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Rose Davey does Art
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I am an artist and writer with a passion for discussing paintings of the past in the context of the contemporary. I hope to give confidence to conclusions reached from just looking. I want to examine art from the viewpoint of the artist rather than art historian. The depicted subject matter of historical painting may vary greatly from what artists depict today, but we continue to try and communicate our ideas through the application of colour upon a flat surface within a frame. Artists of the past and present succeed or fail based on their ability to conduct the space between objects, the description of light, a harmony of shape, sensations of colour and the exploitation of the frame. It is the orchestration of these formal elements that determines quality. A wealth of symbolic value may be assigned to an artwork, but unless it possesses formal quality, it is unlikely to hold our attention.
Same Same by Rose Davey
Same Same is a text written and read by Rose Davey to accompany the exhibition Same Same at Sid Motion Gallery, September 2022. The exhibition includes the artists Remi Ajani, Gabriele Beveridge, Rose Davey, Mary Ramsden, Genevieve Stevens, Tessa Whitehead, Gary Woodley and Rose Wylie. Each artist was invited to make the same work twice.
Same Same
Rose Davey
September 2022
Same Same invites artists to make something again; to revisit an idea or action.
Experience assumes a second attempt will apply knowledge acquired from the earlier effort, but does the instruction to make again excel or stagnate creativity?
Art schools instruct students to “make it bigger, make it outside, make it on a piece of toast and eat it.” The message is to interrogate through the research of repetition if one hopes to produce something of quality and vision.
The artist needs to make a lot of stuff before they know what to keep, and it’s knowing what to keep that reveals the talent of the artist.
Agnes Martin confirms that an artist is a person who can recognise failure.[1] But how the artist recognises failure, is unlikely to be described in words. The personal logic or criteria applied by the artist, which declares the work a success, remains beyond comprehension. Yet this state of not knowing, often secures achievement. Philip Guston describes how being completely baffled by one of his paintings is a highly desired state.[2] Art is a method of acquiring knowledge without being exactly sure what knowledge one is attempting to acquire.
Klaas Hoek, a tutor at the Slade, once explained how he was creatively paralysed after making a ‘successful’ artwork. He described how the work of art embodied all that he wanted to say, and the achievement rendered him void. How did he reverse out of the cul-de-sac of success? He did it again. The same work was not the same work. It was a route back out into the not knowing, a happily obscure place from which artists can begin.
The action of again is not only a method to escape creative stagnation, or a rigorous research tool. To reference Bridget Riley, it is an action that amplifies visible events which singly would go unnoticed. [3]
The amplification of again, is brilliantly demonstrated in The Cholmondeley Ladies, a work which inspired the concept of Same Same. Painted in England in 1600, it shows two women dressed the same, sat side by side in bed, holding identical babes in arms. It is an immediately arresting image that illustrates how repetition can warrant a work iconic. The women’s visibility is magnified by the presence of the other. We are forced into an elaborate game of spot the difference as our eye is propelled back and forth across the reflection, recording with relish the many subtle differences in dress, decoration, eye colour, and masked emotion.
The strategy of again is not always considered a positive move. Making something multiple times can be viewed as capitalising on one’s success. John Berger explains how the artist simultaneously desires and fears success.[4] An artist labelled as ‘successful’ can often be accused of cultivating a production line to meet demand. Yet if one sells little and is not deemed to be a ‘successful’ artist, but repeats the same idea or action, their integrity remains intact. An obscure hero of lone creative ritual.
Can something be made too many times? The answer is surely down to the individual. If an artist’s understanding of what they make becomes too comprehensive and the lesson complete, then surely it is time to seek a more obscure process that works to a creative curiosity and avoids art as product. But perhaps this is too rigid a statement - to dictate or question any artists process is to misunderstand the nature of art. To quote Gary Woodley, Art is what the artist chooses to take responsibility for, it is not for anyone else to decide.
