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LoveCast The BL Podcast
Приєднався 16 лис 2020
Welcome to LoveCast the BL Podcast: an LGBTQIA+ led and centered show that puts the 'love' in Boys' Love!
We're coming to you biweekly with interviews, discussions about fandom & the industry, series reviews and so much more. So sit back, relax and join in as we dive deep into our favorite genre - Boys’ Love.
The team:
Pixie - 30s, Norwegian, she/her 🏳️🌈
Alexa - 20s, American, she/her 🏳️🌈
Kayla - 20s, Filipino/American, she/they 🏳️🌈
Heather - 30s, Australian, she/her 🏳️🌈
For questions or collaboration inquiries, please see the email address listed below.
We're coming to you biweekly with interviews, discussions about fandom & the industry, series reviews and so much more. So sit back, relax and join in as we dive deep into our favorite genre - Boys’ Love.
The team:
Pixie - 30s, Norwegian, she/her 🏳️🌈
Alexa - 20s, American, she/her 🏳️🌈
Kayla - 20s, Filipino/American, she/they 🏳️🌈
Heather - 30s, Australian, she/her 🏳️🌈
For questions or collaboration inquiries, please see the email address listed below.
BL Ships That Only Sailed for a Season | S4E18
BL ships comes and go - that's just the way the industry is set up. But it’s always sad when you come across a pairing you really enjoy together... only for them to go their separate ways soon after their series ends. Join us this week as we talk about some Thai BL ships we loved that sadly only sailed for a short season 😢
Be sure to share ships you enjoyed that fall into this category as well~
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Editor: Alexa
#thaibl #boyslove #blship #blseries #thaiblseries
Be sure to share ships you enjoyed that fall into this category as well~
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Come chat with us!
X: lovecastpodcast
Instagram: lovecastpodcast
Facebook: lovecastpod/
TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@lovecastpodcast
Discord: discord.gg/T3DUgSZeYB
If you like our content, we'd love your support!
LoveCast Shop: bit.ly/LoveCastMerch
Patreon: www.patreon.com/lovecast
Ko-Fi: ko-fi.com/lovecast
Editor: Alexa
#thaibl #boyslove #blship #blseries #thaiblseries
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Thai BL Actors Dating & The Fan Reactions | S4E17
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This week, we're taking a look at some different relationship reveals that have come from actors in the Thai BL space over the years. We talk about how the fans reacted in each situation, why the reactions can vary so drastically and discuss why fans often feel entitled to know about or comment on the private lives of their fave actors. What are your thoughts on this discussion? Be sure to shar...
Unknown | 關於未知的我們 || Taiwanese BL Review
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The long-awaited review is here! Pixie and Alexa sit down to share their thoughts about the extremely popular 2024 Taiwanese BL, Unknown, starring Chris Chiu and Kurt Huang. Let us know in the comments below your thoughts on this series & what rating you would give it out of 5 💖 ~ Come chat with us! X: lovecastpodcast Instagram: lovecastpodcast Facebook: l...
Only Boo | แค่ที่แกง || Thai BL Review
Kayla, Pixie and Alexa are diving into all things Only Boo in this month's review of the super sweet GMMTV youth romcom! We felt ALL the feels watching Kang & Moo's love story~ Let us know in the comments below your thoughts on this series & what rating you would give it out of 5 💖 ~ Come chat with us! X: lovecastpodcast Instagram: lovecastpodcast Facebook: facebook.co...
Ranking Thai BL Characters as Red, Beige & Green Flags || S4E16
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We're ranking our red, beige and green Thai BL characters in this week's episode! Who's the reddest of red flags you love to hate? What makes a certain character a green flag? Come along as we discuss (and argue) our way from characters we wouldn't ever want to come across in real life to the sweetest of green flag characters who we want to protect. ~ Come chat with us! X: lovecastp...
[ENG SUB] Poppy Talks Cutie Pie, MC'ing & Perfect Comedic Timing || Thai BL || English Interview
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While in Thailand, Kayla had the opportunity to sit down with everyone's favorite comedy icon, Poppy Ratchapong, for his FIRST EVER interview. From pranks on the Cutie Pie set to how he'd survive a zombie apocalypse to life goals for the next 10 years and more - they covered it all this super fun chat! We hope you enjoy it as much as we did~ Follow Poppy on his socials! Instagram: instagram.com...
Chatting Bangkok Pride, MewTul & More || S4E15
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It's time for a little catch up chat with the team again! Kayla talks about their recent trip to Thailand where they went to Bangkok Pride, got invited to the Sunset x Vibes press con and had the incredible opportunity to interview everyone's favorite comedy actor, Poppy Ratchapong! We also talk a bit about the impact of MewTul revealing their relationship and how excited we are for them~ What ...
