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Welcome to Veiled Kingdoms with Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester! We have four simple goals for this channel:
1. To restore a supernatural view of Scripture,
2. To Reveal the supernatural world around us,
3. To train Christians for supernatural warfare,
4. To show Christians how to engage with pagan supernatural views.
Thanks for stopping by!
You can reach us at: kevin@veiledkingdoms.com
1. To restore a supernatural view of Scripture,
2. To Reveal the supernatural world around us,
3. To train Christians for supernatural warfare,
4. To show Christians how to engage with pagan supernatural views.
Thanks for stopping by!
You can reach us at: kevin@veiledkingdoms.com
Who Is the Satan in Job 1-2? Devil or Divine Accuser?
In this thought-provoking episode, Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester dive deep into the mysterious figure of "the Satan" in the opening chapters of the Book of Job. Was this figure the same as the devil, the serpent from the Garden of Eden? Or was "the Satan" simply an accuser filling a specific role within the divine council? This is a question that has puzzled biblical scholars and theologians for centuries, and today, Kevin and Grant aim to unpack it from a biblical and theological perspective.
As we explore the identity of this intriguing figure, we will start by setting the stage with a review of Job 1-2. These chapters describe an interaction between God and a figure referred to as "the Satan" in the heavenly realm. This being, often misunderstood or misinterpreted, plays a significant role in the testing of Job’s faith and integrity. But who exactly is this "Satan"? Is it the devil-the same being that tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden and continues to wage war against humanity in spiritual warfare? Or is this a different figure altogether, perhaps a member of God's divine council fulfilling an assigned role as a heavenly accuser?
Is "the Satan" in Job the Devil?
Many Christians automatically associate the term "Satan" with the devil, the rebellious being who opposes God and His people throughout Scripture. There is no denying that later biblical texts, especially in the New Testament, present Satan as the ultimate adversary of God, but is the "Satan" in Job the same figure? Kevin and Grant carefully examine the Hebrew term used in the text-"ha-satan," meaning "the accuser" or "the adversary"-and how it functions in this ancient context. We will look at other instances in the Old Testament where "Satan" appears to act more as a role than a personal, evil entity.
Understanding the Divine Council
To grasp the full scope of who "the Satan" is in Job, we must first understand the concept of the divine council. Throughout the Old Testament, we find references to God presiding over a council of spiritual beings, often referred to as "the sons of God" (see passages like Psalm 82 and 1 Kings 22). In Job 1-2, we see "the Satan" participating in this divine council, almost as if he were fulfilling a judicial role within God's heavenly courtroom. Was this Satan simply an accuser-part of a legal process in the divine order? Or does his behavior here hint at something more sinister?
Is "the Satan" a Title or a Name?
One key question Kevin and Grant will explore is whether "Satan" in the Book of Job should be understood as a proper name or simply as a title-meaning "accuser" or "adversary." While the New Testament clearly identifies Satan as a personal figure (the devil), the Old Testament usage, especially in Job, seems to point more toward a functional role within the divine realm. Could it be that the figure in Job 1-2 is a divine prosecutor, serving God’s purposes by challenging the faithfulness of humanity? And if so, does this "Satan" later evolve into the personal, evil being known as the devil in later Scriptures?
Theological Implications of the Satan in Job
As we unravel the identity of "the Satan" in Job, Kevin and Grant will also explore the theological implications of this figure’s presence. What does this reveal about the nature of God’s sovereignty and the testing of human faith? How does the relationship between God and this heavenly accuser fit within the broader biblical narrative? Could this divine council member be part of God’s sovereign plan to refine and strengthen His people through testing and trials? And how does this challenge or affirm traditional views of spiritual warfare, where the devil is seen as the ultimate enemy?
Conclusion: Devil or Divine Accuser?
By the end of this video, we hope to provide clarity on whether "the Satan" in Job should be understood as the devil, the ultimate adversary of God, or as a distinct figure serving a particular function within the divine council. This discussion will not only shed light on an ancient mystery but also provide valuable insights into the way Scripture portrays spiritual beings and the dynamics of spiritual warfare.
Join Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester for this engaging exploration of one of the most mysterious figures in the Bible. Whether you’re a seasoned theologian or a curious Bible reader, this video will challenge your understanding of "the Satan" and his role in the drama of Job. Make sure to subscribe to the New Heart Theology channel for more in-depth discussions on biblical theology, spiritual warfare, and practical Christian living.
As we explore the identity of this intriguing figure, we will start by setting the stage with a review of Job 1-2. These chapters describe an interaction between God and a figure referred to as "the Satan" in the heavenly realm. This being, often misunderstood or misinterpreted, plays a significant role in the testing of Job’s faith and integrity. But who exactly is this "Satan"? Is it the devil-the same being that tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden and continues to wage war against humanity in spiritual warfare? Or is this a different figure altogether, perhaps a member of God's divine council fulfilling an assigned role as a heavenly accuser?
Is "the Satan" in Job the Devil?
