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AI news : The public sphere hates AI but these famous fortunes love it. Why ?
As traditional artists in the age of AI, it’s important to keep up with the zeitgeist and not let ourselves be surprised by a sudden turn of events.
In this video i’ll quickly review the most important recent news, and then talk about an interesting trend in the way important people respond to ai as opposed to the general public.
Lastly I’ll conclude about why the right take on AI art is far from the take you see people in the public eye espousing.
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Midjourney is trying to turn randoms into full-fledged artists
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It works like you’re seeing me do it on screen : you go to their website, rate a couple hundred images, and then once you’ve finished you can go to the discord interface and use the -p command to specify that you want to use the personalized function. Now I’m going to explore what this all means for us. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect thought-capturing app : napkin.one/?via...
Is AI Art morally good ? AI guy and artist's opinion.
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Is AI art morally good ? Are tools like Glaze and Nightshade evil ? The arguments for it are weak, very weak.In this video, I’ll begin by making every artist out there angry, and then I’m going to redeem myself by arguing the case that AI art is not morally good.And I’ll surprise you at the end with an unexpected twist, featuring Alan Watts. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect ...
AI guy predicts the future of AI in art + practical example.
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In this video we’re going to get a glimpse into the future of AI, and why it’s both worse than some artists say, and better than others do. I’m going to begin by sharing with you a very concrete, hands-on example of the kind of phenomenon we’re going to see in the years to come, and then I’ll give you all the lessons we should learn from it as artists. Become an insight collector with Napkin, t...
Why (and how) aspiring artists SHOULD use AI art.
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Personally, I will never use AI in a finished piece. And I say this as someone who makes art, but also works in AI research. But I still use generative AI every day, and look for every possible opportunity to do so. And if you’re an aspiring artist, it is vital that you do the same. There’s so many reasons for it, if you’re not convinced by the end of the video, I think you have an impressive m...
The empowering Chinese perspective on AI art.
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By all appearances, the chinese tradition of art seems much more resilient to the threat. Confident in their abilities, they aren’t at all afraid of being replaced. They’re experimenting with it more than us. And that’s very, very interesting for us western artists to learn from. This video is a golden opportunity for us artists to look at things from a refreshing angle, and I extracted 3 key l...
Artistic understanding and the generative AI paradox.
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I’ve just read a paper called “the generative AI paradox”, published by researchers from the University of washington. It provides a serious, scientific investigation of a big problem of generative AI as a whole. As someone who does art but also works in AI research, I found this paper incredibly insightful, and drew a big insight from it, that I think is going to allow my art to resist the AI ...
How the Old Masters would have beat AI -- 2 examples : Monet and Turner.
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In 2019, a painting of a Haystack by Monet (seen above) sold for 110.7 million dollars at an auction in New York. It is part of a series of paintings of Haystack by the famed Impressionistic painter. Here’s how he got the idea. Part 1 : ua-cam.com/video/MkP23HQ3rHQ/v-deo.html Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect thought-capturing app : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI
Have artists given up ? OpenAI-generated music videos, Tribeca Festival...
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In this video, we’re going to dive deep into the qualities of these video models, and see multiple reasons why Art with a capital A is safe from them. Lastly I’ll dabble into trying to predict how these models are going to pan out in the future. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect thought-capturing app : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI
We Artists are AI's Mother Nature...
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It’s about time we artists stop adopting the frame of mind that was given to us by the AI people. There’s another, more empowering (and more true) way of looking at things. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect thought-capturing app : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI
What will be the effect of AI on art ? -- Gems from the comments section.
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Let's learn all we can about AI art by thinking about it together :) Did Van Gogh have it easy ? Did he face no obstacles in his path to mastery ? Riddled with doubt because of an uncertain future, he lost faith in himself. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect thought-capturing app : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI
Glaze 2.0 : Protect your art against AI + AI guy explains why these tools are here to stay
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Many were completely refraining from posting their art online, for fear of their style being copied. But AI has a fatal flaw, called Adversarial Examples, one that the tool Glaze 2.0 is gloriously exploiting. With Glaze 2.0, you can freely post your art online without having to worry about AI mimicking your style. As an AI researcher, I have very good reason to think that these kinds of tools a...
Should artists practice copying in the age of AI ?
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As an artist, you may think that by looking at reference images, you’re behaving like an AI. What about training yourself to copy images ? Why is a human who can copy an image much more powerful than an AI who can copy an image ? In this video, we’re going to answer all these questions, and I’ll explain why it’s still worth doing all these things even in the age of AI Along the way, I’ll also d...
Artists, don't give up. There is SO MUCH left for you to say...
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It seems a lot of us have forgotten the vastness of art and the unpredictability of the human soul. In my opinion, this is ridiculous. We are not at all in danger. Not a single aspiring artist should give up on art because of AI. Let me walk you through why. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the perfect though-capturing app : napkin.one/signup?via=ArtPostAI
This Flaw in modern Science makes AI uncreative
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Science is an affair concerned with objectivity, testing, and peer review. What happens when this kind of thing aims at creativity ? Let's get into it. Become an insight collector with Napkin, the effortless though-capturing app : napkin.one/signup?via=ArtPostAI
Image Evolution : The next threat to Visual Artists ?
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Image Evolution : The next threat to Visual Artists ?
AI and the Dead Internet Theory : Are digital artists doomed ?
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AI and the Dead Internet Theory : Are digital artists doomed ?
Here’s why modern AI can never be creative.
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Here’s why modern AI can never be creative.
Young artists, save your careers.. Get back to the jungle.
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Young artists, save your careers.. Get back to the jungle.
Angry at Pink Floyd's AI-generated music video ?
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Angry at Pink Floyd's AI-generated music video ?
The Pain of AI art.
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The Pain of AI art.
When the three Masters clashed in Rome...
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When the three Masters clashed in Rome...
I found something while messing with Stable Diffusion...
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I found something while messing with Stable Diffusion...
OpenAI SORA news from artists.. It's disastrous !
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OpenAI SORA news from artists.. It's disastrous !
Invader -- The Quintessential AI-Proof Artist.
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Invader The Quintessential AI-Proof Artist.
OpenAI's Figure 1 : The Ultimate Threat to Artists ?
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OpenAI's Figure 1 : The Ultimate Threat to Artists ?
These are the last few years of art...
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These are the last few years of art...
Computational Creativity Is An Abomination
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Computational Creativity Is An Abomination
I made Stable Diffusion forget language....
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I made Stable Diffusion forget language....
The Dune people banned AI -- Frank Herbert was a genius.
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The Dune people banned AI Frank Herbert was a genius.

