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Frank Rood
Приєднався 17 тра 2012
Cracking your old Sentry Safe (without destroying it)
A friend of me lost the combination to his safe and asked me to open it. I like a challenge so I gave it a try, with success: an open safe and a retrieved combination. This video describes my approach to open the Sentry Safe by John D. Brush & CO Inc. Rochester, New York U.S.A.
If you lost the combination and you want to get it open again, this video might be the solution to your problem. Thanks to the great comments I recieved I now assume the normal dialing sequence is left-right-left (counterclockwise-clockwise-counterclockwise). In the video I start with right (right-left-right). That works too if you want to crack the code. However if you already have one or more numbers, I recommend you start with left as the first turn (3x), then right (first until 'click'', then to the number, then left to the number. Don't overshooot the numbers; if you do, restart at first turn left (3x), etc. Good luck!
PS: i changed the current combination of this specific safe, so the combination in the video is not valid anymore.
If you lost the combination and you want to get it open again, this video might be the solution to your problem. Thanks to the great comments I recieved I now assume the normal dialing sequence is left-right-left (counterclockwise-clockwise-counterclockwise). In the video I start with right (right-left-right). That works too if you want to crack the code. However if you already have one or more numbers, I recommend you start with left as the first turn (3x), then right (first until 'click'', then to the number, then left to the number. Don't overshooot the numbers; if you do, restart at first turn left (3x), etc. Good luck!
PS: i changed the current combination of this specific safe, so the combination in the video is not valid anymore.
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Thank you for this video! I had a Sentry safe, basically the same one sitting in my office for about a year now cause I didn't want to drill it open, and thanks to this video I manipulated it and got it open! Very insightful
Can you do a day lock with this
The safe I need to open is almost identical, it seems to be same model, just a little older. It's been in the family for so many years, unopened, no one can remember who's it was, much less the combination. I look forward to finally getting it open. Chances are, it's empty or has documents in it, as no one in the family had any assets that were important enough to bother remembering.😂
you take to long
Howbdidbu figure out the first #? Most of mine are inbetween. 70-74
Thank you. My safe was already open, and I didn't know the back cover came off, so was able to figure out the combination by watching the slots line up.
You also didnt show how you come uo with 41.5 /7.5/82 bc yiu didnt get that combo by searching the gates like you showed in the beginning. Becuse all of the safes stoo on those same flase gates you showed in the begging. So you either new the combo alredy or found it in a different way that you didnt show
This isn't true, bc mine does the samething in the exact same numbers
144 combinations assuming you found the gate correctly.
I'm lost
Ok makes sense till you go from 24 for 1st number and 15-18 on 2nd ect after 2 tries some how you go straight 82 then 41.5 then 7.5??????????? Makes no sense to me, bro??? How did you go from 24to 82and 15-18 to 41.5???????? Everyone arent Einsteins seriously
What model is this?😂
There are 12 false gates, but 13 holes for that drive pin in wheel 3. So I wonder if that gives options of offsetting the pickup of wheel 2 and therefor making wheel 2 have more than 12 possible gate positions. Wheel 1 I am assuming to be identical to wheel 2, so would have an offset of the 12 positions, but fixed at factory.
This video was so hard to understand can somebody explain
Do you have a video if the safe is open with no combination?
Hi Frank. I am so happy to try your technique. I’m a bit confused but I’m sure i can do it even if it takes time. I have the same model that was my parents and they don’t remember the combination. When I was younger I got a bike lock the 2nd try but that was just luck. I have been interested in opening locks since then. I will let you know how it works out for me.
Do you have the links to the other videos that you mentioned?
If you get bored of trying the correct combo there is a reverse combo that will open the safe same fixed gates just reversed. Just sayn
This is where the 3rd wheel metaphor came from?
Fascinating and impressive. Very enjoyable. Thank you.
If you still have this safe. Reach up in the top left of your safe (or just look up there)-- you will feel a couple of tracts: that black tray in the bottom of your safe is supposed to slide in those tracts and hang from the ceiling like a drawer. I have the same safe as you.
