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I don't really plan on it, but it looks horrible.

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I would definitely like to try it out. Hopefully i can get my hands on one soon.

@@timkleist443 it does not according to Secretlabs support when I asked them

@@sleeksetups ah that's lame

@@GingerOMG Thank you, much appreciated!

@@mohamadahsan9773 its probably the Colamy atlas if they have it in stock. It usually goes in and out of stock pretty frequently

@sleeksetups sadly its not available for Europe in Amazon

@@sleeksetups what are your thoughts about HBADA and Sihoo?

@ Ive seen them a lot online but I havent tested them myself yet. Maybe I will soon since they’ve gotten pretty popular

@@rengokusats Thanks. Yea im sitting in an Embody with an Atlas headrest right now. Expensive af but super comfortable

The Soji is definitley going be a better chair overall. Higher build quality and way better warranty from a major brand. That said, it is twice the price so it's not really a fair comparison

Yes, but what's available in the UK that's not available here in the US?

@yyycma3 probably not much 😂

If you buy new from Steelcase, it should come fully built (or at least it used to). Steelcase says on their site that it require a little bit of assembly but when I got my Amia new it was fully built. If you buy refurbished, it'll require assembly but either way the assembly is very quick since the seat, backrest, armrests, and mechanism are already assembled. You just need to drop the cylinder into the base and attach it to the rest of the chair.

@@James-wc1mt the Amia is much better but its double the price unless you get it refurbished

Yep. When you get one you discover it's a really cheap chair made of really cheap material. But their marketing is so next level they have convinced everyone the opposite. It's a master class in marketing

Yes definitely. That's the definition of an average body type so you shouldn't have any issues.

@@watermelonkoala8110 The Soji is definitely better

Agreed. I found the chair so indescribably hard I also returned it within a week. It was such a hassle. I tell everyone to stay far far away

+1 ... i had one for a year at my workplace few years ago and didn't liked it much. I wonder if they fixed the terrible squeaking and noise :D

Don't get me wrong, it is softer than the original. It's just not worth the extra $250 in my opinion. And it's still a firm seat, not a soft plush one.

@@mathewlortie4270 Glad you like it. Yea its definitely an improvement. I just wish it wasn’t $800 😂

@@sleeksetups the plush armrests alone are worth $80, new much softer "nano" leatherette with nicer sewing (no wobbly lines this time) lets say $70 extra, new seatbase "nano" foam like $50? makes it $200. Add extra $50 for marketing, modified armrests, better piston etc. = $250 difference Compare it rather to the exotic / branded versions, not to the cheapest possible Evo 2022 model :D It's not that much difference then.

@@rdtsc7717 idk what you're trying to say. This is a review based on what I think is worth it or not after testing over 100 different chairs. What is "worth it" is completely subjective and is what I'm trying to assess here based on the real-world benefits they provide compared to what you're getting in the original. And just to be clear. Just because Secretlab CHARGES $80 for the Plush Armrests does not mean they are WORTH $80. That's the whole point. If you're gonna buy the chair, then buy the chair. I'm not here to change the mind of someone already set on buying the chair. This video isn't for you if you already know what you want... It's for people who genuinely don't know if it's worth an extra $250 over the original and in my opinion, it's not. Also, comparing it to the other Exotic options makes no sense in the context of a review like this because most people who are debating buying this version are not choosing between this and another exotic option. They just want a Secretlab chair and want to see if the NEWEST premium option is worth it over the most POPULAR version.

First of all just to preface, I'm not a doctor, so don't take any recommendations as medical advice :). But second of all, if you're looking for something to help with back support, then this chair definitely isn't it due to the basically flat backrest. I do suffer from lower back pain, which is what go me into ergonomic office chairs in the first place. I'd much prefer something like the Steelcase Leap over any gaming chair.

@@sleeksetups Hey thank you so much replying. Was going to get one of the Arcane gaming chairs as loved the Jinx one but if it's going to be painful for my back, not the best then! Will check out the steelcase leap. Thanks so much!

They literally just sent me a new model of the Pro which supposedly fixes the issues with seat firmness. It's still in transit so I'll definitley make an update once I have time to test it.

completely different type of chair so you are comparing apples to oranges

gaming chair vs ergonomic chair, brother what the shit are u comparing ?

Definitely go for the Think V1. They're not even in the same ball park. In fact a lot of people find the older Think V1 more comfortable than the current Think V2. As long as the chair is in functional condition, it's gonna be a much better chair.

@@sleeksetups thanks for your answer as well. WIll go for that! Keep up the good work with this channel, it'll grow up pretty fast!

Thanks! Yea you should fit the Soji just fine. The Soji has a pretty wide range of adjustments so it shouldn't be a problem.

It's a little bit softer mainly due to the softer upholstery that makes it a bit more plush feeling. But it's not that much softer since the NanoFoam Composite layer is only on the seat, not the backrest.

Don't listen to this guy lol. It's a lot softer. I have both these chairs side by side and the new nanogen has a soft foam layer also on the backrest making it really comfy. I would never go back to the evo 2022. I agree it's overpriced but imho worth it if you want it soft and you want it now. Probably will be cheaper in some time.

