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It's also wider on the front than on the back if I remember correctly.

At least the “leader” is not the most ugliest thing about this “kitchen” (just can’t bring myself around to calling this thing a car)

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Very impressive! Was only aware of locking columb.

The jews are at it again (still).

Great video! Would like to see your thoughts on the '60s SAAB 96 (& 93 & 95). Also the rare 1966/7/8 Jaguar 420/S compact & its Daimler Sovereign equivalent.

"The DS is not the car of the future, nor the car of the past. It is the car of today!"

You can´t alter the design in any way on the DS. It´s a masterpiece!

You are completely wrong! The DS was/is very reliable and of very good quality. It is not "complicated", if you only know how it is designed and constructed. I speak from my own experience having owned DSs since 1972, and I now drive a 1974 DS 23 IE Pallas, without any problems! Not many other cars can match that!

The DS never had "sealed beams" headlights in europe! It was classical Marchal or Cibie!

The most important feature with the hydropneumatic suspension was its constant ride height, irrespective of the load! But that did they not mention at all!

The DS also looks very elegant when standing still! It´s a piece of art, for goodness sake!

No problems at all with the DS!

Never call a Citroen "wierd"! They are just superior to all others!

Another option is to give Stellantis USA its own CEO. The Ram CEO is the best candidate. Give him unlimited authority to run US operations.

Jagwas, honestly get a grip, it’s pronounced phonetically exactly as it is spelled Jag U ar.

Too bad Ford doesn't innovate like they used to.

With 30+ years experience of these cars I can say that you are completely wrong about that the suspension having reliability problems. It's the exact opposite, the hydraulics are crazy reliable. And if one sphere goes bad it doesn't affect the other more than when a coil spring breaks. I have seen cars standing outside for 20 years that after getting the engine running the suspension comes to life without even a hesitation. Also, by using real hydraulic oil everywhere including the breaks means that you never ever have any seized brake calipers. So don't believe any myth's from people who never worked on a Citroën. There is nothing complicated at all when working on the DS hydraulic system. Regarding the part about Citroën doing stuff just for the sake of being quirky, that's very much wrong too. You simply cannot draw any conclusion without doing some proper research. But hey, I totally agree on how brilliant the design is and also that the 60's Lincoln is a really beautiful car. To me it's the best looking car from the US.

Nothing ever was this nice, she turns 70 next week . Darn ,the car has aged better than me ! Still love them

Design rules? Of course there’s legislation on lighting, but the rest is applied physics. Make your own path through it. Citroëns of the 1934-1974 era are engineers’ cars. Form follows function. Even if Flaminio Bertoni was trained also as an artist, a sculptor, he had still been around car body workshops since his youth. The shapes he made weren’t meant to be easy on the eye of the contemporary. They were meant to work well with the mechanics of the car, and to educate the public to see a better way. Don’t look at other people’s solutions - look at the problem, and find a better solution of your own.

Merge Dodge into Ram (make Durango a Ram) and then focus resources in Jeep and Ram.

The DS sedan is very beautiful, it would have been interesting to hear Jason's view on the DS Break (station wagon/estate) as well. It looks quite different.

Loved the Citroen reference at the end. I'm restoring a 65 ID19F Break, which is the wagon version. I've owned 11D models throughout the years. In the movie, that "control handle" was actually the semi-autimatic gearshift control, which is a desirable option on the DS models. The steering wheel was bone stock except they cut the top off it!. The roof is held on by 17 bolts and is quite easily removed. A halfway decent special effects shop could fabricate a clear dome in a few days that would bolt right in. (Before I became a software leader at GM I spent a fair bit of time getting cars and vehicles for movies and commercials). In a different segment with your design partner, you mentioned the reliability of these cars-they are amazingly reliable when maintained by the book; All my cars were daily drivers. Keep the hydraulic fluids clean and address and issues quickly. Parts are plentiful, and when you really dig in to the engineering of them, they will blow you away. The body is only a small piece. I'm up in Marine City just North of Detroit if you'd ever like to chat.

I think Stellantis can be saved, Chrysler on the other hand... I think the real solution to Stellantis' problems is to discontinue Chrysler, make Dodge a discount brand (they can keep a halo muscle car), bring in cheaper RAMs and rationalize Jeep to 4 models Renegade, Cherokee or Compass, Grande Cherokee and Wrangler.