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @danielRpauls
    @danielRpauls 17 днів тому

    Im using glaze but I'm noticing how long it takes to glaze a single image. Any tips to make the process faster?

  • @Chibikurokun
    @Chibikurokun 21 день тому

    I'll consider it

  • @ArucardPL
    @ArucardPL Місяць тому

    5:55 I think this is what kinda killed my interest in AI art and lol, as crazy as it sounds I recently began to feel nostalgic about Midjourney v3 and v4 results as despite them being utterly flawed they had something interesting in them and made me feel like "Hey, I could do a drawing based on this". The AI generated stuff I've seen over this year usually just feels either too perfect, too polished, over the top rendered and maybe just too commercial looking. Like, don't get me wrong, it looks realistic and convincing to the point sometimes I can't tell it's AI but along the way it lost something that made it actually fun to use as a conceptualizing/brainstorming tool. It just feels like seeing an artist kid who had potential and a style going for them but eventually went to work on some mainstream AAA games on Hollywood blockbusters, sacrificing his personality for the mass-appealing commercial look. (And even when you try it to replicate a style it just somehow always "generalizes" the style and loses its quirks).

  • @mcore0007
    @mcore0007 Місяць тому

    If you can train a tool to do this programmatically you can train the AI to undo this or have a process to undo this programmatically before the images are fed into the AI it's a cat and mouse game

  • @mcore0007
    @mcore0007 Місяць тому

    That takes a lot of hubris to think mid journey is going to choose your artwork specifically and create a name and category just for every internet artist on the block. I believe these tools are very valuable for high level professional artists who's work fetches high prices on the open market or have made contributions to their field

  • @silversun1736
    @silversun1736 Місяць тому

    One thing everyone ( and I mean Everyone) should get clear… Under no circumstance should you underestimate Artificial Intelligence. It’s not if - but when - they reach another milestone. It’s only been around 5 years since we had viable Ai models and within a hairs breath, the models continuously evolve into the monsters they have become today. I repeat do not underestimate the ability of what we have created.

  • @fumomofumosarum5893
    @fumomofumosarum5893 2 місяці тому

    I don't hate AI art. I just hate people who use AI art and think they are some kind of big shot just because they pressed 1-2 buttons lol. You're not special, dude. You entered some keywords and let the AI do all the work, so calm down, Picasso...

  • @ceilingfun2182
    @ceilingfun2182 2 місяці тому

    So happy I found your channel

  • @rayman1611
    @rayman1611 2 місяці тому

    The why important people love AI? Us less important people are, what. This child is sick.