[1] Agnes Martin, “Beauty is the Mystery of Life”, 1989 in Agnes Martin, ed. Francis Morris and Tiffany Bell (Tate Publishing, London, 2015) p.159
[2] Philip Guston, talk at “Art/Not Art” conference, University of Minnesota, 1978, in Philip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations, ed. Clark Coolridge (University of California Press, Los Angeles, 2011) p.280
[3] Bridget Riley - Painting the Line, BBC Studios - Documentary Unit, 2021
[4] John Berger, 1965 “The Success and Failure of Picasso” in Failure, Documents of Contemporary Art, ed. by Lisa Le Feuvre(Whitechapel Gallery, London, 2010) p.28
Same Same
Rose Davey
September 2022
Same Same invites artists to make something again; to revisit an idea or action.
Experience assumes a second attempt will apply knowledge acquired from the earlier effort, but does the instruction to make again excel or stagnate creativity?
Art schools instruct students to “make it bigger, make it outside, make it on a piece of toast and eat it.” The message is to interrogate through the research of repetition if one hopes to produce something of quality and vision.
The artist needs to make a lot of stuff before they know what to keep, and it’s knowing what to keep that reveals the talent of the artist.
Agnes Martin confirms that an artist is a person who can recognise failure.[1] But how the artist recognises failure, is unlikely to be described in words. The personal logic or criteria applied by the artist, which declares the work a success, remains beyond comprehension. Yet this state of not knowing, often secures achievement. Philip Guston describes how being completely baffled by one of his paintings is a highly desired state.[2] Art is a method of acquiring knowledge without being exactly sure what knowledge one is attempting to acquire.
Klaas Hoek, a tutor at the Slade, once explained how he was creatively paralysed after making a ‘successful’ artwork. He described how the work of art embodied all that he wanted to say, and the achievement rendered him void. How did he reverse out of the cul-de-sac of success? He did it again. The same work was not the same work. It was a route back out into the not knowing, a happily obscure place from which artists can begin.
The action of again is not only a method to escape creative stagnation, or a rigorous research tool. To reference Bridget Riley, it is an action that amplifies visible events which singly would go unnoticed. [3]
The amplification of again, is brilliantly demonstrated in The Cholmondeley Ladies, a work which inspired the concept of Same Same. Painted in England in 1600, it shows two women dressed the same, sat side by side in bed, holding identical babes in arms. It is an immediately arresting image that illustrates how repetition can warrant a work iconic. The women’s visibility is magnified by the presence of the other. We are forced into an elaborate game of spot the difference as our eye is propelled back and forth across the reflection, recording with relish the many subtle differences in dress, decoration, eye colour, and masked emotion.
The strategy of again is not always considered a positive move. Making something multiple times can be viewed as capitalising on one’s success. John Berger explains how the artist simultaneously desires and fears success.[4] An artist labelled as ‘successful’ can often be accused of cultivating a production line to meet demand. Yet if one sells little and is not deemed to be a ‘successful’ artist, but repeats the same idea or action, their integrity remains intact. An obscure hero of lone creative ritual.
Can something be made too many times? The answer is surely down to the individual. If an artist’s understanding of what they make becomes too comprehensive and the lesson complete, then surely it is time to seek a more obscure process that works to a creative curiosity and avoids art as product. But perhaps this is too rigid a statement - to dictate or question any artists process is to misunderstand the nature of art. To quote Gary Woodley, Art is what the artist chooses to take responsibility for, it is not for anyone else to decide.
