Andy Knight Guitarist
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The Best Budget Humbuckers? Probuckers vs Toneriders!
Tonerider AC2 Classics vs Epiphone Probuckers - Epiphone Les Paul 50s
I swap out the Probuckers in my Epiphone inspired by Gibson Les Paul 50s Standard for the Tonerider AC2 Classics along with the wiring harness. But was this a waste of time or a worthy upgrade? Can you hear any difference?
Gear used:
Epiphone Les Paul 50s Standard
Cheap Greer Lightspeed clone
Logic Pro X
Strymon Flint V1
Aplitube Bassman plugin
Epiphone Probuckers
Tonerider AC 2 Classics
James' Home of Tone solderless 50s style les paul wiring harness www.homeoftone.co.uk/
TImestamps:
00:00 - Whats it all about
00:30 - Specs
01:02 - Tonerider
01:44 - What if?
02:07 Wiring harness
02:52 - Install attempt
03:15 - I'm a plonker
04:59 - Playing
07:57 - End
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#tonerider #epiphone
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @JAL-b4n
    @JAL-b4n 2 дні тому

    I bought a lot of guitars last year and upgraded pickups in most of them. I used a lot of Seymour Duncans, some Mojotones, and a set of Bare Knuckles, before learning of Tonerider. Once I tried a set of Tonerider Alnico IV Classics, I was sold! Absolutely fantastic and certainly as well made as the aforementioned brands, which are all great, too. I now have guitars with the Alnico II Classics, the Rebel 90's, and Vintage Tele Plus, and they all sound fantastic. I can't recommend them highly enough.

  • @russcottee
    @russcottee 4 дні тому

    Hi Andy - I've seen you play live a few occasions, with Fiona and co. (and maybe others?) but didn't know you have a YT channel! I also have a an Epi Casino ('Worn Denim') - very pleased with it but tend not to gig with it for reasons I don't entirely understand. Best wishes

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 4 дні тому

      Hi Russ! Yep I remember chatting to you a couple of times 👍🏻 hope all is good 👍🏻

  • @tangotango1340
    @tangotango1340 6 днів тому

    Great chops!!

  • @anthonystretch4250
    @anthonystretch4250 8 днів тому

    I've got the Olive Drab, replaced the pick guard with a black one and all knobs to black, it looks beeeeautiful! Just wondering what the capo is you're using is? I saw it sitting above the nut as you were playing and always thought about going for one of those 'yoke' style capos...

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 7 днів тому

      Hey, thanks for watching! The capo is a Paige Capo, I have a few, they are great for storing behind the nut when you aren’t using them 👍🏻

  • @bransemlin56
    @bransemlin56 11 днів тому

    Well Done Andy , I just subscribed !

  • @mifflinfinity
    @mifflinfinity 14 днів тому

    Good playing, ❤

  • @tysonb1057
    @tysonb1057 18 днів тому

    Tone Rider pickups sounds as cheap as they are, purchased them(Alnico 2, single coil and humbuckers), they sound cheap and plastic/harsh(in unpleasant way) compared to Fender single coils, Gibson humbuckers, Seymour Duncan humbuckers.

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 18 днів тому

      Fair enough 😊 thankfully there are plenty of options for every taste and budget, thanks for watching 👍🏻

    • @kevinmackfurniture
      @kevinmackfurniture 16 днів тому

      I got news for ya Mate... The ToneRider factory makes pickups for nearly all the major guitar manufacturers. They are just branded differently. The only difference is in your mind.

  • @Gevin5
    @Gevin5 25 днів тому

    Even when I’ve ordered a guitar it’s been through a shop where I played it first. Both Americans instruments I’ve bought I’ve had for years now. Another reason why I buy from shops is because they are the reason Fender , Gibson and most manufacturers even exist.

