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@@laurasluder9816 Agreed! I bought the poultry net so I had spare for the laying hens when not in use for the sheep. Honestly I don't know that I'd have sheep if I had to use any type of netting for then all the time. If they won't stay in 3 strand electric they find another home somewhere else. I just wanted netting to bale graze to keep them on task and not tempt then to get out into the rest of the bales. Thanks for the comment.

@ I wish I could use 3 strand electric. It is so much cheaper and easier!My situation is tough because my place is on both sides of an extremely busy highway and I can’t risk them getting out. I also do urban grazing projects with the sheep and need to keep dogs out.

@laurasluder9816 I made a decision long ago that if sheep were gonna live here they had to stay behind three strand otherwise it wasn't worth it. In the urban situations though I'd want the netting too. I train them to three and the ones that get out obviously don't want to be here so I'm happy to oblige them on that with a trip in the trailer.

@@obiemakamson4802 the purple Purina tubs are made for sheep and goats. High protein and fat I believe. On poor quality hay they will eat more than they are supposed too, on stockpile they won't hardly touch them. Now that they are back on stockpiled grass I've discontinued using them. Because we're still in a drought here I'm feeding soy hull pellets mixed with liquid molasses just to flush the ewes before and during breeding. I'll discontinue that too once the rams have been out for a month. We're all grassfed here or at least we are when not in D4 drought so our options for supplementation are pretty limited. Thanks for the question.

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@@hudsonmckee5338 my pleasure.

Hereford, Shorthorn, Red Angus, don't have to be 1700 pounds to Marble..... even Professors and County Agents are Biased towards Black Cattle, simply because it makes their Work Day easier.

@@Garybob-e9q we raise cattle to "our" market, which includes the female side of the equation. We recently processed a 950 lb. Live weight steer that by my estimation was "finshed" we've now eaten 4 ribeyes and they are the best I've ever cooked and quite possibly the best I've ever eaten. The market as a whole is in love with fat, bigness, and the big machines it takes to make them that way.

@@savageairsoft9259 eastern Ohio. Almost WV and Pa.

@@anabolicamaranth7140 good t9 hear not everyone is as dry. I was told it was worse south of here but I've driven down there and it's sort of the same.

@@brianjayne1903 I don't have any south polls. I like the breed, we're just a bit to cold for them and they they being a quarter hereford they just don't fit in a crossbreeding program on our hereford cows.

@@Гранит-ь4х here on the US we use British breeds, my preferred our hereford or Murray grey. I'm not sure what cattle breeds you have available but heritage native type cattle should work.

@@noahriding5780 if a ewe is smaller because of age but is the same breed I wouldn't worry but if smaller because it's a very different breed and close to the same age I'd worry. Like I wouldn't breed my kathadins to a textel ram no matter the size but I'd breed the older ones to a Suffolk and not worry, conversely I breed yearlings to an older katahdin ram all the time. I check on mine twice a day when Lambing, more if I'm concerned but I know my sheep and don't need to be concerned much. When not lambing they get moved once a day so they get Checked on then. I simply build a runway out of temporary fence to move them if paddocks are not connected or I simply call them and let them follow me on the atv. Mine get moved every day so they know where I go there is something better to eat so they would follow me anywhere. Guard dogs are only necessary if you have predators about. I do so I wouldn't own sheep without one. Sheep herding dogs are a different story. I don't have one, would love too but I don't have enough work for one, my sheep follow me with the ATV anytime I want to. Hope this helps

@@clintfinneyspringvalleysto8437 Thank you very much! You had good points. I'll check out your other videos too.

Parasites are also a concern. It won't necessarily cause them, they have to already be present, but grazing forages shorter than 4 inches in our typically wet climate significantly increases the risk of the livestock picking up parasite larvae from the grass. This is why we both try not to graze shorter than 4 in. And graze both cattle and sheep together, because both are a dead end host for the others parasites. With this system I rarely have parasite issues.

Yes we tighten them up as we figure out how much they actually need. We've grazed up to 1,000,000 lbs. Per acre at times, but I find that labor wise I'm more than satisfied with the results of much less stock density (around 100k) as long as they are trampling most of the seed head stems. Couple this with the fact that I work away from home for 8 hours a day and higher densities mean less acreage gets used each day while I want to have this tall forage all mashed down at or around the longest day of the year. The longer it stands tall and in seedhead the less the quality and quantity we can grow during our limited number of growing days.

Thanks. Eastern Ohio

Sorry I thought I replied to you earlier. We put them in for may calves and take him out before we'd have December calves. So August to February/March, sometimes they are in with the cows till fresh grass in April. Any Cow that calves more than 90 days outside our window or fails to calve goes to the freezer or sale. The heifers are separated from the bulls from Nov.-August. The ones that breed get to stay as cows the ones that don't go to the freezer.

Doesn't sound like the fence is hot enough. Try steel or high tensile wire , poly doesn’t care enough punch very far. Check you voltage on the fence, I'd like to have at least 5KV to keep them separate. Our weaning paddock is 8 strand HT but typically only the middle strand is hot, sometimes middle and second from the bottom. Keep in mind too that these calves are 9-11 months old. Good luck!

@clintfinneyspringvalleysto8437 thanks, wish that was the problem. Fence is hot enough to make me regret cattle ranching when I touch it lol.