Many Christians automatically associate the term "Satan" with the devil, the rebellious being who opposes God and His people throughout Scripture. There is no denying that later biblical texts, especially in the New Testament, present Satan as the ultimate adversary of God, but is the "Satan" in Job the same figure? Kevin and Grant carefully examine the Hebrew term used in the text-"ha-satan," meaning "the accuser" or "the adversary"-and how it functions in this ancient context. We will look at other instances in the Old Testament where "Satan" appears to act more as a role than a personal, evil entity.
Understanding the Divine Council
To grasp the full scope of who "the Satan" is in Job, we must first understand the concept of the divine council. Throughout the Old Testament, we find references to God presiding over a council of spiritual beings, often referred to as "the sons of God" (see passages like Psalm 82 and 1 Kings 22). In Job 1-2, we see "the Satan" participating in this divine council, almost as if he were fulfilling a judicial role within God's heavenly courtroom. Was this Satan simply an accuser-part of a legal process in the divine order? Or does his behavior here hint at something more sinister?
Is "the Satan" a Title or a Name?
One key question Kevin and Grant will explore is whether "Satan" in the Book of Job should be understood as a proper name or simply as a title-meaning "accuser" or "adversary." While the New Testament clearly identifies Satan as a personal figure (the devil), the Old Testament usage, especially in Job, seems to point more toward a functional role within the divine realm. Could it be that the figure in Job 1-2 is a divine prosecutor, serving God’s purposes by challenging the faithfulness of humanity? And if so, does this "Satan" later evolve into the personal, evil being known as the devil in later Scriptures?
Theological Implications of the Satan in Job
As we unravel the identity of "the Satan" in Job, Kevin and Grant will also explore the theological implications of this figure’s presence. What does this reveal about the nature of God’s sovereignty and the testing of human faith? How does the relationship between God and this heavenly accuser fit within the broader biblical narrative? Could this divine council member be part of God’s sovereign plan to refine and strengthen His people through testing and trials? And how does this challenge or affirm traditional views of spiritual warfare, where the devil is seen as the ultimate enemy?
Conclusion: Devil or Divine Accuser?
By the end of this video, we hope to provide clarity on whether "the Satan" in Job should be understood as the devil, the ultimate adversary of God, or as a distinct figure serving a particular function within the divine council. This discussion will not only shed light on an ancient mystery but also provide valuable insights into the way Scripture portrays spiritual beings and the dynamics of spiritual warfare.
Join Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester for this engaging exploration of one of the most mysterious figures in the Bible. Whether you’re a seasoned theologian or a curious Bible reader, this video will challenge your understanding of "the Satan" and his role in the drama of Job. Make sure to subscribe to the New Heart Theology channel for more in-depth discussions on biblical theology, spiritual warfare, and practical Christian living.
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Psychedelics and Demonic Encounters: The Spiritual Risks of Altered States
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In this compelling and eye-opening episode, Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester dive into the increasingly popular conversation around psychedelics and their impact on the spiritual realm. Many people today are turning to substances like psilocybin (magic mushrooms), DMT, and ayahuasca, seeking enlightenment, healing, and even connection to higher consciousness. But what are the real spiri...
Talmai and the Anakim: Giants or Divine Rebels (or Both)?
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Join Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester in this deep dive into the cryptic figure of Talmai, one of the lesser-known but fascinating characters in the Old Testament. In this episode of Veiled Kingdoms, we explore Talmai's role as a descendant of Anak, a race of giants known as the Anakim. Together, we unpack his appearances in Scripture-from his mention in Numbers 13:22 to his final defea...
Chemosh: Moab’s Fallen God and His Biblical Downfall
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Welcome back to Veiled Kingdoms! In today’s deep dive, we’re peeling back the layers on a lesser-known figure from the Bible: Chemosh, the fallen god of the Moabites. While Chemosh might not be as well-known as some other biblical characters, his story is pivotal in understanding the spiritual battles that play out across the pages of Scripture. In this video, we explore the biblical references...
Idolatry Today: What Modern Idol Worship Really Looks Like
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In this insightful and thought-provoking episode, Pastors Grant Forrester and Kevin Laymon, joined by special guest Dr. Stephen Ganschow, delve into a topic that often goes misunderstood in modern Christian circles: the reality of idol worship in today's world. While Western Christianity has largely internalized the concept of idolatry, often equating it with the internal attitudes and affectio...
Og, King of Bashan: The Last Giant of the Rephaim
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Join pastor Kevin Laymon and explore the towering figure of Og, King of Bashan, a giant in the Old Testament narrative who looms large both physically and symbolically. In this episode of "Veiled Kingdoms," I, Kevin Laymon, dive deep into the life and legacy of this enigmatic king, a remnant of the ancient Rephaim-a group linked to the mysterious Nephilim, the offspring of fallen divine beings ...
Talking Idolatry: Why It's Never Just About Loving Something Too Much
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In this thought-provoking discussion, Pastors Grant Forrester, Kevin Laymon, and special guest Dr. Stephen Ganschow, delve deep into the biblical understanding of idolatry, revealing it as one of the most dangerous and spiritually dark sins described in Scripture. Unlike the common contemporary view that idolatry is simply about loving something too much or placing too much importance on materi...
