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I just heard about this book and another one, Queering the Mormon Cosmos. I have been searching for books that discuss the joyful intersection of Mormonism and queerness as I've been discovering my trans identity outside of the church. I find that I can't cut Mormonism away from me to find myself. It's an integral part of my queer identity and it's been hard to accept that with how much pain it has caused. I 100% want to read this book. Thank you for this podcast

Finally! An account that at least partially backs up what I encountered as non-Mormon college student in Salt Lake City in the 1980's-1990's. Salt Lake City was the gayest city in America, closeted gayest city. There was a married Homosexual Mormon male underground dedicated to allowing Married mormon males to remain "faithful" in their religion and have a social/sexual outlet for their homosexuality. I could see the outlines of the underground in the baseball/softball leagues and assorted social clubs all around town. Then I heard the stories from Mormon classmates I became friends with of a gay brother married to a Lesbian Mormon woman. They had enough sex to have 5 kids which they proceeded to raise as a very good Mormon couple while having their girl/boyfriends. It was astonishing to hear about mostly as I was a non-Mormon not allowed much more than glimpses of this world. I hope more comes out onthis as I realized even then that with Mormons having large families that genetically a large portion of kids born would be gay, furthering the closeting, and the problems of drugs and alcohol used to cope with being gay and Mormon.

Some places are $20-$30k/mo inpatient

Thank you for this conversation!! So beautiful and so much of what I needed to hearl!! ❤❤❤

100% agree, I just realized that Mario updated his favorite way to tackle ED and it's crazy! Although what he previously talked about was pretty decent, it was difficult to follow, I just go'ogled the latest by Mario Volpstein, it's so much simpler and potent now!

I know a kid who is closeted transgender and is attending seminary in Utah. I'm very worried about them, more now than before the policy changes. I think they're physically safe, but risk being outed and humiliated or bullied

So frustrating to see that the church does know how to protect against perpetrators, but only cares to in the context of a trans panic

Love this podcast! Grateful for both of you being so open and willing to share your experiences and talk about difficult subjects. I feel like I have come a long way with the shame element after leaving Mormonism. However I still struggle with being assertive and I have no idea how to feel comfortable with my body completely. I am wondering if there is any suggestions or anything that I could do to try and be more dominant and assertive in sexual situations. Feel like I have just been conditioned my whole life to be submissive but I want to be the one to take control every once in awhile and my partner has vocalized that as well but it's just difficult for me I get stuck in my own head.

Aimee, I love how you speak about things. I wish there was a way to have you as a mentor, I want to be like you when I grow up 🖤

You all are coming from a Mormon background. Notorious for its history of polygamy. So it seems they only have a problem with non-monogamy when women do it.

Love that you and your partner found each other!! Thank you for sharing your story. I grew up LDS and the similarities in purity culture are crazy!! It's all about control.

Very informative..this provided me with the answers to many questions about my own relationship dilemmas. Thank you..

I also have a testimony of cannabis!!! Such a great conversation!!! Thank you!!! ❤️❤❤

🎉🎉 great conversation, I loved it ❤

Thought I would point out that even if you start out the same drive level, that can change. Depression, over working, hormones through pregnancy, etc. can change that.

This is so great! This story is so similar to my own, but I was not abused. I feel like I can't talk about it because I realize it comes from a very privileged place, but even we need validation ❤ It wasn't till I was 25 that I knew it was so hard for so many people when my friend group opened up about it

Thank you both for being so open about this subject 😀

Great talk, as always ❤❤❤ thank you for bringing on Carah 😊

Ugh. Hard to listen to…I’m a mom of 4 sons. So much unnecessary shame to unravel. ❤

Preston was so sweet! Your story is great and so helpful to so many people. ❤ I think you'll make an excellent mental health counselor!

Kelly, thank you for sharing your story!! There are so many parallels to mine. The part about asking questions and unraveling the rug hit the nail on the head for what I've been dealing with my whole TBM family. I'm the bad guy for asking questions and trying to get answers. Keep having these hard conversations because they are so important!! You are worthy for all the good things life has to offer.

I was adopted into a Mormon family at 13. I had very little knowledge or understanding of what it meant to be a female. I was not into boys growing up, I felt more comfortable just talking and hanging around my girlfriends. As I grew older into college I learned I was more interested into looking at nude girl magazines instead of boy magazines. I couldn't understand why and I started feeling afraid that I might be gay. Later I did get married to a man 20 years older than me and I had a hard time enjoying sex. I tried with others it was the same. Yet I can imagine me doi it with a woman more than a man.

This was such a WONDERFUL interview... and VERY needed!! ❤

Fascinating conversation.

I am glad I found this vid, it has been a major pet peeve of mine for a while... they came to my kids school with their 'porn is a drug' BS to my kid's middle school some years back (in Utah) and I complained. They weren't even considering it a sex ed topic, it was a 'motivational' Institute teacher from BYU!!!

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Love the work you do Natasha!! Thank you!