  • @AezlyndWanderin
    @AezlyndWanderin 2 місяці тому

    Napkin looks like a good tool. What I would love though would be a tool that lets you select any text and then copies it onto a card for you and has the source in your preferred bibliography style. It could also instantly search the web for earlier identical or similar phrases and allow you to view the results and choose one of them to site instead if you want. That would be a good use of AI.

  • @elisaelisaross
    @elisaelisaross 2 місяці тому

    "Refusing to walk towards the future is the only way to go extinct" could also refer to AI-generated images companies taking art from artists without permission nor compensation and getting sued. They can't keep existing like thism, they have to adapt to a future that care about the rights of human artists. Also, if AIs keep taking artists' works and creatrive jobs, artists will incraesingly either stop making art or stop sharing it online where there is the risk of theft by AIs, so the AIs can't grow their database further with new fresh meat and their resulsts will deteriorate. Also, it's funny that the actress you mention allows people to use her voice with AIs as long as they give her half of the money earned. There are plenty of artists whose style is copied and their artworks are used with AIs by people to make money online, but they don't see a dime. If their rights were protected and they could decide to give or withdraw permission, and they could recieve half of the earnings, AI would be much more loved.

  • @angriasianz
    @angriasianz 2 місяці тому

    Thx

  • @Amelia_PC
    @Amelia_PC 3 місяці тому

    "turn randoms into full-fledged artists" And I'm here thinking artists were considered randoms because society loves to ignore them. Have you seen the number of good artists ignored on Instagram, Facebook, X, etc? It tells a lot about what people think about artists. (yup, I'm an artist)

  • @MarkNiceyard
    @MarkNiceyard 3 місяці тому

    I didn't get anything. Everything here doesn't make sense to me. I guess the texts you're reading in the vids of this channel are AI-generated.

  • @michael_
    @michael_ 3 місяці тому

    Suno song at the end? :p

  • @Gleeb1776
    @Gleeb1776 3 місяці тому

    What happens running the same iterative re-encoding using a human-written compression algorithm?

  • @lodepublishing
    @lodepublishing 3 місяці тому

    Why not both... thumbnail drawing by hand to do the "thinking", have AI fill it to give it as a first impression to the client, gather feedback, adapt the thumbnail drawing if necessary, then work on the final piece.

  • @dustdune
    @dustdune 3 місяці тому

    As a probability engine, AI really struggles with perfection, and it will take a long time to this not be the case (maybe for ever). It's in the minor things as you said. A real devil in the details. That's why it is used in programming only when supervised. Some times correcting it's errors is more time consuming than implementing the feature yourself from the ground up, as these errors are made so masterfully hidden. That's the reason that it's not being seriously used in the health industry in large scale, or in law firms to right important documents. The devil in the details can kill a company if it is hidden in the wrong place, and there will be no one to blame. So a human must read, correct and sign below. Now. Think for a moment. Which endeavor is more perfectionist than art creation? How much you must describe your vision in a prompt to se it rendered as you envisioned it in the screen? An infinite prompt I would say. Than why not take your pencil and draw it? It will be easier. I assure you. If AI is capable to reproduce your vision perfectly, is this vision really yours? Great video. Necessary discussion. Cheers

  • @artoub8143
    @artoub8143 3 місяці тому

    really loved your breakdown of the advantages of hand drawing thumbnails!

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much I appreciate that !

  • @MarkNiceyard
    @MarkNiceyard 3 місяці тому

    maybe this is a good video :D

  • @MarkNiceyard
    @MarkNiceyard 3 місяці тому

    i guess you're saying art if you mean illustration throughout the vid.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Indeed there's a big distinction there. AI can already do illustration. The topic of this video (and channel tbh) is whether AI can step into art as well, and if so, in which ways. By knowing this, we can adapt and avoid personal tragedies

  • @noah8162
    @noah8162 3 місяці тому

    Man I hope you don't get shit on simply for being an AI focused channel, you value traditional art, and these blind raging anti-AI zealots might take away from interesting discussions to be had.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much. It's been alright so far tbh, apart from the like ratio pattern I've noticed :)

  • @ssr500_
    @ssr500_ 3 місяці тому

    Personalization? Midjourney is leagues behind local Stable Diffusion in terms of stylization, features and useful techniques. I should try it if you want to see a bigger picture

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Yes StableDiffusion is much more modulable and reusable. Actually in one of my recent videos I created a new use of the stable diffusion vae to make kind of abstract art. But it can't be argued that midjourney gives more aesthetically pleasing results. Most of the people I know of who advertise use of AI in industry recommend Midjourney. That's also because it's much more accessible to normal people, in particular artists.

