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I just recently started playing Pathfinder 2e with the new revised rules! I totally get it, we had a boss once who had us put all our hands in and say "1, 2, 3, Jesus!" before church every Sunday. It felt... strange lol So glad you liked the episode!

He kicked adam and eve out of the garden for fear that they would also eat of the tree of life, and with both divine knowledge of good and evil and eternal life they would become like the elohim.

@@mfsebcw nope. He kicked them out because he didn’t want them living forever spreading sin through their lack of understanding of how to use the knowledge they were just learning. If they did live no one would ever be able to be saved, because sin would have been eternal. This IS the spiritual battle. To end sin and it’s effects, most crippling one that of death. Without sin there is no death. The new heaven and new earth will not have sin, therefore no death.

@@mfsebcw you proved my point as well. They had to eat the fruit, given by God, to obtain any knowledge. He has all knowledge. We do not.

@@OrangeMonkey2112 Then the Lord God said, “Now these human beings have become like one of us and have knowledge of what is good and what is bad.[a] They must not be allowed to take fruit from the tree that gives life, eat it, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God sent them out of the Garden of Eden and made them cultivate the soil from which they had been formed. 24 Then at the east side of the garden he put living creatures[b] and a flaming sword which turned in all directions. This was to keep anyone from coming near the tree that gives life. where in any of that does it say that his reason is because he didn't want them spreading sin forever? i'd also like to draw your attention to the "us" why is it bad for them to know what is good and what is bad? why is knowledge bad? and why was it ok for god to lie to them and say they would die in the very day that they ate it? they lived for hundreds of years after according to the bible. and don't make me pull another quote by claiming "spiritual death". a plain reading does not give that, you have to add to the bible to get there.

@@mfsebcw crazy lol

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The living God didn't create this realm. What was Created was given power to make this materialized realm, (ELOHIM)this is why the Supreme Creator says you are not to worship any graven images. Because the flesh is the graven image. The flesh is dead! Respectfully we will all be judged for what we say and do. Those that speak out against the son of man (Jesus Christ) will be forgiven, but those that speak out against the wholly Spirit will not be forgiven in this age or the one to come. Just saying, be careful. The Creator that Created evil will not be mocked.

Truth may offend them.

I don't remember seeing anything 🤔

The trinity was not a doctrine at the time so it is not talking about the trinity. Not to mention the Jews that wrote the book did not believe in a trinity so you are wrong factually on two ends. But also the Trinity makes zero sense and is unsound/illogical.

​@@Raiden-the-Goat32I don't know if you know but there are multiple instances of the Trinity in the old testament, and the last thing you mentioned is an personal incondulity fallacy.

@@Raiden-the-Goat32 one God expressed as three person is documented throughout the Old and New Testaments

Hi Noah, glad to be here! I tried to make it a point to mention that this is how the authors of this text would have made sense of the world around them. Today, I'd say we have a better understanding of what a triune God is, and thus can make better sense of the creation narrative in light of the New Testament

"assimilated". Not true, they did what was evil in the eyes of God: literally burning babies alive as sacrifices to demons, talking to the dead, false divination, cutting themselves for false idols, etc. Because of this, God told the Israelites to destroy these nations, as in, completely. No one was assimilated. The only nations that survived was the ones they made a peace treaty with (that God did NOT condone).

If you think this was unfair, you shouldn't. God did the same thing to the Israelites when they gave him the middle finger and forgot about him when they set up kingdoms and stuff. The Israelites were turning to the demons and false gods and doing the exact same thing the other nations did.

You don't have to take Genesis as literal, but at LEAST don't try to put your own understanding on scripture like you did here.

@@ryunosuke8966 Thanks for the comment! Your hesitancy is totally fair. The term "Elohim" can refer to god or gods, but when modified by the word "Jehovah" it becomes the idea of a most high God (noting the capitalization). The term "Elohim" is likely translated as God (uppercase) in Genesis one to avoid the lengthiest footnote in the history of footnotes 😂 When I say I'm not too knowledgeable, I mean I'm not a Bible translator. There are people much smarter than me for that! And when I say I took courses, I'm just being honest about my level of knowledge. I'd much rather folks fact check me and engage in the text than claim authority via the Dunning-Kruger effect. If you'd like to look at the source that helped me navigate this, you can find it here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bibleproject/id1050832450?i=1000415907224

The sources that say that are not well researched nor are they taken seriously by historians.