I watched 8 passengers for years There is a vast difference between the ruby that started the channel and the ruby that Jodi turned into. One difference when Ruby was just starting out she cared about making her children breakfast and lunches. Then in 2018 Jodi came on the scene you start hear her talking about "natural consequences" R forgets his lunch and she says to him maybe someone could share a lunch with you. Then E misses a lunch a year later and she hopes she suffers so it really teaches her a lesson. These "abusive" punishments come at the recommendation of (Kevin he says in a clip) of Jodi a person who comes recommended by the church and BYU. The ruby before Jodi would have never taken her kids Christmas I remember Christmas where the kids got HUGE amounts of gifts. Jodi recommended the camp Jodi was the one that recommended him loosing the bed. The verbiage used about having the kids miss Christmas and food was the language of Jodi Hildebrandt. <sigh> Yes there are laws about with holding food, education, there are actually no laws about with holding a bed. (shocking I know) The reason the Franke's were not charged when the viewers raised the warning flags. Because the children were not malnourished. Your going to need way more then missing one meal to get to that stage. The reason Kevin is not being charged NOW is because he was in one of Jodi's treatments that she separates men from their families if it was not for the countless men coming forward he probably be in jail. Like the many others he had the paperwork to prove he was in this group. Because lets face it no one WANTS to take his word for it.

I grew up with "Meet the Mormons." I don't think Mormon Prophets at that time were working with Satan.

Thank you for sharing your feelings on this! I really look up to and appreciate everything you do to help this community!!! ❤❤❤

I'm not Mormon/CJCL-dS but I will continue to use the term Mormon with my friends because it is easier to say. If I know someone who is Mormon/CJCL-dS, I will ask which term he/she/they prefer. I live in Louisville, Kentucky and know only one person who is Mormon; he is an entertainer, I hardly ever see him and we never talk about religion, so no problem here. I admit I feel resistance to having to spit out all those words of the obligatory new name of the church (whereas, I would be more amenable to calling a newly married friend Mrs. Multi-syllabic.) As an atheist, I tend to feel annoyed with almost anything a religious institution requires me to comply with.

Such a powerful group of brilliant, caring, wise women! I was informed and inspired by each of you. There are still so many issues to address - especially institutional ones. But you all give me that treasured wisp of hope that perhaps there may be a kinder, more loving future for all someday. Thank you.

Natasha, your appearances surrounding the Joby fiasco opened my mind and have led me to find many You-Tubers, like yourself, that are genuine and passionate. I will never forget your indignant "That is MAL! PRACTICE!" Seeing the emotional impact of these ladies' comments, I want to add that we in cyberspace also adore and respect you!

Not sure when this was recorded but Jodi did relinquish her license within the past week. Great discussion, I also learned a lot from your appearance on Mormon Stories. I think one of the positives to come from this is getting to know new voices and communities as they share their stories.

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I've had experiences from religious institutions that would peel the paint off the living room walls. I want no part off that indotrinating diarrhea now.

This so so helpful and insightful. I was body shamed for decades by people who claimed that they loved me. To this day I do not want to hear "I love you" because the ones that uttered those words betrayed my trust continually.

This video was so helpful as I began the process of uncovering the layers of sexual and religious trauma I carry. Thank you so much for doing this work and sharing your thoughts and knowledge.

I wonder how many wives whose reasonings were to consent for security had been cheated on either in the current marriage or previous relationships.

Dr Trish Leigh 😊

Thank you for sharing your story, Lacey! You're beautiful!! ❤❤

Thank a very much, educational and insightful podcast.

Ok, now I have to comment :) I totally see myself in Ronan with difficult course of sexual identity; you’re just 20 yrs or so younger, and you are able to live your full and difficult true self sooner than I could. And (maybe thus) more thoroughly, I never changed my name ;) here is what I ended up with as mantras to help me cope and be more happy: life is not easy, but, did anybody ever say it was? Also, it would be boring if it was easy. Dunno if that helps you, that’s just me. Now the important part: Ronan, your face is really gorgeous (wow!), you have a beautiful presence, let me tell you, you seem interesting, relaxed, nice and very intelligent. Stay awesome and be good to yourself 😘 love

Couple of perspectives to add to this lovely conversation, first, one way to think about the healing aspects of bdsm is to look at the way children process trauma. Children often process trauma by playing games that mimic or recapitulate the trauma. I would say that doing this doesn't just desensitized the trauma but also helps the child regain agency over the trauma because in play they are making choices in the play. Play is also removed from the traumatic situation so your brain is able to process the trauma differently and help your body return to a sense of safety. This need to play through trauma doesn't end just because we grow up, instead it moves to the erotic space. So it's not really a helpful question to ask "is this related to my client's trauma?" The better question to ask is "is this helping my client process their trauma?" And a good way to start differentiating kink from repetition compulsion is to figure out if what is going on is play. The second point I wanted to add is that in addition to thinking about pain as a sensation it can also be thought of as a way of opening the body. In her book The Body in Pain Elaine Scary observes that pain is used in neumorous ways by humans. She begins by looking at the practice of self flagilation in Christian ritual. She hypothesizes that self flagilation is used to open the body to receive the Devine. She then moves to look a torture where pain is used to create a profoundly uncomfortable intimacy between the perpetrator and the victim. In both cases she hypothesizes that pain is a neutral sensation that brings the body into a place where greater intimacy is possible. It is a sensation that is often misused, or is used to cause harm, but this doesn't mean that it can't have other power positive purposes.

Working through your podcasts, Natasha. Very informative😅 .Makes one feel that one was or is not alone.

How can i relate a personal concern?

Recovery from Mormonism is a very hard thing to go through..

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I realised that comments are not public on this channel when I posted one a few weeks ago; now I feel more inclined to comment more :) really great episode, I learnt many new perspectives on/ aspects of BDSM! I never fully understood how the exchange of power, etc. works and I think, and I got it now!!! Stefani explains and speaks in such a coherent way, it is starting to really make sense to me now what BDSM is about. Now I am wondering where I could be located on the spectrum :D a lot to think about with all the input I got :) thanks a lot