  • @Bubblegob
    @Bubblegob 3 місяці тому

    Most artists are randos though.

  • @jeremyrobinson9660
    @jeremyrobinson9660 3 місяці тому

    I've thought about thumbnails and AI for a while and I think the the relationship is somewhat backwards. I'd love to be able to let AI take my thumbnails and render them. But instead its just rendering fairly boring compositions. This is a place where I think AI and artists could benefit from each other. Thumbnails are where a lot of the artistry can occur so even though you may be leaving the rendering to the AI, it still could be considered art that you made. You're just leaving the time consuming "grunt work" to the AI. Instead they're trying to go all the way to replacing artists and that doesn't appear to be working.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      That's a lightbulb moment for me, I'd never thought about it that way.. Thanks !!

  • @AZTECMAN
    @AZTECMAN 3 місяці тому

    On the point of comparing an AI image to a thumbnail, I hold that A) a thumbnail is fast, seconds or minutes rather than hours. [If it is hours to make a thumbnail, that is an interesting oddity] B) a thumbnail is not (usually) an end to itself. This is a choice of framing of how to view AI art, as a quick stepping stone in a iterative process. It doesn't mean that AI has value for any given artist. We have to sort of squint and assume value for this to even make sense to discuss. This choice of framing also doesn't say anything about AI replacing thumbnails. On the contrary, a thumbnail would make perfect sense as part of an img-to-img workflow (show me 100 loose-polish versions of this thumbnail). So in that case, the thumbnail would come first, then the renders, then whatever other process. I'll add, I'm beginning to doubt my own framework here, for reasons I won't go into just now. It's by no means a perfect system.

  • @AZTECMAN
    @AZTECMAN 3 місяці тому

    I'm not interested in MJ (for a dozen reasons), but I REALLY like this video. FASCINATING.

  • @poketopa1234
    @poketopa1234 3 місяці тому

    Coming from a completely sincere place, I think the arguments in this video as portrayed are in large part weak and illdefined. You claim that the researchers study if AI understands AI, as if AI is some monolith. The neural pathways used to produce images vs explain using text are entirely different, understanding high level reasoning of models is an open (unanswerable?) question. I think the reason why AI art feels hallow beyond aesthetics is that a large part of our enjoyment of art comes from our attempts to empathize with the feelings and thoughts of the artist across time and space. If we know that there is no artist we can relate to or find inhuman artifacts, the illusion is broken. Sorry for the rant, just putting my thoughts out there

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Looking back at the paper, I find that your point sort of stands to be honest. Since this was a peer-reviewed paper I went ahead with the video. What they really proved is that, purely from an outputs perspective, although the field of AI as a whole can generate better than humans, it understands worse. That one thing that lacks in their argument then is that maybe inside the black box of generative models there might be better understanding than in the models that are trained specifically for understanding (question answering, etc). So yea, thanks a lot for the comment !

    • @poketopa1234
      @poketopa1234 3 місяці тому

      @@ArtPostAI Yeah totally makes sense! Thanks for clarifying!

  • @maav12
    @maav12 3 місяці тому

    A diamond the rough, very nice!

  • @ZombillyBooster
    @ZombillyBooster 3 місяці тому

    Fuck AI. Period full stop.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      I agree that we don't need it and never did. This was true in the beginning of AI in the 1950s, and it still is today. Our human nature, competitiveness and short-sightedness have led us thus far. What a twisted situation.

  • @chubgp8009
    @chubgp8009 3 місяці тому

    Main problem here is the cost no? Spending an insane amount of energy to make meaningless stuff is a joke you’d see in a comedy not real life.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Completely grotesque. If I remember well, Microsoft's energy and water consumption have basically doubled since they acquired ChatGPT. At least little timmy can cheat on his math homework now ?

  • @L0LWTF1337
    @L0LWTF1337 3 місяці тому

    Here is the thing: In a world without capitalism, AI (or automation in general) would be an unquestioned good. Anything that makes work easier is on the face of it a benefit for society. But since you need to sell your work for money in this system, being replaced by a machine does not bring freedom, it brings starvation. For the sake of argument, lets assume that we only use AI that has been trained on artists who consented and were compensated for it. Still it would replace all the artists who did not work on the creation of that AI and all future artists as well. The same way nobody uses the Loom today outside of museums or Portrait artists outside of personal wishes rather than the norm for ever important person before the photograph. Which again - without the monetary incentive structure - would be fine. Only those make art by hand that actually want to. But they also gotta eat. AI just reveals that we already live in a dystopia and have only been taught never to question it.

