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As did I, just the instructions I followed made no mention of them (I also do try that mid way through 👍)

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Good to know nooowww 🤣

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Only by including something in the scene that is only on/off when the scene is active. Then you can check that device’s state in the automation (could even be a very specific light brightness that you check).

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs can this be done natively in the Home app or will it need to be done in Homebridge or a 3rd party app? I have some spare smart plugs that are not being used for that purpose.

@@bungeholegymtestkitchen9888 you can go either way. Either use a spare plug as a “movie time” switch to check in the automation or start creating virtual switches in HomeBridge. And you can check the switch in a shortcut style automation then with an IF action wrapped around the whole thing, or put it before and Stop This Shortcut if the switch is on.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs okay, I’ll try it out. For some reason I’ve been really struggling to figure out shortcuts.

@@bungeholegymtestkitchen9888 there’s a definite learning curve to it.

I set it up using the Matter integration (which is not easy in itself) so it only exposes the same switch as in the video, So just basic on/off control to clean everywhere. If you're interested in adding Matter devices to HA check out a video I made going through the hurdles I faced getting it setup: ua-cam.com/video/Ink2kFRZPhs/v-deo.htmlsi=w6U6FcHPrab2o5wW Hope this helps 👍

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs Thank you! You also mentioned in the video, that you connected it to HA before the Matter integration was available or did I get that wrong? :)

Ah yes it wasn’t exactly “connected” actually, I enabled the IFTTT integration and setup and applet to trigger it to clean everywhere and triggered that from HA.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs Thank you!

1.2.6_0001.0077

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs Hmm, I have 1.2.5_0003.0074 and the update is not offered

Odd, may still be rolling out.

@@nexo12 same here, i have 2 FP2 sensors in 1.2.5, spotted as "up to date".

@@khaynn2112 China or global version?

The Aqara cube is battery powered so you can leave it on your table or perform gestures from just about anywhere in your home. And it’s Zigbee connected so requires one of their hubs which all support Apple Home 👍

May need to post a screenshot of your automation. Also longer term I highly recommend the Aqara FP2 presence sensor for rooms where you sit very still for long periods of time. Link to them is on my website, I have them in my lounge/kitchen/bathroom 👌

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs Hi, Thanks for the reply its most appreciated. i keep posting replies with iCloud links to my screenshots, but the reply comment disappears?

@@adamrobinson2696 oh weird, send them to my email james@hiwtsi.uk and I’ll take a look

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs All emailed. Thanks

I definitely thought about this, but ultimately that would only buy me more time, and cost me in real world use. As the best way to condense many of them would be to convert to shortcut and they run a fair bit slower, especially the more complex they get.

Yeah assuming you mean the SwitchBots, you can as long as you have one of their hubs. Links to all are on my website. (their Hub 2 supports Matter so can be linked to any major smart home ecosystem)

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs awesome thanks 👍

Then you are only checking at the end of the timeout, not that there has been no motion throughout. So someone moving in the interim will not break the timeout.

Not a bad idea, will have to see if I get a reliable trigger for “door closed” from the lock 🤔 I’m using Home Assistant for this particular automation, as I wanted the sign to switch as quick as possible. So when “visitor turned on” it sends a message via MQTT to the sign we built to change its message and unlock the door, then after a few more seconds it updates again with another message and then waits 90 seconds to re-lock.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs anyway to do it without Home Assistant? I do have Homebridge set up.

@@Techlifeandmore Yeah you could achieve the same thing (if you can get a sign that supports it) using web hooks in a Shortcut style automation all within HomeKit. I did have it setup this way, but HA was just quicker to get the sign to show what I needed as quick as possible from the moment the doorbell was pressed, before the courier misses it.

I’m using home assistant for this particular automation. I’ve given a basic overview in my comment below. But I may make a longer form video explaining it soon 👍

To be honest I did have similar trouble, as I was trying to setup 3 different TVs across my home. So kept having to restart the plugin (which I made a child bridge) in order to get it to re-initialise the links each time, and then had to be quite quick to get one done and repeat the process.

Yeah especially if you are already down the HomeBridge rabbit hole, this makes it super easy to find your TVs and expose actually useful switches/sensors for controlling and automating based on what your ATV is doing.

You will need to ensure your device is up to date in order to support the action which kicks you out. You might also need to check Settings > Shortcuts > Advanced and enable "Delete Without Confirmation" when it prompts you to delete a file.

