Patrick Kindlon
Patrick Kindlon
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Thanks, But How Do We Do Better?
Just some rambling about 2024 vs 2025 and the batting average we should be shooting for.
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Відео

VIBE SHIFT For Comic Books?
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Does the president impact art? Maybe. Does the president impact the BUSINESS of art? Seems like it. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/f8TrEwz Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Ji...
Will You Enter the Race To the Bottom?
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If we get cheap now, the austerity will never end. High-quality product, or death. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/f8TrEwz Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/...
Just Be THE MOST of One Thing
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New readers are choosing manga. There's a lotta reasons for that, and among them is the simple idea that it is unafraid to BE something specific. Whereas American comic books are feeling more and more mushy in intent and execution. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wa...
MAKING the Publishers Change Their Ways
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Comic creators are still pushing the boulder up the hill of megacorporation doing the right thing. I think it's worth considering that we just let it roll. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/f8TrEwz Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspire...
Hit a Career Roadblock? Consider Blackballing Yourself
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Is your work better when you have nothing to lose? Are you more creative when you feel like there's nobody else to please? Yes. Obviously. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel ...
Can Good Guys Be a Lil Bad? Or Does Your Brain Not Work?
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How the death of nuance means the murder of good characters. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/f8TrEwz You can orde...
"If You've Got Nothing To Hide, You've Got Nothing To Worry About..."
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On the chilling effect the online mob (and in-office mob) can have on your work. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/...
OH NO! Someone Turned Off the MONEY!
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Another plea to those working exclusively in corporate spaces to please moonlight in arenas that value creativity. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul...
CARE ALERT! Call the CARE COPS! We Got Ourselves a CARER!
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Responding to a viewer question about why I care about what corporate publishers do. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.c...
Are You A BRAND (and if so do you pray for the sweet release of DEATH)?
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Are comic creators pushed into caricature and category by editors? Or do they embrace it willingly? patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wa...
BETTER BOOKS = BETTER SALES QUESTION MARK QUESTION MARK
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How much better quality would a comic book have to be to bump its sales? In corporate books, it matters less than 10%. But what about real comic books? patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel g...
What Do AWARDS Actually REWARD?
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Ditko was right. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a.co/d/f8TrEwz You can order both through your local comic shop: www.co...
That Guy We Only Mention WHEN IT SUITS US
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So we're free to reference Warren Ellis, but not acknowledge him? Make it make sense. patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story inspired by 90s anime by Patrick Kindlon, Marco Ferrari, and Jim Campbell: a.co/d/eafhzMz Pick up STRINGER, a sports/crime/international travel graphic novel by Patrick Kindlon, Paul Tucker, and Wallace Ryan: a....
Are We OUTDATED and LAME AS HELL?
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American creators are in a losing race against manga. What's the reason we can't keep up? Comment sections are sure it's politics. But could it be that young people and casual readers are edgier than we give them credit? Could it be that they want provocative stories with some spice to them? patrickkindlon.substack.com/ anothersmashhit at gmail.com Pick up ANTIOCH, a superhero prison story insp...
Meet Your NEW PARTNER
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Meet Your NEW PARTNER
PASSIONLESS Creators, Please Step Aside
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PASSIONLESS Creators, Please Step Aside
CONCEPT Comes First
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CONCEPT Comes First
Why I Stay In Direct Market Comic Books
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Why I Stay In Direct Market Comic Books
Ed Talk
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Ed Talk
Signaling Yourself Into Poverty And Bad Vibes
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Signaling Yourself Into Poverty And Bad Vibes
Petty Name-Calling Is Costing Us (Me) Money
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Petty Name-Calling Is Costing Us (Me) Money
The Endless BODY TYPE Discourse
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The Endless BODY TYPE Discourse
What Makes a Good Comic?
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What Makes a Good Comic?
Labor Unions For Comic Creators
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Labor Unions For Comic Creators
AI Apocalypse? At This Point, Why Not?
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AI Apocalypse? At This Point, Why Not?
The Practical Argument for Creator-Owned Comics
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The Practical Argument for Creator-Owned Comics
Reader Question: Do Artists Have Leverage Over Writers?
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Reader Question: Do Artists Have Leverage Over Writers?
Viewer Question: What's a Fair Rate for Artists?
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Viewer Question: What's a Fair Rate for Artists?
Viewer Question: Pitching To Publishers
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Viewer Question: Pitching To Publishers

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  • @arefx
    @arefx 2 дні тому

    Wishing you a happy Thanksgiving even though you cheat for Australia.