Dear Uranus | 親愛的天王星 || Taiwanese GL Review
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This month we're reviewing the short UA-cam GL, Dear Uranus. Written and produced by the popular online Taiwanese sapphic couple, Rabbit and Wolf, and directed by Tsai Mi Chieh (the same director as About Youth and a bunch of HIStory's), this short but sweet series is a must-watch! Let us know in the comments below your thoughts on this series & what rating you would give it out of 5 💖 ~ Come c...
[ENG SUB] Exploring A Cat Cafe w/ Benjamin Brasier || Thai BL || English Interview
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Come along with us & Ben Brasier as we explore ASOK Pethouse Cat Cafe & discuss his upcoming projects for 2024. #BBenxLoveCast Ben Brasier IG: benjaminbrasier X: x.com/benjaminbrasier ASOK Pethouse Cat Cafe Website: www.asokpethouse.com/ IG: asokpethouse FB: AsokPethouse *video recorded November 2023 ~ CLOSED ✨SIGNED POLAROID GIVEAWAY DETAILS✨ To enter...
Dabit Talks Music, His Man 2 and His Journey Into BL || S4E14
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Dabit joins us this week for a super fun discussion around working as a singer-songwriter, joining His Man 2 fresh out of a break-up and what it's been like to integrate into the BL fandom over the past year. What started as an interview ended up turning into us just having a great time chatting BL faves - we hope you enjoy it as much as we did! Be sure to follow Dabit on his socials: X: x.com/...
[ENG SUB] WinnySatang From We Are | คือเรารักกัน || Thai BL Series || English Interview
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[ENG SUB] WinnySatang From We Are | คือเรารักกัน || Thai BL Series || English Interview
Rainbow Representation for Pride with @TopherReacts || S4E13
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Rainbow Representation for Pride with @TopherReacts || S4E13
23.5 Is The GL Romcom We Needed || S4E12
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23.5 Is The GL Romcom We Needed || S4E12
History 3: Trapped | HIStory3 - 圈套 || Taiwanese BL Review
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History 3: Trapped | HIStory3 - 圈套 || Taiwanese BL Review
Mental Health in BL with @Psynergic || S4E11
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Mental Health in BL with @Psynergic || S4E11
[ENG SUB] SeaKeen from Only Boo! | แค่ที่แกง || Thai BL Series || English Interview
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[ENG SUB] SeaKeen from Only Boo! | แค่ที่แกง || Thai BL Series || English Interview
BL Fanfic Roundtable with Fanfic Writers || S4E10
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BL Fanfic Roundtable with Fanfic Writers || S4E10
Kiseki: Dear to Me | 奇蹟 | Taiwanese BL Review
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Kiseki: Dear to Me | 奇蹟 | Taiwanese BL Review
Traditional Thai Dessert Cafe in NYC || LoveCast Vlog
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Traditional Thai Dessert Cafe in NYC || LoveCast Vlog
[ENG SUB] Junior, Fluke, Franky & Baan from To Be Continued | คุณได้ไปต่อ || English Interview
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[ENG SUB] Junior, Fluke, Franky & Baan from To Be Continued | คุณได้ไปต่อ || English Interview
We Went On an NYC Date with First Chalongrat || LoveCast Vlog
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We Went On an NYC Date with First Chalongrat || LoveCast Vlog
First’s NYC Fanmeet, What We’re Watching & More || S4E8
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First’s NYC Fanmeet, What We’re Watching & More || S4E8
[ENG/ESP SUB] MilkLove from 23.5 | องศาที่โลกเอียง || Thai GL Series || English Interview
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[ENG/ESP SUB] MilkLove from 23.5 | องศาที่โลกเอียง || Thai GL Series || English Interview
Saying Goodbye To Young Royals || S4E7
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Saying Goodbye To Young Royals || S4E7
[ENG SUB] Get To Know T-Pop Group 4MIX || Thai Pop || English Interview
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[ENG SUB] Get To Know T-Pop Group 4MIX || Thai Pop || English Interview
Unintentional Love Story | 비의도적 연애담 || Korean BL Series Review
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Unintentional Love Story | 비의도적 연애담 || Korean BL Series Review
Why Are BL Boys Always Kissing In The Kitchen? || S4E6
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Why Are BL Boys Always Kissing In The Kitchen? || S4E6
We Have Feelings About Last Twilight Series || S4E5
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We Have Feelings About Last Twilight Series || S4E5
[ENG SUB] My Stand-In, Red Peafowl & Life Updates w/ Mek Jirakit || Thai BL || English Interview
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[ENG SUB] My Stand-In, Red Peafowl & Life Updates w/ Mek Jirakit || Thai BL || English Interview
I saw this interview today!! After I know pavel from Pitbabe ..your podcast showed another yet real raw ambitious side of Pavel... Good job you all did 3 yrs ago
I miss watching Moo, Kang, and their friends on a weekly basis
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Great episode ! I would love to see ya’ll doing something similar with maybe talking about established pairing you don’t care for or would rather see with someone else? Just another episode idea in case you need it :)
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SaintZee is the hole in ym heart that will never heal. They were so good together and really brought life to a story that was a little all over the place.
