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Kelly Cowan
Canada
Приєднався 3 січ 2007
This channel is dedicated to motorcycle repairs, maintenance, modifications and services. Anything I learn I try to pass on to others in hopes they can benefit from it.
CLUTCHUPDATE
This shows how the home made clutch compression tool works and is attached to the bike. Thanks to my friend Dean for letting me capture this when we changed his clutch.
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Kuryakyn Tail Light Trim for Victory Cross Country
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Shiny new piece of chrome for the tail light of your Victory Cross Country. Such an easy and inexpensive way to dress up your bike!
Dobeck EJK Install into Victory Cross Country Tour
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Installation of the Dobeck EJK into a Victory Cross Country Tour.
Barnett Clutch for Victory Cross Country
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How to replace a motorcycle clutch on a Victory Cross Country. Barnett Clutch pack with upgraded pressure plate and spring. Full Video for animation can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/TcYsV063lk8/v-deo.html
Victory Keyless Ignition Operation
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Explanation of how the Victory Keyless Ignition and Alarm works.
Victory Cross Country Keyless Ignition and Alarm
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Install of the Victory Keyless Ignition and alarm into a Victory Cross Country Tour.
Hey Kelly, where did you purchase this this part?
Kelly, I'm sorry i was referring to the Kuryakyn Tail Light Trim piece.
@@CorneliusMaddox i originally ordered it from Fortnite.ca in Canada. That was a few years back though. They may be hard to find anywhere now.
Is there a video of you actually pulling off the basket? I was doing this and as i was tightening something with the basket broke
Used this video on my first bike, and used it on my newly purchased bike. Again, GREAT video. I used 6mm allen bolts and cut the heads off for alignment pins, and put a small cut in the end so i could remove with a small flat head screwdriver. Again Kelly Cowan, great video!
The spring clutch pressure plate snap ring that fits into the 8 center retainers but you didn't show how the L-shaped ring is installed. Mine came apart and I bought another one off of eBay that was taken apart.
Great step by step.
If your bike has an O2 sensor, you dont need this. You are wasting your money.
32k and no problems....
The snap ring in end of the clutch pack came loose inside the cover. Showing how the snap braids go in would be a help to me since mine was destroyed.
ua-cam.com/video/PQ4hg_DNGek/v-deo.htmlsi=ytuh78uXg2k2q6it. Brian did a better job of capturing that than I did.
about to attempt this, this weekend lol
ua-cam.com/video/wf-NWluh6d0/v-deo.html here's a trick to find the curved wdge
A light on the edge of each plate will quickly tell you which one is rounded
what size and thread is the bolt to use?
I think it was 10mm or maybe a 5/16... it just needs to be smaller than the opening it needs to go through. Here's a link to a video by Bryan Lyde that does a better job of explaining than mine did: ua-cam.com/video/PQ4hg_DNGek/v-deo.html
@@guitardedcowan Thanks. I get it now.
I uploaded a video with part# and specialty tool part numbers. Also a 05-07 Steel frame Manual in the desc. Thanks for your time Kelly
bro u a real one and kelly
Hi very nice video i will be doing my clutch in my cross country I wonder if you can tell me what thread you have on the bolt for the clutch remover and what size ring can you provide some dimension please thanks
how big is the ring that compresses the clutch
Hello from France. I have a small problem with the sixth gear , it jumps and I fall back to fifth under 130km/h (80 MPH) unless I keep the selector in high position with the foot . According to the dealer it would be the pinion of the 6 which would be worn and very expensive repair 3500 € 😱 . A colleague Victorien , told me that he thought that the concern came according to him from the fork and that it would be easier to change and therefore cheaper . Do you think he is in the truth ? Thank you and long live Victory, I have been in love with My Vision since May 2011. She has 66486 miles to date. Sorry for my English, but I am obliged to pass by translation it is like me, not very young lol.
If I have to guess, I think the delay may be right. The fork being out of alignment should only happen if you’ve opened it up already. But it would be worth opening up to see if there’s anything out of order with the fork.
@@guitardedcowan Hello and thank you for the response. The clutch was changed by the dealership; it has less than 6200 Miles; Is it possible that the mechanic put the fork back incorrectly? Yesterday I passed sixth at 80 miles, no problem, but at 62, I fell back into fifth with noise in the gearbox.
@@BATMANVISION it is possible. They should at least offer to investigate it after replacing the clutch.
