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yup - that's the way to do it on the moon where you start of pretty much on the equator. Not sure what the devs have planned for the starting location(s) once the new terrain system is implemented - maybe we'll be able to select equatorial starts on the other worlds too...

@@54bear fair point, i didn't realize you didnt spawn on the equator on all planets, been a while and im just now getting back into it

As far as I recall, the lander capsule has the same starting supplies as a non-brutal start - one bag of water bottles, one bag of cereal bars. Although I haven't done a normal start in quite a while. STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Whilst I am NEVER WRONG, there MAY be occasions where I am less than 100% accurate... ;)

at the 6:45 mark I show how the furnace is piped up. Basically, there is a short bit of pipe connected to the furnace outlet port (the outlet on the basic furnace has no valve, whereas the inlet port has a built in one way valve) which then branches into three - one is the emergency vent (controlled by a manual valve), the other 2 have volume pumps that are used to pump waste gas into or out of the storage tank. Once you get the tier 2 pipe bender, you can use a single turbo pump as that can switch directions.

Was wondering if they were used for something, guess I'll just leave them be for now lol

Welcome aboard! I use the Normal difficulty for all my play throughs. I DO have some mods running - render distance, better headlight, actual solar irradiance (which actually weakens solar panels on Europa and Mimas), but nothing that should affect battery life. For Europa, you really want to keep your batteries out of the world atmo as much as possible - carry them in your backpack until you have a fully vacuumed out room and/or hab with room temperature atmo. Build station batteries in similar rooms - I keep mine in the hab to benefit from their heating effect in the early stages and cooling on Europa isn't that much of a problem

no - but Cows Are Evil (aka St Mick of the MIPS) did something that sent alerts to a hard suit using logic transmitter that flashed the headlamp. I don't know it for a fact, but I'm pretty sure you cannot send sounds to the hardsuit.

So they fixed that? I will have to check that out. Although I kinda prefer the drinking from bottles thing as you can still look/move around while slurping. (Mrs Bear tells me I need to work on my multitasking).

Glad you found something of use

short answer? I don't. Temps in the room get well below -100C when the stirlings are not running. Whilst not 'realistic" (lubricants and seals would be seriously compromised in the real world) the game allows stirlings to get that cold and still fire up when activated. Trick is to have the right gasses at pressures where they wont freeze and burst pipes on the coolant side. A liquid drain may be needed when setting it up to purge any co2 or pollutants.

​@@54bear You could also use Nitrogen and just let it cool to whatever. Supposedly, the "environment" temperature on the Moon in Stationeers is 50K, which means Nitrogen would become liquid but would not freeze. I am currently experimenting with this very thing. The ridiculous solution I came up with for cooling a room, since I was too inept to reliably handle the nitrogen in gas form when it was in the liquid pipes etc., was to just have a huge pipe radiator forest outside ... but also a bit inside, so it would constantly cool. Thing is, that part would be in a box that can be opened/closed with a door, and when the decision is to close it (because room cool enough), a vent would also evacuate it so it becomes ineffective.

Once the console is fully built (gas circuit board and glass panel), turn it on and put the data disk in the slot (it's on the side opposite the power switch). At the top of the display you can select either pressure or temperature, then on the scrolling part below you can select the 'thing' that you want console is to read. You will need to make sure the 'thing' is connected by wire on the same network - and if you have multiple things (like tanks) on the same wiring network, you should rename them so you can distinguish between them. If you don't have the labeller, then you can cut the wires to all but the thing you want to read, setup the console(s) for it, then cut the wire to the thing, connect to the next one to be setup and repeat. Once all consoles are configured, reconnect all the cables and you are good to go. The game remembers configuration settings when wires are removed and then re-added. But if you deconstruct the thing and then put it back, the game won't know its there until you re-select it. This applies to any device that has a logic output (sensors, logic chips, printers...etc)