  • @mikestotaldragonchannel3743
    @mikestotaldragonchannel3743 6 днів тому

    I like the free flowing train of thought style. It's very relatable.

  • @Jaktalksgames
    @Jaktalksgames 10 днів тому

    I hope it will be pretty tame. I want new things and for the quality of books to be much better than they have been.

  • @trydowave
    @trydowave 2 місяці тому

    Burp

  • @zachchapman4831
    @zachchapman4831 2 місяці тому

    Love the beard. As it's been a little wacky for the last few months for the market, I highly recommend trying to branch out of the normal comic collecting crowd. For me, this meant tabling events at non comic book events. So I went to several horror conventions to table to sell my horror comics. As a complete no-name I've done very well at those. One that I'm thinking about in the future is a kaiju convention because I have a kaiju comic I'm working on.

  • @n.senada
    @n.senada 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for spreading this message for more than a decade, Patrick, it literally saved my sanity/life. I graduated Gymnasium (german HS) in 2011. Was totally obsessed with music and tried to figure out a way of doing that one thing full time. It took about a year of working at a gas station and pretending I was into that lifestyle until I was burned out on music itself. Then Self Defense Family played here in 2012 and not only put on one of the best live performances I have ever seen, which revived my love for music, but also made it very clear to me (in part via the beautiful socratic dialogues on the old SDF tumblr) that the way forward for somebody who actually values art in the 21st century is to avoid trying to live off of it. It was your message that made me earn a STEM degree instead of a music degree and is the reason why I now lead a quite comfortable life where I also have time and money for my passion and don't have to say yes to anything that doesn't make the world a more beautiful place. I don't want to imagine how my life would look like if I hadn't stepped into that club you played at that night.

  • @GreggNowhere
    @GreggNowhere 2 місяці тому

    The beard makes you look like Oliver Queen. Keep it.

  • @80kanne
    @80kanne 2 місяці тому

    You're the comic Jesus, pal, keep it up!

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 2 місяці тому

    You say the same thing on any video. What are your books about? What comics are you working on?

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 2 місяці тому

    This video is like those self video journals in the movie the Martian or Avatar. Are you from the future?

  • @dontgetbored
    @dontgetbored 2 місяці тому

    my best advice from a creative director "be very something"

  • @algofa6163
    @algofa6163 2 місяці тому

    That video was for me! Nice shirt also

  • @algofa6163
    @algofa6163 2 місяці тому

    Nice shirt

  • @HVU52
    @HVU52 2 місяці тому

    Gotta keep the beard going! I always look forward to your takes on all things art-related. 😊✊🏻 Long Live Drug Church and SDF.

    • @AnotherSmashHit
      @AnotherSmashHit 2 місяці тому

      Beard is brutal to look at in person. The homeless pity me.

    • @HVU52
      @HVU52 2 місяці тому

      @@AnotherSmashHit Leave it until October 11th and I’ll let you know how gnarly it looks from 15 feet or so away. 😂✊🏻 Fully agree with your points, by the way. Gotta go full-ass into whatever it is you’re aspiring towards. The people will love whatever you give them as long as the intention/passion’s there.

  • @jamescandeletta6868
    @jamescandeletta6868 2 місяці тому

    Are DC compact editions going to save comics? Seems like a smart move but the idea of reading Watchman at that size hurts my eyes just thinking about it.

    • @AnotherSmashHit
      @AnotherSmashHit 2 місяці тому

      They won't save comics on their own, but if we can get some common sense moves like those from the Big Two we'll be in a better position.

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 3 місяці тому

    There’s plenty of work out there for artists or she can create her own business. She’s not a victim. She signed the contract.