@@guitardedcowan Thanks for the answer, to check if the fork is involved, do we have to dismantle everything or just the housing as a Victorian colleague told me? Thank you.
@@BATMANVISION just the cover. You will see it once the cover is off, but you will probably have to replace the primary gasket as well.
Not sure I’ll get a response as I’m several years late to the video lol. I JUST bought a 2015 CC and it has this system installed on it. However, the Scorpio fobs like don’t work. Dude said as long as the battery has power then you can press the ignition button and go. Which is scary cause then I can’t take the bike anywhere and lose sight of it cause someone can just walk up to it and ride off. Can I take the keyless ignition button out and put the stock key ignition switch back on and everything be like normal? Other than the security system still being on the bike. I just won’t use it. I’ll just use a key like normal to turn the ignition on and off and take key with me when I leave the bike. Thanks!
You have to be within 3 meters of the bike with the fob for it to start. If farther than that the bike won’t activate the ignition circuit to start. With that said, you can remove the system and use the stock key without issue. However, it’s kind of a package deal with the alarm… no keyless… no alarm.
@@guitardedcowan thanks for the reply! And that’s my point, The fobs won’t work. As in, they won’t turn on haha. I’ll have to look at it some more but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work. So I’m fine with no alarm and switching back to a keyed ignition. Just as long as I can switch those out and not cause any issues.
Hello will gas leak
Good question! Yes, but only if the tank is over half full. And even then, it escapes thru the overflow tube at the back of the bike.
Hello were car I purchase one of these from
Did you remove the left side bag when you layed it on its side?
Actually, no. The bike rested on the bag guard though.
Ive been watching this video for a while. U made the install very easy thank you lol. But now that i have it installed. I want to know how do i put it back to factory mode where it locks itself? And when the alarm is locked and i hit the start button. The alarm goes off(which is great) but when i hit button 2 to turn it off . the alarm turns off but the bike turns on. How do i change that
That's a good question and I'm not really clear on it either. I never changed mine from the standard set up. I did find the manual online tho so it may help: ridescorpio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SR-i900-Installation-User-Manual.pdf
@@guitardedcowan ok thanks. I going to look at it now..
Kelly, the Victory Service Manual - Clutch Assembly Step 1 shows that the Judder Springs are installed in the basket before the Judder Friction Plate.
The order won't really matter as that friction plate fits around the judder spring.
Thanks Kelly.. and thanks for the great video's.
Nice thanks for the info
I got it back together and it the bike will not go into 2nd through 6 now. 1st and neutral is no problem. Any suggestions?
Sounds like the shifter mechanism is misaligned. Do you have a copy of the manual?
I would like to know if this can be installed on Victory Vision?
Yes, but you'll need a different harness to connect to the Vision ignition system: ridescorpio.com/shop/vision-2008-2011/
I purchased a clutch kit from witch doctor, Barnett. Did not come with small flat steel or dampener steel
Those parts shouldn't wear so they can be reused. But still... I agree that it would be nice if they included them.
I know this is an old video but is this similar on a 2015 highball?
Jeffrey Turner The engine should be the same, but I wouldn’t tip it over.
Kelly Cowan I figured as much on that aspect, i have a lift so I’m not to worried about that, just not Easy to find how to videos for work on victory’s
What size is that center bolt ???
