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Really great listening yo you guys talk trench,there is a list builder,if you type trench crusade list builder into google there is a site you can use and it works(not as well)but like the age of sigma app(I actually saved it to my phones home screen so it basically works like an app now)

Much appreciate the work your doing. Helps a newbie like me out a bunch. Keep up the good work!

Have been looking forward to this!

Vorax are Banelings-on-steroids of Mechanicum setup. Fast, tough for the cost, can shoot while closing in and they have Atomantic deflectors, which makes them go boom really hard in the face of krak-grenading marines)

As a casual Nords player, Thank you!!!!

i think onslaught drones are the worst unit we have in our army, i'd take force grown over them any day of the week with a node

Great content as always!

The Clockwork Hoplites sadly still can't be inspired. The rule that denies it went from the Phalanx to the Automaton Special Rule.

Excellent insight, thanks dude!

I think having it parallel the fallen divinity mechanically and flavorfully would be intriguing. Animated Vessel that is pumped up by prayers (and maybe select units dying) and has a beneficial aura that expands

I may be mistaken but I believe you still get a defense roll if your stat is reduced to 0, because modifiers are applied after the roll. If you didnt get a defense roll when your stat was reduced to 0 rules like deadly blades couldnt trigger The exception to the rules for dice is to prevent "un-cleavable" naturals rolls of 1 because in all other scenarios a 1 is an automatic success You functionally have no defense roll because you cant roll a 0, but in practice you still need to roll them in some scenarios (like deadly blades and rules like it that trigger on natural defense rolls of 6) The rules state that if your defense stat is 0 you cannot PASS a defense roll. You still make them technically, we as players just typically save time by not rolling

I play dweg and started conquest about 6 months ago. I am not a fan of the update, to me it is a meh update that did not address issues I have with dwegs play style. The change of the flame berserks I feel made them worse if you want to run an MSU of them, I run a 5 stand of them with a character so it does not so much effect me. I am who cares on vangaurd on warriors, it is a bonus to pure temper builds but otherwise I am reaching for Initiates because D4 and R3 base is so nice or Wardens because m6 gets me 13 instead of 16 and I have cleave 1. Best change is the inferno automata being A6 means they can now threaten lightish medium units and elite light units better, yes I am looking at the bow chosen. Magma forge... I have no horse in that race. Thanes, I love thanes it is just hard to take them in a list. You mention that you feel most people shoot with Dweg and then charge, I am more of charge in and then shoot into combat because I play a lot vs Cav, Brutes and Monsters so stopping their charge is very important. Even then I do not go heavy on shooting. Minor gripe, aura of death for dweg is still odd if you try to stack it. You best case is to get a unit or Herald of Magma and a Memory of Breath to get to a 7 vs doing the same with Gifted in Fire caps you at 6 which is odd to me. Gifted in Fire in fire might be good in a unit of wardens or someone that cannot get a Herald of Magma but it seems odd to me. If feel Dweg are to coded as dwarf and that limits there creative space when they really are not dwarves in anything but how they look and grudges.

What game rules do you find the Dweghom don't interact with in the same way as other armies? I found that an interesting perspective and I couldn't see where it applies. The Hold Reagh had had his army ability removed. He used to being to the Tempered Creed I think, but there was definitely an army rule that included him. Now that's been removed it makes the choice of him as the warlord even less desirable. Even more so when he has to be the warlord if you take the Iron Drake. I don't like being forced down the route of Magic and gun lines but at the moment there isn't really any other viable option. For me, my Dweg army has been shelved apart from the occasional outing as it just doesn't give a good game play experience either playing them or facing them. It's one of those lists that's been nerfed so many times that it really needs a top to bottom overhaul.

Chariots in CS are a bit of an outlier by virtue of being one of only two shooting platforms in the army, and the only one of those two that can score a zone. CS just doesn't have any alternatives. Why CS didn't take many brutes is another story, Haspists and Thyreans are both very competitive. On monsters in general, they're paying a bit of a premium for something that doesn't show up on the spreadsheets: maneuverability. They can fit into smaller spaces and they're easier to pivot. Top level players don't need that kind of advantage.

Been playing conquest for a couple years now, have yet to see your channel until this update. Love this video style and having you go over and sharing your thoughts. As a new SK player I greatly appreciate this content. Can't wait to see the other videos.

I enjoyed your take on the Spire. The change to the desolation drones is good but the highlight for me is the catabolic node. It's a must have for FGD and it pairs really well with the other abilities. I can't see myself detonating it by choice I thick I'd keep it as a kick in the face for when they die. Makes FGD msu lists viable and they become a really effective speed bump

Unfortunately the Initiates can't be used to cast rituals as most relevant rituals specify "Spellcaster Character Stand". Conflagration doesn't, but of course, there's nothing the Initiates can actually cast. Leo has said on the Discord that they aren't planning to change the wording on the rituals further for now. :(

Initiates look interesting, i think the only other unit we have is the Mahut.. looking forward to the new unit deep dive video, clockwork hoplites looked cool too

The changes to OD are good, they tone down last year's buffs slightly and they open up more build options with the core rules changes. I was disappointed that only Wads and Nord got a complete rewrite in time for the new core rules update. Having to wait up to 6 months for the rest of the army lists to be updated rather than just tweaked is a pain. I don't think you will see any more Moroi in play, the limit to 3 actions really hampers the Translocation spell. They effectively have 2 possible free actions and 2 regular actions, but the 3 action limit really hampers what they can do.

