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@828312 I don't know brother, I think The Bible is pretty awesome because of how ancient it is and how much detail there is. Either way on what u believe, it is one of the oldest, largest, and most complete collection of books from ancient times known today which is pretty cool. However, this test was designed just to find out how heavy of shot would have been necessary to be lethal with a short sling like this that was likely used in the story, so I hope u enjoyed the video! 😀

@Rcampo42 perhaps, but if we are taking the text seriously, it states that Goliath was a man of war with large amounts of experience. If he did, he would've died a long time before David more than likely. I've heard that explanation, and to me it sounds like the same thing as saying "well, the real reason this man died wasn't because he was shot in the heart, but because He had a heart condition that made him vulnerable to bullets" Here's a direct quote: 1 Samuel 17:33 KJV [33] And Saul said to David, Thou art not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him: for thou art but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.

Gotta disagree there, I have a radar and have found little to no difference in accuracy or speed with multiple variations, this style is called tahitian, greek doesn't normally have the cord touching ur neck. The reason I use this style is because I can easily have a shot ready to go and comfortably walk and so on, but ballistically balearic style, Greek, byzantine, they all have about the same ballistics 😉

There is no style called Tahitian. You're referencing information put out in the book by Gigi York, who has no background in Oceanic culture outside of Micronesia; she technically specialized in the archeology of Guam and the Mariana Islands. Guam is essentially the last Oceanic nation to preserve its slinging culture, but it is not representative of every culture across Oceania. I've seen this style of casting done in Guam but no where in Polynesia, of which Tahiti belongs to. That being said, we mentioned the same issue with the sling length on the forum post you made 2 years ago. But as we said back then, doesn't matter as long as you're accurate.

Quite possibly, but this test is meant to show the lethality of a handheld sling. Nobody questions how effective a rock the size of ur foot is when chucked at ur head 😉

​Back when I was younger I could throw a rock roughly the size of a grenade 80 yards as I paced it off@@newworldmartialartist7245

really is, especially since the max with the same sling is 104-110mph! could probably make one just by cutting a shirt into one long, thick strip and have an effective weapon.

Hello again! 👋 The lead bullets I used at the very end absolutely would penetrate, I have multiple videos up of sling bullets penetrating ballistic gel (which is shockingly tough and hard to pierce, even a 40# recurve bow only got through about 6 inches, while the sling bullets got about 5 1/2 inches). And ya, I saw that vid too, crazy how powerful these are 😀

That is actually a very common misconception. The only force given to a projectile in a sling of this size, is given on the very LAST rotation. Just like pitching. Every other spin is simply to keep the projectile in the pouch, not to give it more power 😉

😀 I definitely wouldn't want to fight a lion or bear that's for sure! Though if I had to pick a weapon and it couldn't be a gun, I would absolutely pick a sling with a stone, or steel ball, or even better a lead bullet, weighing 150-200grams. The sling is such a force multiplier its insane what can be done when using heavy ammo, and honestly have no doubts that a stone weighing 200 grams would break lion bones. (BTW, the weight ranges I used in this video was 44 grams up to 66 grams. And nowhere near my max effort. The throw that shattered the skull was a 66gram steel ball at right around 90mph, my max with that same sling is about 107mph. With the lead bullet, weighing about 60 grams, was MUCH less. Only around 70-75mph and it punched into the brain. The energy would be more than double what was shown from the lead bullet if I gave it my max effort)

Ikr?! DnD severely underestimates slings

He did cut off his head so ya, definitely dead lol. But The Bible does specify that the stone from the sling is what killed him. Here's a direct quote: 50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him. 51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.

U may very well be correct, but just from the verses that we get this story, it does specify what slew him. Here's a direct quote from KJV: 50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him. 51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.

Hey man! I understand why u think that, all my tests are from up close too, but so is the vast majority of firearm tests too. It's simply for making the test easy to perform, nothing more. As for ur experience with them... well, all I can say is that I commonly throw at distances of 170 yards or farther with my short slings, my long slings easily pass 280 yards. With 1000 grain steel balls. This test also proved that even a short sling with VERY light ammo (yes, 66 grams is light for blunt ammo) , can and have kill. Also, the romans LOVED the sling bullets for their insane range and there are several historical documents on slings having a dramatic effect on battles. By the way, if I wanted to have a dramatic, head popping showcase, I would have used just sling bullets or historically accurate stones (100 grams or more) and with a medium or long sling. I did this test to demonstrate the ABSOLUTE LOWEST END capabilities of the sling. A super short sling, medium-low effort throws, to simulate downrange effects even if almost all speed and momentum was lost on overly light projectiles. I recommend u do some research into it, slinging.org is filled with knowledgeable experts and also an entire section dedicated strictly to historical and archeological knowledge of the sling. Edit: one more thing, there are instances where slingers were said to outrage bowmen, heck the English longbow didn't make the sling disappear, it is still in medieval artwork on battlefields. And sling bullets easily outrange even 160lb longbow, even I with my small amount of experience completely outrange 160lb longbows, Tod's workshop did some range tests and I didn't have trouble beating their distances with lead ammo.

I can shoot 125 yards with mine. Practice a lot and you WILL get good results.