    • @fellinuxvi3541
      @fellinuxvi3541 3 місяці тому

      No it wouldn't, perhaps some forms of work would be automated, but not all of them. The easing of work is not in any way an unquestioned good. Labor is our species activity

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      "lets assume that we only use AI that has been trained on artists who consented and were compensated for it. Still it would replace all the artists who did not work on the creation of that AI and all future artists as well" Agree with some nuance. It'll do as much damage as "unethical" AI. But replacing ALL artists is a strong statement. On the first paragraph, I agree with @fellinuxvi3541 : Automation of tiresome, dull work is good. The line between labor and meaningful activity is very blurry. You don't want to automate your meal at the restaurant, your guitar practice, your building of a lego plane or whatever you like doing that's hard. I think this dostoievsky quote captures it best : "Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, so that nothing but bubbles of bliss can be seen on the surface; give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself--as though that were so necessary-- that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar"

  • @phuonglinhpham9514
    @phuonglinhpham9514 3 місяці тому

    Just found out about your channel and it's so refreshing to see the perspective from someone who understands both sides of the matter! Keep up the good work! About "AI democratize art and empower anyone with a creative vision.." type of arguments, i think it stems from lack of awareness of the art creation process to the point of mythologizing it, from the general population. They attribute artists' greatness entirely to natural talent as if artists were Da Vinci-ing straight out of the womb of something, while ignoring the main factor: hard, grueling LABOR. Practicing & applying anatomy, perspective, stylization,... is hard labor, and those only make up the outer aesthetic of artworks. Where do they think "creative vision" even come from? It's the observation & contemplation of the world around them (which require much work to actually make it interesting/worthy of note), that can only be convey successfully through the understanding of the visual language, the medium, the culture, the context behind it. Which require research, study, practice,... aka LABOR. Therefore artists deserve fair compensation, not being dragged by people who wants to leech on them without putting in the work i said above. That said, i believe AI will eventually settle as a tool to accelerate the artists' process (brainstorming, rendering for digital art,...), whereas the conceptual aspect, art direction & precision would be of higher value in the future (as AI can't do it well)

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Thank you soo much ! That point about labor is SO true. Such arguments cannot come from the mouths of those who haven't gone through at least part of the mastery process in some discipline. My question is : is there such a thing as laboring in the use of AI art ? There are increasingly varied ways to use these models, and I don't see why we shouldn't be able to direct them with our bodies with a kinect, with our voices, or even with our brains (think direct feedback from eeg or something). With all these new techniques, will a kind of discipline emerge, where genuine mastery can be achieved in the creation of art exclusively with AI ?

  • @DLAXTOX
    @DLAXTOX 3 місяці тому

    there is no discrimination, if I made a computer intelligence, I would first use my cultural and immediate knowledge to build it and worry about the minorities in the society secondly.

    • @ZelphTheWebmancer
      @ZelphTheWebmancer 3 місяці тому

      "Your scientists were so worried about if they could they didn't stop to think if they should" -Jurassic Park

  • @DLAXTOX
    @DLAXTOX 3 місяці тому

    is gun good or bad?

    • @JohnJohn-yl4ko
      @JohnJohn-yl4ko 3 місяці тому

      A gun isn't a toy you know.

    • @DLAXTOX
      @DLAXTOX 3 місяці тому

      @@JohnJohn-yl4ko a toy is anything/instrument that is fun to use.

    • @JohnJohn-yl4ko
      @JohnJohn-yl4ko 3 місяці тому

      @@DLAXTOX and yet you still need to have responsibility when owning one.

    • @supayambaek
      @supayambaek 3 місяці тому

      @@JohnJohn-yl4kojust like any toy. You have the responsibility to other people to feel safe around it.

