/GMP are automatically considered for admission to the campus (engineering or L&S) if not admitted to Haas.

Most UCs publish waitlist numbers for the previous year, you can dig them out of the campus updates at admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/events/counselor-conference.html. If you want more information (such as numbers from years prior), I have some resources posted at askmssun.com/uc-waitlist-appeal-cancellation-numbers/.

Short answer is yes. Long answer (because it is SO complicated) is at admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/_files/documents/quick-reference.pdf on page 35 (gives you examples of how community college courses have a different set of rules than UC courses). One piece of advice for everyone applying for UC admission: you will NEVER get a Yes or No answer for ANY question you ask about admissions (because, like the tax code, there are always a minimum three caveats/exceptions for every Yes or No answer).

Hang in there 🫂

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I think only UCLA specifically asks you to report senior year first semester grades. Berkeley and Davis give you the option to report senior year first semester grades. I'm relatively certain the other UCs just have a one-click waitlist opt-in (no additional information requested/allowed).

@@askmssun Thank you!

@@dylansan4367 I'm happy to help. If you just applied, it's probably too early to worry about this. Focus on your finals and then enjoy your winter break. Admission-related stress will still be here when you come back.

You cannot reach senior standing if all you have completed is lower-division coursework (California community colleges generally do NOT offer any upper-division coursework).

Thanks!

The part that really confuses me is why If you have only CC credits you can have as many as you want but if you have any upper div. credits those get added to all of the CC credits you have. So if I have 32 upper div credits my cap for all lower div and CC units would be lower than 48 units. Is that correct? Thank you so much for your help.

UC units all count toward the cap and you most likely have already exceeded the ceiling. The UCLA Music School may not use the cap, you will need to contact the school directly to inquire.

@@daisyfaragher Correct.

@@daisyfaragher See my previous answer.

@@askmssun Ok. Thank you for your response!

Freshman applicants are generally not admitted by major, except for engineering (there are some campus-specific variations though). Transfer applicants are generally admitted by major.

If you have already been admitted for Spring and all of your credits are from CC (no UC or 4-year upper-division units), you may take additional courses during the Fall. However, you need to inform the campus of your intention to take CC classes during the Fall AND you are required to earn passing/decent grades in any UC-transferable courses you take (you can't go around failing/not passing UC-transferable courses because the campus may consider that to be unacceptable performance and cancel your admission offer).

That's what I would expect. Although there will be some "melt" (people who commit but then never show up) so sometimes the campuses may make some admission offers during the summer (by the time someone misses the housing deadline and didn't sign up for orientation, the campuses know those people aren't coming). The number tends to be small so don't get your hopes up.

UCI does not have a waitlist statement and, generally speaking, unsolicited materials will not be reviewed.

Admission from waitlist depends largely on the size of the initial admit pool and the yield from that pool, the size of the waitlist opt-in pool, and how quickly everyone else gives up. Kind of a crapshoot going forward.

UCSD only considers junior-level transfers. Transfer admission is convoluted and confusing (intercampus transfer even more so). This is not a yes or no question; rather, it requires extensive discussion and back-and-forth to plan (I offer a service if you want to sign up; $520).

Opt-in onto the waitlist and wait. Students offered waitlist option at UCSD are not allowed to appeal and there is no waitlist statement (unsolicited materials are not reviewed).

Thank you so much for your reply.

I’m happy to help.

UCLA publishes its admission stats online and, currently (Fall 2021, a pandemic year), the median weighted GPA for admitted freshman applicants is 4.54 (median, meaning you are in the middle, if you have a 4.54): admission.ucla.edu/apply/freshman/freshman-profile

I should also point out that, for a student taking 6 classes each school year, two AP/Honors in 10th + four AP/Honors in 11th + straight A's will yield a 4.5 GPA.

I want to add that, I never said 4.5 is the "lower limit for UCLA." I encourage students to aim for 4.5 because it's just very difficult to get into UCLA with anything less than a 4.5.

There isn't an official way to figure out which units the UCs will accept. You can review the guideline published by the UCs at admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/Transfer_Credit_Practice.pdf to make an educated guess. In terms of whether you will exceed the maximum cap, as long as your credits are NOT "upper level" (third or fourth year college courses), you should be ok.

Your appeal will be reviewed as long as it is submitted by the deadline.

Call the campus, ask to speak to a transfer admission officer, and ask what the issue was with your TAG.

@@askmssun thank you so much

@@angierubio8368 My best wishes to you and good luck!

You can try to make an argument with the learning differences. But know that, if the requirement is a B, then the C is not going to cut it.

That is entirely up to you. It's difficult to say exactly how much the waitlist statement will matter (because it also depends on what information you are adding).