@@sob515 You see me sit in both of them side by side in the video. I am literally an affiliate for Secretlab meaning I get paid if someone purchases through my link. Why would I lie and say it's not good if it actually is? Literally no incentive. And there is no NanoFoam on the backrest. I even asked Secretlab's support specifically to confirm. It is a bit softer due to the upholstery that's a bit more plush.

@@sob515 The NanoFoam layer is not on the backrest. Before making this review I specifically asked Secretlab's support this question to confirm this. Here is the chat log with Secretlab Support if you're interested: Summary: For the Titan Evo NanoGen edition. Can you explain the NanoFoam composite. It is only used on the seat or is it also used on the backrest ? (12:27:59) Happy: Hi! This is Happy, thank you for contacting Secretlab. I'm happy to assist. (12:28:15) Daniel Hoang: For the Titan Evo NanoGen edition. Can you explain the NanoFoam composite. It is only used on the seat or is it also used on the backrest ? (12:28:21) Happy: Thank you so much for your interest, Daniel. (12:29:02) Happy: The Secretlab NanoFoam™ Composite comprises our patented medium-firm cold-cure foam, with a plush microfoam top layer. (12:29:16) Happy: The thickness of the microfoam layer is not uniform throughout the chair: • the rear of the seat base (i.e. base of spine area) does not feature the microfoam top layer • purely medium-firm cold-cure foam • for targeted support at pressure points when the chair is reclined • microfoam layer increases in thickness towards the front of the seat • greater softness in high-contact areas such as behind the thighs and over the seat edge (12:29:56) Daniel Hoang: Is it used in the backrest? (12:30:28) Happy: Give me 2-3 minutes to check that for you. (12:34:00) Happy: Still checking on it. (12:34:05) Daniel Hoang: k (12:35:46) Happy: Thanks for patiently waiting. (12:36:07) Daniel Hoang: k (12:36:32) Happy: Upon checking, the Titan Evo Nanogen edition doesn't have a micro foam in the backrest. (12:37:01) Daniel Hoang: and in the seat it doesnt have it on the entire seat? In the images on the site it looks like it covers the whole seat (12:38:33) Happy: The rear of the seat base (i.e. base of spine area) does not feature the microfoam top layer. (12:42:11) Happy: May I assist you with anything else? (12:42:45) *** Daniel Hoang left the chat ***

I have no idea if there is nanofoam or nanowhatever inside, it feels much softer on my back so it's not the same in both chairs and it's not "a bit softer". Also their website says: Specialized Finite Element Analysis (FEA) and pressure mapping software allow us to optimize the thickness ratio and position of our cold-cure foam and microfoam across the seat base and backrest, down to the millimeter. It would be best to take it apart and check :D

Thanks - I mean don't get me wrong its not a bad chair by any means. It's objectively better than the regular Titan Evo in pretty much every way and probably the best racing style gaming chair. $250 is just a lot to ask when the design is mostly the same. But if you do get it, you probably won't hate it.

Agree on the warranty point. I specifically say that I dislike this practice in my original Titan Evo Review. However, your second point about Secretlab using the same manufacturers as all the other racing chair companies is factually incorrect. Secretlab is actually one of the only brands that does all of their engineering and manufacturing in house, so no one else has their exact components. More info on that here: blog.secretlab.co/stories/ask-me-anything/ That said, I don't think they're particularly that special either. A racing chair is a racing chair. Secretlab chairs are definitely better built than any other racing chair I've used (and I've used a ton of them) but I've been pretty vocal about preferring a high end ergonomic chair any day.

@@sleeksetups Ok so they have their own in house manufacturing, that makes it worse. Why is quality so bad outside of review copies? Why when my chair arrived faulty did they send the wrong parts to fix it multiple times? SecretLab is not a good company.

@@crazyeyecarl Look, I agree that it's not the best company and could be better with their customer support and warranty. I've called them out on that all the time (even in this video.) But that doesn't necessarily mean that quality for ALL units across the board is bad because you, one individual, received a bad unit. And for the record, this NanoGen edition was not a review unit, I purchased it with my own money for the sake of the review. At no point was I defending Secretlab's customer support. I was simply calling out your factually incorrect statement about their manufacturing.

@@xhotsnowx It shouldn’t be an issue. The adjustment range is pretty good. I’m 5’6 and it works great

agreed

i have the same problem with the aggressive shape/lumbar support

@@wearezscaredbeasts4207 what kind of chair are you coming from. If you’ve never sat in an ergonomic chair before, its very common for there to be an adjustment period for your body if youre not used to it. This is one of the most common things about ergonomic chairs because your body isn’t used to sitting “correctly”. If you are used to sitting with poor posture for your whole life and then a chair all of a sudden forces you to sit with proper posture, its very common to experience some pain the short term until your body is used to it. I had the same experience when i shifted to ergonomic office chairs from racing style gaming chairs

@@sleeksetups pretty Standard chair and yea i was aware of getting used it alongside pain. The thing is got worse and worse, to a point where the back pain radiated into the groin area too even after just sitting for a short period. That was when i knew, i have to give it back.