Thanks for commenting, this is why we take the time to do them!

Going back through comments I think I missed answering your question. Here in eastern Ohio we don't really have a rainy season except spring, but March and early April are our rainy/muddy season but all winter here can be that way. So this form of feeding works for the sheep, they sort of build a waste hay pack to stand on. The cattle either are bale grazing or we take them to a concrete pad. During the growing season thoufh they are all out grazing.

In some areas of the country, if its a cold season they have to be careful when putting animals in a shelter or barn that they aren't breathing their own ammonia from their manure. This can cause sheep pneumonia if it can't air properly. This mostly is an issue in winter... For rainy season, you want to let them let their hooves be dry some of the time and not always wet because of hoof rot. Sorry not an expert on that either; but people say it gets in there from wet and cold too much. Its better if you don't have them standing in their mud all the time. In theory you could rig something up with tarps cheap if you want too, but then you'd need T posts also. Cords can be an issue for some animals trying to chew on them. If your pasture isn't swampy and can drain properly you won't have as much to worry about in rainy season (?) But local conditions can vary and have their own necessary practices. Worm and parasite issues, often increase more than normal when exposed to their own manure too much. The solution is to try to move them more.

@@noahriding5780 thank you so much for your explanation.

Not that I'm aware of. We peel the outside layer off of our outside stored bales so they don't have to dig through the layer that might have mold in it. After that Dad bales all my hay and he has a moisture meter on the baler that tells him if it too wet. Also my sheep are so picky they'd starve before they anything that was moldy.

Some animals are VERY sensitive to moldy hay. Like horses especially. You even breathe wrong and you can get a collicky horse. (Sheep I don't know.) But sometimes knowing about how the other animals can react can give you more insight about safe points with other animals. People are doing weird experimentation on pushing the stress points of what's allowed with cattle, not so much with mold but other things... and that's why when the heat index goes up you'll see mass cattle die offs in the midwest in summer... because they were already playing with the allowance points of things... but then bacteria growth goes up faster with the heat.

Eastern Ohio, right across the river from Wheeling, Wv. Or Pittsburgh, Pa. I do a combination of both as well but bale grazing is becoming my favorite by alot!

Same sort of soils here, still Appalachia but a little colder and later season. We spread a shotgun mix of seed including Italian Rye, Red & White clover, birdsfoot trefoil, Orchardgrass, crimson clover, forage chicory, plantain, and turnips just before spring green up. If the bale unrolled field are really torn up and we have to level them up we add Sorghum Sudan. The forage chicory, plantain, and turnips really get the compacted or plugged up areas growing. Around here turnips in the spring, radishes after the longest day of the year. Radishes work better for compaction but if they are planted to early they'll just go to seed. Thanks for the comment!

Exactly!

Thanks!

Thanks for the comment. We do have a bale unrolled that we use for other herds. I actually like this form of feeding better because I don't have to start a tractor all winter to feed this group of calves nor do I have to make mud driving it out to the field everyday. Because the rings are only in place for 5 days max with stockpiled grass under we really don't get pugging and the forage will normally come back stronger and brighter in the spring. Over a ten year period we'll cover the same amount of the pasture with this method as we do unrolling.

It almost sounds like your a sales person for " Greg Judy " ( Mr. Glyphosate ) ????? Never had issues with calves harming themself yet. Bale feeders work great.....been using them for 40 years. Bale smaller bales.....this way.......less time in one area.....move the feeders daily ! A 3x4 bale works great ! (Not the 5x5 bales or larger ! ) They clean it up in short order and move on ! Use light duty chain....form a " Y " inside the bale feeder. Have the chain drop half way down into the feeder. Using the tractor loader / tines to move it daily....or when a bale is gone. However....... Mr. Glyphosate does everything right .......heavenly !!!! Never a problem in the world ! At the same time needs how many so called " streams " of income ??? A very closed minded person and highly critical of his neighbors ! Imagine if your his neighbor....and he broadcasted world wide..... your land/ soil ( as neighbor ) is dead ? I question how his neighbors feel about him ????

They sure were! Cool and they wanted to play.

@@clintfinneyspringvalleysto8437 You have some good videos. Just started binge watching. We have some herefords up in Canada.

@@whiteface5055 Glad you like them.

They might at that although I'm not worried about wasting that amount of hay, it will just help the soil and the subsequent growth so its really not a waste. Thanks for the comment!

Yes we unroll hay for the cow herd, on the next hill over and have been for years. We're giving bale grazing a try this year so we don't make as much mud with the tractor.

@@clintfinneyspringvalleysto8437 it appears that with the hills you are on, you could just unroll them by hand from the top of the hill.

@@georgeheller2281 we have done that. It works but the hills can be a blessing and a curse. With so many convex and concave slopes the bales tend to unroll in the same or close to the same path. We use a bale unroller so we get better coverage of the field and better manure distribution. Bale grazing appears to give us the same manure distribution with no tractor work all winter.

Thanks. We're planning on having a pasture walk this winter sometime with the Eastern Ohio Grazing Council to show it off in person and do a bigger video. I really like unrolling hay as well for the reason you stated but I don't like having to take the tractor out every day and the mud that eventually makes around here.