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I really don't get all the hatred for the official timeline in the community. it's really not that complicated you've got the first game, aol is a sequel, lttp is a prequel, oot is a prequel's prequel, Majora's mask is a sequel to oot things get complicated with the handhelds, but it seems to be implied that the oracles and Link's awakening are all sequels to lttp (plus, there were no other timelines at the time, so where else could have nintendo intended these games to take place?) going back to the 3d games, tp is obviously a sequel to Majora, but the fact that it contradicts lttp confirms that the last time travel of the oot caused a timeline split then wind waker rolls around and it's clearly meant to follow the adult timeline of oot, but that can't be because it also contradicts lttp. how could this be? easy, they are two different continuities. NOT DIFFERENT TIMELINES, just diferent stories that share a common prequel, other series do it all the time and no one looses their heads about it after that everything is pretty self explanatory, except for four swords adventure being a sequel to twilight princess, that really just came out of nowhere. and I guess saying the hero of time died in the alternative continuity was kinda unnecessary too

I had an idea for a combined reboot of these two titles, called the Hyrule Adventure, with bits from Oracle of Seasons added in to fill out the Mid-boss gallery. I typed up the overall idea on ao3.

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An interesting note about the Goddess Statue and the religion of Hyrule is that Link has a cross on his shield. Most people I think assumed that this was just the Christian cross, but that would imply that Jesus Christ is canon in Zelda. However, I think that the in-game explanation could be that this is a simplified depiction of the Goddess statue. The long part on the bottom being the body, the small part on top being the head, and the two parts going to either side being the wings.

Pretty sure the translation of the in-game story was first changed for the GBA port, rather than the mini NES. Was it not?

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Notice the map to this game is almost the same as Breath of the Wild.

this is awesome

My main issue with the current timeline is the Zonai. It’s said that Raru is the *1st* king of Hyrule however, when Zelda travels back in time to when the kingdom was apparently ‘first established’ all the geography is the exact same as BoTW/ToTK…. Slight problem with that: those eras are supposed to take place at the END of the current timeline, not the beginning. Sooo what gives? Did the geography originally look like that after skyward sword than change a bunch throughout the games just to somehow revert back the original look? Was there multiple Hyrule’s that rose and fell that everyone seemed to just forget about? That’s not even including the present race’s in said time, the Rito exists despite there existence being only because the kingdom of Hyrule was flooded… but if thats true than in order to exist at the same time as Raru than that can only mean there was indeed a Hyrule before the Zonai came into play. I can’t wait to see how you solve this mess lol

Great minds think alike! May the best timeline win

My timeline (Second Version): Creation > Zonai Descend Upon Hyrule > Rauru and Sonia Found the Kingdom of Hyrule > Ganondorf Kill Sonia and Took Her Secret Stone and Became Demise > Demise kill Rauru and the Sages > Descend of Goddess Hylia > The War Between Hylia and Demise > Hylia Sealed Demise > Skyward Sword > Timeline Split > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Sacred Realm is Sealed > Hyrulean Civil War > Ocarina of Time > Timeline Split (Adult Timeline) - Ganondorf is Resurrected > Hyrule is Sealed and Flooded > Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Ganondorf is Executed > Twilight Princess (Demise is Defeated in the Past Timeline) - Reincarnation of Hylia Returns to Surface > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Minish Descend > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Four Sword Adventure > Triforce Is Discover > Master Sword is Forged > Imprisoning War > A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds > Tri Force Heroes > Golden Era > The Tragedy of Princess Zelda 1 > The Legend of Zelda > The Adventure of Link (The Arrival of Zelda From the Future Timeline) - The Arrival of Zelda From the Future > Ganondorf Kill Sonia and Took Her Secret Stone and Became Demise > Imprisoning War > The Arrival of Master Sword From the Future > Zelda Become a Eternal Dragon > Master Sword is Forged > Unknown Number of Calamitys > Calamity of 10,000 Years Ago > Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom

"If your grandparents had an NES, your parents likely played Zelda." Took me a minute to figure out I'm the "parents" in that quote.

IF YOUR GRANDPARENTS HAD AN NES. Come on man, I was born in 1984. I had an NES. No need to make me feel fucking old.