The Forgotten Gods: Reclaiming a Biblical View of Idolatry in Today's Church | Genesis 31 | Deut 4
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In this compelling and thought-provoking video, Pastors Kevin Laymon, Grant Forrester, and special guest, Dr. Stephen Ganschow delve into a critical issue that has silently crept into the Western church: the loss of a true, biblical understanding of idolatry. They discuss how contemporary Christianity has, in many ways, reduced idolatry to a mere focus on material objects, such as money, posses...
Jesus vs. Lesser Gods [Elohim]: Reclaiming the Disinherited Nations at the Cross
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In this compelling discussion, Pastors Grant Forrester and Kevin Laymon delve into the profound biblical narrative of Jesus taking back the nations that were disinherited at the Tower of Babel. According to the Scriptures, at Babel, God dispersed humanity and assigned the nations to lesser spiritual beings, often referred to as "gods" or "principalities" in the Bible. However, these beings led ...
From Physical Giants [Nephilim] to Spiritual Warfare: How Jesus Fulfilled Joshua’s Mission
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Join us (pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester) in this enlightening and thought-provoking video, where we explore the profound typology between Joshua, the mighty leader of Israel, and Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world. The journey begins with the Old Testament figure of Joshua, who led the Israelites in their conquest of the Promised Land. These conquests were not merely battles agains...
Jesus as True Divine Wisdom: Replacing the Ancient Lies of Fallen Gods
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Join Pastors Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester in this enlightening exploration of how Jesus, as the true wisdom, dismantles the deceptive teachings of the fallen gods that permeated ancient cultures. In this video, we delve into the profound message of the Gospel of John, highlighting Jesus as the ultimate truth that counters worldly and false wisdom. Throughout history, humanity has been influ...
Jesus Defeats the Chaos Dragon (Death) and Provides Life to Humanity
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In this enlightening video, Kevin Laymon and Grant Forrester delve into the profound truth of how Jesus Christ defeats death and offers abundant and eternal life, providing the ultimate solution to humanity's death problem. As we navigate a world consumed by death, fear, and uncertainty, the message of Jesus as the life-giver stands as a beacon of hope and salvation. Drawing from the rich narra...
The Tower of Babel: Yahweh's Judgment and the Rise of Fallen Gods | Genesis 11
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Join Pastor Kevin Laymon and Pastor Grant Forrester as they dive deep into one of the most intriguing narratives in the Bible: the Tower of Babel. In this video, we explore how the events of Genesis 11 led to the scattering of nations and the appointment of lesser gods, or elohim, over these nations. These elohim, originally assigned by Yahweh to guide and protect humanity, ultimately turned ag...
Dionysus at the Olympics: Understanding the Dark Influence Behind the Parody
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From Nephilim to Demons: The Unclean Spirits of Ancient Hybrids
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When you live in India you KNOW what idolatry is.
I bet! The western culture, for the most part, has no idea
@@VeiledKingdoms Very often walking on the street is fraught with the risk of stepping on lemons and flowers offered to idols. Have to be very vigilant to keep from touching unclean objects.
I would add in Matthew 16:21-23 Jesus says to Peter "Get behind me, Satan!" when Peter apposed Jesus prediction of his death. He rebuked Jesus' word. Same as where you refered to David using Satan to describe opposition
Yes sir! That’s coming up in this series! Thank you!
I LOVE this channel all the way from South Africa
Thank you for the encouragement brother! It means more than you know! Blessings!
At 13:24 You may have misspoke but God did NOT give the Satan authority to take Job’s life. (v2:6) He specifically said “save his life or spare his life” i.e you can touch his flesh but cannot kill him. The Satan could only go as far as God permitted him.
Good catch! Yeah that was just a misspeak and we appreciate you clarifying. The Satan was NOT allowed to take Job’s life. I’ll look later this afternoon and see if I can fix it. Thanks!
Ok, I said it was gonna be good, and, oh, I was soooo right: Grant finally deciphered that Blizzard is the Antichrist and Kevin impersonated ha satan with the voice of the red one from the Powerpuff Girls. I am in a bliss! 😂😂😂😂😂 But no, seriously now (I'm laughing so hard I'll try) Great introductory episode! Job is fascinating! And about the translations (one of my favorite topics since I tapped on the waters of translation, non biblical, just tv shows and movies), I just can't understand some decisions made in current translations in any language. In my own, brazilian Portuguese, in English, in spanish. Come on, dynamic translation should be in order to help the reader, not to hide intel in sometimes terrible word choices. I stand with the position of this ha satan being The goober on tights. (😂) Because he's really pushy on Yahweh. (We have to admit, he is courageous!) Yesterday, in prayer, I had what I'm gonna call an epiphany with God, and the take out from this encounter was the reminder of how terrible our Lord is! It's mind boggling that some folks even try to use the word of faith to "declare" anything, to the Eternal and All Powerful creator OF ALL things there are. What kind of words can we say to the All Knowing God? Come on, I'm losing my thoughts in divagations... Sorry. An addendum: why is this translation so pricey? I almost had a aneurism only by looking at the prices on Amazon BR. 😮 Great Episode, from thumbnail to content! ❤ Love you guys!