    • @JohnJohn-yl4ko
      @JohnJohn-yl4ko 3 місяці тому

      @@supayambaek that's right 👍

  • @AezlyndWanderin
    @AezlyndWanderin 3 місяці тому

    I disagree on the reason for the artist backlash over AI. It’s not because of a misunderstanding over how AI works but rather over an understanding that corporations are using AI to steal our work. Also the Industrial Revolution the person you quoted earlier is a false equivalence. The machines didn’t eliminate jobs they made them easier and those machines also required humans to operate and supervise the machines. For example, the lace weaving machine was both one of the first machines of the Industrial Revolution and is also a programmable computer. Yeah some of them are still in operation. It still needs a weaver to supervise the weave, a mechanic to maintain it. Someone to load the spools, someone to clean it, someone to program the punch cards that hold its programs, and more. In a way the Industrial Revolution actually created more jobs than it took away while still allowing industry to require less man power. Really the most prolific product of the Industrial Revolution was free time which was a foreign concept to the working class at the time. AI however is doing nothing to reduce the labor requirements of any humans or to make people’s jobs easier - if anything with the amount of incorrect and even dangerous information it has been spitting out it has actually made many people’s jobs harder. Add to it that the tasks it has been assigned are creative and informative tasks that people enjoy doing and helping others with and not mundane and labor intensive tasks and it’s easy to see why we are not happy with this AI revolution. The problem with AI is not that it’s inherently evil; It’s not and it’s not inherently good either. It just is. It’s the people operating and programming it that are good or evil.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Completely agree with the second part. About the AI rage thing, I'm still a bit suspicious. There are definitely cases where an employer will train an AI model on their artist's art and then lay them off. That's outrageous. But massive pretraining really doesn't rely too much on anyone's images being in the dataset. I believe we're going to see it once the copyright laws happen : the "ethical" models will be just as good, and we will find out that our anger response was just a doomed attempt to destroy something, while we should have spent all that energy adapting to it. So let's choose the second option :)

    • @fellinuxvi3541
      @fellinuxvi3541 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ArtPostAIThe thing is , there's no ethical way to steal. We can argue all day about how "inevitable" this is, but some things are worth dying for and some are not. Fighting against technology is usually not so, because it's not really evil, and there's no benefit to it, but AI is straight up making us less human. If all of society has to collapse in order to rid ourselves of AI, then that's a worthy price to pay

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      @@fellinuxvi3541 I love the energy. I think that's exactly what we need right now. Fire. "AI is making us less human" is a fascinating direction I'd like to explore. The truth of this statement has yet to be proven.. People have told me before that it has freed them in their art, and that they feel lighter than ever knowing that there is something out there that will always be faster and more performant than they are. All that's left for them is their humanity, which the machine doesn't have. So they focus on that. This is also partly my personal experience. I was freed from the pressure to spend months on a single piece, performing repetitive tasks to get the most realistic textures possible. It has made me more human in this way. But besides, I do not have a fatalistic view on the effect of AI on artists. My prediction is that anyone who was serving as a conscious rendering engine in a money-driven industry will likely have to integrate AI into their flow, or be in trouble with their money-hungry bosses. But for those who have more freedom to make decisions about their art, AI is no threat as long as we pay attention to it and grasp its character. But this resilient approach requires that we spend more time in the atelier. Do not go to the courtroom, arguing over copyright.

    • @fellinuxvi3541
      @fellinuxvi3541 3 місяці тому

      @@ArtPostAI I can agree that there are things AI cannot destroy. Even if it takes away artist's livelihoods, it cannot take the artist itself, but there are other problems: Freeing you from pressure and repetition isn't more human, it's less so. Human beings experience hardship, human beings take time and effort to build the things we do. To want easiness is not more human but less so. It's the process of art that helps give it meaning, to remove it is removing a part of humanity too. But also, it isn't just livelihoods that get taken away, it's connection. People in need of a piece of art won't need and won't engage with artists in order to get it, they'll talk with a machine. You're right that AI cannot take an individual's right to make art, even their capacity to do so, but art is not just individual in the first place. AI serves to sever these bonds. Also, the matter of copyright is still very important, because it has the power to determine the market value of the technology, which is extremely important to figuring out the future of this whole affair. It is relevant to question if AI can be ethically sourced, and wether those who write the prompts can actually claim authorship over the finished products.

  • @ArtPostAI
    @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

    As always, let me know your thoughts about this down below !! That's how we can move forward together. I always read and respond. I use Napkin every day for both research and personal projects. It's an effortless and fun insight collection app. Check it out right here : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI

  • @Rorschach1488_
    @Rorschach1488_ 3 місяці тому

    Fuck AI. AI is and will stay a niche thing just as VR is and will be. It's unnatural and humanoids don't dig it.

  • @j.0x00n4
    @j.0x00n4 3 місяці тому

    Good video. I'm an artists myself, and while i don't like the general idea of ai companies and how they've treated artists, I do believe there is something that can be found within AI, and that in particular is averageness. For example, I've trained an AI based on my own work, and it's surprising to see what the averageness of your own work is-it's really something between beauty and horror, or even sacred and profane.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Fascinating way to use AI. I keep seeing new ways people are subtly taking advantage of it to empower their own art, without actually using it in the finished result.