  • @promisekeeper501
    @promisekeeper501 28 днів тому

    Hi Andy, Recently I bought the Epiphone Les Paul Standard 50's and rewired the whole thing and put the Tonerider Alnico 2 classics in and they sound great! But then I got to thinking, was it worth the money? I could have just taken all the wiring out and replaced it and been good but I thought surely they (the Toneriders) would be better! Now I'm wondering if I didn't just waste my money but I still have the Probuckers for future endeavors if I decide to I guess. I was wanting to put the Seth Lover pickups in but the Toneriders were cheaper. Yeah, I jumped into all that prematurely! I have 2 Strats that I put the Seth Lover humbuckers in that sound fantastic! I liked your post, you remind me of me !!! lol 🤣

  • @jeramym9506
    @jeramym9506 Місяць тому

    I have this guitar and mine needed a lot of work to be any good. New nut, new bridge, new tuners, sanded the goop off the neck. But now it's my most played guitar. Plugged and unplugged it is a joy.

  • @vmathias2023
    @vmathias2023 Місяць тому

    Demon fx is the best budget pedal brand,period the end. Their tube screamers sound exactly like the originals. They have the clone sequence down pat.

  • @Johnny_Doe
    @Johnny_Doe Місяць тому

    No mistake in buying a Casino. I have 3 a 1994 Peerless, 1965 John Lennon Limited Edition and a Worn Ebony….I need more.

  • @ArtDonna84
    @ArtDonna84 Місяць тому

    What an awesome demo on the Casino. I also thought you guitar work was exceptionally good and definitely help make the band whole and comlete.

  • @superelectic45
    @superelectic45 Місяць тому

    Relax, buying a Casino is never a mistake. But I would never buy a guitar (or car/bike) I hadn't tried first

  • @danieltang1705
    @danieltang1705 Місяць тому

    Does this have an actual spring inside?

  • @eckeb.7722
    @eckeb.7722 Місяць тому

    What a great outro.

  • @oldasrocks9121
    @oldasrocks9121 2 місяці тому

    Take the covers off the Toneriders. Or the Probuckers. Or both! It'll make make both sets sound like they got over a bad cold

    • @SohamBhattacharya3105
      @SohamBhattacharya3105 Місяць тому

      Doubt it. Both pickups have nickel covers, which are non magnetic. So they shouldn't be affecting the tone in any way. Maybe you would get some more highs. But you can achieve the same thing by just turning up the treble on your amp.

    • @oldasrocks9121
      @oldasrocks9121 Місяць тому

      @SohamBhattacharya3105 It's high mids you get. Watch the results thru a spectrum analyser to confirm or deny.

  • @blakefergson6336
    @blakefergson6336 2 місяці тому

    Great playing! The Casino sounds great! I’m considering buying one but I’m concerned with feedback on stage. You don’t seem to have any issues with it playing live.

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 2 місяці тому

      Thanks! Yeah it’s a great guitar, I haven’t had any feedback issues, I don’t use a lot of gain and I’m never super loud though.

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 2 місяці тому

    I don‘t buy anything impulsive, and so with guitars. And that‘s why I don't sell anything either. I like to tinker on guitars, till I like them very much. Then they are forever mine! Only one time I light hearted put my bid on ebay on a lightly used BC Rich koa mockingbird as a „joke“, not hoping that it would sell that low. Won the auction and almost regreted first, but turns out to be one of my best guitars now out of 9. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 2 місяці тому

    In your amp setting, the difference between both pickups is pretty small. The Burstbucker sound dryer, more focus around the fundamntal note, while Toneriders have a little bit wider range and therefore a certain sweetness and airiness. Fine overtones making the notes sound richer. A very subtile addition. I have the Toneriders, and they sound great on my Harley Benton LP knockoff. Edit: Did you thought of adjusting the height of the pole screws? I find the D string notoriously too weak sounding, in this vid it’s hearable too. So I raised the screw 1.2 mm. Accordingly the other screws too, ending up in a double staircase pattern: lowest G and E, then 0.5-0.7 mm raise on A and B, and highest: e- 1mm, D- 1.2mm. Sometimes the whole pickup has to be lowered after that by a tiny bit (about 1mm) Great comparison! Thank you!👍🏼

