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Those old 30 series Deeres were the hardest starting tractors ever built. We had a 4230 that started like that whenever it dropped below 70 degrees. If it was below 50 you had to plug it in. The 4440 we had always started much better but it belched such a massive cloud of black smoke that one time when dad fired it up in the shed the old widow lady who lived on the farm across the road saw the smoke rolling out the door and called my mom and told her our shed was on fire. LOL

Deere built good transmissions. IH built good motors.

4640 has a bigger motor so it takes more to get it started

@@klara8897 4440 and 4640 have the same 466 motor, only difference is the 4440 doesn’t have a intercooler

@@Born2FarmForced2Wrench no 4640 puts out more power witch means it pumps more fule ect with makes it start harder

@@connork4440 the difference in stock pump settings is minimal, under normal conditions a 46 and 44 would be pretty much equal in starting capacity, especially since they have the hydraulic aneroid to start at full fuel. The reason the original commenters 46 starts harder is likely because it’s either just a higher houred tractor, and the aneroid may not be adjusted perfectly, or, he 44 might have also had its aneroid screw adjusted to allow it to start better

Robert F, OK smarty, next time I’ll tell the neighbor to leave his truck in the ditch for a few hours while the block heater warms the engine. Get to know the whole story before you fire off assumptions. Also, I’d love to hear your theory about the rings, the engine oil, and the main bearings. Actually, no I don’t, because I think you’ll just run off at the mouth again. Starter? I’ll give you that. Cold starts, and long cranking is sure tough on starters and batteries. FYI, same starter and same batteries since this video was taken a couple of years ago, so I think it’s going to be ok after one tough start, to help a friend in need.

ck06mw are you 5? Grow up and have an adult conversation. Did I jump down your throat about it? No. You post a video you made on purpose to showcase a long crank time on a cold Diesel engine and then get all butthurt when someone suggest how to improve your tractors starting performance? Grow up man. If you need an education on how warm oil pumps faster and lubricates quicker and better during initial start up then you shouldn’t be operating heavy equipment. Not to mention cylinder wash and oil dilution from the fuel in oil. It doesn’t take a “smarty” to know this. Anybody who has more than 2 brain cells gets this basic concept. Helping a friend out? Neighbors truck in a ditch???? TF are you talking about???? I don’t know your back story and I don’t care and for your info no one else does either. You made a video about cold starting a farm tractor, so that’s the comments you should expect. Take a moment to not let emotion run your life and make you in to a douche bag in the eyes of the world. You might actually learn something.

I just got a notification that now you’re subscribing to me? I don’t have a channel or post videos. Are you a fucking weirdo or something?

Robert F Robert F Robert F HAHA! This is awesome. You’re quite predictable. “Butthurt”, “more than 2 brain cells”, “douche bag” Yep, you sure set a fine example of an “adult conversation”. Truck in the ditch means, the neighbor put the truck in the ditch, in the snow, and called for help. Since it was winter and only 18°and it’s a 404, I knew it would start hard, so I set up the phone to record it. Unless you click on videos to just offer obvious advice (referencing the observation of the lights, and the fact it takes electricity to make them work, so I could have plugged in the block heater) you must think cold start videos are pretty cool too. In reference to the emotion comment, I would have to suggest you follow your own advice. As far as the oil, cylinder wash, oil dilution, if you are concerned about that after 1 start attempt that lasted a minute and a half, you may benefit from that aforementioned education as well. Keep the comments coming if you wish. I will continue to read them. I have thoroughly enjoyed the exchange this evening. Also, you must actually care a little bit about the “back story” or you wouldn’t have read this far into the comment.

ck06mw I had to throw in buzzwords to help you follow along. You’re really trying here but the fact remains you posted a video with an open comment section and can’t handle when someone suggest ways to help your tractor start faster in cold conditions. Not only will your tractor thank you but your friend will too since they won’t be waiting for you to quit playing with your phone. It’ll give you more time to stalk people too.

Ronnie Stewart I do. It’s really helpful while planting at night.

Yeah but you wouldn’t get the cold start

Have you ever tried to start a 4430?

@@brandonkorell7136 No but was around them when I was a kid.

@Brenden Gore almost 2 years ago, my boss lost his 4450 tractor in a fire because the heat block was very old and the electricity is what was believed to be the cause. Plus it was under 10 degrees that morning.

@@brandonkorell7136 That was a typical cool start, a proper cold start was much more dramatic. I remember helping my dad start his 1977 4430, block heater, tiger torch, tarp, ether and a lot of swearing getting it started on a -35C day.

rob peters abuse? I’d rather buy a new starter every season than fill an engine full of ether. By the way... this video was taken a few years ago, and it currently has the same starter, batteries, and cables as in the video.

@@ck06mw eh the 404's were made for ether. all the 40 series were

Yeah I think every single 4430 was cold starters I knew a guy who used ether in 95 degree summer heat to get his running

Our 4430 was also a bitch to start and South African winters aren't even that cold ... Was n brute when it got going though 😀👍

The 404 was a much harder starting engine than the 466’s, although all JD’s from probably 1965 until 2000 are cold blooded. It’s recommended to ether them.

@@oe542 no do not use ether plug in the block heater and use the fuel primer only use ether if you really have to

That's a headlight kit on a tractor you dumb-ass

have you started many turbo-ed JD 404 engines?

That’s just how they are.

No thats just how these tractors are if you want it to start easy plug it in and prime the fuel system

@@oe542 Yep. they were that way back when they were new. I dunno how Deere dealers ever sold one during winter and there were several COLD winters back in the mid 1970s.

He keep pressing the start button from 0:05 to 0:55 eheeeeey 50 seconds. My small tractor is starting for less than a second..This is not just this case...just glance at youtube JD cold start you'll see...NOT one JD starts easy, every JD has a hard time to start

@@user-sb8fi8jq5g This has probably a bigger engine then your tractor, so yeah yours will start faster...

Yes my 539 is preaty smal tractor but...nevertheless I haven't seen even small JD to start up as it should. Just look how easy start imt539 ua-cam.com/video/VKfdmDy8hXg/v-deo.html this is is not my tractor but start like my 539. Take a look how tractors has started almost 100 years ago, without battery ua-cam.com/video/3bX6wYJBHNc/v-deo.html So it is really surprise me that worldwide best tractor manufacturer produce this modern tractors like space shuttles and still have hard time just to start.

John Deere’s are cold blooded. But if you plug them in or ether them you’re ok but most people just crank the starter until it fires.

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