Yeah it really is crazy how translations will hide what is blatantly there! Glad you liked my Satan voice 😂. Awesome “epiphany” in your quiet time. I think we see that idea develop even further in Job when God is like, “How dare you question me.” Which translation are you talking about that is expensive?
@@VeiledKingdoms A Satan voice to the books! Hahahaha Yeah man, I got really overwhelmed by His presence, only the word 'terrible' would describe (poorly) what it was like! About translations: dear translators, please, stop thinking we're dumb dumbs and just put what's on the text, with the exception of when REALLY interpretation is necessary, thanks! I have several bibles in my personal library, most Portuguese clearly, but also have a KJV (just restored it, it got really beautiful) and a CSB (which I like, but I HATE when they put verses on the footnotes instead of just signaling whatever they want to let us know about a verse. Mark 11:26 is a good example. (I'm not a KJV onlyist, please, my main language is Portuguese, I just happened to inherit one and find the wording much beautiful!) I always wanted a NKJV, but couldn't buy one so far. The pricey one is the LSB Grant uses, am I correct? I love the way it reads when you guys quotes it, the use of Yahweh I think is Awesome, but it is expensive and apparently hard to find. The cheapest I found was the hardcover for 200 hundred and something in my currency (Brasilian Real). My CSB I got for less than 50. (Why do I talk/write so much? Sorry!)
Yeah the LSB can be expensive. I use it too. I’m actually the one that turned Grant on to it! 😂 I think there are some hardback versions that are significantly cheaper!
@@VeiledKingdoms oh, my man, in my currency there's no word for cheaper hahahaha
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There is this funniness to me where I feel like there’s a general assumption that the type of people that talk about these topics the way y’all do, are not the type of people that tolerate video games like overwatch and World of Warcraft, and although I imagine you have very nuanced opinions on both of those games, the fact that you’re even willing to reference them shows that yall aren’t cultural retreatist
Haha! Fortunately and unfortunately, video games are a rather large part of my past--particularly before Christ. I don't love all the history there, but they're definitely woven into my understanding of the world. On a side note, it's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine when Christian content creators act like they're above it all and can't relate to the things going on in the culture. I'd prefer to be known as a guy who can relate, but still hold things at arm length when necessary.
What is y’all’s opinion on the date or time In which Job was written? A lot of people like to say it was one of the oldest books in the Bible, which would mean this is older and maybe less defined than Hebrew thought would be near the end of the Old Testament. I heard other people are you that it was written closer to the end of the Old Testament, I’m frankly not sure where I stand. in reading the book earlier, Job references the scriptures or gods word or something like that, which leads me to think Jobe may not be the earliest book written as I heard a good amount of teachers. Thoughts?
@AIADPodcast I hope this is an okay means of response. This is an excerpt from a paper I wrote in seminary on the book of Job and I had a subsection that dealt with the dating of the book. Here's a copy and paste from that (I would still stand by this view): The Book of Job is widely regarded by many conservative scholars as the oldest book in the Bible, predating even the writings of Moses. Although the exact date of its composition remains uncertain, evidence suggests that Job was written during the time of the patriarchs, around 2000-1800 BC. Several factors support this early dating. First, Job’s wealth is measured in livestock rather than coins, which aligns with the patriarchal period, similar to how Abraham’s wealth is described in Genesis. Second, there is no mention of the Mosaic Law, the nation of Israel, or the priesthood, indicating a time before these key developments in biblical history. Furthermore, Job’s lifespan of over 140 years also reflects the long lifespans typical of the patriarchal era. The literary style and language of Job are ancient, using Hebrew forms that suggest an early date of writing. Additionally, the book contains references to natural phenomena and creatures, which are described with a level of detail that reflects an ancient worldview. Taken together, these factors make a strong case for Job being the oldest book in the Bible, offering a unique glimpse into the early history of God's interaction with humanity.
@@VeiledKingdoms this is excellent
Ohhhh this will be good!
@Glaubermoledo I hope so brother!
While I would understand someone in ancient times doubting if this is the serpent in the garden, I think it is obvious now that he is. He slanders Job's character and is proven wrong, twice. Even the Lord says that it's without cause. If this is a spiritual being just doing his job, he needs to be fired asap.
@DrDeacon I would tend to agree with you. Grant and I are "divided" on this issue. I understand where both sides are coming from, but I like the way you worded it--they may not have known at the time, but we can look back now and see (as with many things in the Old Testament). I don't know if you heard me mention it, but we're going to do an episode where we hash this out and present both sides. I would imagine that will come up relatively soon.
Interrupting Grant so much during this episode was very distracting. I appreciate and love this work very...just a note from a loyal listener with the intention of helpful feedback.