  • @willis9421
    @willis9421 3 місяці тому

    The answer to your question is marketing. Polarizing political imagery draws eyeballs. It’s dogshit surface level marketing but it’s effective in a mass scope. Genuine creative media transcends cliches and tropes and taps into something universal. Idk

  • @northlakeghost
    @northlakeghost 3 місяці тому

    preach

  • @adamschulte6248
    @adamschulte6248 4 місяці тому

    This video (along with a few others, WPT etc)helped me out regarding my creative output for things last few years a lot. Years ago when I interviewed you I spoke off camera about seemingly being black balled in comedy due to being a loud mouth about actual bad people and maybe it was in my head or maybe it was real. My paranoia became reality to this day. However being on my own and being able to do things for charity year after year while not bolstering my personal “brand value” and staying away as far as possible from any corporate or corporate adjacent forced guidelines for creative output. I mean, have you ever been at a hotel and thought “ya know, this lighthouse painting sure would look great in the living room” ? Probably not. That’s how I’ve viewed a lot of the entertainment industry I’ve been part of for the last 12+ years. This video kinda helped me reinforce my stance(s) on things but it ALSO helped me adjust things without just being a loudmouth but a more serious and focused person and selectively being a loudmouth when it’s actually needed. I’ve been proud of my creative output for a long time but did the Michael Cera thing when I got passed over so I made my own thing and it did great things for myself but others around me and those in need from the various charity shows over the last decade plus. My personal creative output is about me, but what I wanted to put out there wasn’t, it was about others and there have been times I’ve gotten in my head and forgotten about that because I was in my head. Reaffirming the idea of being black balled or just creating outsider art and being happy with it, being able to help out others in that process has been super helpful to me and I hope it helps others. So thank you for this one, stoked to see you on tour this year. PS - stop pickin on moon knight, he’s doing the best he can

  • @owengieni-xo5zh
    @owengieni-xo5zh 4 місяці тому

    So good!!! “And if the answer is Moon knight?… “. 😂😂😂

  • @acn1111696
    @acn1111696 4 місяці тому

    You said it best “They believe the reader is incapable of seeing the characters as human beings.” This idea, not just in comics but even modern everyday life, that morals cannot be ambiguous strips ourselves of the imperfections of human consciousness. Spoon feeding capable people information takes from their willingness to actually learn and grow as a human being. Trust the audience, give them the information, allow them to come to a conclusion of their own instead of digging a way towards conclusion without thinking that a person isn’t smart enough find the alternative route.

  • @misterjingles666
    @misterjingles666 4 місяці тому

    had no clue you had an active youtube channel. cool

  • @thecollapseexperiment
    @thecollapseexperiment 4 місяці тому

    FYI I was accused, similar to Ed, at a previous job. Even after apologizing, not warranted, wanting it to just end, I was told it didn't change anything and the witch hunt continued. You don't know how evil these people are until you are in their sights.

  • @mattyshouse
    @mattyshouse 4 місяці тому

    Heavy topic. Excellent analysis on the situation. Love how you mentioned those making snide comments and bullying Ed, didnt actually care about anyone in the situation or the things that happened. I think this is a result of how we learn to build self confidence as children in tearing others down to feel better about ourselves. Learned behavior that gets amplified in a constant internet world. The human species seems to be addicted to self righteousness. Often times its too hard to turn the eye of the world on ourselves. Sad situation all around.

  • @nickking2959
    @nickking2959 4 місяці тому

    I’m hoping to get a comic collection published next year or the year after. How do I go about getting pull quotes when the time comes? Do professionals expect compensation for that kind of thing? Is a cold DM a gauche approach? Edit: What’s more, do pull quotes matter?

    • @acn1111696
      @acn1111696 4 місяці тому

      If I understand correctly it sounds like maybe you just go about proper citations and maybe hiring an editor to make sure everything is proper done, legally speaking. As far as compensation, I don’t think it’s necessary as long as it falls within the lines of fair use. Hopefully I understood your question properly.

