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I think you have some good points and personal details in this. i will say, some points you made felt like they would hold more weight irl and not in nirn. if you could give me some examples of talos punishing nords in the afterlife, i'd be interested in more lore about that. i'm having trouble finding any on that and i think that would have backed up your point. i did see that shor is the god that rewards nords with sovngarde, not talos. this a completely different religious system with different gods who are not doubted to exist. they function differently than many of the current major religions gods are believed to irl. what i'm trying to say is, it's not about one god rewarding or punishing in nirn. and from what i've gathered about elder scrolls, seems like morality isn't even a gigantic factor when it comes to the sovngarde for the nords unless there was some daedric pact. even if they were a hero in their last moment, they could be soul trapped and end up in soul cairn instead. i'm not an expert about this lore but i find it interesting. and thanks for your different perspective on things

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The empire is never going to fight back, They can't even protect cyrodil. Bravil has been razed and corruption is rampant. Skyrim needs to free itself from the parasitic empire before its too late

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The one that always annoys me is how people act like Ulfric Skyrim is just inherently doomed to the Thalmor. Its not. Skyrim is on the opposite side of the continent to the Thalmor and the Thalmor are incompetent at occupying territory due to their extreme racism. And an alliance with Hammerfall or even with the Empire against the Thalmor is perfectly possible

There's no proof that Skyrim will fail if they secede from the empire. Hammerfell won and the empire is already done, it's dead, gone, they are too weak.

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Maxson you are applying ideas to the game which fit your real religion, when those ideas are not appropriate to the religion in the game. For example, Talos does not punish people in the afterlife for what they do while alive. Your comment that the people of Skyrim cannot afford to displease Talos is nonsense, Talos doesn't keep track of "sin" like the Christian, Jewish or Muslim God does. In Skyrim, it is Shor who rewards Nords with Soverngarde if they die in battle honorably. Talos has nothing to do with it. Your analysis and logic is filled with similar mistakes because you assume the game's religion is similar to yours. It isn't.

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As an athiest, it would like forcing me to believe something that I don't.

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The Empire is busy spreading its buttcheeks to their Thalmor masters. Skyrim belongs to the Nords.

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Is there any need to invade Whiterun, from a religious standpoint? They can freely practice worshipping Talos

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When it comes to this type of debate one has to realize that both sides can be right in their own way. The issue here tho is that the two cultures that being the empire and skyrim are completely different on how they do things. One one hand it is a sound strategy for the empire to bide its time with the thalmor until their strength is recovered enough to face the thalmor in another battle. If not for the treaty another chance would not happen. That said the stormcloaks are not wrong either as they are in fact a victim of circumstance when it comes to the empire's decision. This was never discussed with anyone in skyrim whether or not the condition of not worshiping talos was acceptable and the empire just expected the citizens of skyrim to just go with it with no explanation. One could see this as them not understanding the value talos has to the skyrim people as shown in many conversations you can hear from imperial soldiers as well as general Tallius himself as he states he does not understand the ways of the stormcloaks because to him the rebels are fighting not for religious freedom but for some other unjust cause to imped on their efforts. In the end it is a failure to communicate and understand one another as the empire expects skyrim to fall in line with one of those trust me bro moments meanwhile the stormcloaks are blinded by beliefs to look at a bigger picture.