@@54bear Thanks all set will give it a tester on some alloy for the MKII tools

im a subsriber on your channel and big fan...thanks for the help

I tend to go a bit overboard on consoles when it comes to the furnace... but as far as configuration goes, I have pairs of consoles reporting temperature and pressures of; - 2 consoles for each of the 3 tanks (6), - 2 for the 'hotbox', - 2 for the inlet/outlet manifold - and 2 for the furnace itself. Then there is an additional console showing the 'content' of the furnace. All of the temperature and pressure consoles use 'gas display' circuit boards (made in Electronics printer) - when placed in a console, you use the data disk (also made in Electronics printer) to 'point' that display to a thing that has gas type logic outputs - most commonly tanks or pipe analyzers - you also get to select between pressure and temperature for that display. Obviously, you have to connect the tanks data output to your wiring network. The furnace contents display uses a hash display circuit board - also pointed at the furnace with the data disk. When it comes to setting all the consoles up, it helps A LOT to have the tanks named beforehand - and I usually have the furnace isolated on its own power network behind a small transformer - which is a handy master power switch as those consoles use 50W each. Hope that answered your question - let me know if there's anything you'd like expanded or are having troubles with. :D

honest answer? I'm lazy and the whole 'math' thing makes my brain hurt :D Slightly longer answer - On Europa there really isn't the need to farm crops for their O2 - I tend to make my starter base on the small side and pack it with the machines and batteries - all of which warm the base up. When it gets to the point that cooling is needed, I just pump in some cold O2 from outside, and if the pressure gets too much, the filtration pulls the room temperature O2 into storage for tank filling (and later on other stuff). The next hurdle is making sure the plants have enough CO2. For a small starter base, the waste tank is usually enough, but at some point you have to deal with collecting and cooling CO2 (and maybe Nitrogen as well).

@@54bear Ah. I was thinking more along the lines of filling tanks without disrupting your base air, but if you're constantly cycling air for cooling/pressure anyways, that doesn't matter so much.

I would, but the in-game lights are a bit underpowered (in my opinion), so I use the headlight enhancement mod which brightens things up for me and you tube. But more importantly, I seriously suck at designing nice base interiors - I hardly ever put any walls up on the insides, and usually only put flooring down when I get fed up with rolling off things scattered on the floor. As for finding my way home, I have a proximity controlled beacon atop a tower about 12 blocks high.

@@54bear The battery powered portable light is cheap to make and when held in your inventory, is extremely bright and uses less power than the weak headlight embedded in the suit.

I'm S L O W L Y getting into it - spent a lot of years in IT running and hiding from learning assembly - only to end up learning it to play a game... But it does share the same major drawback as all other programming languages - It insists on doing what I tell it to do, and not what I WANT it to do

lol - yeah. A real head scratcher, right? ;)

My experiences with nitrous fuels have been... less than optimal. If it didn't explode, then it froze, pipes burst and all the fuel went bye-bye. There is a fundamental problem with the games implementation of phase changes that my brain is ill-equipped to handle - I get the concept ok, it's just that when it comes to actually managing the infrastructure, something always goes wrong. One key learning thing (for me) was that temperature changes only happen when phases actually change - which is not the way things work in real life. As for the mining thing - I just blast away in a circle above where the last nugget was - generally if there was nothing within a one drill radius, I move on.

@@54bear yes, you are right. Real physics and game mechanics are different. Just look if you expand gases they should drop in temperature or compressing them should make them hotter. Nothing like this happens, but thats fundamental (Joule-Thomson-Effekt not implemented (yet)). And phase changes is still something i have not fully understand (well the game mechanik, not the real physik).

To be honest - my 4 tank furnace is a pretty silly implementation - it's just something I wanted to try. Simple is ALWAYS better, I mean you can use either furnace without any form of automation - trial and error will get you to the amount and mix of ices you'd need to reach the temperature/pressure combinations needed for each of the alloys. Having said that, I would recommend the use of a 'hotbox' design, as it virtually eliminates the problem of the furnace cooling down - you can always crowbar the glass out of the frame if you need to for a specific temperature

Normal - Stationeer difficulty is do-able, but the constant eating and drinking make recording longer sessions more of a problem.