Warp Effect's Fluke and Thor were my first thought as well. They included so much emotional range with such relatively short screen time. Also I thought the couples in Twins should get another shot with a better written series, since they had good chemistry despite the weird pacing and writing issues.
I remember vibe putting out a statement that they had released everyone from contract except boy. I think this was around the same time the quit releasing episodes of that spy mini series.
Liked GawinFirst in Not Me
And looking forward to PerthSanta and JossGawin
I'm looking forward to EstWilliam in ThamePo and OhmLeng in Kidnap
MewGulf was my first ship
Jimmy Tommy announced at concert they were back and them Jimmy is in new ship
BoyTod, ChapGreen, and KaoUp are the BL ships I need to come back! My honorable mention would be NutPlan.
I loved BoyTod
I love Boy and Tod in Ghost Host. They were electrifying together!
i completely agree with alexa that he is coming to me is severely underrated. i remember being super impressed with ohm because he's improved so much since his make it right days by then.
I’m about 1.5 yrs into watching BL. Bed Friend was my first and is one of my favorite BL shows, so I’m sad about the NetJames ship split. Maybe we’ll see them acting aside one another again someday (just putting that out into the Universe ✨), but if not, their’s was a great first ship to encounter in this genre. Super weird about those shady press conference comments, doesn’t sound like they were treated with kindness or professionalism in that moment.
im kinda sad we likely wont see neo and mark together again... their similar energies matched each other really well in only friends era
James also had that fall after they got back from Japan, which put him out of comission for a bit, and it seemed, in my extremely unprofessional opinion, that his mental health was not in a good place. I feel like those things played into their split, too, like the last straw.
Boston [ only friends ] is my red flag
Chap green 😢
6:38 main point🤭
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I just want to point out that the reaction I've seen to freen and seng are not unique to GL fandoms, but with any w/w pairings. Also I'm a gay man, so I'm not trying to vilify a group of people, but ive been on a lot of fandoms, so this is just something ive noticed. In the Supergirl fandom, people shipped supercorp and attacked every actor that joined the show that could possibly be in the middle of that pairing (they werent even canon). The actor Rahul Kohli even received racist attacks, and talked about the experience. In The 100, fans of Clarke and Lexa attacked the actor that played Bellamy constantly, for the same reason. The Faking It fandom attacked Gregg Sulkin constantly. The Glee fandom, faberry shippers attacked Cory Monteith constantly too. So... ive seen this happening time and time again since 2010. I wanna say its just that queer people hold tightly onto the possibility of a pairing and get attached, so a threat to that feels like a threat to them. Im not sure tho, but it happens a lot
I'm a bit worried that Mew and Tul will have certain pressure on social media after they confirm their relationship. I hope they put some boundaries with the Thai industry sometimes because I really don't like how invasive reporters get. They make me feel uneasy and queasy. I'll never understand the hate of Gulf fans. They tried to disprove that Mew and Tul are together. Now, they are throwing a hate. Mew and Tul should be strong enough to shield their relationship from it.
Interesting couples to mention are Offgun and Taynew. Off had a gf for many years before he became a ship with gun, gun is friends with her, he still follows her till this day on IG. At fist I think there was no problem but later when their ship became bigger she got harrassed a lot. Off said they broke up but months later on an IG video people saw her with Off and friends video in the background. So he might have lied just to get people to leave her alone. And then New also was dating someone for a long time, then they broke up and a couple of months later got another GF. I think he never hides it and thai fans know but still want to say ridiculous things.Seriously if he wanted to be with Tay he could have once he broke up but obviously he didnt because they are friends.
Your timing on this is *impeccable* as it was literally a week ago I was worrying about Mew and Tul and hoping that they were getting support. I was briefly worried that they were somehow being pushed into this (like promoting a show) but finally realized there wasn't a show or anything. Fans who direct hate because an actor is not in their preferred ship in real life need to get a grip and SHUT UP. These actors are real people and they should get to have real relationships. We'll always have their fictional performances.
