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I live in Victoria, Australia, we have some pretty fun waves! Where are you from?

Thanks!

Going down in size on your board can be a challenge, its going to be harder to paddle and therefore harder to catch waves, its also going to be more sensitive to turn so a bit harder to pop up. Its worth it though, surfing smaller boards is alot of fun. I would say if you are finding surfing you 8’ board easy, easy to paddle out, catch waves, pop up, ride and trim down the line then its a good time to step down. However stepping down from an 8’0 minimal to a 6’0 fish is a big leap. So id recommend stepping down about a foot to a 7’0 first. There are mid length fishes which are 7’ long like the Seaside and Beyond. This would be a great option!

​@@AddisonRowland Thanks for your brief explanation.

@@AddisonRowland If I'm really solid on a 7' do you think I can jump down to a properly sized Seaside? Or do I need another incremental step down to 6'?

Its so hard to know without knowing you, but id say if ure on a 7’ something in the 45L range dropping down 10L in volume puts you at 35L which is a 5’8 seaside. You should be fine after an adjustment period of getting used to catching waves with less volume and paddle power. If your 7’ is 50L + Its tough to say, probably fine if you surf multiple times a week, you will adjust but it might be rough. A “properly sized” seaside? Rob is 68kg and rides a 5’2 When you say properly sized what do you mean? Haha its like how long is a piece of string. It depends on ure skill level, fitness, what waves you intend to surf and bodyweight. Super interesting to hear about the current model or board you a riding? How heavy you are? How many times a week you surf? And what size waves you intend to surf on your seaside?

Id go swallow tail, I think the pin tail is better as a step up for proper big waves as it draws out your turns a bit, swallows better for most waves bit tighter turns and gives a bit more planning speed in the smaller stuff as it has wider dims. As for 6’0 or 5’11 its really difficult to say without knowing your surfing and dims intimately haha, if your normal volume it 36L say id go up a couple litres for the twins-man. So mby the 6’0 but if ure normal vol is 32L then 5’11? Idk to be honest it wouldn’t feel much different between the 5’11 and 6’0 its only 1 inch and a few litres vol, they would both go great!

These waves were pretty chill, thanks!

Which ones? Going to do a pre big review video for it soon…

@@AddisonRowland you know, the format you did with Twinsman or Townsend. Surf + talk.

Yeah Ill definitely do a review soon, still figuring out the board tbh, definitely the most high performance board I have surfed since coming back to surfing after my wrist injury last year

Goes great, hollow and fat waves, has enough rocker and that pin tail gives plenty of hold

@@AddisonRowland Awesome, thank you! I appreciate your board reviews. You helped me decided on my ML Glider and now I think I'm going to pull the pin on a Sunday. Keep it up! 🤙🏽

Victoria Aus

Super keen, gonna be a fun project!

This comment is priceless for me haha thanks so much man I appreciate the comment! What is your favourite board at the moment?

@ right now I’m running a 6’8 seaside and beyond. But I’ve got a 6’3 dhd black diamond that might have its first go this weekend. Mate I’m trying to get my level to around where you are so I can start using smaller boards and doing more turns. Would love a twinsman, but I’ve seen a few at the pool and I’m not at that fitness/skill level just yet.

If the waves aren’t pushing chest high and they’re kinda fat Im very happy to get off the shortboard haha

Loved it, will probably do a review in the near future

Double island point Queensland

175cm 75kg

@ thx, am 170 and 65 kg. There’s a used one near me that’s 7’2. Do you think it’s meant to be used on the shorter side or the longer board could also work?

Also someone suggested slightly bigger fins than the albums recommendation. Any take on that?

I think a larger one would definitely still work, would suit smaller waves probably

I really like the small asher pacey album uprights

On and off for many years and then basically every week for 18months now, if you go way back to the beginning of 2023 on my UA-cam u can find videos of me surfing quite bad relative to now haha

@@AddisonRowland I like your POV videos. I am started surfing last year in my county Sri Lnaka. I also like to do POV videos. Still trying.😁

Unfortunately in my opinion with Flynns if you aren’t taking off on the peak or a boil you most of the time end up taking off on a closing section which is really difficult. Id say go when its small, stand on the shallow part of the reef so you know where it is when the set comes and paddle into it watching the wave and if u miss it see where it broke and be there for the next one. Check out my latest reel Its me surfing a tiny wave there and its all about positioning. Also can you edit ure comment to get rid of the name f****s?

Sounds like you referring to the snaps off the lip? Honestly i kinda only just started figuring those out on my forehand I think about driving up into a breaking section and unweighting leaning back down the wave a bit and trying to twist kicking the back leg upwards. Its a weird movement to describe haha

I think I need to start surfing the more advanced settings haha

Glad you enjoyed it!