I hate to sound like an Angry Fan, but I think there's at least 2 big reasons why a lot of people have trouble disagreeing on timelines. 1) As you point out in this video, the localization wasn't 100% on-point in the earlier games. As far as pre-2000's translations go, I'd say that Zelda 1 actually got as much of the Japanese intent across as possible and I would only blame hardware limitations from keeping the text from translating perfectly (since Japanese doesn't need as many characters to convey a meaning and how that would leave less room in the code for other language translations that you see in other older games). That said, the fact that there were discrepancies at all probably led to things like the cartoon being more inspired by a Bruce Willis movie than the games and may have taken the series a while to outgrow, leading to lots of areas for people to get confused by and/or disagree on. 2) Nintendo seems to want to make Zelda as easily-accessible as Mario and Pokémon. Based on Eiji Aounuma saying that he sees the series as a bunch of unrelated legends, things like Smash Brothers trophies and Hyrule Historia rebranding ReDeads into clay monsters rather than reanimated dead and the Nintendo Timeline including a "Ganon Wins Ocarina" timeline (which doesn't have any representation in OoT but DOES sound cool to people just getting into the series, since I thought it was cool when I first heard about it), I think Nintendo almost regrets the amount of work they put into the earlier games' interconnectedness and would rather treat all of their games as chances to come up with new gameplay ideas and write interesting stories but treat them all as one-offs, even though that's not how the series started. The second reason has come up in conversations I've been in at least twice and the first reason has historically led to gamers thinking things like Shen Long is a character in Street Fighter. These may not be the only reasons that keep fans from agreeing on things, but I imagine they play a somewhat big role...Unless I totally misheard Aounuma and nobody at Nintendo ever treated Zelda as an anthology. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing how this all pans out and wish you luck piecing all of the stories and notes together and finding time to play the more narrative-heavy games and keeping track of all of those details!

Good luck making your timeline! Although I haven't played Breath or Tears yet, they are fortunately, the last games to come up in your playthrough (or maybe Echoes of Wisdom, depending on when that releases), so I'll have no problem watching as all of this unfolds no matter how much time I take getting to the Switch games.

My timeline: Creation > Era of the Goddess Hylia > Skyward Sword > Timeline Split > Kingdom of Hyrule Is Established > Sacred Realm Is Sealed > Hyrulean Civil War > Ocarina of Time > Timeline Split (Adult Timeline) - Ganondorf Is Resurrected > Hyrule Is Sealed and Flooded > Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Ganondorf Is Executed > Twilight Princess (Demise Is Defeated in the Past Timeline) - Reincarnation of Hylia Returns to Surface > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Triforce Is Discover > Sacred Realm Is Sealed > Minish Descend > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Four Sword Adventure > Master Sword Is Forged > Imprisoning War > A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds > Tri Force Heroes > Echoes of Wisdom > Golden Era > The Tragedy Of Princess Zelda 1 > Master Sword Is Lost > The Legend of Zelda > The Adventure of Link > Hyrule Kingdom Is Destroy > Zonai Descend Upon Hyrule > Rauru and Sonia Found the Kingdom of Hyrule > The Arrival of Zelda From the Future > Second Imprisoning War > The Arrival of Master Sword From the Future > Zelda Become a Eternal Dragon > Master Sword Is Found > Unknown Number of Calamitys > Calamity of 10,000 Years Ago > Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom

I’ve referred to the place where 1986 Zelda lives as the Little Kingdom, while the King of the backstory ruled the United Kingdom of Hyrule which covered the entire land, including the eastern island/continent. The United Kingdom fragmented after the Prince became King, until only the Little Kingdom was left. I believe both the United Kingdom and the Little Kingdom are still known as Hyrule, as well as the region being Hyrule as well.

When will the next episode of this series be?

Bro, the Zelda timeline was legit pulled out of someone's ass at Nintendo. It didn't exist until after Twilight Princess and at the time seemed like a Tryhard response to the original Split timeline theory. I'm all for the fans overriding the creators on this.

