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Alleged Seams in John Part 8: A truly silly argument from silence

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Alleged Seams in John Part 7: No one is asking where Jesus is going?

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Alleged Seams in John Part 6: John 14:30-31 "Arise, let us go."

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Alleged Seams in John Part 5: Mary of Bethany

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Alleged seams in John Part 4: Should John 5 come right before John 7?

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Alleged Seams in John Part 3: "The other side" of the Sea of Galilee

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Alleged Seams in John Part 9: Chapter 20-21

This will be the last installment in my series on alleged seams in John. Does the fact that John 20:30-31 sounds sort of ending-like provide evidence of an editor? I answer no.
I also examine the very strange scholarly tendency to turn John 21:24 on its head. That verse says that the Beloved Disciple is the one who "wrote these things," but oddly, various scholars take this to mean that he didn't write these things, that he merely "stood behind" the Gospel or took "spiritual responsibility" for it. This is the opposite of what the verse says!
This topic gives me the opportunity to read a favorite quotation from Richard Bauckham on the meaning of the word "wrote" in that verse. Bauckham has "bad tone" (which is a good thing).
Richard Bauckham, _Jesus and the Eyewitnesses_, 2nd ed., pp. 358-361

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Alleged Seams in John Part 8: A truly silly argument from silence

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Alleged Seams in John Part 8: A truly silly argument from silence

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Today's seams in John video describes a truly strange, truly silly claim of a seam or aporia in John. The claim is that in John 19 Jesus is left outside in view of the crowd when Pilate is supposed to be questioning him back in the Praetorium. Huh? Apparently John isn't allowed to leave anything to basic reading or hearing comprehension. If he doesn't spell. it. out. he's saying that it didn't ...

Alleged Seams in John Part 7: No one is asking where Jesus is going?

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Alleged Seams in John Part 7: No one is asking where Jesus is going?

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Is there a contradiction between John 16:5, where Jesus says that none of the disciples is asking him, "Where are you going?" and John 13:36, where Peter asks Jesus, "Where are you going?" I argue that there isn't. Watch (or listen) to find out why. Plus, even if this were contradictory, it would hardly be evidence for a "seam" left by an editor. This is so obvious that Raymond Brown has had to...

Alleged Seams in John Part 6: John 14:30-31 "Arise, let us go."

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Alleged Seams in John Part 6: John 14:30-31 "Arise, let us go."

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Today I talk about a passage that is considered a "biggie" among arguments for editorial seams in John: The supposed contradictions created by John 14:30-31. I argue that these contradictions are overblown and that the phrase "arise, let us go" in John 14:31 appears to be the result of vivid witness memory, not a contradictory clue to a bumbling editor. (This is also the position of D.A. Carson.)

Alleged Seams in John Part 5: Mary of Bethany

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Alleged Seams in John Part 5: Mary of Bethany

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Gary Burge uses the parenthetical remark from the narrator about Mary of Bethany in John 11:2 as an example of "seams" or "aporias" in John. He considers it to be a "problem" that this is a forward reference to John 12, the story of Mary anointing Jesus, which hasn't yet been narrated when John refers to her in John 11:2 as "the Mary" who anointed Jesus' feet. How is this even *supposed* to be ...

Alleged seams in John Part 4: Should John 5 come right before John 7?

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Alleged seams in John Part 4: Should John 5 come right before John 7?

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Is there a problem with the chronological order that John indicates for the events in chapters 5, 6, and 7? Here I continue to argue that there is not. Critical scholars have created "problems" where no problem really exists. I discuss several more extremely weak arguments that chapters 5 and 6 are out of order, despite their explicit temporal indicator "after these things," and that there are ...

Alleged Seams in John Part 3: "The other side" of the Sea of Galilee

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Alleged Seams in John Part 3: "The other side" of the Sea of Galilee

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I'm continuing to argue against the claim that John's Gospel has "seams" that show where editors other than the Beloved Disciple have been ham-handedly stitching material together. This week and next week I'll discuss the claim that John 5 and John 6 are in the wrong order. Should we be trying to sort events in Galilee and events in Jerusalem, putting as many as possible of the Galilee events t...

Alleged seams in John part 2: "Into the Judean land"

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Alleged seams in John part 2: "Into the Judean land"

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Today I'm talking about the alleged "seam" in John 3:22, which says that after these things, Jesus and his disciples came/went "into the Judean land." Does this mean that they weren't in Judea before? Is this an internal contradiction, because Jesus was already in Judea, in Jerusalem, in the preceding events? And does it mean that an editor was trying awkwardly to fit stories together in the Go...

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Alleged Seams in the Gospel of John 1

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What are so-called "seams" (or aporia) in the Gospel of John? This week I start a new series on this topic with fresh content that is not even found in my book The Eye of the Beholder. Some scholars use the presence of (allegedly) awkward transitions, (alleged) contradictions, and (allegedly) out-of-order segments to argue for the involvement of editors (even multiple editors) in the compositio...

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Multiple Attestation Tumbling Down

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In this last in the series on why you should care if the Gospel authors put words into Jesus' mouth I warn again about thinking that "multiple attestation" to some type of teaching or some type of event will make up the epistemic deficiencies of the case, if you've already granted that the Gospel authors did this. As discussed in an earlier video on multiple attestation (see link), what we're l...

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Explicitness is Evidential

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Why should it matter if the Gospel authors put their words into Jesus' mouth? The sayings in John 8:58 and 10:30 are, at least on the face of it, especially clear as statements of deity. In _Jesus, Contradicted_, Dr. Licona takes this to be a reason to question their recognizable historicity. He argues that, if Jesus was reluctant (as reported in the Synoptics) to let it be widely known that he...

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Jesus' Historical Teaching = Data

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Why does it matter if Jesus didn't historically, recognizably say something recorded in the Gospels? What if what we find there is just the author's extrapolation or application of Jesus' teaching put into his mouth, based on the author's belief that this is the "higher meaning" of what Jesus really taught, or that this is what Jesus would have said if asked? Even if you're not a Christian (yet...

The apostles' distinction between their interpretations and Jesus' teachings

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The apostles' distinction between their interpretations and Jesus' teachings

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Should you care if the Gospel authors put their own interpretations into the mouth of the historical Jesus? What if the Gospels record things as though said by the historical Jesus when the historical Jesus never recognizably said those things in those contexts? Did the evangelists think that they were licensed to do this because they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, so that their own interpre...

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Can Carson Be Co-opted?

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In recent interviews Dr. Michael Licona has invoked the name of D. A. Carson, giving the strong impression that Carson shared/shares Licona's own views of the Gospel of John views which are surprising and controversial coming from a conservative scholar. These include the idea that John invented the sayings "I thirst" and "It is finished" from the cross and the claim that it is impossible to kn...

Licona's Views on John are shared by all the kool kids?

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Licona's Views on John are shared by all the kool kids?

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In two recent interviews Dr. Michael Licona has attempted to associate a star-studded roster of conservative commentators with his controversial views on the historicity of John's Gospel. At the same time, he implies that those who disagree with him strongly on these matters (which he refers to as "struggling" with and "having difficulty accepting" his views) are simply unaware of things that J...