  • @driedmango1914
    @driedmango1914 4 місяці тому

    I like the emphasis on building something distinctive. This is an area where creative and commercial interests can align. People naturally “screen out” a lot of information unless there is a cue for memory retrieval. Consider how overlapping conversations at a party are just chatter until you hear your name. Or after buying a new car, suddenly you notice the make and model much more often. This gives a clue into how the mind works. The same behavior applies in shopping environments, whether it's comic book stores or grocery stores. Immediately recognizing elements of a character or a product is a large part of why Spider-Man outsells most other comics, or why Coca-Cola sells more than most other sodas. Focusing on the politics of not offending people distracts from this important aspect of human behavior and results in things that largely blend into the background. When brands and characters prioritize not offending anyone over distinctiveness, they risk becoming invisible. Even negative attention requires recognition and awareness, which only comes from standing out in a crowded market.

  • @connorflatt
    @connorflatt 4 місяці тому

    I wish more star wars fans understood this perspective. acolyte isnt great but nowhere near as bad as incel fanboys make it out to be. A lot of what you have to say translates to almost all forms of media and i find it tasteful and insightful. your videos alway feel like a level headed and empathetic conversation. been following sdf for a long time, just be authentic and thoughtful. it's alway been your selling point.

  • @abbycote2010
    @abbycote2010 5 місяців тому

    You don't feel capable of writing a good villain without making them say racist slurs?

    • @AnotherSmashHit
      @AnotherSmashHit 5 місяців тому

      No. Nor did I say that. I rewatched to see if I left any means for you to take it as that, and I plainly didn’t. Do not put words in my mouth. Thank you.

  • @KeithCallas
    @KeithCallas 5 місяців тому

    Is Leaded Gasoline ever being released?

  • @differentxminds9907
    @differentxminds9907 5 місяців тому

    Comparing Big Two work to playing covers is honestly so perfect.

  • @sebastianvonp1467
    @sebastianvonp1467 5 місяців тому

    You should check out some comic stores in Madrid. The scene there is really healthy (still corperate but diverse). Also France and Belgium has oldschool and new talents (Cromwell Stone or Jovantore, to name some works).

  • @cleanhits8361
    @cleanhits8361 5 місяців тому

    You look really handsome and speak very eloquently here

  • @DirkDigglez
    @DirkDigglez 5 місяців тому

    “Can’t sing worth a damn” I beg to differ brother, stoked to hear more of what you’ve been working on 🤙🏻

  • @zachchapman4831
    @zachchapman4831 5 місяців тому

    You don't like the CIA Neppo brand?

  • @zachchapman4831
    @zachchapman4831 5 місяців тому

    DONNIE THE BAD BOY! WRITING BAD BOY VENOM.

    • @zachchapman4831
      @zachchapman4831 5 місяців тому

      I always thought of him like discount Aaron after reading two issues of his Thor then giving up.

  • @bambjr1221
    @bambjr1221 6 місяців тому

    ARTISTS having to try and SELL their work is the biggest crime of all In a JUST world, a storyteller could be such, but we all take such "kawn-tint" off the shelf (curated by conglomerate comics'es) for granted. It's ludicrous and nonsense - because the majority insists it be so! Because "humans lie," and those at the top know that, most of all! Yeah, ive never had the money to invest in the "pulp rags" that are comic books [shit was so in the 90s even!!!],["its an ongoing story with 50+ issues?!... Ima just rent a video game for a flat rate"]... sad but true that the "big personalities" are hired, cuz thats an extra hook for to profit off of - the "genuine artists" are shoved aside cuz "they have True Talent that will be perceived and patronized otherwise," was probably(/hopefully) the thought.. even before patreon tho, and that is still a gamble. The fact that "AD(H)D" has only increased DOES make it more difficult for "money-bags" to pick true artists over what sells. "People dont wanna pay for art, thats not what we do here - we sell licenses, if you aint BIG, neither is your character." I spit in contempt.

  • @HimFinancial
    @HimFinancial 6 місяців тому

    Let's gooo

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 6 місяців тому

    It was a good faith comment. When I found you I’d never heard of you so I was trying to understand your background.

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 6 місяців тому

    You’ve been making these videos for months. Are you personally having trouble getting work because you’re not fitting these boxes? Are you being held back from making your books?

    • @AnotherSmashHit
      @AnotherSmashHit 6 місяців тому

      No, I’m blessed to have good relationships with publishers. But as I’ve said a few times, creator-owned comics need corporate comics to be healthy. I feel they’re working against their interests, and therefore mine.