The one thing I think can be really valuable from Khere’s is that you can barrage and cast in the same turn. And this can in the right circumstances be very powerful

Great analysis and insights as usual. Thanks for what you do to support our hobby

Thanks for the coverage of the changes!

I agree. The changes are for the better for OD and the game. Very excited to test things out.

There was a period where Skaven players were locked out of their rules because their battletomes did not ship but the army got paywalled in an update. Honestly, it just turns me off from the GW main games completely.

...this guy and his Librarian...

KT is cool but it's not nearly deep enough to replace 40k as the main tournament game. With 10th edition 40k is pretty close to a tournament game these days. Stream line anymore and it will become a board game, kind of what KT is.

I feel like I wasted my money a bit on my sk models only the flamecasters + dual maharaja are really balanced/competitive right now

Minor thing and it doesn't change your conclusion, but didn't the Spires list include a Brute Drones unit too?

Interesting way of analysing the lists. Thanks for doing that!

Re: Hellcannon; Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows...

I like the Force Grown Drones. The Underspire is pretty durable. You should run a Pheromancer, Biomancer and high Clone Executor with it. Large units of Brute Drones with healing, combined with a huge unit of force grown drones that heals and two 3 stand units of Styx are good. I recommend adding some archers too. The Directorate is very good. But want to win early. The elite version isn't that great because most of the units you'd want to run, like sentinel incarnates, Centara Avatar and Leoniin Avatar don't need the buff. The monsters in spires both need more HP and the Siegebreaker is slow.

In my opinion monsters and brutes have low HP for the cost. Monsters need more HP for the cost.

Thanks for the detailed analysis. Found the spreadsheet especially interesting

I definitely appreciate the Karyitids, so nice to have a non restricted alternative to play with and maybe take more kanephors

Just rechecked the web page and the points are reversed. The Tontorr is 330; Dumbeast 310.

Late to the party but infantry squads with the feral warriors axes can really punch up if you are running beloved of the people and time it right. Huge Go turn

62 square feet of zone mortalis and 3 1250pt infantry armies for it

Eagerly following the channel for your 30k and Conquest content :) i love the channel, keep it up!

Awesome news, absolutely love your 30k content and can't wait for more. Glad everyone is doing good and congratulations to Dan and his family !!!

This must be the first channel update video I've seen that doesn't bury the lede and immediately reassures us in the title. Kudos.

Can't imagine what inspired GW on launching on their new editions betting on the success of an amaxon prime lotr adaptation

I watched, unfortunately, and the thing that made me angry is that they wasted my time. I could have just looked at the articles after it was done and actually learned more than watching. (Though not very much more)

great to see your review Dan and hear your thoughts. I'm a huge fan of Uncertain Scenery having met the designer at a few shows to learn about the designs! I have several of the satellite dishes for a future themed table project plus a windmill - lots of ideas for the building kits down the line. I never considered using the buildings to transport/display armies at events.

I'm starting to get into conquest and decided to join using the "newest" army.

In Spokane WA. . . They play Conquest and Marvel Protocol on Thursday. . . It has full leagues for both with prize pool tournaments and multiple vanguards. They play 30k in the gym across the street, and 40k almost daily. All the stores i know hade x wing, legion, Armada, and the rest of Star Wars die out. Historical like bolt action, flames of war, and the rest have died out too. BattleTech has a following, but like always 40k is most popular, then AoS, conquest, and 30k.

I could see them doing Sorcery Kings and City States flyers. . . A clockwork gyroplane and a born of air sorcerer or rider and caster combo on a magic carpet which is common lore for both steam punk and Arabian Nights. Also I think flyers should be able to charge. Not fight but do impact hits on other flyers.

I am in my early 30s and started historicals when the pandemic hit. For me, they present several advantages: model agnostic, evergreen rules sets, can use a variety of rules sets, narrative focused, more of a social experience than a true competitive experience. At least that has been my experience. As I get older, I am skewing towards games that lack the churn. Horus Heresy falls into this because it is much more slowly updated and not competitive driven. Conquest is my competitive/finger on the pulse game because of how sheerly accessible and intuitive it is.

An airborne Biomancer or Pheromancer. They could be mounted on a bigger stryx like creature. STL optional weapons for Incarnate Sentinel’s (broad axe/ sword).

Seeing the clockwork hoplites on pre order i want an ancient greek robot army

Terrain should cost points, because nothing should be an auto-include and listwarping. Take the Skull Altar of Khorne: It's AWSOME as long you have a Priest on top of it, an infantery Priest... a Priest that is a ... Just take the ONLY priest that actually can sit behind ... and you end up with a SLAUGHTER PRIEST in all lists... also you need a wizard/priest to play the game for no reason. But then again the game is awsome, actually so good, that even the bad indexes (they are badly written for sure) still result in a good game.