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Brilliant talk. I just have to note that the author of Laws of Form (mentioned at 59:10) , is not Stafford Beer but George Spencer-Brown. Even though Spencer-Brown and Stafford Beer knew each other and where both active in and around the first era of cybernetics and second order cybernetics. Two distinct and remarkable wizards ;)

This was great to have a listen to. It's nice to hear what they have to say rather than just reading it in books. Thanks for uploading.

Simply brilliant! The reincarnation of Wittgenstein

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Is there one in the north east of england?

Thanks for uploading this

Thank you so much!

Delightful! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Thank you for this wonderful audio recording

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this is scripture

If solutions become the problem...

very interesting

Who are the gang of six

what is this video about?

Thank you for the upload! :) a recording from watzlawick I didn't know :) If you have any more, they are warmly welcomed!

Thank you so much for having us! It was a wonderful event with so many thoughtful questions from a great audience

Very interesting and exciting - thank you!

8 minutes in and I can tell this guy is a great thinker.

Thank you Mark! My German is poor and this is the first English language recording I have found of Watzlawick presenting his ideas at lenght.

That is amazing. Thank you!

Thanks again Mark

Many thanks for uploading Mark - I am not sure I have ever found any Watzlawick in English.

haha yeet

Wasnt able to learn directly from them. Awesome!

Very inspiring, instructional and entertaining to listen to! Thank you for sharing this here!!

These are both amazing!! Thank you for spreading the wisdom.

Thanks, Mark -- Brian at his best, speaking seriously about humour/humor.

".. a gentle piece of humour ..." - " ... the more possibilities seem to open up ..." - ".. humour linked with creativity .." thanks for sharing!

Amazing man, thanks for uploading. Are there more?

Many thanks for the upload.

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Bateson received a grant to study the paradoxes of communication not the pragmatics of communication. This is not a trivial distinction. Bateson objected to the book 'Pragmatics of Communication' by Watzlawick et al because he was opposed to having his ideas as represented as being about the consciously deliberate manipulation of human beings even if done for therapeutic reasons. Bateson believed that the attempt by the conscious mind of the therapist to manipulate the spontaneous unconscious process of patient/s would in the long run be pathogenic if not in the short run. He believed the pragmatic approach to be based on what he thought of as bad epistemology i.e short term success through manipulating clients which only reinforced the pathogenic notions of power and control in relationships. Bateson preferred to be more non directive in his approach. This may have been for the reason that he was surprised that a Jungian trained analyst, who should have been aware that the conscious mind can never fully capture the full meaning of unconscious processes, would even ask such a question.

Thanks for sharing this !

Thank you very much for sharing this recording ! :)

Love the "we're not waitresses" bit. Can't wait for part 2! 😊

wasnt comfortable crotchet ride

Why wouldn't any sensible musician striving to earn their corn?! - established songwriter/royalties via Sam Smith: (straight to no.1 on the USA Billboard top 200!!!) Intermittently, Mr James always returns to his passion of Jazz, in various bandleader ensemble roles.

Very lovely. I think that her emphasis on grace and respect, as well as the ancient quality of the craft also calls forth an exploration of how this relates to the Way of Council work from the Ojai Foundation (and beyond) that some of us are trying to take forward and wider.