Yeah that’s good feedback. It’s actually something we’re working on. I (Kevin) have a tendency to get a thought and want to get it out while it’s relevant and Grant has a tendency to not realize how long he’s been talking without coming up for air. 😂 We’re working on that chemistry with some signals and stuff. We’re trying really hard not to be too scripted but there’s a price to pay and a learning curve for that.
One thing I could never wrap my head around is why the beings or "sons of god" or any other failing or flawed "angel" has no chance for redemption or forgiveness? Was it just more was expected of them or their sins were more deliberate? Why are we the only beings worth saving?
Yeah that’s a great question that I’m not sure we can get a complete answer to this side of heaven. I think some of it lies in us assuming elohim have the same “type” of nature we do. It’s definitely worth exploring. I’ll put it on our list to address in the best future.
Caleb and Joshua were in Canaan collecting pagan heads like crazy. I’m studying the Book of Joshua currently, so this video perfectly aligns with my studies time-wise. Thanks!
Dam… I’m 7min in, wondering if antibiotics count under farmakaya (I know I bootied that spelling, I’m not a spellologist)
@Nutterbutter123 My gut response would be, "No." Most antibiotics don't alter the chemistry in your brain that's responsible for "thinking and perception." I'm not an MD so I can't really go into all the science behind it without significant research, but I think they'd be in an entirely different category. Blessings!
@@VeiledKingdoms thanks, God bless! First time seeing your show, I can easily see this growing. Being Christian and also considering the “woo-woo” side of spirituality- have you heard of the podcast called Confessionals? Great content and interviews regarding people’s testimony with cryptids, spirits, aliens, and heavy research into conspiracies. The interviewer as well is Christian and the other shows affiliate outwardly express their Christianity. Your channel is right up my alley
@Nutterbutter123 Yes! I've listened to Confessionals some. I definitely don't binge it because it's slightly too far in the unhinged direction for my personal preferences. 😂 But I've listened to a scattered amount of episodes and enjoyed it!
@@VeiledKingdoms very understandable. I’ve had my experiences so that’s why I lean into these testimonies. Nonetheless, great stuff bubbas and I look forward to more
777 subscribers...that's cool
Haha! Yep! 💛
Lol. You're wrong. Christianity is the dark spirit. It's trauma based mind control created to hide the truth about who you are and control you. Deep down you know it's true, but the threat of hell keeps you from asking questions. Would a loving God want to be worshiped under threat of punishment? How would you feel about a person that acted like that
Thank you so much for sharing your opinion!
@@VeiledKingdoms No problem. Ii was hoping you'd give a reason for your beliefs. The Bible commands it after all...
@travissimpson7829 I stopped trying to change people's minds on the internet years ago. Watch our content. Don't watch our content. Learn something. Don't learn something. We don't care. Blessings!
Ok. This may probably have been one of my favorite episodes so far, because it hits home. So this may be a long comment (this is me pretending my comments are tiny and concise 😂) 1. As you guys already know by now, I was diagnosed with degenerative bipolar disorder, literally my brain was melting because I can learn and hyperfocal intensely on any activities I'm interested in, as languages for example, without letting go of everything else around me, which differs me from ADHD. So, I'm on four different psychotropics (meds) right now, one for each effect that the main problem causes. I was very scared in the beginning, but thank God, my main hyperfocal point has always been Jesus and the faith. But, oh boy, am I dreaming and having other experiences now: a loud yes! And there's always dark corridors, bathrooms, filthy places, I visit in these dreams (which btw, I've heard it has been a theme around the world with many people experiencing the same environments in dreams or even visions). But, my doctor is a good one, and is always paying attention closely to me, especially because he knows about my faith. What I want to say with this essay: it changes the way you think just as the double doctor said. Doctor's words, not mine. 2. South and Central America, as I said before, is filled with psychedelic experiences on many of its religious practices indeed, with the use of even alcohol as a "altered state of mind" in order for the entities they worship to enter their bodies, with permission, and sometimes without permission, just as you talked about the player of NFL ( I'm bad on sports, so maybe you were talking about a golfer and I haven't noticed 😂). Ayahuasca use in Brasil caused a huge polemic not so long ago, because the son of a famous actor/comedienne consumed (in a cult like sort of, with other celebrities) the equivalent of a tiny dose of coffee and literally entered a psychosis state that killed him. (I think you get how he was removed from earth). Why I comment on that: I agree, the enemies of our souls have changed the gameplay, an update that almost no christian pay attention to. 3. To sum up this petit comment: I hang on to Jesus, but in a day like today, for example, it seems my brain will explode of information, so I see myself recurring to an extra dose of meds, and cry to the father in prayer. It's a sad state of mind, but at least, I'm aware of who I am in my Lord and saviour! Let's pray for those who are being deceived by this filthy worldly system. Love you guys!❤
@Glaubermoledo Has anyone ever told you that you're hilarious with a great sense of humor? Your comments "trip" me out--where you're trying to be funny of course. I'm glad this episdoe was so beneficial to you. Mental health is a big deal in all cultures and I think we need to rethink it some from a Christian perspective. I mentioned in another comment that I'm starting a "spin off" channel soon that deals with mental health issues from a Christian therapy perspective where I want to dive into more stuff like this!
