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Peterson, among other things, is derived by rage and anger. As a populist, he is harnessing anger/rage of a lot of people and orienting it (search Angrynomics). His angry acolytes are less likely to reason in an unbiased logical manner. As a result no point in turning on the comments. Thanks tho

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No fake I live my life between chaos and entropy". LOL

Exactly.

Got it backwards An unlived life is not worth examining

Obviously, I can't talk on Phillips' behalf. But I have read a few of his books and kinda familiar with some of his thoughts. Based on my understanding and experience, Phillips is not a fan of *final messages*. He takes you to a journey in his essays. He makes you feel something (ideally new). It is as if he tries to provoke the readers to wonder about new ideas, possibilities and experiences... Hope this makes sense.

14:00 learn to bare frustration better

i agree with @faiz shah. I think he is suggesting that we are less phobic about frustration - rather than trying to get rid of it as quickly as possible we should try to find ways of putting up with it or even seeing if we can use frustration positively. Otherwise we try to try our frustration into pleasure either by enjoying our own suffering or by trying to enjoy making others suffer.

From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20,000_Days_on_Earth

The poem part was removed from the video by NY library because of its content. Adam Phillips used this poem in Missing Out in a chapter named 'Getting out of it'. Here's the poem: This Be The Verse BY PHILIP LARKIN They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself.

@@arminrrr Thanks!

aminr they are citing Merwin, not Larkin, though the Larkin isn’t inappropriate here. Does anyone know which Merwin they presented?

@@hairyfrank My bad. However, in Missing Out, almost a whole chapter is about the mentioned Larkin's poem. Based on the book and the context of the conversation, I thought they must be talking about Larkin. I also couldn't find any reference to Merwin in the book.

This is the poem they're discussing: Native Trees BY W. S. MERWIN Neither my father nor my mother knew the names of the trees where I was born what is that I asked and my father and mother did not hear they did not look where I pointed surfaces of furniture held the attention of their fingers and across the room they could watch walls they had forgotten where there were no questions no voices and no shade Were there trees where they were children where I had not been I asked were there trees in those places where my father and my mother were born and in that time did my father and my mother see them and when they said yes it meant they did not remember What were they I asked what were they but both my father and my mother said they never knew

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john miller taking this out of metaphor what you’re basically saying is that life without a point is not worth living. But to me that is only a half thought. If purpose is a fairytale one is no more obliged toward suicide than living. You can’t accuse those who choose either futility of being any more or less heroic than the other. Although I gotta say having chosen the futility of life, I have found it a remarkably easy path to follow. Human instinct just isn’t designed to worry about matters on such a nebulous scale.

@john miller: Very interesting point. What if you think about the fact that it was not possible for Sisyphus to live on Earth, and that pushing the rock was his new condition, one he couldn't change. The way existence in Earth was described in the passage, sounds very much like Heaven. Peacefully staring at the sea, on a bay for years and years. It seems unrealistic, in the most part. It is the daily pushing of the rock, an activity that is pointless in the most part, that the protagonist must do, and is similar to what most people have to do, to different extents. For this reason I don't think its worth considering the fact that Sisyphus would rather stay on Earth, or we would rather be in Heaven. You are in reality, your own form of reality, and you must deal with it, by escaping (what you say is heroic) or by giving full attention to each little task you do, loving and maybe also hating.