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Unfortunately no. The expedition lite is made out of polyamide material, you would use a fcf free dwr spray to re waterproof that. I might have to make a video showing that process soon! The wax only works for g1000 base materials.

It’s decent, it’ll wet out in enough rain, like anything. The snow sheds off nicely, I wear the g1000 and gloft in colder snowier conditions and wear a dwr 3l rain jacket from Patagonia for really wet stuff.

@@Paddleandbeans Thanks! I've been trying to avoid membranes but that doesn't work very well at times.

Different tools for different environments. My shell has “h2no” membrane from Patagonia, perfect for lightweight backcountry/cycling adventures. The keb ecoshell membrane is a champ for keeping you dry too. G1000 is awesome for durability and adaptability. Fjallravens GLoft insulation will keep you warm even if it wets out.

Yes, sure. I assume you are using the 3-layer Torrentshell jacket. Good stuff and supposedly eco-friendly, but a bit too expensive for me so far. My 2-layer membranes were deteriorating fast and my 3-layer from Decathlon became unusable after I gained weight. Overall I've grown uncomfortable with membranes being fragile and with all the PFC stuff. Waxed/DWR-treated polycotton works but can be cumbersome and gets wetted through. Very durable though, quick to dry and seems to be long-lasting. There are ponchos but they are no good in the wind. There's also Paramo but I'm not sure about their performance in heavy rain. I think I'll experiment more and maybe find my solution out there. Thanks for using synth insulation! And overall glad I've found your channel.

@@lighteningbug7 try warming it up more with a hairdryer so it melts in a bit more, I had to do that in some spots when it did the same as you described. Did you do thin layers of wax? fjallravens site has instructions on how to warm wash out and air dry if you need to…

@@PaddleandbeansI will try to warm it up more with the hair dryer, thank you for the suggestion. Yes, I followed the instructions, but maybe the wax didn’t spread too evenly. I tried my best.

@@lighteningbug7 hopefully that works, slow movements with the heat helps, takes patience for it to fully melt in. Thanks for watching

@@Paddleandbeans❤

@@bysonrock2984 good question. I’ve never had it run out. I’ve used these all day in construction, and taken them out for a few hours at a time in the back country and never had to worry about it. I always top my battery off if I know il be using it too. Run time on the packaging would seem accurate.

Depends on temperature. Running a light high at -15°C for hours is going to require extra battery packs. LiMnO2 or Li-ion primary are best, then rechargeable Li-ion, then alkaline disposables, but just assume 60% capacity at full charge below 0°C. Carry extra battery packs in an inside pocket to keep them less frozen in cold conditions.

@@blond-in-blue thanks! Appreciate hearing that!

@@liberty_skipper Nitecore looks nice, which do you have? Next time I might try something from fenix.

@ nu35 and nu25 ul

but I like the design of black diamond and patzl better :)

You can, but typically not as durable. This jacket will take much more of a beating than most others in the price range.

@ OK I got it now

Yup and slice it to small cubes so it’s easy to use

Thanks! It didn’t work super well for super long, but it did help a bit. It was nice until I washed it. A wash in or a spray may last longer. Have fun trying it!

If there’s a stripe there’s too much wax, or it went on unevenly because of a button or something under it. Try a metal canteen water bottle with warm water, and a napkin. Place the napkin on the jacket and the warm bottle on the napkin, it will lift any excess wax out with a blotting motion. Lighter colour g1000 shows these the most. We did one in buckwheat brown, it shows a lot, but, in time it does even out I found. Hope that helps…

@rashard_d I spot wash to reduce the need to wash it. Zippers are mint. On my 3rd season of using the jacket for most winter outings. Just tumbled it with tennis balls to re-fluff the insulation a bit… I would have no issue with abrasions on this for normal use, if your in rain a lot consider something like an shell layer instead, wax will only keep you dry for so long. I switch out to my 3L rain shell (Patagonia granite crest) with an insulating layer (fjallraven pack down hoodie) for big rain falls or really wet days. Regular snow and light rain, no problem with this Skogso tho! Looks smart too.

I think the stretch made it not work so well. Was good for a while, fun project to try.

Hey thanks! This is the “dark navy” colour.

The spray is usually a DWR (durable water repellent) coating, more for a nylon or polyester based shell material. Wax is more so impregnable type of water resistance, bonds onto the material, especially fjallravens G1000 poly cotton blend, and can be adjusted to suit your environment. It’s also just a classic, timeless method. Thanks for watching

Just use a liquid water repellent like Nikwax instead if you really need it. I feel like the heated wax will penetrate too much into the fabric and ruin the breathability. If I plan out to be out in the pouring rain, I'd just use a poncho or rain jacket instead, don't feel like altering my everyday $350+ jacket for occasional rain drops.

