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Hi, Mana Kai
Canada
Приєднався 12 лип 2024
Mana Kai is a 1986 Ericson 38-200. Follow along as I make upgrades and turn her into a dream sailing machine.
Update + Kiteboard Session
The Sonoran summer heat became too much for me to handle in August. After an absence of almost 2 months, I'm back on the boat and getting her ready for the water.
Today: No boat projects. Come kiteboard with me in one of the best spots I've ever been to.
Music: Bongo Bong - Manu Chao
Today: No boat projects. Come kiteboard with me in one of the best spots I've ever been to.
Music: Bongo Bong - Manu Chao
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Mast upgrades on my Ericson 38-200
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With my mast off the boat, I had a lot of space and time to do some upgrades before re-stepping the mast. In this video: - Replacing the standing rigging - Disassembling and modifying my really old Harken furling unit - Adding running running backstays and a removable inner forestay - Changing the VHF cable and adding a wind meter - Grounding the mast for lightning protection Music: Sinnerman -...
How to re-bed your keel: what NOT to do
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Over the past couple of weeks I have managed to get my keel resurfaced and firmly re-attached to the hull. I made so many easily-avoidable mistakes, in this video, watch how I get the keel back on, and let me tell you about everything you should NOT do when you put your keel back on. - Make sure you have enough epoxy/sealant on hand! - Make sure you use the correct epoxy hardener! - Don't let t...
How to remove your keel on a budget
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I drop the keel on my Ericson 38-200. Issues with stuck keel bolts, difficult access, and a keel that refuses to separate from the hull. I nearly gave up on this project, persistence is key. Music: You Wish - Nightmares on Wax
Tax Avoidance and Keel Bolts
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I've been stuck in San Carlos, Mexico, without my tools, and a non-functioning credit card. Last week the replacement card arrived and I could rent a car to get to Tucson, and recover my tools. Now, back at the boat with all my tools, I can continue to work at stepping the keel. Music: I Wonder - Protassov
Pulling the Mast
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Today I got the marina to help me get the mast down. I'm glad I had help! Mast removal is one job the marina won't let you attempt alone (for good reason). They bill $130/hour, which means unexpected complications along the way can start to get pretty expensive. Music: The Fade Out Line - Phoebe Killdeer and The Short Straws
First Look at Mana Kai
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I bought Mana Kai in February 2024, sight unseen. She's a 1986 Ericson 38-200, sitting on the hard in San Carlos, Mexico. I had sent a surveyor to inspect the boat, and closed the deal without ever having seen her myself. This week, I finally managed to get off my prior boat, and make the drive down to Mexico. Join me as we check out the hull, interior, and get familiar with the basic systems. ...
I was all set for a similar job on my 88 Hunter 355. The man I bought it from said water was coming from the keel bolts . I was exposed the joint and found it was tight all the way around In talks with a buddy we thinks it’s likely something mundane like a leaky hose ! My plan is to get the bilge bone dry then splash her and keep her in the sling run the engine work everything that uses a through hull and see what’s what. Fingers crossed
@@109jeanmarc I hope it's a simple fix. Keel bolts were not fun!
Are your new keel bolt nuts longer than the originals? If not, there are several threads which are not engaged now that you have added the backing plates and the tension is acting on less thread area than originally designed. This could lead to the engaged threads stripping or bolt stretch under cyclic load while sailing. 18:24
@@mikecurrie1795 the plate you can see at 18:24 is not the keel bolt backing plate. Below that aluminum plate are the keel bolt backing plates, and the nuts (torqued down to spec). The purpose of the aluminum plate you can see was just to have something to connect a battery lug to. Fully agree though, if those nuts you see at 18:24 were there ones holding my keel on... I'd be pretty nervous!