@@Spugizakom well at least its writen 2500 years before and 95% is the same as genesis, enoch book from babylonian making the rest. Just read it and make your own opinion. I feel it only makes bible better to be older

@@nab-v1w I dont think this “Babylonian book” is at all as well preserved as the Bible. Could you please link your sources?

@@Spugizakom i prefer not as i can only send youtube links on youtube and youtube's video are generally sensionalist. Its just that in biblic times, people were more cultivated that we think due to greec influence, so they cited part of famous other books that preech to do good things and not harm people. If you go on youtube they say stupid things as alien write the bible xD so try to find original texts for yourself.

@@nab-v1w I will see what I can find. I would just like to say thank you for keeping this respectful and calm and apologies if I came off a bit strong at first.

Thanks for the tips! I'm very up front about the fact that I'm not an expert in Hebrew. In the video you can see I also have my NASB tab open and I reference Strongs frequently. As for the NIV, i also explained that it's the most commonly used translation, so I want to meet people where they're at at what they might be reading at home. There wasn't a notable difference between the NIV and NASB for this video. I'm also curious, where does the Bible say "the father cannot enter this realm"?

Actually you are wrong because in 1st temple Jewdaism Jews was split between two sects one that believed in multiple God's and the other Yahweh only. The part at the beginning of the book of Genesis is 1st temple Jewdaism and as such reflects that era.

Point is in one of the stories in Genesis with Adam and Eve being created it uses word's in the Hebrew that show multiple God's not one. For example Elohim mean's God's as in plural and the singular form of Elohim is El. Also Yahweh was only one of the Elohim not the only one.

​@@Raiden-the-Goat32 No dude, Elohim is almost always used plural intensively. It means "God" or "the True God". This is due to God or Elohim being triune and it's shown in Genesis. The Holy Spirit is seen in verse 2: Genesis 1:1-2 - 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. ' Then, when God creates man the Word of the Lord (son) and the Father converse and make man in their image: Genesis 1:26-27 - 'Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. ' You see how is switches from "our image" to "God created man in his own image" this is due to YHWH (the name for Elohim "the True God") being triune.

@@Raiden-the-Goat32 Also, just because the trinity sounds illogical to *you* doesn't mean it's false. God's ways are not our ways, they are above our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). God is all-powerful and above logic (because he created it) and limiting an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God is also limiting your understanding of him.

How would you address this passage, then? or Genesis 6, Exodus 18, Exodus 20, Deuteronomy 6, Deuteronomy 12, Judges 2, Judges 10, 1 Kings 11, 2 Kings 22, Jeremiah 50, Acts 14, and 1 Corinthians 8? Just to name a few after some quick searches

Yes it is. Your comment is dumb.

Sure, maybe it's not. I'm more than willing to be wrong. For me, it's exciting to think there's more to the Bible than what we read at face value, so the context of the authors is something I enjoy exploring

I try not to draw lines whenever possible. There’s a lot of wiggle room on something like this, but there’s definitely a lot more going on here than just two people eating fruit. It’s kind of like our modern day fables. Could it have happened? Totally. Does it NEED to have happened to be important? I’d say no

What the hell. This is so funny xd, does their religion really forbid them from playing videogames or watching movies?

@@alexloponte7056 it's like their god takes notes, ah yes he played quidditch world cup.... Hell, farming sim, hell....

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Changed my life 😆

@@punpastoryour pfp is obi wan kenobi

@@Reign-o2b that’s the joke lol

@@punpastor how many people you get with that?

Thanks for the comments! So glad I could shout you out 😁

Thanks! Having fun and engaging in pop culture in a healthy way is important in showing those outside the church that Christians are more than rule-following squares

There's definitely a benefit to having open, honest discussion about difficult topics. I know I've found airing out what's causing me stress actually makes me less stressed! Even though it doesn't solve my problem, I'm no longer holding in that stress

Thanks! I figured I'd keep it simple, I didn't want to camp on it for too long

Haha I had already recorded the video, I'll definitely revisit this!

Lol dang I gotta rerecord that video now

Great points! I might circle back to this concept in another video. Moses does so many cool things in Exodus that I'm not sure I could fit it all in one character. The plagues would be an interesting variation that I'd like to explore; I'll be sure to give you a shoutout when it comes out!

I totally agree; when I was building these characters, the aim was more thematic than lore accurate 😂 just about every character could end up being a warlock, cleric, or paladin otherwise