@@askmssun Thank you for the quick response! I was reading that some good additions are really emphasizing why UCLA is a good fit for me and vice versa. I never really specified that in my transfer application, so should I think about stating that?

@@nothingbutcake Sure, I have more pointers at ua-cam.com/video/U0n3yyDAMBc/v-deo.html

@@askmssun Thank you so much!

@@nothingbutcake I'm happy to help.

Depends on how many admitted students choose to SIR with Berkeley (and for your major). If not enough of them do, then Berkeley will admit students from the waitlist. For help on writing your waitlist statement, watch my video here: ua-cam.com/video/U0n3yyDAMBc/v-deo.html

Did you get in?

I only work with students on UC undergraduate admissions. There was a possibility that UCLA may release decisions today, but it doesn't look like it will happen.

If you can quantify the difficulties and discuss how you coped/overcame them to achieve academic success, sure.

You can appeal to as many UCs as you want; the campuses do not "compare notes." You should discuss whatever will showcase you as someone who can succeed at the college level.

@@askmssun thank you!! i was also wondering when the college asks for the “basis of the appeal” what does that mean? because SB asks that but then they mention how we shouldn’t talk about our desire to attend there. so i’m just a little lost what this question means

@@dg4403 Basis of appeal = What compelling reason do you have for UCSB to reconsider you for admission.

The UCs are looking for very specific information in the Personal Insight Questions and most college application advice you get online or from books tend to be the exact opposite of what you are supposed be doing. Almost all of the applications I'm reviewing now (for appeal and waitlist) lack the same kind of information: why the student wants to attend college (the UCs in particular)/what role college (UC) education will play in the student's future plans, how the student has proven his or her capacity for academic success (with and beyond coursework and grades), what value the student will bring to the campus community (potential for positive contributions). When everyone has at least a 4.2 GPA, providing the kind of information UCs are looking for becomes the differentiating factor. Also remember that the GPA published on the UC admission website is capped; most UCs are looking fully weighted GPA for admission evaluation and the average for Berkeley and UCLA is now in the 4.5 to 4.6 range.

If the campus requested the grades, you should provide them (even if they are optional), since not providing them may look suspicious (and do more damage than the actual grades).

Berkeley will let you know between May and June.

Most UCs don't allow you to appeal if you are waitlisted.

@@askmssun ok but can i still write love letters to the schools that waitlisted me?

@@jadezan2413 Do you really need to ask anyone's permission to do something you clearly desperately want to do?

@@askmssun thanks for the answer😭 & i will just go for it

@@jadezan2413 My best wishes to you and good luck!

Did you put a non-selective major as your alternate? If you did, the admissions office should have considered that. You can also try to get in touch with a transfer admission officers and inquire about why you were not admitted; they're usually pretty good about pulling your application and giving you an explanation.

@@askmssun I chose 2 selective majors so that was my fault. How would I get in touch with a UCSB admission officer?

@@circaprodigy3271 There should be a contact form of some sort in your applicant portal. If not, use the form at admissions.sa.ucsb.edu/contact-us

UCs generally don't accept unsolicited information. If you have something to add, you need to submit through established channels, such as the appeal process.

@@askmssun alright thanks for the info. Your appeal composition video was very useful so thank you for the help!

@@svoidmist Glad to hear that. My best wishes to you and good luck!

Watch the appeal video and look at my appeal guide at askmssun.com/uc-freshman-appeal-guide/ (will be updated soon).

You only need to opt in for UCI, no interest letter needed (UCI won't look at one anyway).

@@askmssun Hey Ms. Sun thank you for the video. I was wait listed at UCSD and SCU, do you know if these schools allow continued interest letters as well? Thank you so much.

@@MattheosDrivas UCSD does not require nor review waitlist statement or letter of interest. I don't know about SCU.

@@askmssun okay, thanks, also do you know if people are selected off the waitlists at random? or is there an order and they just don't let us know. Thank you again :)

@@MattheosDrivas All of the UCs say they don't rank the waitlist, but who knows.

Congratulations!!!

You should opt-in onto the waitlist and provide additional information in the optional waitlist statement. You have a much better chance of coming off the waitlist than to be admitted from appeal.

Ms. Sun thank you for replying. I understand the appeals are rare, but I do feel that I have a compelling argument. I was (single mom) dealing with trauma from my father’s recent death when I applied to the art school....I failed to provide full the context of my personal qualities in my answers to the personal insight questions. I believe I can prove myself to be better qualified than I’d previously shown. With that said, do you still think the waitlist is the best option?

@@aliciateele4327 Use the waitlist statement as your appeal. Not opting-in onto the waitlist significantly reduces your chance of being admitted.

Ms. Sun gotcha! Thank you, I appreciate your advice.

@@aliciateele4327 My best wishes to you and good luck!