I'll take one of these old buggies over the new Jaaaggg.

It's a shame it doesn't exist anymore. Peuegot ate it.

I miss my 62 Lincoln. I wish I never sold it. Nicest car I ever owned.

Watched the full video. This is an excellent channel if you're interested in car design and history.

If today's eletronics were avaiilable back then, you know they would have used them

I love these wacky cars, and am fortunate to live near a couple of people who use them as daily drivers, so I see them all the time. The rear of the car has always reminded me of a classic '50s Hoover upright vacuum.

The suicide door were added as a solution to the shorter (for a luxury car) wheelbase of 123 inches. Rear seat passenger could egress without kicking the thick doors. For 1964 3 inches were added to the wheelbase and the curved side glass was eliminated so the roof could be wider adding more shoulder room. The 1958 Facel Vega Excellence eliminated the B pillar for its suicide door configuration. This caused problems opening the rear doors when the car was parked on and uneven surface. That and cost is why Ford kept the B pillar.

Stop making shit first. Start buy making quality units. Stop increasing the quantity of shit models.

I hate France and anything French except this timeless legend. In Dutch it called "Strijkijzer" ironing device especially the vintage Philips ironing handheld.

Remember Neons. Same product 2 ways and they didn't even change the name. Lol

Killer video! Wondering what could come next, maybe Mercedes SL Pagoda, Alfa c52 disco volante, Audi TT, BMW 507?? Keep it up!

Jaguar could make the best car in the world now (which they won't) ,but because their new image/rebranding is jaguar drivers/owners are poofy super gay pervs, I wouldn't be buying one even if they gave them away. Way to destroy your loyal base ownership.

This is a last ditch design addition after the recent carnage.

Ugly and slow ! 😊

Still a beautiful and elegant design!

Having owned and driven D's since the early 60's have to agree with most of what was given. However a couple of things. 1) Design - overall design was by the Italian sculptor and industrial designer Flaminio Bertoni. Overall engineering was by French aeronautical engineer André Lefèbvre. Paul Mages developed the overall hydraulic system (suspension/brakes/steering). The 1968 model year face life was by Robert Opron. 2) Having one of the suspension units 'fail' does not affect the rest of the system in the least. That one side of the car will ride stiff, but does not disable the car. 3) Brake control. The system does have 'feel' - it is just quite different from a 'normal' system. There is no 'pedal' traveI, as such, is all done by pressure. You put your foot on the control 'button' and you have brakes. Push a little harder and you get more braking force and the unit will increase the amount of pressure needed for more braking force. Does take a bit of getting use to - a week or so - but once you do, all other systems seem clumsy and crude. My wife and I, currently, have a 72 DS21BVH Pallas, a 69 ID21 SW, a 85 2CV Charelston and a 1992 XM. Living in California does make us a bit out of the ordinary in our little community.

Very reliable car, much more reliable than a modern car, by far, more features more reliable, no computers to go wrong, just reliable hydraulics like the ones in airplanes, air plane reliable tech in a car, exactly the opposite of what is claimed in the video, we wish we had modern cars that had suspensions that were reliable for half a century

In production for 20 years, designed by a sculptor, spec in 1955 included power disc brakes/steering and radial tyres. So it would also go round corners and stop - a challenge that was maybe a bit too much to ask of the Lincoln? They sold over a million cars and there are still a few in daily use in Europe, you can still get most of the parts.

Interesting discussion, more nuanced than the general Jaguar just killed itself for good viewpoint. Even though their concept car didnt get much applause by those creators, I didnt think it was all bad. Even though it reminds me a lot of Audi.

Maxbe Jaguar XJ 308 ? One villainous car.

A neighbours has one, its beautiful.

Beautiful looking car but fit and finish of the bodywork is very poor and this undermines the styling quite badly

Not as beautiful as the C-HR of course.

Mullaly ! God forbid!...say again ...who was the guy that wrecked Boeing?

Wrong! Peugeot/Citroen does not compete with Opel/ Vauxhall! Totally different markets, Spain/ France versus Germany/ Britain! Mirrored in design and marketing..sorry, but you do not understand the European and world car market! You may understand the US market and Chrysler bashing!