Hey Michael, didn't see your comment til today, feel free to email me from your business email. Contact info on channel page. We have a bunch of stuff filmed in northern BC, scheduled for release in the next few months. Mostly paddle boarding and fat biking, thanks for reaching out.

Goretex fails in about 5-7 years. For the cost of a Goretex jacket, it’s hard to justify purchasing one for me, knowing how fragile it is as a material. I’d rather have something more rugged, even if it requires a couple hours of care every few years to keep it working well.

@@fraserlaidlaw7358 horses for courses pal…I have used milsurp goretex jackets for years…cheap as chips, tough, lasts for years and easy to replace

@@Tommy-Atkins Buy a Fjallraven and it won't need replacing.

Get outta here

Is not eco friendly

@@dannyjones9580 okay

Teflon and DWR are PFAS so good luck with that.

Until you have a waxed jacket you will never understand how amazing they are. You can wear your dumb rain slicker and be a dork

I’ve never used otter wax before, it might be a different ingredient base than Greenland wax. Otter wax looks like they use some oils in their mix, perhaps let it cure in a warm room so it has time to sink in to the canvas? Or maybe it needs re heating with for deeper application? I’m only guessing though. Thanks for watching. I might have to try otter wax on some other jackets I have… let me know how it is?

Waxed G1000 will "wet out" quicker than a 3 layer membrane like goretex, but all jackets will eventually wet out.

@@ronrubble Yes but it wets out quiet fast actualy. When i was out in the rain my friend had a Codura style jacket that is also not water proof. And he stayed drie just because of the much thicker material.

@@Zydia That sounds reasonable. Which fjallraven jacket are you using? Some of them make a lot of use of "G1000 lite" for example, which is thinner than the "Classic" and "Heavy Duty" variants. I have the sten which I think is one of the least waterproof versions because of lots of G1000 lite. I use it as an urban jacket, fine for short showers. If I need better waterproofing I have a proper mountain shell jacket that I used (Montane Atomic), but even it can wet out after hours of rain and hiking.

@@ronrubble In that case i used the Smok no 1. It is made out of G1000 Eco and G1000 heavy duty. Both materials weted out

Thanks for the comment @zydia How many layers of wax did you apply? G1000 is a cotton polyester blend, in time water will penetrate the fibre, but the wax gives it more resistance, more wax, more water resistance but less breathability. I waxed the Skogso for snow repellency and extra warmth this year. I just jumped into some a snow pile and none stuck to the jacket, snow fall sheds off too while I hike. Agreed, probably wouldn’t hold up to hours in the rain. For a dedicated rain jacket we’ve tried the Keb eco shell and that beads the water off instantly. Will need to reapply the waterproofing on that in time too.

I feel like I’ve heard that somewhere too 🤔. Not sure if I’d want try it. Could get wax on the inside of the dryer. Fjallraven recommends ironing or hair dryer. Hair dryer won’t compress the insulation on a padded jacket too. Thanks for watching

The wax melts around 60 degrees so you need to get it up to that temp. Same to get the wax out - needs a high temp wash.

Like painting it on? I have not tried that, would be interesting to see, but I think it would go on too thick and potentially waste a lot of wax. Pre warming the jacket material with the hair dryer helps it go on easier. Thanks for watching.

Similar technique as in the video, gently soap and rinse the liner. Hanging it inside out on a breezy day can help freshen it up too. You can also contact your local Fjallraven customer help line, they are very helpful to ask how a garment should be washed. Thanks for watching.

Excellent question, I wondered the same thing as I applied the wax. The wax impregnates into, and becomes part of the fabric, and doesn’t leave a coating on the outside. I have not seen any stains or wax come off onto other surfaces. Just did a 4 hour road trip and wore this in my car the whole time. No transfer. Heated seats might be another thing though? 🤔 however you probably wouldn’t be wearing a jacket with heated seats on for that long… Thanks for watching, we have a “how to hand wash g1000” video coming out soon too.

@@Paddleandbeans thank you for the reply! Im going to test this wax at some point, cheers!

I would avoid heated seats with any waxed textile. I have some Barbour and Filson clothes and while they’re more oily wax they will come off with heated seats.

Hi, thanks for watching. We are just starting to edit the next one, a “how to” for hand washing G-1000, and G-Loft, when you need to wash without compromising the insulation loft. We didn’t wash the Skogso as it didn’t really need it, I just wanted more water proofing for wet snow in BC so I can use it snowboarding. Slow and steady is the key with a hairdryer, with even wax application. Wax keeps more heat in it seems, at the cost of some breathability.

Thanks, we have more coming soon. Check out the 24 minute version, it’s quite peaceful and relaxing. Was just watching your video exploring those caves at Brixham, that was awesome. Sorry to hear about your son mate.

Tried to get there again yesterday but the sea got messy and choppy.