Put me down on the list of those who hopes any actor who announces a relationship with a have a happy, fulfilling experience with their significant other. I wish fans would be happy for the real person more than the fantasy person they create in their heads, but I suppose that is part of the issue with fandom and celebrity culture, especially idol style culture. I do like how ships help normalize the idea that men can flirt and be touchy-feely with each other, and the same goes for women. However fan culture should emphasize these ships are working relationships. Though they may well include friendship or even genuine romance, a promotional tour or fanmeet is business foremost. Anything beyond business is a nice bonus for fans, but it should not be an expectation.
I love this discussion. Also I want to add a rare case that hasn't been discussed is Nonkul. I like that Nonkul waited until I Feel You Linger In The Air (IFYLITA) had finished airing in order to confirmed that he was in fact talking to/in the process of getting to know aka dating Aff (his female partner in Find Yourself). While he did get a little flack from Chinese fans, I think in general the Thai fans reception to his announcement was largely positive (since they've mostly been suspecting it since he helped Aff at her father's funeral and she's the more popular actor between the two of them, not to mention that she's a one time divorcee and a mom). I like bringing the case of Nonkul up because I feel like reactions of the fans are largely dependent on how the actors present themselves during the promotions of a series and throughout that airing period of IFYLITA, Nonkul and Bright displayed only absolute professionalism, especially to questions where they're asked about "selling ship", they've presented themselves as friendly colleagues who focus quite a lot on the scripts and the acting performances. I think this is a good reason why fans of the series are more invested in the ship of Yai/Jom much more than real life Bright/Nonkul => allowing a generally positive reaction to his "dating" news. I think it'll definitely be more interesting in the future once we get more and more well-known/lakorn actors starring in BL/GL series, rather than just queer roles in films.
Omg totally agree with your take on Nonkul and how he handled announcing his relationship with Aff! I’m almost upset at myself for nothing including them in the episode as 1/2 of the resident IFYLITA enthusiasts of LoveCast 😩
@@LoveCastTheBLPodcast It's alright. I don't think Nonkul would claim/categorize himself to be a "BL actor" either so I understand him slipping through most people's mind when it comes to these discussions. 😅
I think the word you guys wanted at the end with MewTul was "soft-launch." I think when Tul came back to Thailand, it was a slightly calculated soft-launch, because they did interviews together and events. Prior to that, I'm not sure.
While MewTul have gotten some positive reactions they have def. recieved hate . So much that Tul spoke about people saying they wanted him to die because of their relationship on the Ambulove show . Most of the hate comes from MewGulf fans who believe MewGulf are still together because MewGulf are sending them signs 😂 .They even raised a huge fuss because Tul went with Mew to Brazil. He also said in an interview recently that he was very afraid to go public but Mew made him feel comfortable to do so . Twitter and Reddit can be a dark place for MewTul supporters .
I heard about this. When Max and Tul did their fanmeet in June, they kissed, and Tul was accused of cheating on Mew. Recently, I heard there was backlash because Tul went to Mew's fanmeet in Brazil and how they should have just called it a couple fanmeet if he was gonna be there. Both things are wildly blown out of proportion, and I don't understand why these things would make people upset.
@@SlayerKitty00Tul literally joined Mew on stage for less than 30 seconds. He didn’t even want to come up on stage but he only did because Brazilian fans kept chanting his name and asked him to. So he came to say hi! And that kiss was a joke…people always love to twist things to spread hate!
@@SlayerKitty00 according to fans that where there they didn’t actually kiss . They said it was just the angle of the camera(s) . Like someone else mentioned Tul only came out because fans were literally chanting his name . The people complaining weren’t even there and aren’t really fans .
It's just shameful anti-fan behavior. I will never understand it.
I think Phayu should be closer to green. I'll admit breaking the car is bad, BUT he was always checking Rain's non verbal signals. And I always feel Vee (love machines) gets a bad rap, I wouldn't call him a red flag, but definitely yellow.