@@himanakai Sorry to doubt your installation. Thanks for the explanation.👍
I'd be interested in finding out how the backing plates you made work out for you. It's always better to spread the load as best you can and your idea is a good one I would think. When there's keel bolts close together I wonder if making large backing plates to cover the bottom of the hull around those bolts would add even more strength? Thanks for sharing your experience and I also couldn't agree more even as expensive as it can be always be sure to have extra supplies on hand before going into final assembly. I'm not sure what yard work you have left to do before splash day. Is there a plan to glass the keel to the hull, to spread the load out even further? Now that I think about that, aren't keels designed to flex a little and my idea might end up making it to rigid? I don't really know if that would work, just thinking out loud really. Fair winds, following seas, safe travels and God Bless...
@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit I'll post an update after a few months of sailing. I expect the plates will work well, the only things I'm worried about are rust (made of 304 instead of 316 SS), and potentially they are too thin to adequately spread the load. Both options should be pretty easy to detect. I considered joining adjacent plates to have a single plate with two holes, but I didn't trust my design chops enough for that one. I don't think the difference will be significant. And for glassing the keel in - that's how it was before. The sides were intact and in good shape. The front and back had delaminated. My guess is due to the fore and backstay tension the boat gets pulled into a bit more of a banana shape - so the fore and aft sections of the keel stub are most likely to separate.
@@himanakai Thanks for the reply and info. If I'm ever in your situation I'll remember it. Fair winds, following seas, safe travels and God Bless...
Looks like the nuts came off fairly easily, I had to use 5 foot of scaffolding pole as an extension to the torque wrench handle, amd then lean on it, before mine shifted.
Very useful lesson, thank you - I would not have thought to check the hull was completely horizontal..one thing i was wondering was whether it is strictly necessary to smooth the surfaces with epoxy, do you have any thoughts on that?
During the keel removal I ended up pulling chunks of fiberglass off the bottom of my keel stub, so the surface was VERY uneven. What I didn't want to have was areas where the sealant gets pressed completely out, and other areas that have half an inch or more of sealant between the keel and stub. I think some variance is normal and expected, but to a limit. If I had managed to preserve the bottom of my keel stub during the removal step, I would have left it as-is.
As you pointed out, the current may follow the outside of the mast for the lightning path to ground, despite an alternative straightforward path to ground. This is somewhat a misconception in the term itself. Even for DC, its path takes multiple paths, similar to the root system of a tree-never a single path if a continuous metal surface is available. I'm a welder, so don't ask me how I know. Lol.
This filming makes me seesick....
@@GibsonFreak1966 😂
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Electronics usually act up a bit when they haven't run for years. Usually it all smooths out.
@@stanleybest8833 the radar might be older than the boat. I don't think I'll be able to coax it back to life 😬
As a guy who actually does keels, I am impressed. This is NOT an easy job! As I was watching, I was reliving my learning curve, and all the pain that I had experienced. lol! If you need a little tech support, let me know. I’ll be glad to help save you time/money. (Mike)
Mike, thank you. I wish I'd met you sooner. The keel is back on, but I made a critical error and did not ensure that the keel stub mating surface was perfectly level to the hull. My keel is now ~1.5 degrees off of perfect vertical.
@@himanakai oh, shit! What did you use to bond it?
@@mikestone234 Sika 291. I did try to part the keel from the stub after noticing the misalignment, no luck!
@@himanakai bummer. 1.5 degrees isn’t too bad. How does the boat handle? I usually bed keels with thickened epoxy, after I level the boat. Makes the keel, one with the hull.
@@himanakai when I use the thickened epoxy, I make sure that I have about 3/16” thick between the keel, keelstub,( keelson). Helps make up angular differences.
Awesome tenacity and the eye for detail!! Not seen all videos so was not sure why work was needed in the first place but think you mention it. You noticed a 'smile' in the front between keel and hull due to flexed washers giving away. I guess the water entering had messed up the surface so bad it could simply not just be sealed and tightened? You will have some great peace of mind once done knowing you did not take any shortcuts:)
Exactly, there was a smile at the front and rear that seemed to imply some keel movement. Furthermore, this model/year of boat was known for not having removed the mold release wax from the bottom of the keel stub, leading to poor adhesion of the sealant. I wanted the peace of mind. I'm paranoid about crevice corrosion after finding some hidden about on my last boat. In hindsight, the adhesion between the keel and stub was just fine, and I would have been 100% OK to just dig out and replace the weathered sealant at the front and rear, make the backing plates, and re-torque. There was no sign of the keel bolts corroding (no weeping rust stains or anything like that). So while this was a good "preventative maintenance" project, it was unnecessary.