I have a question, but to get the best answer, you need a good description of the problem. I have a heel-toe shifter on a Kingpin Ness series. The clip holding the shifter on had been showing signs of fatigue, I underestimated just how tired it really was, and I lost the shifter on the interstate on the way to work.I was stuck in 5th gear. I rigged a shifter with a 1/2" wrench, as my bike is my sole means of getting about. The shopping process took way longer then I wanted, with delay after delay, wrong parts and cancelled orders, I ended up going way too long with the temporary fix. I ended up fabricating my own shifter, but then had problems shifting from 3rd to 4th. I tinkered with the linkage several times, which seemed to work for a day or two, then not at all. I thought it had something to do with my new shifter, but then found some info on the shift ratchet and how shift difficulty may occur, so I replaced it, put an extra washer (from brake line seals) to decrease lateral play, and now it shifts great, no load clanking, very smooth shifting up and down. Color that box fixed! However (ther is always a however with my projects) in the everyday driving, I really punished my clutch by skipping the difficulty of changing gears in traffic by just staying in a lower gear. Now I have slipping. Its bad if I try to really get on it, but not so bad I cant still drive to work, but I know Im running out of time before I'm walking. So, my question is...What in your opinion should I actually replace? The clutch assembly looks to be about $1000. I am on a budget, and strayed off already buying things I dont need, or wrong altogether, so I want to narrow it down as close as I can. I think it may just be the plates, thanks to your explanation of the clutch workings- very well done I might add. By the way, after inspecting the old ratchet shifter with the new one, I couldnt see or feel any difference at all in the two.I am certain the washer cleaning up the lateral play on the shifter arm was why I had shift problems, it just happened to be at the same time I replaced the heel/toe shifter, making it seem the two problems were the same. I'd appreciate your insight. Thanks again Jeff Carpenter
Jeff Carpenter From the description, I think you’re right that the issue you were seeing is unrelated to the shifter mechanism on the primary. As for what to replace, I haven’t seen any clutch baskets or springs fail, so just the plates should be required (and a new primary gasket). They are very reasonable from aftermarket suppliers like Barnett. (I’m not affiliated with Barnett in any way, but have had very positive interactions with them). If you plan to do the work yourself, my video and one made by Bryan Lyde that was made to show some of the stuff I glossed over in my video can help you get it done. But there will be the issue of the compression tool. I made mine out of the perfect storm of parts that just HAPPENED to be hanging around. But, if you spend the money on the Barnett tool you can skip a whole step in the removal. Either way. I wish you luck and thanks for reaching out.
Know it's old but can you make me one of those clamps or have a friend build me one
What a great video, fantastic job.
Kelly do U know if Polaris keyless ignition system is still available and where I can get one?
Nick Heinz I don’t think so. But the maker is actually Scorpio. They still make them.
What is the part number for the Victory kit?
I don't really know anymore. But, it was originally made by Scorpio.ridescorpio.com/srx900/
When replacing the factory clutch with the Barnett clutch kit do I also need to change the factory spring with the Barnett spring.
jaime tellez No. Most of the time the factory spring is more than enough.
It seems like you guys just like to hear yourselves talk. You dont talk about the real parts of these jobs...like aligning the gear shift in order to replace the primary and how difficult that is. In fact you cut away from that part of the video and dont show the difficulties involved. Stop giving advice on maintenance.
Good video. Did you ever complete the part 2 video? I don't see it in your video list. Thank you
Today I replaced the clutch on my cross roads,after 86000 miles we ride 2 up and pull behind trailer 500 pounds load,nothing but the best victory,also thanks for your help,I learned how to do it from your video.
Help me out please,after tightening the nut should I remove the large spring clip?
Imad Jubranimad Yes. You’ll need to remove it then you can take off the plate and spring.
Kelly Cowan thank you very much your video is very helpful.
Do you still have your Victory XCT?
Yes I do. I haven’t found anything I like better yet.
Kelly Cowan I still have my 2014 Victory XCT. I will be going on my second trip across the country and back, on it, this summer. It is an extremely reliable motorcycle. It is a shame Polaris pulled the plug. I will never do business with Polaris again.
Chance1957 As a business guy, I understand their decision and probably would have done the same. But as the President of our local Vic Riders Group, I was plenty disappointed. But we are starting see the Victory design elements creeping in now with the 2019 Dark Horse designs. They even used the anniversary paint scheme on the new Roadmaster. I bet they will make an Indian that I’ll add to my garage when the next engine is released. I’m not a Polaris fanboy, but I still prefer the build and the ease of service to most others. But hey, that’s just me. Enjoy your trip!
great vid
GREAT, EXCEPT YOU FORGOT TO SHOW HOW TO GET THE FINAL CLIP OUT.
Wayne Engen yea... battery in the camera died. Sorry.
Old video but new to me. Thanks for sharing Kelly. Good job!
Excellent video. Can you clarify, was the clutch assembly removed off the bike?
Actually no. The assembly stays in the bike and the only things that gets removed are the spring and plate to get at the plates.
Check out this video too. ua-cam.com/video/PQ4hg_DNGek/v-deo.html. Someone did an update to my video that does a better job of explaining the removal of the clips for the spring. Good luck!