I may follow up with a video on this. But for now what you will need to do is pick one of those trigger, and then manually check the other within the Shortcut. In the scenario you described (assuming you are still connected to your wifi when you get in the car) I would make the automation trigger on bluetooth connection to the car, then in the Shortcut run Get Network Name and check if it is the same as your home wifi and if so continue to do what you want. This is a MUCH quicker way of checking you are home than using Location checks.

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Yeah I had the same thing, took me a long time to work out that I need to repeat and check in order to avoid a situation where you come and go in and out and then the lights turn off really quickly after leaving near the end of the initial timer (or have multiple effectively running the bg resulting in really weird behaviours). But not as big of an issue on the FP2 since it doesn’t need a timeout the same way motion sensors do 👍

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I originally used this trick with a Hue sensor, it should work with any as I now use it with several different Aqara ones. I would recommend checking your wait time is slightly longer than the hue sensor timeout (probably 30s) and ensure you have all the actions in the correct places.

Glad I could help :) Out of interest, what was your issue with the Eve sensors? They are actually one of the few you usually might not always need this method for, as they have lots of configurable timeout options (although I still do with mine).

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIsthe same issue, there is no option to switch off the light after N minutes of inactivity. Tried the Home app and Eve's app, no luck. your approach helped.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs eve mention suck the automation never turns off bulb

@@Viewer765 do they turn the lights on ok?

I totally agree, it's a huge oversight not to have a simpler option for this sort of thing. But at least once you understand this technique you can do more interesting things with it. Like have a 2 tier timeout, where after 2 minutes the lights dim to warn anyone in the room that they are about to turn off, then if they move it turns them back up, otherwise 10 seconds later if there is still no motion turn them off.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs Ooo I like that too. Do that video for us? But, I've copied IF statements before exactly and they often do not execute as expected. I usually end up truncating it so that part of it runs. Another challenge I have is writing script for running two IF conditions. E.g. If there's no motion (for x time) and If the door is open, then turn off light.

I use some of these conditions in my bathroom, so I'll try and make a video on it soon :) Until then, it might help you to know that within the loop, I check each different device one after the other NOT nested within each other and that seems to work for me.

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Good question, you can add another IF action as we have put in the loop. It depends at what point you want to check for the door being closed. I would suggest at the end of the timeout most likely. So drop it in at the end and put your final action to turn off the lights within the new IF, then tap the IF condition and select Home Accessory, select the contact sensor, and change contact sensor state to Open, so that it only turns off the lights if the door is still open. Hope this helps!

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs thank you so much. I will try that later tonight. Just curious what's the difference between the way you have shown in the video vs just doing the automation with let say "turn off" after like 60 seconds, 1 or 3min, etc.

The issue with that is that it's not tied to the event that triggered it, like motion. So new motion does not reset that timer. For example if you have a 1m timeout and go into a room and then sit still for 50 seconds, then move it will still turn the lights off at the defined 1m. Whereas the loop above will detect that new motion event and cancel the loop until there's no motion again for a long enough time to finally turn them off.

@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs gotcha, not sure apple has updated the system but in my office, I have the "turn off" set to 5min for my motion sensor and if it detects any motion within that 5min, it resets the timer. I added another "if" to work with the door sensor and it works great. thanks again

No problem, that is weird though whenever I've tried it it's behaved as I described, perhaps I need to do more testing with newer updates. You do get much greater flexibility though as you've seen with your example, I personally have a check at the end of my loop which checks a contact sensor on my shower door so the lights don't turn off when someone is in there as the motion sensor won't detect someone through the door.

Strange, I got an FP2 myself last week and I'm using the same trick with it for timeouts on various automations just fine. Are you able to post some sort of link to a screenshot of the entire automation so I can take a look? My best guest would be your repeat frequency is too short, I have noticed that when I went below about 5 seconds for the Wait action within the Repeat, the automation would sometimes just break and my light would never turn off.

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@@HomeIsWhereTheSmartIs curious what numbers you use for the FP2 as it's timeout seems pretty fast?

Sounds like what you want is much simpler. Just go into the Home app and tap the + to create an automation, select the HomePod mini humidity sensor then "Drops Below" and set it to 55% and it should move onto what you want to control. Select your fan and tell it to turn off and you're all done.

Not sure if I made it clear enough in the video, but that's purely a shorthand to save you from pressing the + button 20 times to get a 20 second wait. So if you want you can just do what you said and hit + on the Wait action to get it to 20s and skip the # Number action 👍

Oh like a variable! Nice!