Does anyone know the name of this model? I have this same one and I can't seem to find any info about it at all.
if they wouldnt have had the false gates, it would be more secure. With the false gates as you explained it was only 144 combinations. If there were no gates you could find the last number with 100% certainty but it would leave the other two wheels at 10000 combinations. In other words, their 'security" did exactly the opposite.
Is there a certain website that would generate all of the posible combonations?
I just physically busted one of these open. White powder launched out of it. What is it?
How can I find a combination with where the testicle scope the thing to listen to your
What happens when theres a difrerence of 4 for all false gates, so its impossible to differentiate what the 3rd gate is?
Appreciate it that you have shared your knowledge so that I could try to open my sage for which the numbers are forgotten.
I hope things work out well for you Zarook! Best regards, Frank.
Thank you 🙏 It’s the clearing 3 times left to start that was my problem also.
Cofre muito fraco Não tem disco falso
So Do spin till i hear the first gate and push the handle down,to get the numbers? then continue spinning till I get the next numbers?
Great Video! I have the same exact safe cemented in my house. the home owner gave us two possible codes and neither worked. I found this video and was excited to see there may be a way to crack this using the gate discovery method you present. I ended up finding what I believed to be 12 gates, used the middle number in each gate, and eventually came up with a excel spreadsheet list of 122 possible combinations. Unfortunately I couldn't get the safe open still. wondering what I could have possibly done wrong? I guess its possible I didn't get the gates correct and thus the combination list was not accurate. My hand was getting tired from resetting the dial each try and maybe that ended up The interesting thing is that one of the codes on my spreadsheet was the number the previous home owner provided to us...strange. I'd pay a locksmith to get this open if the safe can still be used....maybe I'll try this entire process again and see if that works at all.
I'm determined to get this safe open. I went through the dial 3 times carefully and recorded the number ranges and have my spreadsheet..so far no luck....starting to think either the safe is broken, or maybe I'm dialing the codes incorrectly.
Ever figure out the problem?
Nobody wants to pay me to do this anymore. they just want me to drill and repair it. I think part of the problem is safes are so cheap now and can be bought anywhere now.
I'd pay a reasonable amount
It seams like I can write all 100 numbers down when I do the test, Where do i start on the dial for the test?
Hi Jake, Thanks for your question. Which test are you referring to? I would expect when you try find the possible gates, you end up with less than 100 numbers, in my case I ended up with 12 numbers. Best regards, Frank
@@frankrood8464 i can find the two gates but 3 no
@@jakeblack212 If you have the first 2 numbers for the first 2 gates, then you can indeed try out 100 different positions for the 3rd gate. Which is doable. Probably you'll find the right position before you tried all 100. Hope this works. Frank
i smell dutch
How much pressure do you push down on the handle?
Hi Jake, lightly, just rest your hand on the handle, no additional force. Of course, it depends on how old, lubricated / dry / rusty the mechanism is. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Frank
@@frankrood8464 I got my safe new in 1979
if get the first 2 number the 3rd is easy
Thanks for this detailed video. It was interesting to watch someone who isn't "an expert" in combination lock manipulation to solve this through reason. I'm new to these locks, but I pick pin tumbler locks as a hobby.
Nice hobby William, have fun! Frank
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Thanks so much. I am working on a similar sentry safe. I was wondering if you discover why you got a second click that clued you into the second number. I may have missed it in the video. While looking at the mechanism were you able to reproduce that situation?
With trying out all remaining combinations (3rd wheel on one value and varying 2nd and 1st number), I found 2 occurrences where the second wheel was on the same number (see video minute 13:45). There the handle outside could be moved a bit further with a different sound, the 'click'. Indeed when you look at the inside mechanism this is what you see: the 3rd wheel has an 'open gate', so the latch slides in, and at the same time the 2nd wheel has an 'open gate' to allow for the latch to slide in. The latch than hits the 1st wheel after some movement and provides the click sound. Good luck with your safe. Frank
Would it be possible to just knock out the hinge bolts (like a bedroom door) and walk the door open?