Chronologically next is the cartoon series and comic books

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Are you going to get into the tv cartoon and the comic books?

timeline is completely fine how it is with botw and totk being at the end of all timelines and starting a new so dont get everyones obsession with not accepting that but im still here for lore breakdowns

10:03 No it isn't. 9_9 In fact, there was some concept art that showed both maps connecting to each other and both were the same size. Zelda 2's map is north of Zelda 1's map. As for lore, I always figured Zelda's Lullaby from Ocarina of Time originated when Zelda I was put to sleep. Just as it was decreed that all females be named Zelda after her, the Royal Family's song was also probably created to honor her.

Zelda 1986's map is geographically isolated from the rest of Hyrule and has a negligible population. This would make it much easier to conquer than the rest of Hyrule. Therefore, i suspect Ganon's control over the rest of Hyrule was heavily contested, if it existed at all. This would also give Ganon another reason to imprison Zelda, namely makign her a a hostage to prevent the Hylians from sending an army to attack his territory. -- I previously suggested Ganon might be from a kingdom north of TLoZ's map. But, that now seems unlikely. So, where does he come from? I believe he is most likely from the Eastern Continent since that isn't a part of Hyrule and he could easily sail an army from there to 86's map without alerting Hyrule's royal family to his activities until it's to late. In any case, i believe the Triforce of Power was located somewhere near Death Mountain even before Ganon stole it, possibly in Saria.

I have a theory about where BOTW/TOTK place in the timeline, that I have not heard anyone else mention before. I would be happy to share if you are interested.

Saw this video recommended, glad I clicked zelda lore always gets me back to the games after years

Timeline based only on games,manuals and interviews: Skyward Sword > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Ocarina of Time (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Twilight Princess > Four Sword Adventure (Adult Timeline) - Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Fallen Timeline) - A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracles of Ages/Oracles of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds> The Legend of Zelda > The Link's Adventure (The distant future) - Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom

we need a remake of Zelda one and two. Agree?

I too am hype for echoes of wisdom, the last Zelda games I played skyward sword and breath of the wild I don't like at all. I'm at the end of the game for both, and don't care enough to complete them.

I never realized there were 2 types of old men. Hylian (pointy ears and in dungeons) and Human (round ears and above ground). Thanks ❤

I grew up playing these classic Zelda games on the NES in my early teens and I love hearing the lore and stories / theories of these classic Zelda games. I will never stop playing them! Thanks so much for the great video! 👍💯

I think that Hyrule castle is the same as the North Castle. As you said, the prince probably wouldn’t carry Zelda too far, and given the size of Zelda 1’s map, the location you have it at now would’ve been a decently far distance away. I imagine we only see a single room of the palace for the sake of gameplay.

Isn't Ganon's game over laugh the same as Mr. X in kiung fu.

Nice work! Please keep it up. I've wanted to sit down and do a deep dive of the timeline for years. I think it's important to keep in mind that we are working with the "legend" of Zelda. These are stories. Stories that could be missing details, people, and places that aren't fully relevant to the narrative being told. I feel like too many of the fanbase look at every game as a complete snapshot of the world at that time. Exactly like you said with the castle. Just because it's not on the map, doesn't mean that it isn't there. I think the same train of thought can be true for everything. Races, dungeons, monsters, locations. The games are at a minimum only going to present information important to the narrative being told. The split timeline never made 100% sense to me. But in my head, I feel like there is a likelihood that the timeline is cyclical. A self revealing self fulfilling loop. It never seems to fit that the further back you look into the timeline, the more advanced the civilization and technology seems. Just a bit of my head cannon. :3 Keep up the good work!

It's funny because when ALttP was released, you assume that _she_ ends up becoming the first Zelda at some point after the game. Also when LA comes out, it's still safe to assume that happens; in fact, the backstory of Zelda II could be happening _while_ Link is indisposed on Koholint. Then, still later, when OoT came out, you figure, nope... _she_ must be Zelda the First, and all the princesses are named after her. Anyhow, it keeps sliding backwards, like a reverse floating timeline, until SS where the girl named Zelda isn't even a princess. Also there's the discrepancy where they're using the full Triforce during a time where the Triforce of Courage is supposed to be hidden. Then, after _all that_ they offer the "explanation" that she wasn't actually Zelda I, and that they've just been naming all princesses Zelda forever for no reason. Also Zelda II's backstory happens like immediately before Zelda I (but well after ALttP), maybe 100 years before or less, judging by the official timeline. In any case... I just wanted to point out, I meant "you" as in "the entire Zelda fanbase at the time," in which I include myself... I'm not calling out _you_ specifically.