  • @catanimsi
    @catanimsi 3 місяці тому

    My theory is that art (the art that we make with our hands) will evolve. Just like it did when photography came out and artist who did portraits were replaced for cameras. Great video! i liked a lot the experiment

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely agree. This comparison is true on so many levels. Thanks for the comment !

  • @InternetPirate7
    @InternetPirate7 3 місяці тому

    Whats the music at 9:16 called?

  • @Q8Qofficial
    @Q8Qofficial 3 місяці тому

    If I understand correctly, AI doesn't like to make mistakes so doesn't like to repeat things. I wonder then if that is why the still frames over time "move" when put together as a video.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      I went over it a too quickly in the video. Maybe I can do better in text form. Basically here we're not using the AI in the way it's intended. What we're seeing is the AI's flaws being accentuated by running the model multiple times on its outputs. So if the model was perfect and making no mistakes, the image wouldn't move at all, it would be the same at iteration 1000 as it was before going into the model. But here we see the model constantly making mistakes because it isn't perfect at recreating the images. And the reason the frames "move" is because each error doesn't take us too far away from the previous image. So it kind of makes an animation. It's interesting that (to me at least) the smaller, lower-performance models allow us to get more interesting results this way than do the bigger, industry-ready models. Showing that as models get more "perfect", huge and industry-ready, they might also become harder to use creatively.

  • @ingrida1121
    @ingrida1121 3 місяці тому

    I honestly dont care about the future of AI, it will collapse eventually when it will start feeding itself its own images or poisoned images. What is the most sickening for artists is that they used our art without our permission to train their AI, basically stealing our art to recreate our style and copy our work to replace us. It is a question of copyright and ethics, not the future of art itself. Us artists will still be vastly superior no matter what, because AI will never be able to create art, especially now when a lot of artists glaze and poison their art images.

    • @lolcat69
      @lolcat69 3 місяці тому

      If you don't want them to use the free images you post for free on the internet... Then don't? Or try to protect the image in some way ( I ain't no lawyer so idk what to tell you )

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      @ingrida1121 I don't know about that collapse theory. It seems very unlikely that they'll just collapse and go away. In the best case scenario, at least the ones that exist right now are going to stay in use. But really, the only case I can see where things don't get at least a little worse is if AI companies run out of ways to keep up the "exponential" improvement they are advertising. (which seems to be happening actually). But that won't make anything collapse. It'll just keep it the way it is right now. I would take a more pragmatic standpoint akin to @lolcat69 (although with more nuance and less offensive phrasing^^) : As artists, we do not fight through laws and regulations, nor do we resist change or cling to common morality and idealism. Our main asset as creatives lies in our open-mindedness and ability to adapt. AI models are a reality, whether we want it or not. Let's start from there, and figure out how to stay ahead, not by moving away from the realm of art to the realm of law and argument, but using our pens, pencils, and more importantly, our minds, bodies and environment.

    • @ingrida1121
      @ingrida1121 3 місяці тому

      @@lolcat69 well, every lawyer can tell you, just because something is posted online, does not make it free. It's like saying, just because a song is uploaded on the internet, it makes it free for you to use it in a UA-cam video. In reality the channel will be copyright striked and deleted.

    • @lounirs
      @lounirs 3 місяці тому

      ​@@lolcat69okay so artists should remove themselves from the number 1 way to get recognition and find clients? You do realise it's not a realistic solution?

    • @Vengeful_Goan_spirit
      @Vengeful_Goan_spirit 3 місяці тому

      @@lolcat69 what if i download this video we all watched above and upload it under my own youtube channel and it surpasses the views it got here? isn't that easy to do? would you still think that is ethical? its free and available on the free internet.

  • @williamlevii
    @williamlevii 3 місяці тому

    Interesting. I'm not surprised that very small errors compounds into the total degradation of the original image. But I am surprised and can't figure out how the autoencoder loses "the plot" on a all white image or black image.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Here's my best guess : The last operation before the output of the vae is in most cases an activation function (tanh, sigmoid, depending on the case). These have asymptotes in black : 0 (or -1) and 1 : white. But being asymptotes they don't allow the model to reconstruct a perfect zero. So it'll be like 10E-7 or something. That's how we lose the perfect 0 or the perfect one (in the sigmoid case). And from then on in my mind there's no difference with the other images, the model makes little errors reconstructing these 10E-7 values, and overtime it compounds into shapes appearing and disappearing.

  • @laranjapera8825
    @laranjapera8825 3 місяці тому

    That's actually amazing! Also, what a great video. I hope more people come to know your channel!

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much for the support !!

