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from what ive seen once in the morning is pretty common but i just started working at a stable lol

Cleaning after someone uses the pile it in the middle method is the worst. You have my sympathy. If there is any way that you could be the one to clean a particular stall several days in a row using this method then the horse will get tidier and the whole stall will get better within a week or so and you can show them the difference and how much easier it is to have much cleaner stalls. I would also look at possible reasons a horse is being extra messy- stall walking or spinning, ulcers, grumpy neighbors, coping behaviors, boredom, etc- is there something that can be done to help the horse feel more settled in the stall.

@@insightfulequines Thank you so much! 😊

@@insightfulequines I totally understand and completely agree with your theory and can identify key factors that affect the horses I clean for but. . . . . . . . they are boarders, I can't make them come in and spent time with their horses and the most I get to do is lead them to their stall to eat and lead them back to a dry paddock. Then I attempt to clean a stall where the horse has stomped their poo into such small pieces it goes directly through an apple picker. I would need a cat litter tool to get it and when I felt the whole shavings should come out as it was all little poo pieces I was told I was wasting clean litter by the owner and if the fork picks it up then it does and if it doesn't then it doesn't. Do you have advice for these stalls where it is a mix of tiny poo pieces everywhere? in every nook and cranny and throughout all shavings in the stall? I am only the caretaker so again I can't make a boarder come see and do things with their horse anymore than the barn owner can.

What type of mats are thee? Is that saw dust for shavings? How deep do you bed? Thanks inadvance

No we use shavings year round

Yes concrete and floor drains are the way to go. The whole barn gets hosed down a few times a year and comes out looking like new.

I think thats Sani Care

When the horses walk around the stall they spread out , thats a mess

I do the same. As nice as the pellets are.. they get so dusty! I miss having a fluffy bed but it’s almost impossible for me with the amount of urine I take out. Cushings sucks

Thanks for asking, we don't have concrete (you're right in thinking that would be too hard on their legs) we actually use stall skins stall liners. I wrote a post all about them, you can check it out here www.insightfulequine.com/stall-skins-geotextile-liners-review/

That's not a good idea

Did you click on a stall cleaning video just so you could say all of that.

Mr logik : the answer is NO. Everywhere I looked, hillbillies are looking for some other hillbillies to clean stalls, they make it sound like if it was rocket science. I was curious about it because the horses I have experience with were happy outdoor horses, I never dealt with stalls and propably I never will (I feel too much). So, I stand by my statements above. Next time you are cleaning stalls at a horse show, give some of those attention-seekers pretentions dudes and dudesses all dressed up FOR SHOW, a slap on my behalf. Thanks.

@@aminabdullah350 I just work at a horse barn and we raise racehorses, we dont really do anything for show

Mr logik Ok, I'll try to find somebody else to slap those attention-seekers misusing horses. I am going to share some info below, regarding race horses.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Amin and for advocating for animals, I appreciate your concern. There are a number of reasons for stalling horses, for example, when healing certain types of injuries veterinarians recommend the horse be stalled for the best shot at making a full recovery to go on living a pain-free life. Our horses are turned out with their friends to socialize, graze, and roam the hills all day and then come in at night. At the end of the day, they are all waiting at the gate ready to come in. I have experimented with having my horses living out in a herd 24/7 vs being stalled at night and found that they are happier and less stressed with stalls. This is not a convenient option as it creates more work cleaning and is more expensive but their wellbeing is worth it. I understand that not every horse likes being stalled and some horses probably spend more time in stalls than they would like to but that's not always the case. It's important to recognize that there are circumstances in which some horses do prefer to be in stalls where they can rest, take a break from the bugs, and find relief from the elements.

$10 a trailer full! That's a smokin deal on shavings- gotta keep my eye out for a connection like that ;-) Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts.

Thats why we use rice chaff so they dont get breathing problems

@@insightfulequines The issue is most people who do this are stables or larger places as the bedding needs to be kept in a dry cool place where humidity and wetness wont make it go bad. I know the barn I work for keeps it in a section of their barn and also buys by the trunkful so when I get new bedding I get an entire clean mucking wheelbarrow (muck wheelbarrow only used for shavings and not mucking) worth of shavings to fill in the stalls where I have had to take out significant amounts of shavings like the wet spot(s) of doom. Many sawmills do this BUT I want to give you the heads up that not all shavings are created equal. Pine is good but Walnut and some other fancy woods are BAD for horses and the oils can make them itch and have issues. So always be sure to ask what type of wood shavings and sawdust you are getting as 2% Walnut and 98% pine is ok, but over 10% walnut or 20% is a sure pass.

Same we get a trailer load of it two

Probably thick rubber mats, Iane. They seem to have worked it up against the wall so the moisture can't get underneath it.