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching! I think I set the pole pieces to the radius of the fretboard, I’m not sure, but I might try what you mentioned 👍🏻

  • @jayhanson-hs5vg
    @jayhanson-hs5vg 2 місяці тому

    fav tune is roys toy awesome

  • @jaziferret1138
    @jaziferret1138 2 місяці тому

    For me, i wouldnt count thinking of buying one for years, forgetting, then seeing one in a guitar store and jumping on it since it was the last one, then spending upwards of $300 on purely cosmetic modifications as "impulsive"

    • @jaziferret1138
      @jaziferret1138 2 місяці тому

      Purely cosmetic because i think the guitar sounds good on its own.

  • @deadrumdrive
    @deadrumdrive 2 місяці тому

    ah, tonemaster deluxe reverb spotted!

  • @joorock63
    @joorock63 3 місяці тому

    🤘🤘

  • @joorock63
    @joorock63 3 місяці тому

    Peter Greeny🤘🤘

  • @graemerogers3237
    @graemerogers3237 3 місяці тому

    Can't tell the difference but both sound great. I have the ACII's in a LP and think they're fantastic pickups. Great playing too.

  • @alanst.4417
    @alanst.4417 3 місяці тому

    I have the same guitar in sunburst and it's a real pleasure to play, currently my No1. Had the 59 standard as well, but had to return it due to a chipped neck and it wasn't even nearly as good quality wise. My luthier wasn't happy about it at all - lesser quality wood he said. I quite like the Probuckers, but after your comparison, I might swap them for the Toneriders... or Mojotone. Cheers!

  • @alanst.4417
    @alanst.4417 3 місяці тому

    Hey, great video! I was thinking about this swap on my 50s Epi LP, but haven't made the decision yet. After your comparison, I can clearly hear some more harmonic richness and sweetness of the AC2 pups (that's how I imagine the old PAFs sounded), quite surprised about that.

  • @DaleSimko
    @DaleSimko 3 місяці тому

    Nice playing! It’s nice to see something other than metal shredding!

  • @jamieharper2554
    @jamieharper2554 3 місяці тому

    No offence intended but when I was watching the first part of the video before any playing, I started to have a little think about how you would play. I watch so many videos and some people talk it up with all the knowledge and then they play and you think, mate you need to stop giving advice 😂. As we all do I was playing the guessing game on how you would play and i thought to myself ahhh this guy will be one of those who is so so but won't be much good really. My god was I wrong 😂. It was one of those great youtube moments where you literally get humbled and surprised. Beautiful playing, delicious decision making, great phrasing and all round wow. I've been playing for 2 years now but you just get used to people giving lessons and advice and then it turns out they can hardly play...but I was made up when you played, made up that it wasn't another one of those immediately end video moments 😂. Fantastic!

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 3 місяці тому

      Oh wow! Thank you very much! I’m made up now 😊👍🏻

  • @oskarvalcarcelgarcia6884
    @oskarvalcarcelgarcia6884 3 місяці тому

    Imitador de artista

  • @marcvanheugten9472
    @marcvanheugten9472 3 місяці тому

    Impulsive indeed, but usually i find stuff that needs to be tinkered with, currently eyeballing a Cort Sourse with sketchy wiring. Thinking of rebel90 p90ies I found your vid of the casino to see what p90ies sound like in a hollowbody. Nice gitaar & playing. Should I.....

  • @SamJ_M
    @SamJ_M 3 місяці тому

    Can someone who's bought this tell me what its like with an overdriven tone? I read one review that said it clips if you have it in the fx loop, if you have it pushed a bit too far.

  • @jjallen2711
    @jjallen2711 3 місяці тому

    There’s a Joey Landreth pedal? So that’s why he reminds me of Gary Clark sometimes. Does Gary uses that pedal?