  • @AezlyndWanderin
    @AezlyndWanderin 3 місяці тому

    From an analytical perspective it seems that the AI is seeking not to understand the art but to order it into familiar patterns that it recognizes and is comfortable with. It’s as if the machine suffers from extreme OCD and what we humans view as art it views as a complete disorderly mess.

    • @KamilDeKerel
      @KamilDeKerel 3 місяці тому

      thing also its that it'll never actually be able to predict anything, basing it on everything we already made you're literally confining it to our knowledge, they don't have a proper concept of futures and art evolution is impossible to be predicted

    • @AezlyndWanderin
      @AezlyndWanderin 3 місяці тому

      @@KamilDeKerel true. After all some human made contemporary art is literal sh*t in every sense of the word.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Very interesting points in this thread ! "AI has OCD" will definitely be in my thoughts for a while And that point about future prediction, I'd never thought of it that way thanks

  • @Rannalovewatchvideos
    @Rannalovewatchvideos 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for showing these examples! There was something strangely mesmerizing about it.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much ! Glad you liked it :)

  • @Rannalovewatchvideos
    @Rannalovewatchvideos 3 місяці тому

    Actually, the topic is quite triggering for me. As a person who enjoys art and was considering to become an artist, emergence of AI visual models broke my heart. I've seen a bunch of creative ways artists use AI to create art pieces such as paintings, digital illustrations and even works that look like movies... I understand artists who chose to use AI as a tool or integrate it into their art. But for me, it's still so uncomfortable to acknowledge the shift in the future of art. Except the ethics behind this, I'm saddened to imagine that over time we might lose genuineness and authenticity in art, which for me, are basically the reasons why I love the art in the first place...

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      I feel this so deeply. Even though I work in AI, I will never use AI in my finished pieces. In my opinion, abandoning art because of the existence of AI is a mistake and a tragedy. That's exactly what I'm trying to fight against on this channel. I believe we must adapt to AI and not ignore it, but the value of art isn't only in how fast, easy and visually flawless it is. I used to make art with painstaking slowness, taking months to finish a graphite drawing. Now I spend at most five to six hours on drawings, and I make them on highschool notebooks with a basic ballpoint pen. That's the direction AI has taken me till now. But giving up on art isn't an option :) The physical feelings of flesh, touch, struggle and pain are too valuable, too inspiring to give up. And even if AI exists, it doesn't negate human nature, and human nature requires flesh, touch, struggle and pain. These elements will remain, and a world where all art is quickly manufactured using AI as part of the process doesn't exist. Thank you so much for your comment, I really appreciate it.

    • @KamilDeKerel
      @KamilDeKerel 3 місяці тому

      imo ai is illigal and should be banned, we've completely destroyed integrity and original ideas with the idea that a computer could do better by combining everything anyone ever did and using it for profit it should be banned, its theft of intellectual property to a highest degree without having to claim responsibility of copy right problems, it's sickening and will destroy a lot of carreer paths, especially visual ones, companies don't care about what you studied if a computer can do anything you can for 1/1000 of the price, it's all sick and such a shame for humanity

    • @domovoi_0
      @domovoi_0 3 місяці тому

      ​@ArtPostAI beautiful work brother. Love and blessings.

    • @nati0598
      @nati0598 3 місяці тому

      The topic is quite triggering for me too, but for the exact opposite reason. I don't like those soppy people that think art is dead because a computer can make it. Everyone is talking about how art is about feeling and whatnot, but they don't seem to believe it. If they did, why would they care? It's not like their feelings are now forbidden? The only issue artists have with AI is not that it exists, but that their commisions aren't going to be sought after with the same intensity. You don't like AI? Then don't use it. You don't like AI art? Don't watch it. But all the people that just constantly whine about destruction of everything that's good, as if the world is ending. "we might lose genuineness and authenticity in art" how? Genuinely, how are you going to lose authenticity in art? Which art? The company logo art? That's already soulless. Or do you think that next time you take out your canvas or a drawing tablet, AI will just come out of your closet and start sucking your soul out? It's annoying. Nobody that makes art for the feeling would use AI.

    • @ArtPostAI
      @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

      @@nati0598 Wow. What a pragmatic opinion ! Your viewpoint is exactly what's required, and hopefully it becomes more common in the future. Thank you so much for inspiring me to be a bit more forward about this in future videos.

  • @ArtPostAI
    @ArtPostAI 3 місяці тому

    Another somewhat-technical video since you guys seem to like them :) Let me know your thoughts below, I'll read everything ! I use Napkin every day for both research and personal projects. It's an effortless and fun insight collection app. Check it out right here : napkin.one/?via=ArtPostAI