@@54bear Well thank you. I play it on stationeer difficulty (Brutal start) and I only manage to fill the container with oxygen, eat and drink in a small chamber and a constant problem with energy....

Thanks for letting me know - I _think_ I have them correctly sorted now - oldest at the top

Excellent points! I've only recently gotten my head into using IC code as my old brain had a lot of trouble grasping some of the basic fundamentals (too many years working with higher level languages meant I had some 'un-learning to do first). My first run on Europa was intended to not use IC code at all, but the problem was the amount of real estate all those chips take given that I tend to make smaller bases than most.

I will do a vid on the fundamentals on logic values and how/why they can be used. A quick way of thinking about them is that they are 'measurements' of something the item in question has or uses. Just about every item in the game that has an electrical connection will have a bunch of logic values you can access or manipulate in some fashion - but having said that, the vast majority of them you will probably never want or need to use. A good way to get familiar is to print a Configuration cartridge (electronics printer), put it in your tablet and point it at electrically powered things. That will show you the current values of all the 'things' that device knows about

I will give the hot planets another try soonish - but not on 'brutal' - I need to improve my understanding of how the game handles phase change mechanics first.

Yeah, I know the ice crusher thing is a bit on the cheaty side - I really should explore other ways of melting ice in the early game - maybe go back to a dedicated room to use the sunlight to melt it and an active vent to suck it into pipes

If you're putting the tank in your suit, surely it would heat up to the suit temperature. Otherwise the tank would cool to ambient over time, and even the starter tank would need the gas to be heated on use. It is also quite notable how fast the suit reheats the whole thing after one of the many power outages ;) so it is already heating the internal air with battery power one way or another.

If actual in-game rocket travel is ever put back into the game, I would absolutely do a planet hop type game - Moon -> Mars -> Europa -> Mimas -> Vulcan ->Venus. Not how sure the asteroid/space map would figure into it, but I think that's a bit broken right now - very few asteroids to mine and no 'new' ones spawn in when you travel in any direction and as I dont think there IS a bedrock for asteroids, deep miners would be useless.

I would probably do the underground thing If I ever do another game on Venus - and maybe a partial underground on the moon. A while back (well before phase change) I had a Vulcan base that was partially in a mountain - complete with a lava basement.

I don't think so - I believe shadows cast by anything solid will reduce their output (player, welded frames, walls and such), but windows - and their frames - are basically completely transparent. Or not. I think. Maybe. {insert standard legal disclaimer here} We will find out. Possibly...

​@@54bearI think they do lose a little bit of power, much worse if you place your solar panels immediately beside each other. That's why I cover them on venus/vulcan (and pressure regulate them), but I leave them exposed on europa. Duct tape repair can get tedious, that's why I only use around 4 or so, until I get a Stirling Gen setup - europa is the best/easiest planet in the game to use stirlings and GFGs due to the infinite cooling and infinite fuel.

Just ignore that you answered my question right after I hit post haha.

Glad to have you along! Stationeers has quite the learning curve, but taking some time to master the basics is well worth it. And remember - in this game there is no such thing as a silly question. Only silly piping ;)

yup. white is a bit too intense, but I think yellow or orange should be better

Glad to hear it!

In my opinion, you don't manually process enough cobalt during a save to merit a seperate process. And for simplicity's sake, you generally want to keep your biomass processing seperate from ore processing, or you'll be setting up a bunch of sorters and have to manage a lot of gas processing apart from the volatiles.

Check out Rob's base showcase - ua-cam.com/video/OYpYXPOrHBM/v-deo.html Very impressive and well worth your time :D

I second this advice for all portables, canisters and crates.

Now THAT is a great idea! I have been toying around with the idea of a stirling dedicated to only cooling the steam - although I suspect I may need another water filtration to speed up the extraction of the steam from the other hot waste. Definitely going to give this a go. Big thanks :D

@@54bear if you put the steam-filter(s) behind the stirlings you get enough flow trough them to both generate a lot of energy and cool the steam/gasses. I use 3 stirlings per burner to go from ~2300°C to ~800°C while generating about 21KW of "free" power. CO2 is taken out right after the burner as furnace gas.