@@VeiledKingdoms Yeah! I've been told that many times before! 🤣 A Brit friend I made on Reddit says that all the time via WhatsApp hahahaha But thanks! (I know when I'm trying to be funny btw, just never know if the joke lands 🤣) But that's a great idea! We've been dealing with a lot lately, and it's very very good to have a godly perspective on the battlefield of our minds! It's life saving! We're in a pressure pot, the beginning of sorrows is already behind us (more like in the midst sorrows by now) and the raging war against our souls is getting intensified every minute! You know I'm down to any channel/series you make! God has a work for you, and I fell that for me as well
Riveting Content, handsomer men
@Axelfoley554 Lol...ok...love you my dude.
The medication conversation would be super cool for the future since I feel like so many people I know are on medication but don’t have a path of recovery where they are at
@AIADPodcast Yeah, I agree. We'll have to figure out how to fit it under our umbrella, but definitely a conversation worth having. I also have a "spin off" channel coming soon that's going to deal with counseling/therapy/mental health issues from a Christian therapy viewpoint. The conversation might be more suitable there.
Wow, This channel hits on many things in my past! Hatman, psychedelic's etc.. Praise the Lord that I found this channel. Thank you!!
The Hatman is a terrifying proposition to me. I hope I never meet him.
@@VeiledKingdoms I hope you never do either!!! He tormented me as a child. I was brought up in a drug filled house, I guess I was easy pickings for him.
@mis5080 I'm genuinely sorry to hear that. I have listened to quite a few account of people who have encountered him and it sounds awful. I'm sorry you had to endure that--particularly as a child. Have the encounters stopped in recent years?
@@VeiledKingdoms Thank you! The hat man stopped in my early teens when I moved out of my Mothers house but, my son started to have them in his childhood. I was into the new age and thought smudging etc would solve it but, it never did. When I started to dip into psychedelics I started to have a talking wolf in my dreams that would scream at me "what is six?" have no idea what it meant but, came to Jesus and it stopped. Praise the Lord! My son still has trouble sleeping and he is in his 20's now. He will not tell me if it is still the hatman anymore. I pray for his salvation everyday.
@mis5080 Thank you so much for sharing. I will pray for your son as well. The stories God allows us to forge on our way to a relationship with him are often dark, but always for our good. I have no doubt God will use your story to comfort others.
Great show. This channel is very underrated
@real_Hamilton Thank you brother! We'll keep grinding out content and see what God does!
Finally! 😅
@Glaubermoledo Haha! You act like we didn't just post on Sunday! This is our routine schedule with two days between publishings. 😂
@@VeiledKingdoms 🤣🤣🤣 It's too much time! It's hard to wait! Hahahaha (My sense of time is down the drain 😂)
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I always imagined in the bible that the child sacrifices were like this: people are throwing gun powder on the ground and there's a big fire and stuff and there are spiced aromas in the air the kings are sober minded without blinking going along with child sacrifice because they are evil and stuff. But when you all mentioned Chronological Snobbery it made me think "Maybe it wasn't a sober minded decision." And the idea that they were potentially tripping on drugs really becomes compelling.
@ItsTheFireFox That's a really good point that I had not considered. Because you do wonder how someone could get to the point where they were willing to sacrifice children. But psychedelic drugs would certainly account for that--or at least aid in the decline to that point.
Did getting a doctorate teach Stephen to be so direct and articulate or is that just who he is?
@Gianni116 If I had to guess, I would say it's a mixture of both the education and being constantly thrust into situations where he has to be articulate.
Come on! I need new episodes in order to keep sanity!😂
Tomorrow!
@@VeiledKingdoms thank you Jesus!
Not sure where you guys came from, but you're already pretty polished and the content is excellent. Looking forward to the channel getting big.
Thank you my friend! The encouragement goes a long way! Blessings to you!
In the bible while Moses is leading the Israelites through the desert, God instructs him to create an idol of a bronze serpent on a staff (which later on became the medical symbol). And he says anyone who looks upon this image will be healed. Is that not idolatry?
@real_Hamilton Yeah, great question! This is definitely something we plan on addressing in a future video because there's a lot going on here. Not only do you have them looking to a created image, but they are also looking at a serpent, a nahash that's also made of bronze (which uses the same Hebrews consonants as nahash). My short answer (understanding this needs extensive development) is that it's not idolatry because there's no divine being attached to the statue. Turning to the staff to gaze at it isn't necessarily worshipping the staff--it's simply looking upon, right? It's interesting that you bring this up because your argument could make our point even further as an example of where physical objects apart from spiritual/demonic expectation isn't qualified as idolatry. Thoughts?
great names for children 😂 😝
@maranathasos3381 😂 That's wasn't in the notes...haha...