[1] Agnes Martin, “Beauty is the Mystery of Life”, 1989 in Agnes Martin, ed. Francis Morris and Tiffany Bell (Tate Publishing, London, 2015) p.159
[2] Philip Guston, talk at “Art/Not Art” conference, University of Minnesota, 1978, in Philip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations, ed. Clark Coolridge (University of California Press, Los Angeles, 2011) p.280
[3] Bridget Riley - Painting the Line, BBC Studios - Documentary Unit, 2021
[4] John Berger, 1965 “The Success and Failure of Picasso” in Failure, Documents of Contemporary Art, ed. by Lisa Le Feuvre(Whitechapel Gallery, London, 2010) p.28
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Understanding Crivelli with Rose Davey
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Enjoy a detailed look at Carlo Crivelli's strange and compelling painting, 'The Vision of the Blessed Gabriele', 1489. Artist and writer Rose Davey explores its saucy reference points and conceptual clout. This incredible work, often overlooked due to its crude aesthetic, is an invaluable lesson in the power of paint and its ability to deceive and present multiple realities within one image.
5 Paintings Free to see in London
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Rose Davey takes you through 5 of her favourite paintings free to see in London collections. Uccello's 'George & the Dragon' 1470, in relation to SHAPE. Anon, 'The Cholmondeley Ladies', 1600, in relation to REPETITION Domenichino's 'A Sibyl, 1620's in relation to COLOUR Zurbaran's 'Saint Francis in Meditiation' 1635, in relation to COMPOSITION Dyce's 'Pegwell Bay', 1858, in relation to TIME
Rose Davey's TOUR of 'Artemisia' at the National Gallery, London, 2020-21
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Rose Davey takes you on a tour of paintings from the National Gallery's historic exhibition, 'Artemisia', on show from October 2020 - Jan 2021 .
TRAILER - Lockdown Lecture - PIERO
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A 1 minute trailer for a Lockdown Lecture on PIERO
Rose Davey's Art History Quickies - Jan van Eyck's 'Arnolfini Portrait'
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Artist and writer Rose Davey takes a brief look at one of the greatest paintings ever made, 'The Arnolfini Portrait' by Jan van Eyck.
Rose Davey's Art History Quickies - Artemisia as Allegory
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Artist and writer Rose Davey takes a fascinating look at one of Artemisia Gentileschi's most celebrated works.
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 08 - The Artist on her Own Work
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Artist and writer Rose Davey takes you through her own work and ideas, looking at the successes and failures she has experienced as an artist over the past 15 years.
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 07 - Cezanne
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Artist and writer Rose Davey examines the complex nature of Cezanne's perception of painting, which lead him into abstraction.
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 06 - Piero della Francesca
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Artist and writer, Rose Davey delves into the beautifully ordered world of early Renaissance master Piero.
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 05 - Gustave Courbet
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Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 05 - Gustave Courbet
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 04 - GOYA
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Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 04 - GOYA
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 03 - Carlo Crivelli's Missing Blob of Wax
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Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 03 - Carlo Crivelli's Missing Blob of Wax
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 02 - Jan van Eyck: A Vision Through the Frame
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Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 02 - Jan van Eyck: A Vision Through the Frame
Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 01 - Artemisia: A Response
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Rose Davey's Lockdown Lecture 01 - Artemisia: A Response
You have inspired me to go see the Crivelli works at the National Gallery this week. Thanks so much for posting this. 👏👏👏🫡
Thank you for all the lovely comments, so pleased you have enjoyed the lectures
wonderful lecture!
Another thoughtful and intelegent lecture on art history. Thank you.
Anothre intellegent lecture on art history.
A thoughtful and intellegent art historian! Thank you
49:41 What a wonderful lecture. I saw a Crivelli in Ancona three months ago and am increasingly fascinated by this artist who was such a presence in the Marche. I very much enjoyed your presentation as I sat in front of a warm fire on a cold nite in Minnesota. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge❤.
The Catholic Church is not against genitals, last I checked. But it does concern itself the purpose of usage
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A really thoughtful clip Rose. Some very interesting ideas and questions. Thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was of interest
Thank you! 😊 I was in London last week and managed to see most of his paintings again.
So glad you like it!
Listening while working. Great lecture once again!
Brilliant and insightful! Thank you for sharing!
Just duscovered your channel! Brilliant work! Keep it coming and hope moreand more people discover you!
Thanks very much! I will keep going...