  • @Yombleflobber
    @Yombleflobber 6 місяців тому

    One of the reasons I don't read comic books is that there are no rules. There's nothing to hold onto. There are very few series I enjoy, and they are usually from Indie authors and publishers, thus making them often pretty difficult to find in the wild. I like reading series like Atomic Robo, Chew, and Dr. McNinja because they're fun without me having to have a lot of Prior Narrative Knowledge, and they follow a fairly sequential narrative style that generally makes sense. Maybe having some knowledge of the Comics Industry as a whole might enhance the experience, but the whole story is not predicated on the assumption that I picked out all the Easter eggs. Also, while the art styles of all of these series is really different, I seldom find myself wondering what is going on. "Better" is, in many ways, subjective, but if you're trying to appeal to new readers, there are some clear ways comic books can be made more accessible.

  • @zachchapman4831
    @zachchapman4831 6 місяців тому

    Reporting for duty: Promising to make MY comics 20%+ better!✍

  • @asfdj3333
    @asfdj3333 6 місяців тому

    The question is what: "better" is? Something that is considered as a "classic" usually is not better than something "new", but people like it more. How to make something "new" "better", than something "classic" ?

  • @JollyGreenComics
    @JollyGreenComics 6 місяців тому

    Patrick what comics are you currently working on?

  • @lg1737
    @lg1737 6 місяців тому

    What is your fav comic

  • @hayden7135
    @hayden7135 6 місяців тому

    All the comic shit is pretty faggoty to me personally, but this is good advice generally.

  • @RobGuilloryArt
    @RobGuilloryArt 6 місяців тому

    I just wish you would tell us how you really feel, Patrick.

  • @rileyknox6147
    @rileyknox6147 6 місяців тому

    what dirt does kelly thompson have on the committee

  • @gnielse4474
    @gnielse4474 6 місяців тому

    I think the problem is that they hire people who don't understand the point of these stories is to excite. People would ignore the political aspects if the main purpose was to still excite them. The art is almost always boring. Nothing with any energy. The stories are retreads of old comic stories or retreads of tv shows that were popular at one point. Why would any kid want that? I dont even know if the gore and boobs would help cause if it was drawn by some of the people today it would still bore me to tears. I remember seeing this Kelly Sue Deconnick book called B Planet (censored cause UA-cam) and that book was painfully boring to look at. It wasnt bad illustration for an instructional manual but it also didn't excitement for anything in it. So i left it there. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Chainsaw Man has some amazing visuals. The story is pretty silly and makes basically no sense but someone is gonna make a mallet out of their blood, fight a horde of zombies, grow a chainsaw from their head, etc. Steve Ditko comics still have amazing visuals. Especially his creator owned stuff like Static and Mr A. It's not impossible but there needs to be writing talent to imagine the ideas and illustrators to execute. I dont know if there is enough talent in the mainstream for that

  • @gnielse4474
    @gnielse4474 6 місяців тому

    I think the biggest problem is that people immediately bowed to the people in the smokey scheming room by and large. For some reason we've had a decade plus of people not realizing why gossip isn't evidence. Ellis at worst seemed immoral but it's a transactional sin with someone else in a consensual manner from what few facts seemed to come out. Ellis also somewhat created the environment. The typical cancel culture engager isn't that far removed from the typical Ellis anti-hero. He promoted the idea of being a jerk for all the right causes and it being a get out of jail free card for any personal quirk positive or negative. Not in just his stories but through his website. It is interesting in stories and is fine to be tell but it came back on him for promoting it through his gossipy forum. Not to blame the victim but there is a bit of reap what you sow. The current cancel culture bullies are going to eat it even more when it comes around and not just cause it was a sin of ommision like Ellis not realizing what he was doing. I think the current group knows exactly what they are doing and why. I also wont read x-force just cause giving money to dc and marvel feels like I'm funding the bad behavior being talked about by you and me

  • @zachchapman4831
    @zachchapman4831 6 місяців тому

    The big two just pair washed writers with hip artists half their age. That's their version of this. So the art has modern sensibilities but the stories... not so much.