I love these videos though

Haha, I guess they might be over done but I still enjoy making them so 🤷‍♂️

175cm 78kg

Hey, i like it quite a bit, pros: Light, no deck compressions, lively feel due to lightness and flex Cons: can get water logged quicker if dinged so definitely get it repaired as soon as possible if u damage it, and it yellows in the sun. It’s really cool to feel something different and i think it definitely suits small waves as it feels like u can pack a bunch of volume but doesn’t feel heavy

So basically, you will still grab a PU board if the swell ramps up and you don't care about the fragile nature of this tried-and-tested technology. Have you tried a Firewire shape with more rail length in some more serious conditions?

Theres an idea that helium boards don’t do well in windy/choppy conditions, I guess If go for a PU if it was choppy. I have a 7’0 Sunday that I have ridden in 3-4+ surf but I guess it depends on what you consider serious? I haven’t really been out in seriously serious conditions yet id say 🤣

@AddisonRowland Well, I heard that saying but can't confirm whether it's true or just talk. It might be an odd question, but is your 4-foot wave measurement the wave's face or from the back? I do take out a simple Torq Midlength in more challenging conditions because I don't have to worry about the board getting hit by someone else in the lineup, and I feel they just seem to come alive when the waves have some power. They are perhaps the mother of all epoxy boards, stiff and maybe somewhat heavy. No complaints. I would grab it, actually, anytime. The moment I feel a little bit skippy on more powerful waves is when I'm out on a to smal to much of a groovler board. Think shape might be more important than the actual build 🤷‍♂️

I measure from the back, i think its kind of silly but it what I’m used to so I’m sticking with it for now, so 3-4+ is probably 6-8ft face. And yeah I agree the shape is definitely a bigger factor than the construction

Definitely keen to try one at some point!

I have not, will hopefully get to it one day! Thanks for your comment!

I prefer the seaside, the plasmic I had was 40L very wide and had a diamond tail, very skatey hard to tip over on rail, I think if I sized the plasmic down and had it with a swallow I might have kept it. But I didn’t like how it felt. I also think if you want to ride a fish and ure not already an advanced surfer a quad fish is going to be more user friendly and give you more control and confidence to push turns than a twin. Thats an broad opinion that leaves out alot of nuance, but in general i think thats true.

Im not psyched on the outside but don’t worry ive been psyching like crazy on the inside after some of my recent sessions on this board 🤣

Local spots around Melbourne Australia, awesome to hear, didn’t really know Denmark had a surf scene! Thanks for the comment

78kg 175cm

@ And you. Are on a 5 8 seaside ? Its your normal choice?

Yeah for me 5’7 or 5’8 is kind of perfect for what waves I want to surf it in

Yeah definitely better options out there is its a solid hollow wave but fuck me its so good at making the weaker stuff feel fun!

I can imagine those bigger sizes would grovel insane

Ill have to try one one day haha, I feel like every surfboard review people save it goes 1-6ft but the guy saying it is usually a pro, perhaps if ure as good as rob the seaside does grovel fantastic but Im not 🤣

@@gian.cirone they are mega expensive, one of my mates has had like 4 warranty replacements or something because the lamination goes pink after time. They are a sick board though. Could get a new board for that locally made

@@mattobrien1085 I wanted to replicate the shape on a custom made but never head someone doing it.

Expensive compared to what? They are 1200 new? Whats a reasonable price for a new board? Got mine second hand for 600, have seen one recently for 650, I think considering the crazy construction that doesn’t have deck compressions and is light af it makes sense they are a bit pricier than ure stock standard PU shortboard but I don’t feel like they are unreasonably priced compared to other options in the market.

The fact is was Shaped by Rob is also kind of insane, how many people have hung around with Kelly in the competition, shape and sell boards anyone in the world can pick up and try?

@@AddisonRowland 1200 will get you a custom from a local crew like oke or trigger. Rob didn't personally shape every seaside, he designed the first one and they all get machine shaped and vacuum form laminated in China/thailand. I personally think new boards sub 7'0 should cap out at 1000 unless they have crazy custom sprays or lam tints or full hand shapes but mass produced boards like FireWire should be cheaper. About $250-350 of materials go into a sub 7'0 board for me to make and I'm not buying in massive bulk quantities I buy locally made foam blanks from Rosebud and resin that's made in dandenong. Not hating on the seaside at all one of my best mates surfs one and loves it and its definitely cool being able to surf the same board as your favorite pro! Nothing wrong with compressions on a surfboard, pu is vastly superior to eps in my opinion because it doesn't get waterlogged and is much nicer to shape and glass and way easier ding repairs

I am based in Melbourne Australia and most of my surfing is in Victoria, mostly the Mornington Peninsula and Phillip Island, we are very lucky and have many beautiful spots around

How much do you weigh? What were you surfing before u got the seaside? Must be better than me at surfing small waves haha

I'm not talking about the seaside it's another board from a small shaper in Queensland SEA studios . I usually shape my own boards but this thing rips small waves. I'm 180cm and 100kg. My usual go to boards are a 6'3 fish or a 7'6 twin that I shaped

Progressive turns

@@AddisonRowland what day

Ay nice! Be great to see you again I might try organise another session in a couple of weeks!

@@AddisonRowland cool man keep up the content

Thanks haha, hopefully see you again next time! Paddle fitness in the pool is intense, going to head back in a couple weeks I think