Ouch lol, thanks though for speaking ur opinion in a kind manner. I know I am not anywhere near as good as alot of other slingers Out there, but I figured that because of that, it would give a good idea as to what a general, more casual or novice slinger could do with very light blunt ammo. Out of curiosity, what could I improve on? Thanks 😊

@@newworldmartialartist7245 im Not good at all but I would figure for this experiment to be truly accurate it would require a skilled slinger, as most shepherd would be because this is literally their life

@TonyMontana-yd2gz If I could get some extremely skilled slinger to come and test, I probably would, though sadly anyone with alot of experience simply is not near me. And hey, if I, with my small amount of experience, can do this kind of damage to a head, imagine how much better an expert would be 😉

wtf is it powder coated with, vibranium? You might be confused about powder coating properties, they dont add any hardness to bullets, why would they smash it with a hammer, much less a "ball pein" hammer? That would be a really stupid tool to use for industrial testing and a really stupid idea for testing bullets lol.

I'll see about putting a video out on that then, thx for the vid idea 😀

Lol, well yes he very well may have, however mine is made of cord and leather, which historically was used quite often. 2nd, if they are braided, they are much heavier slings and require more effort to achieve the same velocity that a light sling would.

@@newworldmartialartist7245 I spose it works with that round the neck style you do your very good at it

I doubt it, and that is simply because accuracy is equivocally more difficult the more effort used. For instance, in this video which has most of the shots occurring at 5-6 yards, maybe 30% were head hits? While the rest would be body blows. That's with most of those throws being at a relatively accurate effort speedwise. Now of course david would have been a much better slinger than myself, but the rule still applies, and as such if David was launching at Goliath, it was very likely from 20 yards away or more. Thus he would probably be trying to be more accurate, since he already knew the power would be plenty. Also, I did this test using VERY light ammo for a sling because I knew anything much heavier would obliterate it, and, most agree that for blunt ammo, a sling is better suited for 100-200 gram stones. I was using steel balls weighing no more than 66 grams. The only good ammo used was the sling bullet made of lead, biconical, weighing 65 grams that instantly punctured through and broke the skull toward the end of the video.

Depends, the 410 judge shotgun revolver send rounds only about 6 inches into gel and people still use it. In comparison to most modern day handguns however, yeah it can't match them but at the same time a 40# recurve bow was also used on this same gel block and also only got 6 inches, while on a feral pig it went all the way through, so I'm questioning the validity of gel tests since on living tissue everything seem to be getting vastly better results than the gel sais. Good testing medium, but definitely not realistic to tissue. (Also tried some pistol crossbows that have been used to harvest feral hogs, and they only got 2 inches into the gel)

@@newworldmartialartist7245 arrows typically don't do well in gel. I'm not entirely sure why. It's probably because gel isn't a perfect replacement for flesh. However there are standards for bullet penetration, and 6 inches ain't it. There is a reason the Judge is viewed as a gimmick. It's because it's ineffective by modern standards. You want 12-18 inches of penetration through clothes into gel to be in the effective zone for a bullet. Don't get me wrong, slings can absolutely be fatal against decent sized animals and people, but there is a reason they quickly fell out of favor for anything larger than small game.

@jorgi86 I agree with everything u just said, other than it falling out of favor. It was used for longer than bows, was invented prior to bows, and used all the way up into the Spanish Civil War to throw grenades. In comparison to a firearm in purely effect on target, 0 weapons compare to even handguns. However, even with just a 80 gram stone (a little smaller than an egg), a long sling used by a skinnier guy like myself can be launched 300+ yards. And with another video of mine against a ballistic head, just 66 grams launched out of a short sling is able to shatter the skull. Not including the lead bullets. It's completely free weapon, dead silent, and can have comparable (though still a little less accurate) accuracy to a bow if given training time of around 6 months, and ammunition is free, or u can make some long range ammo like these bullets that have blunt force ability and a little penetrating capabilities.

@@jorgi86 Slings didn't fall out of favor quickly. In fact, they saw use on the battlefield up to the 15th century. The army of the Castilian king had thousands of slingers in his army in 1386 (De Hoffmayer, 1982). The effectiveness of the sling on the battlefield doesn't seem to be why it fell out of favor. Instead, it's believed that the level of expertise required to effectively use the sling on the battlefield is what lead to it eventually disappearing from the battlefield. For someone to be extremely skilled with the sling, they needed to be trained from childhood to use it. Compared to the bow, it was just more expensive and more difficult to have trained slingers. Slings were extremely effective in themselves but on balance, it was just more cost efficient and quicker to have a bunch of people trained in using bows to rain down fire in the general direction of the enemy.

@@hereandnow3156 Slings were also used historically up into the first world war if memory serves correct, to extend the range of standard hand grenades. It wasn't widely practice but moreso born of out necessity in specific instances.

? Not saying it is a real story one way or the other (I personally believe it, but not everyone has to), the focus is on the power of a sling using lighter than normal projectiles. Thanks for taking time to comment and I hope u give the video a try 😊

My man. Sling length, technique, and projectile size all are factors. Plenty of historical sources from greek, roman period of people getting killed from a single sling head shot

sure, but the bible is pure fiction.@@ivanbarreras9445

@@ivanbarreras9445 Plenty of similar fantasy literature from Greek period too