Fantastic interview! I just finished watching His Man 2 in anticipation of this and at first was like, "Wait, who's Dabit???" I started listening through a podcast app first but as soon as I recognized his voice I went to the YT to see him. Lots of respect to Dabit who REALLY put himself out there on HM2 right after his breakup, which brought him to where he is today. The BL recommendations with the immediate disclaimers were hilarious, and I enjoyed hearing about how he is interested in watching how power dynamics are played with in BL (I need to know what that other series he liked but forgot the name of was). The outrage about how clearly the Choco Milkshake writer wasn't a pet owner sent me. (fr where the butt pats??) I basically follow all his socials now thanks to this interview and saw that he was going to start watching/reacting to Only Friends, so mission accomplished. Good job, Pixie & Heather! 😻
Honestly by the end of the show, Joe's willingness to so easily forgive (and get down and dirty) with Ming made Joe less likeable. I spent the first part of the show sympathising deeply with Joe but after a while i was just fed up his lack of backbone. I don't love that the show did a 'let's redeem the abusive top' by just making Ming and Joe increasingly codependant and pathetic. I had so much hope in the beginning of the series that Joe wouldn't forgive Ming for kidnapping him and then literally indirectly causing his death. When Joe was shot I had faith that if he chose life over death that he would do so of his own volition, but nah it was Ming who told him not to die instead and he instantly caved. This is also so petty but I genuinely thought that, since both Ming and Joe are vers, at some point Ming would let Joe be on top, and that that would represent Ming conceding some of his power and allowing Joe to be in control for once - top/bottom discourse can get messy, homophobic and sexist very quickly so it isn't usually something I care to fixate on excessively...but it just felt so stupid to emphasise that both Joe and Ming are vers and then only have Joe be on top after he's been kidnapped, which was ultimately just an attempt to distract Ming. Argh. The last few episodes of this show frustrated me to no end.
This was an interesting show for me. I appreciated it more for the production quality, complex plot and characters. But I don't think I liked the main couple that much. I don't like couples that feel uneven in the level of their love or affection. Zhi Yuan seemed to be blinded by his love for Wei Qian to the point that he didn't seem to see any of his flaws. Or at least be upset by them. But that's more of a personal pet peeve. I dislike obsessive adoration if it's not acknowledged as such. I was done when Zhi Yuan wasn't more pissed at being sent away and just seemed to wait for 4 years. I think I'll read the novel for more context and then re-watch.
Catching up on this interview-what a lovely human being he is! 🥹
I, too, almost passed on this series after reading the synopsis. Somethings are not ok with me. I do not enjoy stories of romantic/sexual relationship between brothers of any degree. I knew the characters were not related by blood at the onset, but Qian raised Zhi Yuan from boyhood. This, as well as the implication that Qian was molested by his mother, could have been a storyline too disturbing for me to tolerate. However, the producers of this series did a wonderful job telling the story in a respectful and delicate manner, such that I found it beautiful, and not offensive. The flashbacks to childhood during the love scene was indeed jarring and made me somewhat uncomfortable. The version without these scenes much easier to watch.
When a novel is adapted into a series, there‘re always many aspects lost. Taiwanese director seems to lack the understanding of mainland things. They fail to capture the vibes in the original novel. this series become just a series, the original novel is more than that. it's pity that this can't be filmed in mainland of china .
"Its like a relationship" SHUT THE FREAKING HELL UP 😭🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼 and Joong's smirk nycnycmtctndd i love this duo man 😭
I always enjoy your conversations! I agree that Ming is not as bad as Vegas. Novel Ming is worse than series Ming. I initially disliked both but both grew on me. Ming was not 100 percent bad and love for Joe changed him. I agree that Yai is the greenest flag, but i love Kang too!
I’ve heard a lot about novel Ming 👀 show Ming they definitely put in the work to portray him as remorseful and trying to make up for how horrible he was
@@LoveCastTheBLPodcast I highly recommend the novel. The series did a good job, but added Joe getting shot and could not give the details of a book that better tells the story. Ming’s grief over Joe’s death and the discovery of his remains much more powerful in book. That said, the series was exceptional!
How can I have broadcast like this with milk & love?
Hi, we schedule all of our interviews through contacting the artist management!
great listen! loved the green flag debate! lolol...Having seen the three shows I'd have to pick Pisaeng as the greenest of flags..only because of his emotional intelligence..Kawi was quite a difficult character to love (unlike Jom) and Pisaeng did it beautifully...Naivete, in my view, can cause a lot of pain..this makes Yai slightly less green...but not by much! Kang goes right in the middle because he's emotionally intelligent and adorable... :)
다빗이다 ^^ 다빗님 남연3 노래 너무 좋아요^^
Eng subs please!
My tops: Vegas - Day (love syndrome) - Tharn and type // Vee (love mechanics) - Akira (life on the line) - Chin Teng (History 2) // Tin (MSP) - Vee (Century of love) - Kurosawa (Cherry) | Honorable green flag: Mork from My ride
Tharn and Type both being on the red glad list is so real gjdnbnd