I notice a lot of Civil War videos couch the argument in a "pragmatism/practicality vs virtue/spiritualism/honor" way... but this is completely dishonest. There is no pragmatism in immediately accepting outrageous peace terms when your enemy is almost as badly cripple by war as you are. There is no practicality in disbanding your own intelligence agency and allowing your enemy free access to your territories and aristocracy to mingle, rub shoulders, and do clandestine activity without reprisal. There is no practicality in destroying and spitting on the founding ideals, religion, and figurehead of your civilization to appease your enemy and alienate your own people. There will be no second Great War, the Empire will never fight the Dominion of it's own free will ever again. It's been 26 years, there are no indications (beyond bs spouted by Tullius) the Empire will truly fight the Dominion. Troops at the borders is an irrelevant placation when Thalmor agents have free access to Imperial territories and people. There are Thalmor agents rubbing shoulders with Imperial aristocracy. The Thalmor are allowed to move through the Empire unsupervised, do you have any idea how fucking insane that is? Even if the Empire was prepared to fight another great war (it's been 26 years already btw), the veterans from before are getting old, while the elven vets are still in prime condition. A more unified, less demoralized, more righteous Empire already lost once, now we have a more fractured, more demoralized, more dishonest Empire, that's been infested by unsupervised Thalmor sabatoge and infiltration for decades. It'll be a fucking cakewalk, not to mention the Dominion has other races who can replenish their numbers just as easily as humans. An independent Skyim, and independent Hammerfell, allied with a smaller Empire and possibly even Black Marsh in a triple or quadruple military alliance stands a much better chance of winning.

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As Muslim man I agree were told in the Quran and Hadiths many stories of people who went out of their way (besides prophets) to suffer immense torture and pain just for the afterlife because we are taught this life is like a short day but heaven and hell are literally infinite and forever

Great video, here are some arguments against the Empire from a more logistical point of veiw: 1: The Empire has failed in its duty to protect the safety of its citizens. Nords are taken by a foreign power, imprisoned, tortured, and executed. That foreign power can only operate in Skyrim freely where the Empire has control, and where it provides some degree of protection for their activities. 2: The Empire has failed to provide religious freedom, and while it doesn't clamp down as hard as the Thalmor does, it is complicit in the Thalmor doing so. 3: The Empire has turned to increasingly tyrannical means to keep control. For this I cite the torture chamber in Helgen and the executions the Imperials carry out, both in Solitude and the hideously indiscriminate executions at the start of the game. The Stormcloaks have far too much popular support. They are not brigands. They are the citizens of Skyrim, and it is those citizens the Imperial Legion is waging a war against. Because of these first few point, the Empire has lost the legitimacy of rule. When systems of rule persecute their subjects and maintain control through tyrannical means, they need to be removed. Then there are the rest of my points: 4: The Empire conceded the WGC too easily. Whatever losses the Empire took, and they were severe, those losses were more than matched on the Thalmor side. The Thalmor presented itself as strong, but the Redguards of Hammerfell showed how much strength the Thalmor had lost, fending them off while isolated and alone. The Empire merely lost the will to fight. 5: Thanks to signing the peace-treaty, which was much nearer to a surrender, the Empire has now been infiltrated and is being sabotaged from within. The Thalmor have show to be far too good at espionage, and have far too much freedom of movement for the Empire to act without their knowledge. They have bypassed the Empire and are forming relationships with Skyrim's political players directly, as the party at the embassy shows, and have spies everywhere in Skyrim, as the events of the main questline demonstrate very clearly. The Empire is compromised. 6: The Empire has alienated Hammerfell by betraying them, but Hammerfell would likely ally with an independent Skyrim. The last thing the Dominion wants is an independent Skyrim joining forces with an independent Hammerfell. What would likely happen, is an alliance forming between the two, with Cyrodiil having little choice but to support them, or be left isolated against the Dominion. The Thalmor strategy relies on pitting their enemy against itself to weaken it, and they've been tremendously successful at that. When that strategy unravels, and their enemies unite, the Dominion is in serious trouble. That cannot happen with the Empire in control.

honestly i dont think Empire gives a shit about anything else than power and control...... otherwise they wouldnt send shitloads of their men to die and those man could be used in a war against Thalmor, also 30 years should be more than enough to replenish ranks they lost in last war.... Empire, Skyrim and Hammerfell could easily have military alliance against Thalmor

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Another point missed is that the aldmeri dominion doesn't want the stormcloaks to WIN, they want the war to continue to weaken both the empire and skyrim, either side winning would be bad for them

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If Stormcloaks where to ally themselves with the Empire, they wouldn't rebel. Now the soldiers have to hold grudges after their friends and brothers in arms were killed during combat in front of them. It makes no sense unless you believe that Talos is now the god of forgiveness and turning the other cheek,which he is not.

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