What is the song at 4:20?

Interesting how with the second game, right off the bat, we already have our first problem. Who can use the Triforce! Both versions of the A Link to the Past lore, further backed later games, confirm that the power of the Triforce can in fact be misused for personal gain. That's literally the whole point of keeping it out of the hands of evil! But Zelda II's lore denies this fact before it even became a thing. It's no wonder why not only does Miyamoto despise this game with a passion but Nintendo has zero interest in remaking the game period. And since this game is tied to the first game, that's why Nintendo won't remake that too. The way I see it, already, you've completed the first timeline! The first two games should not have been canon to all the other games because in the world of those two games, Triforce can not be used by impure folk, yet villains seek it. To me, that sounds like the first two games are really just a fable told in Hyrule and not actual events. With A Link to the Past being the actual true first Zelda game to present actual events taking place in Hyrule. We hear about a war for Triforce known as the Sealing War in ALttP's backstory and that the Dark World exists because of Ganon's use of Triforce. Yes, a corrupt individual used the Triforce, implying that ALttP takes place in Hyrule's actual reality. While Zelda 1 and 2 are mere stories told to inspire confidence in people with the idea that Good always wins and Evil always loses in the end. Sort of like the Real Life fairy tales we know that are like that. That said, this makes A Link to the Past the first reboot, not Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time would reboot the timeline again by preventing A Link to the Past from happening. And from there, the timeline continues to become more and more of the mess that it is today. Where have the sequel to the one canonical ending of OoT in Majora's Mask, which doesn't even take place in Hyrule, but instead a completely different world known as Termina. Wind Waker takes place after the alternate ending of OoT where Link beat Ganon that Zelda then prevented by sending Link back to create the Child Timeline. And Twilight Princess is first actual continuity after the canon ending of Ocarina of Time (the one we actually see happen). And the timeline just gets more and more complicated from there as later we see that the original A Link to the Past timeline is actually now another alternate ending timeline where Link lost in OoT. I understand that this is about rebuilding the timeline following each game as they came out. I just wanted to share my feelings towards the contradicting idea of the Triforce basically being the Master Sword at this point of canon. [sigh] It stuff like this is why retcons are always inevitable. Especially when the creators just make stuff up as they go. [sigh]😞

The way I always read it, the Prince only inherited the Triforce of Power. His sister, Zelda I, was given the Triforce of Wisdom, with Courage hidden in the Great Palace. If the Prince did not initially know about his sister's portion, then he would be searching for Wisdom as well as Courage, making the English manual make more sense.

Before I start watching this, earlier this year I made up my own timeline, without any splits at all, using the Cycle of Reincarnation and unseen adventures to handwave any issues. I divided it into 3 Eons: 1: Skyfall Eon 1: Skyward Sword 2: Minish Cap 3: Four Swords 4: Zelda 1/2 5: Link to the Past 6-8: Oracle Games and Awakening? Aside from Ages happening before Seasons, I'm currently undecided, for reasons relating to Echoes of Wisdom. 9: Link Between Worlds 10: Four Swords Adventures 11: Triforce Heroes 2: Water Rise Eon: 1: Ocarina of Time 2: Majora's Mask 3: Twilight Princess 4: Wind Waker(thank you reincarnation) 5: Phantom Hourglass 3: Refounding Eon: 1: Spirit Tracks 2: Hyrule Warriors 3: Cia's Tale(I headcanon the War of Ages is a time loop) 4: Linkle's Tale 5: Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition Adventure Mode(even more loops) 6: Hyrule Warriors: Great Sea Expansion(the final loop) 7: Tears of the Dragon(Zonai Hyrule) 8: 10,000 Years Ago(Hyperbole, probably) 9: Age of Calamity(history loves repeating itself) 10: Breath of the Wild(including Champion's Ballad, though not necessarily the other dlc stuff) 11: Tears of the Kingdom