Im not a welder, and I need to buy a compression tool, the only one that I can find that shows that it specifically works with the victory 106 is the one from Barnett and that thing oddly enough is 106 dollars. Is there a different cheaper one from another company that will fit and work? Im finding it difficult to spend 100 dollars on a tool that Im only going to use once every 3 years. Thanks.
Actually, that is the best one. It allows you to skip the step of removing the center spidle which can save some aggravations. If you price out getting the clutch done at a dealer, it will cost you about $600 so the $100 is a pretty good investment over all.
@@guitardedcowan Thats what I thought when I saw it, that it looks like it just attaches directly to the clutch. That would allow me to skip the center clutch plate removal step. Ok, thank you for responding so quickly, have a nice weekend.
I bought the Barnett friction & steel plate kit and am laying out the order, but I don't see the two rings you talk about at 9:20. Are those something I'll recover from the old plates when I take the old clutch apart?
Abraham at House of Dia You should reuse them from the old build. Be sure they included the narrow inner friction plate with the Barnett pack. That will be important to have so the judder spring and washer will fit inside it.
That is the shorter tooth one, right? The only one that is not the same as the others...?
Abraham at House of Dia - Yup. That’s the one.
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Nice video Kelly, but there really isn't anything that will help a Victurd motorcycle. They were pos from the get go.
Mr Bojangles glad you enjoyed it. Hope it helped. The principle is the same on almost any bike.
I can tell from your profile pic that you’re an equal opportunity dipshit. Love my Vic. Work on it a lot less than my Harleys.
Whole heartedly disagree with mrbojangles... second victory, first totaled after cager crushed me between curb and his car (bike protected me - came out unscathed) and that bike gave me 40k of no issues, and second purchase has 66k miles and runs like a new bike. Can't say the same for my other bikes! Best bike imo out there!!!
Ok I see what you mean.. easy job really. Thanks for the cool video.
Correct me if I am wrong but the Manuel shows judder spring then thin friction plate. You're vid shows small friction plate the judder spring.. can you confirm that Manuel is correct.
That is correct. As the judder sits inside the first plate the order shouldn’t matter. Here is a pic I posted on the of.net. www.thevog.net/gallery/photos/34910/
This is a helpful video, but still falls short for one changing out a Barnett clutch in a Victory motorcycle. I am in the process of changing out my clutch plates on a 2013 Judge. I ordered the replacement Barnett clutch kit, and it has no real instructions. They just say follow the Victory service manual and to use motorcycle oil with the new plates. Since there is not a service manual for a 2013 judge, I followed the closest one available which is a 2012 Vegas. One of the harder issues I encountered with replacing the clutch is taking off the outer side plates. The small plastic plate with two screws was hard to take off without damaging it, but the plate underneath it held by three screws was a bear. I ended up stripping the heads on two of the bolts trying to get them out. I finally had to take them out with a grinder. The screws are very soft and just came apart on me. I was able to find replacement screws at home depot when I get ready to replace the plate. Underneath the plate I found some type of glued on pad that I had a hard time getting off. It resembles an old type power puff with glue on both sides. Not sure what its role is. Anyway once I got this off I found the large o'ring was not even in its groove, it was waded up in the center of the groove circle. As of today, I have not been able to test my installation yet, since I am waiting on an order for a primary gasket and Shift Ratchet which are due in a few days. It only took me three days to get the Clutch kits itself from Witchdoctors. Anyway, as I figure it the two most inner EOM Judder rings have to be reused since none were included in the Barnett kit. I am only guessing here since there are no instructions but I followed the service manual. I was able to determine that the steel plates had a sharp and rolled side so I was able to install them per the manual, but on the pad plates I was unable to determine if they had a sharp or machined side. I did find a posting where one person said he had called Barnett and had been told that the pad plates could be installed either way so that is what I did. Anyway, it will be a few days before I can test out my new clutch. It did give me time to go back and recheck the installation again. I made my own spring compression tool out of a PVC cap I got from home depot. I first purchased a 1/2" bolt but found that it was too large to go through the clutch lifter hole, so had to go back and get a 3/8" bolt which worked find. PS. Make sure to check that all bolts are removed from the primary cover. I left one bolt on which was in a hard place to see, and it took me a while to figure this out as I was trying to pull the cover off. Plus, I am reusing the EOM pressure plate and diaphragm spring on the outer edge. If you add this video to the present one you have close to a clear path to redo your Victory clutch. ua-cam.com/video/PQ4hg_DNGek/v-deo.html