    • @andyknightguitarist
      @andyknightguitarist 3 місяці тому

      I doubt very much he does but it’s the only fuzz I had at the time, it’s pretty versatile. 😊

  • @gramcameron4469
    @gramcameron4469 3 місяці тому

    Those T.R ac2's brought a beautiful coloured sweetness & quality tone w/ smooth tops.. geez , i can hear the difference ...

  • @armenflintstone
    @armenflintstone 4 місяці тому

    Just discovered this poking around on YT. Great video and explanation. I went through most of what you went through on my way to buying a worn olive drab. I love the guitar. I will not touch the stock electronics as I’ve fallen in love with how it sounds against my other guitars…unique. It’s is quite an easy guitar to play also (the thin neck). In the end it’s an option for me.

  • @Guitar_Fella
    @Guitar_Fella 4 місяці тому

    Can I tell any difference...frankly no. It seems to me that the Probuckers and the Tonerider AC2's must be voiced very similarly, they also have a similar impedance, and well, to me sound identical. I actually have a guitar with a Tonerider AC2 installed (Yamaha Pacifica 212VQM) but I bought it second hand, and therefore I don't know how the original (Alnico 5) humbucker sounded.

  • @Mourninghorse
    @Mourninghorse 4 місяці тому

    I love my Casino .......

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 4 місяці тому

    Guitars are 100% impulsive…..I also bought this guitar…

  • @JDStone20
    @JDStone20 4 місяці тому

    Man you can play! And great choice of music! Tell you the truth, they both sound awesome to me.

  • @JDStone20
    @JDStone20 4 місяці тому

    hahahaha, I have ADHD as an adult, both the hyperactive type and the inattentive type, I understand what you mean!

  • @SohamBhattacharya3105
    @SohamBhattacharya3105 4 місяці тому

    I was thinking about replacing the Probuckers in the Epi 50s Les Paul but honestly (at least through UA-cam) the Tonerider AC2s more or less the same. They do seem to have a new Alnico 5 set called the Birmingham. Maybe that will sound different enough to warrant swapping the pickups. Either way, I will certainly be holding on to the Probuckers. They are excellent A2 PAF style pickups.

  • @zachcregle2931
    @zachcregle2931 5 місяців тому

    I’m having a total brain fart, what song is the first riff?

  • @shanerose5348
    @shanerose5348 5 місяців тому

    Super tasty playing, i am 100% with you re: gear. Worship player in the states, loadout ease definitely matters!! Great presentation , i hope your channel just explodes. Subbed.

  • @remoteuser65
    @remoteuser65 5 місяців тому

    I'd put DemonFX pedals against anything on the market. Realistic pricing is the key.

  • @37BopCity
    @37BopCity 5 місяців тому

    Great intro! You really hit the notes that are unique to Muddy for sure. I saw Muddy in a small club back in the 70s with his band including the young Hollywood Fats. I sat about six feet from the stage, right in line with Muddy. He was absolutely fantastic, not just his guitar playing and vocals, but his powerful charismatic personality. I have never experienced that with anyone else since.

  • @37BopCity
    @37BopCity 5 місяців тому

    Real nice video. Great intro and opens the door for a lot more. I like your sound and groove. I saw Hollywood Fats when he was 18 years old, playing with Muddy Waters. He was an extremely talented guitar player who later made some great records, and who died way too young

  • @MARS-GREENH0USE
    @MARS-GREENH0USE 5 місяців тому

    Seems like i need it

  • @mikepanethere7167
    @mikepanethere7167 5 місяців тому

    Hey Andy....great video and examples of how versatile the casino is. BTW, couldn't agree more about obsessing then buying your next great guitar then selling it on Reverb 🤣. Guilty as charged!!!!

  • @SearchingForTone
    @SearchingForTone 5 місяців тому

    I heard someone even say why wait for a king of tone, just get 2 princes