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FIre away! There was neither "great work: nor "effort" expended in making this video. I've never done anything perfectly - there's always room for improvement.

Anything that you do requires effort...no matterhow big or small

Me too, though my first encounter with this type of lift was Ken Krenzel's Drag Double Lift from Lorayne's The Card Classics of Ken Krenzel, I later saw the Dingle lift in the Kaufman book and frankly, I could do neither version. I think the main difference between Dingle and Krenzel on the one hand and this version on the other is the technique of turning the deck away from the pivoting card which has the double benefit of facilitating the turnover of the pivoting double with the left thumb and getting those damned left fingers out of the way. For years I tried lifting the pivoting cords over the fingers until the ah ha moment when I figured out that it works better to get the deck out of the way the card than to get the card out of the way of the deck. If this video has anything to offer, that's it, as I see it.

@@profrt nice

When you say "overused," you raise a red flag for me. Sure, a LOT of magic depends on imperceptibly switching cards and there are MANY methods used, depending on the circumstances. The audience should be totally unaware of the techniques involved and the value of the trick as entertainment shouldn't depend on method. Sure, an audience of magicians might roll their eyes with a condescending "oh that old thing" but for the lay audience, the choice of double lift versus some novel sleight is not only a non-issue, it's absolutely non-existent. You do remind me of the first time I did a trick for magicians using Lorayne's Ultra-Move. They couldn't have been less interested in the trick - a good one I thought - but they INSISTED I teach them the then-novel technique. By the way, the point of a striike double lift is to avoid the thumb count as well as getting a break. I like this lift because there's a logical reason, given the display position of the face-up double, to turn the card face down on the deck before dealing it off. For most double lifts, turning the card face down before dealing it is an awkward necessity, not a logical continuation of the handling.

@@profrt Oh I totally get your perspective, and was not trying to start an argument! All I can say in response is that yes, we shouldn't lose the lay perspective on our work. Moves that make fellow practitioners yawn, are still powerful to our target audience. That said, my go-to tabled force - which involves slowly thumbing off cards with one hand into a messy tabled spread until I'm told "that one!" - is actually bottom dealing into a double lift (!) under cover of the larger movement of holding up the card, then using one hand to thumb it off onto the table, before genuinely losing the indifferent card in the deck. I was at a magic conference in Warwickshire, and totally floored another magician with this simultaneous force and top control. I personally enjoy methods that baffle even other magicians, and that's an artistic choice, not a requirement. Using the Curry turnover switch/change as a force is also a favourite. With the spread packet in the dominant hand as shade for getting the fingers in place, it's invisible.

Yep, there it is on pages 32-33 as published in 1958, almost exactly as Cyp taught it too me. I would have NEVER noticed this, buried as it is in what amounts to a pamphlet! Thanks for the reference!

​@@profrt My pleasure!

Turner is the holy grail. He can do things I cannot. That is one of t hem.

I don't think a knuckle flash is a problem. As I use this deal, there's NO attention on the hand holding the deck at the moment of prep. Besides, if necessary, the flash can usually be hidden. And I'll trade the security of the buckled card over the increased risk of dealing a card flush with the bottom every time! I try not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, or good enough anyway. I DO worry about the finger flash, but not as much as I used to. At the time of the flash, the hand is in motion and for part of the time the card being dealt covers the flash. And besides, the deck itself is in motion, so - although i don't claim to be able to see magic through a layman's eyes - I'm supposing that the larger motion of the deck moving laterally hides the brief, small motion of the fingers.

there are ways to avoid knuckle flash using a push BD. Even with exposed angles

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Why do a LOT of bottom deals when you can do just one? What do you see as the advantage? If you want the spectator to turn over the chosen card, OK. But wouldn't second deals be more efficient and require less movement?

@@profrt because second deals are very hard for me. And pretty useless since I can bottom deal effectively without a lot of movement. I've spent hundreds of hours making my normal deal look identical to my bottom deal and Greek deal. It's so I can have them take the card off the top that they stopped at.

Thanks, but the Elmsley isn't up to snuff, I notice! BTW, you DID notice there's only one double, I assume?

@@profrt I thought right at the beginning when you changed KH for one of the cards in the Royal Flush. But I thought the clever bit was the the addition and removal of the Aces. I don't think the Elmsley really mattered. However it is done those false counts always look as though there is something happening to me. Maybe, I've seen too many. I think someone watching the routine just once would not be bothered by it.

If I can do it, you can!

Yes it is! I learned if from Close Up Card Magic in the 1960's and posted it here, not because it's my move, but because Lorayne's description, and Giobbi's as well, does not point out the reaching of the thumb to the far edge of the card switched out and the consequent waiting for the card to be in the thumb crotch before pushing out the switched-in card. I make no claims for even pseudo-originality beyond pointing out those fine points.

​@@profrt and its so hard to do, i can't push the card from the deck and put it on the table

@@magicianlovemagic1720 I remember when I was learning it I had the same problem. It's MUCH easier if you make SURE that the edge of the card you are switching out is securely in the thumb crotch before you even begin to push out the card being switched in. That way the cards don't get in each other's way. Good luck with this! It is a VERY useful move! I made this video almost a decade ago and I'm a little embarrassed by it. I now do the move with a much lighter touch. But that comes with YEARS of practice and performance!

Thanks! I can only hope you find something useful here.

@@profrt will you be posting videos often because I see you just came back from an 8 year hiatus😂 from what I’ve seen your videos are great and I’m looking forward to more of them

@@clintn.kildepstein1656 VERY nice of you to say. Posting is not something I’m inclined to do unless I see a need, real or imagined. I first posted the Curry Turnover video because the ones I had seen on line were either not good or not the actual Curry change. I hope that each of the videos I do post features new info or at least details that you can’t find elsewhere.

Thank you!

Thanks for the kind words! Nice to know this helps! The Curry Change is a much underutilized move. When I posted this 8 (!) years ago, I was exploring LOTS of effects using the move.While I've come to favor a fairly broad repertoire of in-the-hands switches and swindles as being useful in more performing environments, I STILL resort to the Curry Change when seated with a close-up pad in front of me. I think of it as a utility move that belongs in EVERY magician's repertoire. Great for jamming, BTW!

Dream on...even Armando Lucero's Scoop Turnover Change is available online. Thank God for Chinese magic websites!!!

@@petitmagicien2622 Its a poor means of garnering attention; due to the immaturity of the performance.

@@MikeyJDavis You make no sense. Ali Express is my friend! ;)

@@petitmagicien2622 you don't understand.

@@MikeyJDavis I understand that you make little sense with your silly statement that "Magic should remain in books." Come on...this is 2021...Get with the program, old fart!

The way Lorayne teaches it seems wrong to me. Look at pictures 99-101 on pages 217-218. His thumb does NOT reach across the card! It is IMPOSSIBLE to get into the position shown in pic 102 as shown. The switched out card should pivot on the same long axis as the switched in card. The thumb reaching all the way across the card makes this a piece of cake. The way Lorayne teaches the move, the switched-in card would appear in a position behind (more towards you) than the switched-out card. BTW, I learned the move from Lorayne as well! He was an early mentor (a couple of my things are in Apocalypse), but he wasn't perfect!