Man, I'll start (maybe today) a rerun of the bible (the one it belonged to my father and it's finally restored) and my eyes are even more open than already were to the biblical narrative! Come on! And to think that these spirits are those who still linger around today, fighting against Yahweh's people still! Amazing video, brother! Thanks!
The Bible is the one resource that’s always worth a rerun!
@@VeiledKingdoms true! And several reruns actually! It never ceases to surprise not only with blessings, but also with the literary discoveries we keep having! By the way, I found a KJV that belonged to my father as well (as you see the bible mania runs in the family hahaha) and it's also getting revamped. Maybe I'll record a video for UA-cam showing the pt-br one from '62 and the KJV '78.
OSM (old school mentality) I'm down for it! JMAC FTW on this one! BTW, no hate, love your channel and subscribed!
@xboxallin2953 Thanks for stopping in my friend! Yeah I'm a big fan of John MacArthur. He might be one of the greatest Bible teachers of all time and he had a profound impact on my life. This video was not such intended to be a rebuke, but a "step away now before you do something or say something in your old age that undoes the wildly impactful life and ministry you've had so far." Thanks for stopping in, and for the support!
Would Hercules be a Nephilim in Hebrew thought? Like a Demi-god?
@ItsTheFireFox If Hercules was real, and I'm pretty convinced he was, then yes, he was a Nephilim. 🤔
Excited to hear you guys talk about the conquest of Canaan and the connection between that and the existence of these fallen beings
@AIADPodcast We are too brother! We'll do a whole series on in at some point. Since you're a regular watcher, what's your feedback on the "solo episodes"? Good and helpful? Or should we stick to putting our time into the dialogue?
Yes!
I don’t know if it’s copyright infringement, but can we get T shirts that say New York Rephaim
I already gave an ideia for a merch on the video about Ephesians hahaha! Let's make merch! 😂
@Gianni116 Haha! We have merch coming soon. The idea was that we'd kick off merch in celebration of 1000 subscribers if we ever get there.😀
@@VeiledKingdoms come on... If? You will get there!
@Glaubermoledo That'll be a great day! What are your thoughts on the solo episodes? Helpful, or should we stick to only investing in the dialogue episodes?
@@VeiledKingdoms I just made a comment about it, brother, but I find them very good! You're a natural with the camera and storytelling. (I'm good at storytelling, but cameras are still a struggle for me! 😂) They're nice and needed! The episodes, I mean! I'm loving it!
Just as I've told you on the other video, I've been feeling the battle on my mind and standing firm, so he attacks the surroundings. Yesterday (Aug 31/24) it started as intrusive thoughts and accusations out of nowhere, so I quoted Romans, but it continued... I sat down on the room I watch you guys, pray, read, rest... Is a room/office/home cinema. I was in the dark and the Holy Spirit moved me to speak aloud for his presence to fulfill the apartment. Went to the kitchen, washing the dishes it came again. I closed my eyes, felt all the power of Jesus, and with eyes still closed, raised my hand, walked towards the kitchen door, and commanded whoever it was to depart, in Jesus name. The intensity was such, that the cat meowed and the dishes that were already washed and put in place, moved, and I got confirmation that it went out. It has been years since things like that happen. But, as I told you, because of my body, and the meds, I had a difficult night, even in dreams, and today was no different. Just sharing with you, brother! Because: "I don't give up an inch of this battleground" T-shirt, cap, merch, now! (10% for the idea and we're good😂) Love you! Have a blessed Sunday! Keep praying for me!
@Glaubermoledo Thank you for sharing your story, brother! I'm sorry God has given you a tough body to live in. We're praying for you, and that you are sustained in the One who calls you according to his purpose! Merch coming soon! haha...
@@VeiledKingdoms Thanks for the love, brother! It's as Paul says, his strength is perfected in our weakness! I glorify The I AM for having such grace and love towards me, even in the struggles (believe me, there are many! 🤣). The joy of the Lord is my strength! Amen!
God could shut down fallen Gods in the past… so he can do it still today 😎
@AIADPodcast Yes sir! (or mam 😂...i have no idea...i know that like 90% of our viewers are male, so it's a safe guess)
Been watching these videos for a bit and am having trouble wrapping my mind around these topics. I'm used to viewing the other religions pantheons as fictions and fairy tails and certainly not used to seeing angels as gods. Where in scripture should I read to better understand the perspective you're using?
@jssketch You are absolutely asking the right questions. It was a bit of a jolt for me as well when I started studying this stuff. I was in the EXACT same boat as you--I had always just considered them fairy tales, myths, lore, etc. The guy that primarily began studying (the late Dr. Michael Heiser) began his journey in Psalm 82. Psalm 82.1 says, "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment." So there you have God in a council with other "gods." This doesn't mean that there is another creator or gods equal to Yahweh--it just means there are other elohim--other created spiritual beings that exist with Yahweh. That's the starting point. That's where we started this channel. I'll link the playlist below so you can check it out if you haven't already. I'm also happy to continue interacting with you here if you have further questions.