@himanakai you only knew the condition of bolts after stripping them of old Sikaflex so it all had to happen for peace of mind:)
How the h-ll did you get that nut off from under there without taking the engine out
Get rid of all the extensions much better.
You can definitely get it done cheaper in Mexico than you can California.. or order everything you need from a trusted source and then either find a local rigger or fly in a friend who knows what they're doing
@@bendaves77 100% getting anything done is cheaper here, but sourcing parts is a problem. I ended up getting all my rigging cut long and shipped over with sta-lok fittings for the bottoms. I'm just finishing up my keel and rigging will be next. Update coming soon.
Why buy anything sight unseen when a airplane ticket to Mexico is relatively cheap when talking about 40k
@@bendaves77 I was on my prior boat, sailing through the Caribbean with my cat when I found this one. The logistics to get out here were difficult and expensive, so I opted to trust the surveyor. But definitely that was NOT the right idea. I likely still would have bought this boat, but I think I'd have negotiated the price lower (that would have easily paid for the flight!) I'm very happy with the boat so far, but I will probably never buy another one without visiting it first.
Really cool!!! Keep sharing your journey... you did a great first video, showed the boat, talked about the past and what's planned for the future.. Mexico is definitely 🔥 this time of year.. in a few months it will be nicer but still pretty warm, but it's better than being cold
@@bendaves77 I appreciate the kind words Ben, and definitely looking forward to cooler weather.
It's good to see people learn how to service their own keels. Hopefully it will improve content in the already super expensive yard fees. Practically its a very simple design and a very heavy job. Well done.
I am about to do the same on my Sabre 38 MK II - this is an intimidating job. :-)
One of my favourite boats! In retrospect I did not need to fully drop my keel, the bolts were in perfect shape with no signs of water intrusion. It's just hard to know for sure until you do pry the keel off. Good luck and let us know how it goes!
As you say, persistence in key:) Interesting work, my first thought when watching was 'hope he has steel cap boots' if keel comes of completely and goes rogue:) - Building a 36' foot sailboat from scratch so will need some of your patience. Currently posting some videos around the electric motor housing build that will drive it all when eventually done (Link in case interested: ua-cam.com/video/wHFoyxXglfY/v-deo.htmlsi=99Uuh_tC35Ffx_LO ) - Looking forward to follow your continuation:) Keep the good videos coming!
Thanks for the encouragement! If for any reason that keel slipped off the boat, or the jackstands start to fail, the plan is RUN. I've been pretty light on the protective equipment due to the desert heat, but still making sure to protect my eyes and lungs at all times. I'm going to check out your boat build, that sounds awesome.
@@himanakai - Ha Ha, RUN sounds like a plan in that scenario:) - I am the worst at protective equipment myself, not long ago since I had to visit the hospital remove a metal splinter from my eye retina from sanding without googles. Luckily no long-term damage done:)
Looks lik an absolute money pit. please , what are you thinking ????
Why be a dick! The guy is having fun with a boat rebuild!
@@vanwest4198 My comments stand Mr sanctamonious
He had another boat so maybe he got a deal and is looking for the journey?? Unless it's your money he's spent why care what he does with his???
To set the record straight - the boat is in good shape and well equipped. I have intentions of sailing across the Pacific next spring, and that's no place to be wondering if your keel bolts are rusty or if the rigging will continue to hold. So I'm getting the big jobs done now - amortized over the next 10 years, it's not that expensive.
Cool stuff bud
Thanks! It's been a lot of fun so far.
How many money it costs plz
too much 🤕
You can easily look up other boats of the same year and manufacturer to find out how many money aka how much it cost or the market value