Nope. The bolts are protected and cannot be reached.
My brother in law loaned me his safe door, to practice with. It's just a round section, for an old floor safe. It has 4 numbers. The way the fence, or latch is designed, it's at an angle, so you can only figure out the last two numbers. There is no way for it to touch the first two wheels, to hear it hit a gate. You can feel and hear, when it catches the next wheel, but there are no false gates. You just have to know where to stop for the first two numbers. Since it turns so many times, to get the next wheel's gate to line up, it always pushes the latch out of the way, and never comes close to the gates, on the first two wheels.
Quite a challenge Mark. Did you get it open in the end? Frank
@@frankrood8464 It is just the lockimg mechanism. It isn't on the safe. It's just the door. It seems impossible to hear or feel the the firs two number. From feel and noise, I can figure out the 4th and 3rd numbers. Since it rotates so many times to catch the next dial, the other number dials never touch the gate or fence. So I believe it is a well designed safe lock. You would have to drill a hole to see from the front.
Thank you. We hadn't used the safe in some time. Hubby had a memory of a range of three numbers that he said made a math equation when I continued to query him and I played with the dial. As it turns out those three number ranges were standing out, along with a few others. But as he finally given me enough clues I used those numbers as a careful range to dial to that I remembered dial locks use. Clear right 3 times, left to the number, to the right passing the second number once and then left to the last number. Yet I had to turn to the right to have it pop open. Just like the directions said on the combination card that was inside. I began around 2330 and popped it open around 0100.
Well done!
Great video! I'm curious: how big (diameter) are the actual wheels in the pack compared to the outer rim of the dial?
Hi, thanks! The diameters of the gate wheels are about 60% of the largest diameter of the external dial.
We bought a safe at a yard sale years ago without the combination. I have tried a few times to open it. I think it is a big assumption that gates 1 and 2 will fall in line with a false gate on 3.
My assumption is the opposite: the numbers don't align. And gate 3 is not false. Did you watch the video? I hope you get it open. Kind regards, Frank
@@frankrood8464 I did watch the video. My tumblers were a little more advanced but after an hour or so I got it open. I found a couple of numbers that felt different and with some trial and error it worked,
@@hlyautey Great! Well done!
@hlyautey N0 thank you nor apology for telling the man he was wrong when he wasnt?
@@lilbear19601 I never said he was wrong. I got my safe open and his video helped. My wheels have slots cut in them and false gates are every 10 numbers. It was more difficult. Now you owe me an apology.
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Hello
I have the combination and still can't get this safe open
i have a meilink safe model 82-86594 without combo how do i figure out how many sets of # it is?
Hi Danielle, I am not familiar with the model you mention, I am sorry. You could try the proposed strategy on your safe and see if it works. Is there anyone reading this who has more information on this Meilink safe? Kind regards, Frank
is meilink safe the same as sentry
Thank you Frank. I had to do some searching to find out how to open my dad's old safe. The combination was correct, but clearing the lock for zero was the problem. In these older models one must clear the lock from 0 going to the left (counter clockwise) 3 FULL times, on the fourth a person should go straight to their first number. Next, they should go to right 1 FULL turn passing the first number and going to their second. Finally, they should turn the dial left again to the third number. The trick is in the clearing the lock to zero to start over. Newer models go opposite of this combination. Also the gears inside should be greased 1 time a year. It says with a graphite penetrating oil or light household oil. The plate is held on by one screw so easy to get to. I hope this helps someone else. Finding the answer was a pain.
Thanks a lot for figuring out the original sequence! I also hope this helps others in their persuit to get their safe open. Kind regards, Frank
Amanda I am really really grateful for your comment. I had the same problem, and today after a year of trying combinations I read your comment I could finally open my grandfather's safety. He is so happy right now and all because of you. Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
You are a Saint! We've been trying to open my dad's safe for at least an hour and I tried looking for an indepth video. I was listening while scrolling through the comments and found yours. I tried it and worked 1st time! We had the combination but we couldn't get it to open. I can't thank you enough for your clear instructions! ❤