Here's the playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLNhHFGfsyuK-LwLwq55ang71rScBASM9W.html
I'll be watching as soon I finish formatting a PC! Yes!
Thank you bro!
@@VeiledKingdoms and all of a sudden I got notified of comments again, thanks God. Kevin, what a day my brother, full of blessings and miracles and in the night I felt hard that I was being thrown to spiritual warfare inside my home. Brother, pray for me! The Lord, I'm sure, is refining me, and the enemies of our souls are not liking it. But since I'm treating my bipolar disorder, sometimes is hard for me to fight back. Thanks to Adonai, that his strength operates in our weakness. I even got emotional writing you this (even on public comment) as a testimony to others, that spiritual warfare is real. About the video, come on, do I need commenting? You know I loved it! Brother, I love you, keep piercing the veil! ❤️
@@Glaubermoledohow you seen the armor of God stuff they did? Its life changing
@@Gianni116 I'm going to! I dare to call myself their friends now! I love this channel and these dudes! Thanks for reminding me!
@Glaubermoledo Praying for you our dear friend! Thanks for putting yourself out there for the benefit of others!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
@TotalSkeptic I guess we would expect this response from a "Total Skeptic." 😂 It's hard to ever satisfy anyone who's bent skepticism, but we need folks like you in this world. Thanks for stopping in! Blessings!
@@VeiledKingdoms My pleasure! Let me know when you've found something tangible.!
Brother, I just started this solo series of yours! Chilling! Im no strange to dreams and these kind of encounters as well... Since childhood. It's frightening sometimes, but everytime something like that happened to me, the Lord strengthen rven more my faith. PS: Don't taje me as a stalker 😂 I just happen to really like you guys and the thematic of your channel! God Bless!
@Glaubermoledo My friend you can watch anything we've got on this site. Originally, I had started this channel on my own to go in a different direction from where we are now. I brought Grant on about 60 days after launch to move in the Veiled Kingdoms direction, and haven't regretted it. Eventually, after partnership, I'll probably archive the old New Heart Life videos or move them to another channel. Good to see you!
@@VeiledKingdoms it was a great idea indeed, It's time to pierce the veil!😅 But I could see in this video already some movement of the unseen realms! It was a great video! Move them to a separate Playlist, as a block of the channel! The videos are good!
Joseph used divination (the silver cup he places in Benjamin's satchel)
Well, there is no such thing as a bad episode on yhis channel! Amazing info and tremendously needed for today's materialistic environment. It's amazing to see the similarities found in every religion that have tokens/statues (including one I won't mention just because...) and also the food related rituals always present. Guys, you're amazing! Thanks for all the work on this channel! I laughed hard at several points. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it bro! This series in idolatry has been a really good study for us. Final episode in the series should be out early next week.
@@VeiledKingdomsNice! It has been good for me as well, it is never enough to know about something, specially when it comes from great teachers! (All included!)
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The Mountain Dew 😂😂😂
Sweet dew from the Carolina mountains. 😀
This should be a class taught standard at churches across the nation. No matter the denomination this is baseline! Crazy how many Christians blow off the implications of the spiritual world.
We could not agree more! 😀
You can definitely assume this has been helpful for me!! Thank you!
@mis5080 Thank you! Clever way to encourage...😀
The Doctor makes a Doctor who reference. Priceless!
@ItsTheFireFox Would you expect any less? 😂
Yes! Come on Wednesday!
@Glaubermoledo Let's go! I know I owe you an email too!
@@VeiledKingdoms hahaha 😂 Take your time, Kevin! (PS: still trying to make UA-cam notify me when I got a comment 🙄)
@@Glaubermoledo Sounds good! Just out of curiosity, did this notify you?
@@VeiledKingdomsnope. It's frustrating, and it's on my end, no comments are coming in. 😢
@Glaubermoledo Strange. I wish I could help more!
Great video!!
@mis5080 Thank you! Good to see you! Blessings!
@@VeiledKingdoms Thank you!
Gotta Bashan this video 😂😂😂
@AIADPodcast 😂😂😂 Please don’t! Or do! 😂
Amazing! And there are folks who think the bible is boring. 😅 Loved the short video brother! Couldn't help to notice the copy of Unseen Realms by Heiser, I'm currently reading Demons, also by him, on Kindle. Love you! May the peace be with you!
@Glaubermoledo Awesome. Yeah Grant and I have had read most of the stuff he's written. He was/is a legend. I had the privilige of interviewing him on a podcast back in 2016 before hardly anyone had heard of the Unseen Realm. It was a real honor, though back then, I had very little idea what he was getting at.
It’s crazy. It’s like every time you read the Bible is a new thing. Just didn’t even know was there!
Proverbs 2:4-5: "If you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God."
Come on, bro! Do you have this podcast anywhere? I'd like to watch/listen! What an honor you've had!😮@@VeiledKingdoms
@@Gianni116true! It's amazing! I've been on it since 97 (or before😅) and still surprises me! And I feel like the Lord is opening even more knowledge in these last days!