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Mine was sold to me as pastazanum silver too, and it's the very same that is shown here as the sodiroi aff.

Hello Alicia, the key and obvious differences between the two are that P. Glorious, owing to the P. Melanochrysum parentage, is a climber. It has a central stem and will grow vertically, looking for something to climb such as a moss pole. P. Glorious leaves are also more elongated (longer) and pointed compared to P. Gloriosum. The P. Gloriousum is a crawler/terrestrial Philodendron which has a large and chunky stolon (stem) which crawls along the top of the potting mix, rather than climbing. If you drop me a message on Instagram (@waterfallplants) I can send you a photograph of my plants side by side if that helps. Cheers!

Hello Nhung, they seem to be different forms yes. You have Gloriosum 'White Veins', Gloriousum 'Zebra' and I have seen 'Pink back' too. It's worth bearing in mind that a lot of these are just names given to the plants by shops to describe specimens with certain characteristics. I actually have a P. Gloriosum 'Zebra' now which looks very different to a regular/dark/white veins form. I am not so sure about the 'pink back' as most Gloriosum show pink abaxials when new leaves emerge. Hope that helps!

This explains it pretty well: www.houzz.com/discussions/1972264/what-does-aff-mean

Sodirini are smaller Sodiroi with stunted growth, said to have been created by man. They won't ever get large leaves or truly resemble mature Sodiroi leaves. There are many more Sodirini on the market than Sodiroi it seems, but you might be fine just have to wait!

@@tomwaterfall5423 guess I'll wait up 🤣 Is a moss pole a 100% requirement to get bigger leaves?

@@iAdrianT I would massively recommend it. Leaf size will increase marginally with time without one but for best results I 100% recommend you either make or buy a sphagnum moss pole. Avoid coir as it doesn’t work as well.

Thank you!

agreed!

Get it out of any bright light, as over-exposure to grow lights can cause the leaves to turn lighter and yellower. You might lose the 'drooping' leaf if it's a recent import or has recently arrived in your care. If I was you I would focus on getting some new roots going by potting it up into some sphagnum moss soaked with a drop of Superthrive and getting it onto a heat mat. I'm actually going to lose the Sodiroi leaf shown in this video due to the plant arriving with pests, but I'm not too worried as it's putting roots out which is most important. Message me on Instagram @waterfallplants if you want any further help. Good luck!

@@tomwaterfall5423 So I actually went into work today and the droopy leaf perked back up. Don't know why. I don't use any grow lights. My plant was already pretty root-y, it had a load of roots, I got it from a FB group. Its just super yellow still. Hopefully moving it into a shady spot in my work space will help it darken with time. Just needs to acclimate I guess.

@@skankfaceBECCA Exactly, gotta be patient and often stressing and changing the conditions over and over can upset the plant more!

Hey Kyra, I would give it some time as I could be led to believe that the red petiole may be a maturity issue. If you message me on Instagram @waterfallplants and show me some photos of your 'true' Sodiroi I might be able to help with an ID. Thanks!

@@tomwaterfall5423 Thank you so much, Tom! I would love that. Unfortunately I don't do FB or Insta. So I'm at a bit of a disadvantage there. If we can figure out another way, I'd sure love a second opinion!

If you upload them to imgBB: imgbb.com and send me the share link on here I'll take a look for you :-)

@@tomwaterfall5423 Hey thanks so much! I made a post in my imgur. I think you can even add comments there! imgur.com/gallery/Eioiuw0

@@kyrad6543 Thanks Kyra, just had a look. I am not 100% sure on these but I think you could have a Philodendron Peltatum on your hands there. It has the leaf/lobe shape (close together and elongated) combined with the smooth green petiole that gives me enough confidence to say that it is not likely at all to be a true Sodiroi. Although lacking the red sinus, P. Peltatum is another species sometimes sold as a Sodiroi aff. I don't believe P. Peltatum has been properly described and there is little information about it online. Have a Google and see what you think but that's my best guess! I am going to consult a knowledgeable friend for you to get a second opinion too.

Where are you located? Seems like Gloriosum dark form/white veins/zebra (white veins with extra veining) are coming more available!

Hey Gioia, yes there are quite considerable price differences, you are very lucky! True plants are much harder to come by, particularly in the UK/Europe, and usually command a much higher price. In my experience, unrooted cuttings go for between £100 and £250 depending on the size.

Thats really interesting thank you very much for your information!! ☺️

Hi there! Good question but there's a few things to tell them apart. Glorious is most definitely a climber, I have one in my collection on a moss pole. It has a vertical growth habit and uses sulcate canals/cataphylls to grow vertically. The P. Gloriosum forms have a large stolon that will crawl across the top of the potting medium. Furthermore, and I know this might not be easy to tell with smaller plants, the P. Glorious definitely has leaves that elongate considerably when the plant is grown past it's small immature stage. The Gloriosum forms don't tend to have elongated leaves, they increase with size but stay round. If you have a search on Instagram for P. Glorious hopefully you can see. If you have any further questions give me a follow @waterfallplants and drop me a message and I can help!

Thanks for letting me use your photos Mella :-)

Some people call them ‘Philodendron Silver Pastazanum’ or ‘Philodendron Peltatum’ but really it’s an undescribed species that hasn’t been properly classified yet!

Yes that's a good idea. I need to get my head around them myself first though haha, so many out there!

I am glad you found it useful!